The Case of the Single Rider Springstravaganza: Part 2 featuring Tage

[00:00:00] Welcome to The Supreme Resort, LandV world, a podcast about Disneyland and Walt Disney World

[00:00:21] and which is the Supreme Resort?

[00:00:26] Each episode we will discuss and explore each resort ride by ride, land by land, park by

[00:00:31] park to determine which is better.

[00:00:33] I'm your host Jimmy and thank you for joining me on this quest to help the greater good of

[00:00:37] humanity answer this long elusive question.

[00:00:41] Which is better?

[00:00:42] Disneyland or Walt Disney World?

[00:00:44] Joining me as always is Dan.

[00:00:46] Single rider.

[00:00:53] And to finish out the chant, Eric, don't tap your mic.

[00:00:57] Oh, sorry.

[00:01:01] And also joining us a Supreme Resort All Star one from DL Weekly, Mr. Tag.

[00:01:08] Hello, hi, thanks.

[00:01:10] Sorry, that's where you say words, my bad.

[00:01:12] Well, I was, you know, sometimes people say last names too.

[00:01:15] So I wasn't sure if you're like positive, you're like, dig and it was like up on the

[00:01:18] high.

[00:01:19] So I didn't know if you were going to get to you on.

[00:01:23] Take it back.

[00:01:24] Don't know your last name because I'm in witness protection program.

[00:01:26] Don't forget that not only DL Weekly but also the hub crawl with you.

[00:01:30] Oh, I was going to bring that up.

[00:01:32] Oh, just you wait.

[00:01:33] You're not looking at my notes.

[00:01:35] Also, DL Weekly and then also what is the latest on the DL Weekly?

[00:01:40] What's going on on DL Weekly these days?

[00:01:43] Well, this coming we, when is this posting soon today.

[00:01:52] Coming up at the end of March here on DL Weekly, we have a great two-parter with Jungle

[00:01:59] Cruise Skipper, Dr. Marley, Dr. Skipper, David Marley who is going to be on and talk about

[00:02:07] his book and being a Jungle Cruise Skipper.

[00:02:10] And he was a delight to talk to so we're looking forward to that.

[00:02:14] Also we just had a really great deep dive into the D23 Expo and all the details for that

[00:02:19] as well.

[00:02:20] Well, like speculative details or details you know.

[00:02:24] Details we know because they announced it last week.

[00:02:27] Well hold on.

[00:02:28] So before we get to that let's get back to did the former Skipper talk about his time

[00:02:33] as business partner with that business recruits or did that come up at all?

[00:02:37] It did not come up.

[00:02:38] Okay.

[00:02:39] All right, so wait a minute.

[00:02:41] What?

[00:02:42] They announced the...

[00:02:43] Yeah, so tickets are going on sale this week.

[00:02:47] This week they didn't announce like stuff they're going to announce.

[00:02:50] They just announced details of the event.

[00:02:52] And they announced yeah and they announced that they're moving all of the big panels

[00:02:54] to the Honda Center which they will provide complimentary shuttle service to from the

[00:02:59] Anaheim Convention Center.

[00:03:01] All of those are going to take place at 7 p.m. on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights

[00:03:05] of the convention with the exception of Sunday night which will not be at 7 p.m.

[00:03:09] It'll be at 5 p.m.

[00:03:10] To kind of wrap up the whole experience and you will have a sign seating in those areas

[00:03:15] if you choose that ticket level so you won't have to wait in line for hours, hours to get

[00:03:21] a good seat.

[00:03:22] You'll know what your seat is when you buy your ticket.

[00:03:23] Awesome.

[00:03:24] Who an alloc listener?

[00:03:25] You don't have to listen to DL Weekly.

[00:03:26] Thank you very much.

[00:03:27] All right.

[00:03:28] There's a lot more but...

[00:03:29] Oh there's more.

[00:03:30] That actually might make me more interested in going.

[00:03:33] If I don't have to wait in a giant line for hours just to get into a panel.

[00:03:37] Yeah.

[00:03:38] It's like so many Disney things, just let me pay for it.

[00:03:40] I'll go.

[00:03:41] I'll pay for it.

[00:03:42] Well Eric they do have a level just for you if you're interested.

[00:03:45] I think it's like $2,500 or something and that gets you the seating right in front

[00:03:51] of the stage in the Honda Center and gets you access to a bunch of other stuff.

[00:03:55] If you pay the entry level fee which is I think it's like $279 for a gold member, for an

[00:04:00] adult gold member ticket, you get kind of what we...

[00:04:03] What people refer to as the nosebleed seats at the Honda Center.

[00:04:06] However if you look at a picture of the Honda Center, it's not that far from the main

[00:04:10] stage so I wouldn't pay to upgrade any closer.

[00:04:13] Two grand seems like.

[00:04:15] Yeah.

[00:04:16] But you can get up to $2,500 and then that also includes priority access to some other

[00:04:22] talks and stuff.

[00:04:23] There's still going to have those little mini talks and whatnot throughout the Expo

[00:04:28] during the day but the big events, the legend ceremony, the experiences panel is what

[00:04:34] they're calling it now so it's all the Disney Park stuff and everything.

[00:04:37] And they're going to have the entertainment panel which will be Disney Plus, Marvel,

[00:04:41] Star Wars, all of that all in one.

[00:04:44] Oh cool.

[00:04:45] Now, so before we get to hub crawl and you know I don't want to spend a lot of time speculating

[00:04:53] as much as this show is not particularly timeless but we do our best at not being top

[00:04:58] of gold.

[00:04:59] That's not a news program but I'm fairly excited about the progress of Disneyland forward

[00:05:04] and I wanted to kind of get your take on it.

[00:05:06] So as of this recording, the Anaheim City Council has not yet approved what the zoning

[00:05:12] commission approved.

[00:05:14] Ultimately one person denied it.

[00:05:16] Everyone else said yeah go for it.

[00:05:18] And effectively for the listeners not aware, Disney owns all this property that is

[00:05:22] not currently zoned for theme parks, zoned for parking or something else.

[00:05:27] And so the zoning commission is like yeah sure go ahead build theme parks on this.

[00:05:30] They, the Disney Land Forward website effectively shows expansion to the west of both Disneyland

[00:05:36] and California adventure, effectively surrounding the existing hotels and then to the southeast

[00:05:44] on the other side of harbor in South of Catella there's another Disney themed I think

[00:05:49] what does it say?

[00:05:50] It says like unique Disney themed something or other which gonna be like a Disney Springs

[00:05:56] kind of thing over on what is the existing toy story lot.

[00:05:59] Right, I suspect it's gonna be a water park that's just my assumption.

[00:06:03] No.

[00:06:04] It's a shopping, shopping I'm pretty sure.

[00:06:06] Yeah, shopping is better.

[00:06:08] So or a water theme park as universal likes to get away with.

[00:06:13] So take what kind of data look pretty cool?

[00:06:16] What does your take on what is actually Disney and forward going to be with the hypothetical

[00:06:21] approval of the city council?

[00:06:24] So I think you summed it up well with what they're getting approval for which is basically

[00:06:29] just still being allowed to have a little slice of central Florida pre-decentis in Anaheim

[00:06:37] which is that they can use the land that they currently own to do whatever they want with

[00:06:40] it.

[00:06:41] I mean, they stuff to get approvals and stuff but they don't have to stick to like you

[00:06:44] set a parking lot or hotel occupancy that kind of stuff.

[00:06:48] It's kind of interesting because if you look at the concept art that Disney has put out

[00:06:52] in the Disneyland Forward stuff, it looks like they're gonna build, they're gonna expand

[00:06:59] California and venture kind of into the area south of the Pixar place hotel and they're

[00:07:04] gonna expand Disneyland seemingly into the area between the Pixar Pals parking structure

[00:07:10] and the Disneyland hotel is kind of the idea there at least from the concept art that

[00:07:16] concept only like don't take this for fact.

[00:07:19] The other thing that's interesting if you look at that though.

[00:07:22] They're doing all of this west side building stuff in downtown Disney.

[00:07:25] They've got this nice area now that's a grass area with a performance space and they're

[00:07:29] building this park side market and dintye fun and all of this.

[00:07:33] If you look at the concept art where those things are, that's supposed to be new theme park

[00:07:37] stuff.

[00:07:38] So I find it hard to believe that they would spend all this money and time building brand

[00:07:41] new stuff at the end of downtown Disney to within the next 10 years destroy it

[00:07:45] and build something different.

[00:07:47] So I don't know what they're gonna do.

[00:07:49] I think they just want to have the options to do whatever they want.

[00:07:53] And I do hope that this becomes extensions of the existing parks and not trying to shoe

[00:07:57] on another park.

[00:07:59] Honestly what Disney should have done is too late now in my opinion is they should have

[00:08:03] just bulldozed everything in that whole block, moved the hotels to the outskirts of that

[00:08:09] zoning area and then built either another park or an expansion of the parks like together

[00:08:14] because it's gonna be really interesting now because they have to build around existing

[00:08:17] buildings and I find that really limits some options.

[00:08:21] Although Disney especially Disneyland has a history of getting around stuff like that,

[00:08:25] Pirate's the Caribbean goes underground to get under outside the berm.

[00:08:28] Same thing with hot and mansion.

[00:08:30] It's a small world.

[00:08:31] So they've done stuff like that before and it's given us some really creative awesome experiences

[00:08:36] as well just to be out.

[00:08:38] So did, I guess we don't need to spend again a ton of time here and I'll let the others

[00:08:42] to weigh in but is this the third theme park to the west where like Disneyland Hotel is

[00:08:47] in the theme park now or do they truly expand and get rid of Disneyland Drive?

[00:08:52] Because I think magic way is going away already.

[00:08:54] Yes.

[00:08:55] And then are they going underneath Disneyland Drive or they cover it like Disney Screen?

[00:08:59] The concept of art shows that what they plan to do by the, if you believe the concept

[00:09:04] art is to do like they did with downtown Disney where they have that bridge that goes over

[00:09:07] the road that you, if you're walking over it, you don't even really realize that it's

[00:09:11] a bridge over the road.

[00:09:12] Right.

[00:09:13] So the plan is to connect California adventure to the southern part of that and connect

[00:09:17] Disneyland to the northern part of that.

[00:09:20] And there's no such thing as anymore, it seems that there's no such thing as fluid theme

[00:09:28] in a Disney theme park anymore.

[00:09:31] Maybe with the exception of the existing animal kingdom but otherwise stuff just kind of goes

[00:09:36] where it fits anymore.

[00:09:38] Well, I mean, at certain parts, I think Disneyland is still doing a pretty good job in

[00:09:43] most parts.

[00:09:45] And probably with the extension of this, I think he's saying that that would be.

[00:09:49] Oh, you mean like a possible third gate?

[00:09:52] No, I'm talking about the extension of the existing parks now all of a sudden beyond

[00:09:57] galaxy's edge beyond critter country.

[00:09:59] Now you have this expansion but we don't know what it's going to be.

[00:10:04] I mean, they could, they could blend into, they could blend into their avatar experience.

[00:10:10] Their Pandora world coming out of critter country.

[00:10:13] I mean, they did just fine blending galaxy's edge in with multiple directions except for

[00:10:19] maybe Toy Story.

[00:10:20] How does how does galaxy's edge thematically fit in Disneyland?

[00:10:24] We've talked about it before and between when you, yeah, yeah, galaxy far far away.

[00:10:31] It's not future.

[00:10:32] It's just a different thing.

[00:10:34] I think they did the best with what they could.

[00:10:36] I mean, it's hard to blend adventure land to Main Street but we've done it right?

[00:10:40] That's a pretty short connection there.

[00:10:43] Yeah, I'm not talking about blending.

[00:10:44] I'm talking about fitting to the overall theme.

[00:10:47] It's another world.

[00:10:48] It's another lack adventure.

[00:10:51] It's another location that you can, that's a completely different place than the place

[00:10:56] you were just in or the outside world.

[00:10:59] The Westward expansion first of all, I think is a little bit of red herring and I can get

[00:11:04] into it if I want, if you want, yeah, if you want me to, I think that the biggest transitional

[00:11:10] problem is critter country because the California adventure, you could just do a bridge over

[00:11:16] the street and go like, hey, look, California streets.

[00:11:18] You know, it's not that big of a deal.

[00:11:21] But going from critter country to whatever might seem weird now but they are just now

[00:11:29] leaning in really hard on the idea of critter country being about critters.

[00:11:35] And they've got a whole lot of IP about critters.

[00:11:39] I mean, we could do toopia possibly.

[00:11:42] You know, there's a lot of different, there are things that one can do now that we know

[00:11:48] that Tionas bioadventure is in fact going to be part of critter country and it's going

[00:11:55] to lean in really hard on, I mean, critter country is really doubling down on the idea of critters.

[00:12:01] It's critter time here.

[00:12:04] And there's a lot that we could do there or that they could do there.

[00:12:07] But I really think that what's going to end up happening is once it gets approved, it's

[00:12:12] going to be like, okay, guess what?

[00:12:14] Toy Story Parking lot.

[00:12:17] It's a brand new theme park and Garden Walk is going to start being like, oh, where is

[00:12:22] sick?

[00:12:23] Who wants to buy this thing?

[00:12:26] So small though.

[00:12:28] What?

[00:12:29] Toy Story?

[00:12:30] Garden Walk.

[00:12:31] Garden Walk is so small.

[00:12:32] Well, I mean, it's nothing there.

[00:12:33] Yeah, it just needs to be an extension of downtown Disney.

[00:12:37] I'm not saying that they're going to make that into a theme park.

[00:12:40] I think Garden Walk is as large as downtown Disney is.

[00:12:43] Yeah.

[00:12:44] Which is not fair.

[00:12:45] Yeah.

[00:12:46] But it's worked so far for the last 20 almost five years now.

[00:12:50] Yeah.

[00:12:51] Anyway enough speculation unless you have more to speculate with.

[00:12:55] Eric, does it have an opinion?

[00:12:56] No.

[00:12:57] I don't listen to this stuff.

[00:13:00] All I know is my tour guide, Abner said that for sure Toy Story Lot is gone.

[00:13:07] And that's pretty much what they've admitted at this point.

[00:13:09] Right.

[00:13:10] And I think a lot of this discussion has gotten difficult to have because when we have,

[00:13:18] we're in the climate right now where it's like almost impossible for people to have

[00:13:22] a conversation or speculative discussion if the other person can't come up with like,

[00:13:27] no, this is the definite idea that they're going to do.

[00:13:30] Here's my blueprint that I jackass that just like works at Taco Bell that I came up with.

[00:13:35] Here are my, here are my patents.

[00:13:38] It's like they do these things that like they're good.

[00:13:42] I don't know if you know about this but Disney is good at theme park.

[00:13:46] And so I think that it's just frustrating for me to have these conversations sometimes

[00:13:53] because like not this conversation right now but in conversations that I've had with

[00:13:58] some people where it's just like, I don't know, Toy Story Parking Lot.

[00:14:01] It's like where were they put the parking?

[00:14:04] It's like, but do you really think if they're going to keep that parking lot and keep paying

[00:14:07] the city of Anaheim to get buses out from like, there's a reason why it's been stagnant.

[00:14:15] It's because they plan on doing something with that space, you know?

[00:14:18] Yeah.

[00:14:19] I don't think it's going to be shopping.

[00:14:21] There's a parking structure in the Disneyland Forward website speculative thing.

[00:14:24] But anyway, I also want last thing I just want to say, I just wish that whatever they do,

[00:14:29] I wish Disney would go back to generically themed lands and not IP specific lands.

[00:14:33] Yeah, good luck if that's not happening again.

[00:14:37] Okay, so Teg, before we get to the main meat of the show, Dan just got back from Disneyland

[00:14:45] today.

[00:14:47] Do you have any Dan's Frosted tips or trip report you would like to share?

[00:14:53] The castle made me weep because it's so small.

[00:14:57] Yeah, it's an ongoing joke, Teg.

[00:15:01] That's it.

[00:15:03] That's all right.

[00:15:04] It's ridiculous.

[00:15:05] And then yeah, okay.

[00:15:09] It's not ugly like Disney World's.

[00:15:10] Oh well.

[00:15:11] Episode one, Teg.

[00:15:14] Episode one of this show.

[00:15:15] So we almost we almost had a whole meltdown on hub crawl over the birthday cake decoration.

[00:15:21] Oh, did we now because Eric loves it?

[00:15:24] Yes.

[00:15:25] I do and we had a guest who loved it.

[00:15:27] Yes.

[00:15:28] And let me guess the next episode of hub crawl is going to be the best single writer line

[00:15:32] in all the parks.

[00:15:33] No, the next hub crawl episode, I'm going to have a new co-host and we're only going to get

[00:15:39] people who have been pre-vetted to hate the birthday cake castle.

[00:15:43] Up crawl by the way, not on this network but a wonderful show if you're a Disney parks

[00:15:47] or Disney fan in general because every week they have every other week.

[00:15:52] They have every other week.

[00:15:53] Guests on and each guest poses a question could be anything from what's your favorite Disney

[00:15:59] animated film to what's the best ride to what is the best single writer line in all the

[00:16:04] theme parks which is what we're here to cover today.

[00:16:08] Today is episode two of our spring time, spring fun, tackler because we can't say March

[00:16:15] madness.

[00:16:17] Episode one was us getting down to the elite eight of the top single writer lines in all

[00:16:23] of the Disney theme parks.

[00:16:25] Disney World did it for us because there are only four.

[00:16:27] Disneyland we had to argue for the nine that are existing and we boiled it down to four

[00:16:32] using various parameters and they boiled down to which of these attractions single writer

[00:16:39] cues has the lowest creep factor meaning how creepy are you to the people you're joining

[00:16:47] on their ride.

[00:16:49] How much time does this save?

[00:16:51] Obviously the higher time save for the better.

[00:16:53] How does the theme work compared to being in the regular line and then to get to the final

[00:16:57] four is it better than lightning lane?

[00:17:00] Now where we landed there were the four attractions at Disneyland are radiateers spring

[00:17:04] is racers, the Matterhorn, Space Mountain and Web slingers.

[00:17:10] The four at Disney World by default because there are only four are test track expedition

[00:17:18] Everest rock and roller coaster and the Millennium Falcon smuggler's run.

[00:17:22] Jimmy ask a quick question.

[00:17:24] Yes please.

[00:17:25] There are legit only four single writer attractions in Disney World.

[00:17:28] legit only four and by the way you can't at Disneyland.com you can type in single writer

[00:17:34] and it will give you a list of all nine single writer attractions.

[00:17:38] Disneyworld.go.gov if you search that there is nothing about single writers at all.

[00:17:44] They'll give your computer a virus.

[00:17:47] There's no like web page like there's a specific web page dedicated to single writer lines

[00:17:53] at Disney there's nothing for Disney world so it's just from experience and looking

[00:17:58] on the apps and everything else.

[00:17:59] So all the blogs all all of the mommy blogs love to write about oh my god yes indeed I wrote

[00:18:05] about it on concierge.net concierge.net now it's come okay that's alright so you're

[00:18:12] a mommy blocker I was look at that Dan's laughing about something

[00:18:18] It's the worst the most horrible dark joke ever.

[00:18:23] What Disney World giving you a virus?

[00:18:25] No Eric please cut this out 21 18 Dan's

[00:18:32] to their creaking.

[00:18:33] Because it is not joke we should include in the show.

[00:18:38] Oh if you're if you're going to say a really bad joke then I will you could save a joke

[00:18:42] and then I'll do the time code.

[00:18:46] If you look so ready just to be done right now.

[00:18:51] We were picking.

[00:18:53] When he searched for single writer lines at Disney World it gives you a pop up for a suicide

[00:18:58] on.

[00:18:59] Oh Jesus.

[00:19:00] Oh no.

[00:19:01] Trigger warning everybody.

[00:19:04] Holy crap.

[00:19:06] By the way take the episode image for this episode is a delightful picture of Dan by

[00:19:12] himself at Disneyland which you'll see when you see the way anyway.

[00:19:16] Alright so how this works is we've broken down the final eight or the elite eight into

[00:19:21] four categories.

[00:19:23] They are brackets they are a slot car bracket which is test track and radio spring's

[00:19:28] racers.

[00:19:29] The coaster in the dark bracket which is space mountain and rock and roller coaster.

[00:19:34] The Yeti bracket Everest versus Matterhorn and finally the video game bracket which is

[00:19:39] Millennium Falcon Smugglers run and web slingers so how this will work listener is we are going

[00:19:45] to go bracket by bracket and Eric Dan and I will argue for which we think is the best

[00:19:50] single writer line will give you a little bit of rundown of what each thing is.

[00:19:54] It's creep factor will have to argue the creep factor for Disney World since we've already

[00:19:57] argued Disneyland's creep factor and time save and everything else so are you ready?

[00:20:05] You said Eric but I'm pretty sure you meant tag are you ready to Eric oh yes I'm also

[00:20:10] ready yes.

[00:20:11] I'm bigger you are I'm paying attention.

[00:20:13] I'm always ready I was born ready.

[00:20:15] Alright Dan.

[00:20:16] Hold on.

[00:20:18] Yes now I'm ready.

[00:20:20] Okay another show image should be the my view of my book at the last 24 hours.

[00:20:28] Okay so let's start with the slot car bracket they are a test track and we're radio to

[00:20:32] springs racers to bring everybody up to speed radio to springs racers did make the final

[00:20:37] four of Disneyland to recap radio to springs racers single writer cue is mostly outdoors

[00:20:45] it is a fairly low creep factor because no it's medium creep that's medium yeah.

[00:20:54] Wait was one again?

[00:20:55] That is radio spring racers.

[00:20:56] Yeah because you got to sit down next to somebody usually a kid so it's an isolated entrance

[00:21:03] its own thing it's basically the same cue you really don't miss anything it's a medium

[00:21:08] creep factor because you know inevitably it's a dad and his kid and the kids in the middle

[00:21:13] and you're on the outside and they've already buckled and whatever.

[00:21:16] You just unlocked a memory that I forgot that I'm sure anyone who writes single writer lines

[00:21:21] of have had has had this sorry everybody I took the Rika test my brain is right look

[00:21:26] at it when you get to the when you get to the spot where your the rest of your party is

[00:21:34] that you're joining and like they did put the kid on the outside but then like oh I think

[00:21:39] like reshuffle.

[00:21:40] That's in the middle now.

[00:21:43] Yeah.

[00:21:44] It's like it's the best eat ever and then suddenly it's like great.

[00:21:47] Now I'm in the crappy seat.

[00:21:49] Nice really hyped up the creep factor too.

[00:21:51] I waited in this line for two hours for radio street race and now I'm screwed because

[00:21:57] I'm in the second row so I've got like somebody's head in front of me.

[00:22:00] And now I can't even see out the side that's right.

[00:22:03] This guy's been in line for 10 minutes and he's drinking a beer.

[00:22:05] They don't have beer.

[00:22:07] So the theme we landed on was the same maybe someone to catch a predator.

[00:22:12] Oh boy.

[00:22:13] The theme is the same and with the notes I have are same maybe better could the theme

[00:22:21] for the single writer cue maybe even be better.

[00:22:24] I think that what we landed on is that the theme you don't have to deal with the look

[00:22:32] it's well put together, it's well themed but the theme that they are theming it to is like

[00:22:38] it's like going to a restaurant and having nothing but like beige fried things on the

[00:22:44] menu.

[00:22:45] It's like okay no matter how good it is it's still like.

[00:22:50] I don't want to be here.

[00:22:51] I mean yeah the spring looks cool.

[00:22:53] Oh Jimmy's gone.

[00:22:55] We lost Jimmy.

[00:22:56] I'm here.

[00:22:57] Oh he's back okay there we go.

[00:23:00] So what were we saying sorry I got distracted by Jimmy's.

[00:23:05] You were talking you were talking the trail of our podcasts.

[00:23:10] Wow.

[00:23:11] Thanks.

[00:23:13] Let's point out that I missed the last episode.

[00:23:16] Let's not.

[00:23:17] Let's not.

[00:23:18] Everything's fine.

[00:23:20] But Dan I see what you're saying.

[00:23:23] You can still see the things you can still see the statue of what is it Stanley the founder

[00:23:28] of the town.

[00:23:29] Yeah but we'll see the water tower you radiator springs right.

[00:23:33] I think the only thing you're missing with the single writer line versus I don't know if

[00:23:37] I'm supposed to have an opinion but I think the only thing that you're missing is the

[00:23:41] little rooms you go into that are like the little bottles that is only kind of cool

[00:23:45] at night when you can use your cell phone light to play with the people on the other side

[00:23:49] of the wall.

[00:23:50] I've never actually seen that.

[00:23:51] Yeah so there's a in the standby line you zigzag through this building that's made of

[00:23:56] like bottoms of like bottles like your models yeah.

[00:23:59] Yeah at least you can see those rooms that's where I was going you can see those rooms

[00:24:03] but not stand in that and you don't have to stand in them.

[00:24:06] I mean like are you missing anything by not seeing those.

[00:24:10] And it depends on where when you're going to because I feel like during the summertime

[00:24:13] that queue is just awful it's like hot the sun is beating on you there's like because

[00:24:18] of the way it's laid out there's no breeze.

[00:24:20] So I think single writer is pretty good.

[00:24:23] That's pretty fantastic.

[00:24:24] We've already had a deal.

[00:24:25] It can be long though.

[00:24:26] It can be long depending on because and here's the other thing.

[00:24:30] And as long as the standby.

[00:24:32] Right nothing so long as the standby but here's the other thing is that like lightning

[00:24:37] lane is not free well it's never free but it's a it's a it's a fancy ride is small

[00:24:43] like all sit on the paid lighting shows.

[00:24:45] Yeah it's a paid lightning lane so on one hand and this is where I'm really torn because

[00:24:53] in some ways it makes a very very good argument for itself to be like a potential winner

[00:25:01] of the whole thing here but doesn't it doesn't always save you I mean it saves you more

[00:25:10] time than standby certainly but sometimes you can wait in that line for half an hour 45

[00:25:17] minutes 20 minutes it I mean like it can be a long single writer line.

[00:25:22] True and but we're here it's already made it to the final four so we're trying to decide

[00:25:27] not as it better than itself but is it better than test track.

[00:25:31] No I know well.

[00:25:32] Okay well to last but not good test track to me because I don't know the single writer

[00:25:36] right so test track is virtually the same ride as rated springs racers they're both

[00:25:41] slot cars very similar same track not exactly the same layout but the same basic idea cars

[00:25:47] are the same tracks the same.

[00:25:49] The single writer line is in fact an independent says single writer you go on it you miss most

[00:25:54] of the queue just like rated springs in test tracks queue if you're waiting in line even

[00:25:59] in lightning lane you get to build no restart son of a mother this goat.

[00:26:06] You get to build your own car and you have your magic band or your park ticket and you

[00:26:12] get to design your own vehicle and then when you go and board the ride you get to scan

[00:26:16] your magic band or park media and your car through the test gets to perform and you perform

[00:26:24] your design gets to perform against everyone else who designed in the car.

[00:26:28] In the single writer line you may or may not have time to design your car if you do even

[00:26:35] if you do design your car you won't be able to scan in to see how your car does against

[00:26:40] everyone else.

[00:26:41] No I have a question does everybody like this about test track?

[00:26:45] Did the scanning of the building of the car design?

[00:26:47] Yeah I'm curious so your guys' opinions on that aspect just seem to like it.

[00:26:51] Yeah I don't know that you're talking to the right audience for that.

[00:26:54] I really don't care.

[00:26:55] No we're guests too so we matter.

[00:26:58] Yeah.

[00:26:59] I think it's kind of dumb because everyone has the same experience.

[00:27:03] The old version, the car itself made modifications so you it would perform in different ways based

[00:27:09] on the modifications of the test right?

[00:27:11] Now in this case everybody is having the same experience and so it's all virtual like

[00:27:16] what hypothetically would your car do if you designed it a certain way how well it

[00:27:21] would perform when we did that episode I speculated that general motors takes all that

[00:27:27] data and is now designed in the car of the future based on what is the most efficient.

[00:27:30] The Homer.

[00:27:31] The Homer exactly.

[00:27:34] Anyway what do you think of the design?

[00:27:36] I don't care for it and I don't care for the ride.

[00:27:40] Oh I like test track.

[00:27:43] I never rode the original which I think I would have preferred over the current version

[00:27:48] which they're redoing again now or soon anyway.

[00:27:52] But honestly I think skipping the designing thing like during COVID when we went you

[00:27:56] couldn't do it because high contact areas.

[00:27:58] Right.

[00:27:59] I did not I was not upset by missing that.

[00:28:01] It doesn't add much.

[00:28:02] No it doesn't.

[00:28:03] It takes time.

[00:28:04] Yeah.

[00:28:05] It's something to do right just like anything in a queue that gives you something to do is

[00:28:11] good like shining your phone light on a bottle in the radio spray.

[00:28:15] I mean it's something to do right.

[00:28:17] So for that reason only but it doesn't add value to the attraction probably so I don't

[00:28:23] think you're missing much if you don't do it.

[00:28:25] Yeah.

[00:28:26] I think it's a cute idea that has like almost no ability to follow through.

[00:28:33] So it's aged.

[00:28:34] Yeah.

[00:28:36] How long do you end up staying in line for test track on a single rider is that clicker

[00:28:39] than the radiator spring tracers?

[00:28:40] I would argue it is either the same or faster.

[00:28:44] Interesting.

[00:28:45] Okay.

[00:28:46] From experience and also just anecdotally I have always gone in single rider with someone

[00:28:52] be it my wife, my children, someone and in with no exception I have always written with

[00:28:58] that person because there's a big there's a lot of capacity on that.

[00:29:03] Yeah.

[00:29:04] I also feel like there's a there's a whole other discussion we could be having about

[00:29:08] that because I feel like that incentivizes non-single riders to you.

[00:29:14] I think it's fully coincidental take.

[00:29:16] I don't think it's intentional.

[00:29:17] It's just coincidental but and again anecdotally I've always written with the person I was

[00:29:21] waiting in single rider with.

[00:29:22] I mean I've seen that though.

[00:29:23] Right.

[00:29:24] Yeah.

[00:29:25] It happens on radiator springs too.

[00:29:26] So if we're talking about the experience there's something to do maybe you may or may

[00:29:32] not have time to design a car as far as creep factor goes I would argue it's the same as

[00:29:37] radiator springs racers being the same right or loading experience.

[00:29:42] I can't tell is it on the three.

[00:29:45] Yes same exact thing.

[00:29:46] Okay perfect.

[00:29:48] To the point of giving you something to do radio springs racers single rider line there's

[00:29:52] nothing.

[00:29:53] Not there's not even a chance for you to do something.

[00:29:55] It's true.

[00:29:56] Do leaning against the wall or do you not lean against the wall.

[00:29:59] So so that yes so there's something to do something to see as far as theme goes the theme

[00:30:07] of radiator springs racers is exquisitely done rock work.

[00:30:11] Yeah and it's I think what we said last time was it's really well done and it's just

[00:30:16] as bad as the rest of that's right.

[00:30:18] That's right.

[00:30:19] Thank you.

[00:30:20] It's just this one.

[00:30:21] I might argue the same for test track a lot of blue a lot of inside a lot of air conditioning

[00:30:27] a lot of carpet you are inside but that's only important if you're in Florida because

[00:30:33] California's weather famously is rather pleasant.

[00:30:36] Oh it's been pretty damn hot in that line some time so that's fair because there is not

[00:30:40] a lot of shade in that line and it is he is no pun radiating off of the concrete.

[00:30:47] So the question that I have that I'm trying to figure out to give it to one of these two

[00:30:50] things is do I give it to test track because you're air conditioned but then you're still

[00:30:56] getting through faster so you're really not gaining that lot a lot.

[00:31:00] But in radio springs like because you could be standing out in the non air conditioning

[00:31:04] thing maybe that's worth more.

[00:31:07] Here's a thought.

[00:31:10] Your attention please.

[00:31:30] What point was that going to make?

[00:31:55] Oh yes.

[00:31:56] That was the point I was going to make.

[00:31:59] Yes the single rider line is air conditioned at test track but so is the regular queue.

[00:32:06] So if you're inside for two hours you're still inside for two hours in the same dark blue

[00:32:14] business which in Florida is wonderful right.

[00:32:17] It's not like there's nothing in there I mean it's been a while since I've ridden

[00:32:22] it so correct me from wrong it's not like there's like nothing in there that you're

[00:32:25] like it's not like soren.

[00:32:27] It's just a carpet.

[00:32:28] It's not much better though.

[00:32:30] It's not on both coasts is pretty boring but it's not much better.

[00:32:34] Jimmy yeah you've been on it more recently I would assume because I haven't been on

[00:32:38] it in a few years because it's very reminiscent of soren as far as what to see.

[00:32:43] The only thing I'll give it is maybe, maybe.

[00:32:47] No I take that back I don't even think I'm conflating single rider with flighting lane

[00:32:52] I don't think you touch the computer.

[00:32:55] Okay no I don't think you do.

[00:32:57] I don't think you do.

[00:32:58] So when are we ready to decide?

[00:33:00] I think I'm ready to decide.

[00:33:01] You're ready to eat whenever you want it's you're the judge you decide.

[00:33:03] Okay I think because of cutting down on the amount of time you spend in the sun I'm going

[00:33:10] to say Rated or Springs Racers gets the single rider there because I think that if

[00:33:15] you don't want to pay for a lightning lane but you don't want to wait in a two hour potential

[00:33:22] line in the sun or in the rain if it's like the weather has been recently in California

[00:33:30] I think that the single rider there is better.

[00:33:34] All right can we be very clear what you just said?

[00:33:37] Yes which is better?

[00:33:40] Rated or Springs Racers.

[00:33:42] Rated or Springs Racers.

[00:33:43] Okay gotcha.

[00:33:44] And not to push back on that decision but I'm just for I'm curious if we say that the

[00:33:49] lightning lane you no longer have to pay for exclusively it's now part of just regular

[00:33:55] genie plus would that change your decision?

[00:33:57] No okay I think it's just like a cherry on top.

[00:34:01] Lightning lane can be pretty long too.

[00:34:04] Yeah we can be.

[00:34:05] We're lighting lanes the devil but it is.

[00:34:08] You guys ever have a day where you want to do lightning lane versus non-lightening lane

[00:34:12] I would love to come argue that.

[00:34:15] Okay so we just landed on Rated or Springs Racers wins single rider for the slot car bracket.

[00:34:24] Is that what I heard?

[00:34:25] Yes okay just want to make sure I'm still taking notes.

[00:34:29] Okay.

[00:34:30] Jim is catching up.

[00:34:31] Excellent.

[00:34:32] Excellent.

[00:34:33] I just want to grab another drink that's why I just spurred you.

[00:34:35] Great.

[00:34:36] Okay so wonderful Rated or Springs Racers has moved on to the final four and Tag could

[00:34:41] you re-getterate?

[00:34:42] You can't say well I guess it is a four final things.

[00:34:46] The Geniti Quattro.

[00:34:47] The Geniti Quattro.

[00:34:48] I don't brag it.

[00:34:51] So take for me really in the listener why did we land on Rated or Springs being the

[00:34:55] supreme single rider?

[00:34:58] Because it allowed people to get out of the sun like you still wait in the sun but

[00:35:04] you are not waiting in that long line in the sun as opposed to test track.

[00:35:09] So I think in my experience of seeing the single rider there I think it depends on when

[00:35:15] you go that if you could either get on quickly or if it takes a long time and with paid lightning

[00:35:21] lane, if paid lightning lane is an equation thing you're also you could be waiting less for

[00:35:29] single rider than for paid lightning lane.

[00:35:31] Okay.

[00:35:32] That doesn't cost anything.

[00:35:33] There was something in another thing in favor of Rated or Springs which is that you can

[00:35:36] see well basically if you can see the end of the single rider line from the entrance

[00:35:42] do don't go on it.

[00:35:43] That's a good tip.

[00:35:44] But also another thing that I think is important is you can tell how close you are to the

[00:35:52] front because we'll probably get into it when you get to the only single rider I've

[00:35:58] ever been on was Space Mountain and I had no idea how much longer I was supposed to wait

[00:36:03] because at Disneyland they keep blocking you up and they allow like little groups of people

[00:36:07] to go.

[00:36:08] And I had no idea how close I was or how far away I was from the beginning but it's

[00:36:12] spoilers.

[00:36:13] Rated or Springs racers I feel like it's pretty clear where you are and how much that's

[00:36:20] good point because you can see the loading area from virtually everywhere in the single

[00:36:23] rider line.

[00:36:24] Correct.

[00:36:25] Okay, so we're going to move on to the video game bracket that is Millennium Falcon

[00:36:28] Smugglers Run versus Web Slingers.

[00:36:31] Now where we landed with Web Slingers just for your information before we talk about what

[00:36:36] it is as far as the creep factor goes its medium but you're also maybe be able to help

[00:36:42] others and Eric had an evidence where he was able to help these strangers navigate the

[00:36:48] attraction because he'd done it better before.

[00:36:50] Yeah, it's a little creepy because in that particular instance it was a dad and a few

[00:36:57] kids and I was with and personally it feels weird when they're like, wow you're good at

[00:37:04] this.

[00:37:05] I'm like, well do you see my t-shirt?

[00:37:08] This is the third time I've been on it today.

[00:37:10] I don't know.

[00:37:11] I don't have anything else to do.

[00:37:13] You went on Web Slingers three times that day.

[00:37:15] I was deliberately researching the single rider line.

[00:37:18] There you go.

[00:37:20] And because it was yeah, I was interested because two out of those three times I was on

[00:37:26] the ride in ten minutes and the weight was huge.

[00:37:29] So I'm going to skip back again, I apologize.

[00:37:32] So basically the cue if we could start with that Eric on Web Slingers just to remind our

[00:37:36] listeners in tag you get to see the pre-show in the single rider.

[00:37:44] Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[00:37:45] Is the single rider episode yes?

[00:37:47] Do you do okay so are you single rider?

[00:37:50] Do you join the main queue in the pre-show room?

[00:37:53] You join, no you don't.

[00:37:55] What happens is they keep you a little shame closet.

[00:37:58] There's this little Tom Holland is like I'm not talking to you.

[00:38:03] Yeah, he puts his hand up so he can't see your side of the room.

[00:38:09] But yeah, you kind of go in.

[00:38:11] So it's on the left from the lightning lane and the main queue areas.

[00:38:15] And you kind of go around a quick switch back and then they hold you there when everybody

[00:38:20] goes into the rooms, into that center holding area where that's where lightning lane and

[00:38:25] regular line mix.

[00:38:27] They hold you back.

[00:38:29] And then when the door opens to go into the pre-show area they take like ten of the people

[00:38:34] from the single rider line and stick you in a little area off to the side.

[00:38:38] So you kind of have to swap sides of the room.

[00:38:41] And you're right next to there there's like the white board that has a whole bunch of

[00:38:45] cool writing that I've always wanted to take pictures of and know what's written on

[00:38:48] there.

[00:38:49] But you get to see the whole pre-show, you're just separated.

[00:38:53] And then when everybody else goes into that last few switchbacks to head downstairs you

[00:38:58] go into what's basically a cast member hallway.

[00:39:02] It's still kind of themed just kind of like everything else is it's like warehousing.

[00:39:07] But you go around, you kind of go around a corner and then another corner and that's

[00:39:11] literally where the cast members come in and out from their shift.

[00:39:15] You kind of have to hold back so that they have an avenue to.

[00:39:18] Right, right.

[00:39:21] And then you kind of get up to the front and you can't really see much because you're

[00:39:25] sitting behind, you're right around the corner from where the loading area is and then

[00:39:31] they just walk up and say come on you and you just walk out and you're there.

[00:39:35] So even though this is a new attraction they did not intend for this attraction to

[00:39:40] have.

[00:39:41] It was not designed with single rider in it was designed.

[00:39:44] It just happens to coincide with the cast member entrance and exit.

[00:39:49] But yeah, it's clearly a hallway designed for that because of the area in the at least

[00:39:54] not my opinion is it seems like it was clearly designed for that because there's that area

[00:40:00] in the main, you know, pre-show room which is which I think it's fair to say that it's

[00:40:07] done in a way that it's not clear whether it was designed that way for the beginning

[00:40:12] or not could be.

[00:40:14] Yeah, I mean it's done.

[00:40:16] It's done well as my point but I don't remember.

[00:40:21] I don't I don't know for sure that it was designed that way just like if there's any

[00:40:24] pirus out there's like, I hate you now, you know, so can you think of an attraction that

[00:40:29] was designed with a single rider in mind?

[00:40:33] We'll get to it in this very bracket.

[00:40:36] Good point.

[00:40:39] And part of that is you say you'll see the pre-show, this is the video game bracket.

[00:40:44] Do you need to see the pre-show every time?

[00:40:48] If you've never been on it before, I mean the first time I went on Falcon, the first

[00:40:56] like four times I went on Falcon, I went on the single riders because it was opening

[00:41:00] weekend and I did not want to wait two and a half hours.

[00:41:03] So you never saw Honda until I didn't see Honda, yeah.

[00:41:05] I don't know if you need to see Honda.

[00:41:08] I think I'm curious about this but I think we're talking about the wrong attraction

[00:41:12] right now.

[00:41:13] Right, so web slingers.

[00:41:15] So you got the description of the single rider line and that we decided creep factors

[00:41:20] medium.

[00:41:21] The time saver is probably is what we landed is probably a time saver and Dan between this

[00:41:27] and Lightning Lane, I think it's just by the numbers.

[00:41:34] It's Italy.

[00:41:37] That's hard to say because if you're going through Lightning Lane, which is this is included

[00:41:41] in Genie Plus there, it could be a one-to-one actually.

[00:41:46] It's probably similar to Lightning Lane.

[00:41:49] I don't know that I've ever done Lightning Lane, have I?

[00:41:53] And then the theme is the notes are less disappointing when you're in single rider.

[00:42:02] Oh yeah, because it's the whole thing.

[00:42:06] I think that's a mean note.

[00:42:07] It's like the whole thing feels like an afterthought so if you're in a single rider line which is,

[00:42:16] it's like, well it may as well be this.

[00:42:21] And because you're not having to wait the whole time, it's not as disappointing as

[00:42:24] if you're waiting the hour and a half in the switchbacks outside and then get inside

[00:42:27] and like, oh, okay.

[00:42:28] Yeah, I think what it is, it's like the disappointment is scaled down to like

[00:42:32] I'm going through some hallways with minimal theming as opposed to,

[00:42:36] I'm in a show building with minimal theming.

[00:42:40] And then we move to the Millennium Falcon Smugglers Run.

[00:42:45] We went there in the last episode but just to catch you up tag, this as we kind of alluded

[00:42:50] to, this misses part of the show.

[00:42:52] You don't see Honda O'Naca so if you'd never been in the queue, you wouldn't know that

[00:42:55] that exists.

[00:42:58] But that sounds terrible already.

[00:42:59] But as a damn fine single rider and you'll probably be the engineer.

[00:43:06] And there is a dedicated entrance for single rider.

[00:43:09] If you go to the right, like most people, you'll wait a little bit.

[00:43:12] If you go to the left, unlike most people, you're bound to get on almost immediately.

[00:43:17] Not almost like immediately.

[00:43:19] Oh yeah.

[00:43:20] I have yet to wait longer than 30 seconds.

[00:43:24] And I mean that literally.

[00:43:25] Yeah, that's a fair statement.

[00:43:27] I think I would echo that.

[00:43:28] The creep factor is low.

[00:43:30] I would say, creep factor is actually negative on this one.

[00:43:37] Not even an A.

[00:43:38] I would say creep factor on this one because it's a social ride or it can be.

[00:43:45] So you're thrown in into a role where everyone's helping and it's not like the weird thing

[00:43:50] like here, let me lean over your child and help you with your web slinging abilities.

[00:43:56] It's like I'm doing a job.

[00:43:58] I'm here to help.

[00:44:01] And it also, I realized when I wrote it this last time, it has this really fun thing that

[00:44:08] not a lot of single rider lines have that I can think of where like it's kind of cool

[00:44:16] to go and like, okay, I have this group of four people this time or group of five people

[00:44:22] and they have their dynamic.

[00:44:23] And it introduces a whole new social thing that you get to be a part of and or observe while

[00:44:29] helping.

[00:44:30] It's actually I think an entirely net positive for everybody.

[00:44:34] It's such a huge icebreaker whether you do poorly or you do well at the end, everybody's

[00:44:39] hyped up.

[00:44:40] Everybody's like, wow, hey, that was cool.

[00:44:42] And hey, thanks for, you know, everybody's commiserating afterward.

[00:44:47] So let me ask this question.

[00:44:49] Let me ask this question because the web slingers is also communal.

[00:44:54] And you're also helping each other, right?

[00:44:56] It's not clear though.

[00:44:57] I mean, you have to have seen X many YouTube videos and know that this bucket of goo is over

[00:45:03] there.

[00:45:04] And like, but for the most part, you're flailing your arms out.

[00:45:08] Yeah.

[00:45:09] Right.

[00:45:10] You're frantically trying to get it.

[00:45:12] You're like, oh, this seems to be doing something.

[00:45:14] Yeah.

[00:45:15] So then we have time savers very high on the theme.

[00:45:19] And the theme is just okay.

[00:45:21] It's still a hallway, but you're not in it long enough to care.

[00:45:24] It's a starboard as a hallway.

[00:45:25] Dan, will you explain to me something?

[00:45:27] So single writer for for smugglers.

[00:45:31] So we went like two or I don't know, we went last year with some friends of ours that

[00:45:36] had a small child and the small child as we were in the main room as a group getting

[00:45:42] ready to like put into our cockpit had to go to the bathroom.

[00:45:47] So they sent us out like an emergency exit thing that actually exited us out where the

[00:45:54] single writer comes in.

[00:45:55] I want to say maybe that is most like it might have been, it might have been next to

[00:45:58] that anyway.

[00:46:00] Where do you, where do you show up to get put into a pod with somebody into the cockpit

[00:46:05] with somebody?

[00:46:06] Are you talking about from the entrance or at the shopping area?

[00:46:10] So from the entrance, if you're looking at, you know, place where you go to your

[00:46:13] room.

[00:46:14] I'm sorry, I got that part.

[00:46:15] I'm saying when you join your people, where do you join your people at?

[00:46:19] At the desk at the chess table room.

[00:46:23] Just before that.

[00:46:24] Yeah.

[00:46:25] Okay.

[00:46:26] So it's like when they give you your color.

[00:46:27] Yeah.

[00:46:28] It's like you walk up and most of the time I've done this several times almost every time

[00:46:33] there's maybe at the most two people in front of me, it's almost always you walk up

[00:46:38] and they're like, Hey, an engineer, you're joining this group.

[00:46:42] Like there is it is no wait.

[00:46:43] Yeah.

[00:46:44] It's true.

[00:46:45] And then you're just waiting in the Falcon.

[00:46:47] Yeah.

[00:46:48] You're waiting in the waiting area.

[00:46:49] So you still get kind of the p.s. to resistance if you will, which is hanging out in

[00:46:53] the millennium Falcon with the chess table and yada yada.

[00:46:55] So kind of the thing people wait for.

[00:46:57] Does anybody think that they don't give us enough time in that room?

[00:47:01] Agreed.

[00:47:02] I agree.

[00:47:03] Agreed.

[00:47:04] I feel like every time I sit down to take like a cool photo, like I'm waiting for

[00:47:07] the people before me to move.

[00:47:09] And then I go to sit down there like red group and I'm like, ah crap, that's us.

[00:47:12] I'm really yelling at you.

[00:47:14] If you don't get to move in as the red group, they're pretty irritated.

[00:47:18] I agree but I also think that that's a kind of a benefit because you never really get

[00:47:23] tired of it.

[00:47:24] That's fair.

[00:47:25] And if you're a single writer, you don't really want to be hanging out in there because

[00:47:27] you've been there enough times.

[00:47:29] The first time, the first few times I went in the earliest days at Walt Disney World

[00:47:35] when it was open, they had a little more time because I think they weren't quite as efficient

[00:47:39] as they needed to be.

[00:47:41] Now they just boom, boom, boom, boom.

[00:47:44] Like let's just keep everybody moving back then, I think like all six groups were in

[00:47:49] the room at the same time.

[00:47:50] Right.

[00:47:51] Because I remember wandering around and taking pictures of everything.

[00:47:52] Yeah, I think you're right.

[00:47:53] It's got a more efficient.

[00:47:55] So take just to set again for context for everyone.

[00:47:58] This episode is about the cue, not the ride.

[00:48:02] So what is the best single writer line based on what you've heard unless you need more

[00:48:07] argument between Lenin Falcons, Mugglers Run, single writer cue and Web Slinger, single

[00:48:12] writer cue which is better.

[00:48:13] I'm torn because it really matters.

[00:48:16] I think if you care about the pre-show.

[00:48:19] Because I think if you care about the pre-show, which I enjoy the pre-show of Web Slingers

[00:48:27] and I enjoy the pre-show of Sugglers Run, that if you want to see the pre-show, you'd

[00:48:33] have to pick Web Slingers because you don't get Hondo.

[00:48:36] Right.

[00:48:37] Now I will say maybe a third of the time I've been on Sugglers Run, the Hondo animatronic

[00:48:41] has not been working.

[00:48:42] Oh, huh.

[00:48:43] So you go in there and he's literally like covered in a tarp or something.

[00:48:47] No.

[00:48:48] Well, I don't have B-Load or a new one.

[00:48:50] Cadvis Bag kind of thing and then he shows up on this.

[00:48:53] It's not as good.

[00:48:54] I also think the live action actor is not very good looking for Hondo, but anyway.

[00:48:58] Okay.

[00:48:59] I will say that I think Web Slingers wins this one for me just because I think it's important

[00:49:05] to also get the pre-show.

[00:49:08] I mean, but yeah.

[00:49:10] Yeah, it's part of the experience.

[00:49:14] But I'm going to say in general though, Dan, I don't know if this is going to make you

[00:49:19] feel better or worse.

[00:49:20] In general, I think both of these attractions are not that great.

[00:49:24] Fair.

[00:49:25] Okay, so Web Slingers is moving on to the Fiend Calt.

[00:49:32] It's probably not going to win at this point, but that's good to take it all.

[00:49:35] Yeah.

[00:49:36] Okay.

[00:49:37] So we're moving on to our coaster in the dark bracket which is Rock and Roller Coaster

[00:49:41] versus Space Mountain.

[00:49:43] To catch tag up on Space Mountain, you've been there.

[00:49:46] You've already alluded to it.

[00:49:49] You have to kind of know that it's there.

[00:49:51] It's not a very distinct lightning lane.

[00:49:54] They move it, Dan, by single rider.

[00:49:56] It's in the exit.

[00:49:57] I always have to ask when I get there.

[00:50:00] So are you doing single?

[00:50:01] Yeah, it's down the hall.

[00:50:02] Okay.

[00:50:03] If the sign is up there, you're doing it.

[00:50:05] If it's not, they're not.

[00:50:06] There you go.

[00:50:07] But I've been there where they've had you go up like the lightning lane entrance before

[00:50:10] and I've been there where they're like, no, you got to go around the exit.

[00:50:13] Okay.

[00:50:14] So it's fluctuates.

[00:50:17] Maybe it's not 100% there.

[00:50:20] Mostly through the exit, it's a dull, dank hallway that is not themed at all.

[00:50:24] I have a note about DASPASS and employees.

[00:50:28] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:50:30] Usually the person who you, and that's why I mentioned the sign.

[00:50:33] Usually the person who you would ask if the single rider line is operating or not is also

[00:50:39] juggling like so many people trying to get on a DASPASS.

[00:50:45] When you are there last priority and that's understandable.

[00:50:49] So basically, and I've gotten this from a cast member there just look for the sign if

[00:50:55] the sign is up that says single rider line means just go it's open.

[00:51:00] If they don't see the sign, it's not happening.

[00:51:05] And then the creep factor we have is medium to low.

[00:51:09] Things are moving vast.

[00:51:10] You're just kind of dumped in there real quick.

[00:51:13] You're sitting next to one person instead of like a whole family or something.

[00:51:18] And it's usually noticeably jarring for them because this is now.

[00:51:24] Because everyone's looking for worse.

[00:51:27] For the single rider, because what if you're in there with like a whole group of girls

[00:51:31] that want to scream the whole time and you're just like well, there goes my ride.

[00:51:36] That's fair.

[00:51:37] The time saver is high.

[00:51:41] Time is lame.

[00:51:43] Yes.

[00:51:44] Okay.

[00:51:45] Moving on to rock and roller coaster.

[00:51:47] Rock and roller coaster does have an independent marked single rider queue.

[00:51:52] Now you're standing outside in a switch back of sorts, you're covered and you might get

[00:52:02] pre-show wet.

[00:52:04] Well, you might get pre-show.

[00:52:06] What do you mean you might get pre-show?

[00:52:09] You know, it's get the pre-show.

[00:52:11] From experience you might just walk through that room.

[00:52:13] Oh really?

[00:52:14] Because there's that little balcony above the balcony.

[00:52:19] But let's just go with the assumption that you get pre-show.

[00:52:21] Okay.

[00:52:22] Now, so you've got the pre-show, I think we all know what that is.

[00:52:26] Steven Tyler in the gang, vulgar head gesture or you just walk by the pre-show either way

[00:52:31] you can watch the pre-show if you want.

[00:52:34] You then enter into the back alley into your own independent lane.

[00:52:38] I have been there multiple times where the god mic, if you will, the loud speaker says

[00:52:45] you may or may not wait the same amount of time in the single rider line then you will

[00:52:50] in the standby line.

[00:52:52] Yeah.

[00:52:53] There's no guarantee of any time saved in single rider from experience that is true.

[00:52:59] Yeah.

[00:53:00] I've had some great times going through that line and then I've had some really awful

[00:53:04] just standing there times.

[00:53:07] My favorite was one instance when my friend James and I were going, we're there at the

[00:53:13] park and he's like let's just do the single rider line.

[00:53:16] It'll be quicker.

[00:53:17] I'm like maybe.

[00:53:18] And we stood in that that dank hallway like 20 people back for probably half an hour

[00:53:25] because the dude who is running, who is queuing everybody up wasn't very good.

[00:53:33] And he was inefficient.

[00:53:34] He was starting to fall behind and then this pro came out.

[00:53:38] She walks out of the back and she just goes you, you, you, you and every single, the

[00:53:45] single rider line cleaned out after that because he was spending all this time trying to figure

[00:53:50] out how to put all the puzzle pieces together.

[00:53:51] You can't put them there.

[00:53:52] Yeah, you can't put the pieces together outside.

[00:53:55] You have to do it once you're inside.

[00:53:57] Load the thing up till it's full and then like Matterhorn loaded up till it's full and

[00:54:02] then when it starts getting empty, bring more people in.

[00:54:04] Right.

[00:54:05] Yeah.

[00:54:06] She came in and just cleared the line in minutes but we stood there forever.

[00:54:09] It was such a miserable feeling.

[00:54:12] Oh, I think.

[00:54:14] And then for creep factor, I think it's probably the same as space mountain.

[00:54:17] Yeah.

[00:54:18] Similar deal you're just kind of loading up.

[00:54:19] You're both loading into the same side which may or may not help.

[00:54:22] True.

[00:54:23] But let's let's call that low.

[00:54:26] There's less of a surprise factor.

[00:54:27] Oh, a guy.

[00:54:29] I think I'm ready to adjudicate.

[00:54:31] I think space gets this one because no, no, no, no.

[00:54:34] Radar.

[00:54:35] No rock and roller coaster.

[00:54:36] Rock and roller coaster.

[00:54:37] Why?

[00:54:38] Because space's single rider line is terrible.

[00:54:41] Yeah.

[00:54:42] And just you know what else it was.

[00:54:44] There was a there was a there was a like a service dog in a kennel in the area with

[00:54:57] the single riders we're getting bored and they came out and the cast member came and

[00:55:02] had to like sanitize the whole thing.

[00:55:05] And I felt like I was in her way the whole time.

[00:55:07] And I just thought it was dead.

[00:55:08] I mean, obviously this attraction space was an attraction in the 70s.

[00:55:13] They weren't even thinking about single rider.

[00:55:14] It is not designed for that.

[00:55:16] Radar sprig or rock and roller coaster.

[00:55:18] I wish you just put the full name on there.

[00:55:20] Rock and roller coaster I feel at least you get something for it.

[00:55:25] It doesn't seem like it feels as long as you get the same.

[00:55:27] Exactly.

[00:55:28] Ultimately you get the same experience.

[00:55:29] It just takes less time.

[00:55:30] Space Mountain though I went a couple months ago with some friends we rode that thing three

[00:55:38] times in like 20 minutes.

[00:55:42] The question is what is the best single rider cue?

[00:55:46] Yeah, the line sucks.

[00:55:48] And it's confusing.

[00:55:49] Yeah.

[00:55:50] Once you get down there, I've had like I said on the last episode I had somebody almost

[00:55:54] get into a fight because he just kept on walking.

[00:55:56] We're all like, hey, get back here.

[00:55:58] And there's no cast member to say go into that weird L-cove.

[00:56:02] Well, and I went up to the main entrance where they do fast or not fast, fast where they

[00:56:07] do lightning lane.

[00:56:08] And I'm like, where's the single rider?

[00:56:09] And they're like, oh, you got to go back out and around in the exit.

[00:56:12] I'm like, oh, okay.

[00:56:13] So then I had to go find it.

[00:56:15] There was a podium there.

[00:56:16] And I had to ask it was just not done well all around.

[00:56:20] You got to know about it.

[00:56:21] That's the roller coaster is probably more clear in that fact.

[00:56:24] There you go.

[00:56:25] And it's basically, you're basically getting the same experience.

[00:56:29] The biggest variable is it may or may not save you time.

[00:56:32] As much as I love space just to be clear.

[00:56:34] Yeah.

[00:56:35] Thank you.

[00:56:36] Final bracket is Expedition Everest.

[00:56:38] This is our Yeti bracket Expedition Everest versus Matterhorn.

[00:56:42] To catch take up Matterhorn, your group didn't outdoor cue and like we had just talked

[00:56:48] about you're on, sorry, sorry.

[00:56:52] It says grouped and outdoor cue stroller side.

[00:56:56] They fill in the groups waiting next to the loading area.

[00:56:59] So like we just said, they just bring a bunch of people into the loading areas of either

[00:57:04] side of the tracks, either fantasy land or tomorrow land side.

[00:57:09] And then as the thing depletes, they start filling in the void so they group it in.

[00:57:15] You are standing next to the loading area.

[00:57:19] We decided the creep factor is very low because you're sitting in your own seat.

[00:57:24] You're not next to anyone, you're in your very own seat, your own seat belt.

[00:57:28] If this was a few years ago, it would be very creepy.

[00:57:30] Very creepy.

[00:57:31] I don't know if they would have that.

[00:57:34] No, get on end.

[00:57:35] It's a laughter.

[00:57:36] Yes, sir.

[00:57:37] So I will say I do miss the lap sitting.

[00:57:41] Do you?

[00:57:42] I do.

[00:57:43] Strattling.

[00:57:44] Time savers high.

[00:57:46] Theme, you know, same.

[00:57:47] You're outside waiting in line.

[00:57:49] Yodeling.

[00:57:50] Time saver is I think we discussed it's almost always at least better than your lightning

[00:57:58] lane.

[00:57:59] Right.

[00:58:00] If not by a hair.

[00:58:01] That's a big difference.

[00:58:02] Okay.

[00:58:03] Now expedition Everest is another one of those where it's an afterthought.

[00:58:10] It's not always going because sometimes they don't need it.

[00:58:14] It is off to the if you're looking at the attraction, it's off to the right and it's switch

[00:58:19] backs that basically bring you straight to the loading area.

[00:58:22] There's no theme.

[00:58:23] You're not going through the queue.

[00:58:24] You don't get to see all the Nepalese thing.

[00:58:26] You're just waiting in a museum.

[00:58:27] A switchback.

[00:58:29] You get next in line.

[00:58:30] It's not always going as creep factor goes I suspect it's the same as your space mountains

[00:58:36] and rock and rollercoasters just loading a roller coaster train from the same side.

[00:58:41] You probably have a load or two to get accustomed to the person that's standing there next

[00:58:46] to you.

[00:58:49] Time saver is high.

[00:58:50] The theme is kind of non-existent.

[00:58:53] It's not so cute.

[00:58:55] You're not seeing anything that is themed.

[00:58:58] Considering the extensive feaming in the queue, it's practically a pre-show.

[00:59:03] You don't see anything.

[00:59:04] Exactly.

[00:59:05] In the single rider, you don't get any of it.

[00:59:08] Yeah.

[00:59:09] It's a little bit of a matter of horn.

[00:59:11] It feels very...

[00:59:12] I know it sounds like an afterthought because you're going through the stroller heart but

[00:59:14] it feels very well integrated.

[00:59:17] You don't miss anything.

[00:59:18] Not there's a ton to miss but still to...

[00:59:20] There's nothing to miss.

[00:59:21] Yeah, I mean, there's no pre-show but it's still...

[00:59:24] There's an environmental.

[00:59:25] There's an environment aspect to it.

[00:59:28] You get the go-to link.

[00:59:29] You get the go-to link.

[00:59:30] You still get to hear the goat in distance and...

[00:59:34] You miss nothing.

[00:59:36] It's just pure...

[00:59:37] Time to distance?

[00:59:38] Yeah.

[00:59:39] Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about.

[00:59:41] I'm not sure about a goat.

[00:59:42] It's just sound effect.

[00:59:43] It's just sound design.

[00:59:44] Just like a goat or...

[00:59:45] I don't know.

[00:59:46] Maybe it's a lamb.

[00:59:47] Dan's really pushing for a Disneyland win here.

[00:59:49] Although...

[00:59:50] Go ahead Eric.

[00:59:52] He got web slingers but he didn't agree and we think you want to go to the lion.

[00:59:57] Yeah.

[00:59:58] All right.

[00:59:59] So, Tang, if I can summarize this, matter horn is effective.

[01:00:04] It's the same experience overall, just less time.

[01:00:08] Expedition Everest is less time than single rider but you're not getting the experience

[01:00:12] at all.

[01:00:13] You're missing the entire pre-show, Q, etc., etc.

[01:00:16] So you know, museum, you're just...

[01:00:17] You are getting in line to ride a roller coaster.

[01:00:19] Is there a lightning lane on Everest?

[01:00:21] Yes.

[01:00:22] Does it miss a single rider go faster than lightning lane?

[01:00:24] Yes.

[01:00:25] Lightning lane.

[01:00:26] Lightning lane get the EQ.

[01:00:27] Yes.

[01:00:28] The pre-show.

[01:00:29] Not all of it.

[01:00:30] Not the whole queue.

[01:00:31] Yeah.

[01:00:33] I can't remember where lightning lane joins in.

[01:00:36] You cut out the museum.

[01:00:37] Okay, so I wanted to give it to Everest because I think it's a better attraction but

[01:00:42] I know we're just judging and by...

[01:00:43] Thank you.

[01:00:44] ...and by...

[01:00:45] So I'm going to say matter horn.

[01:00:46] Oh!

[01:00:47] Do you have...

[01:00:48] Do you have a sound bite for why?

[01:00:53] For the matter horn?

[01:00:54] It sounds like it's a little more organized.

[01:00:57] It sounds like it doesn't change your experience very much.

[01:01:00] I feel like that's pretty good.

[01:01:02] Everest, you're really missing out.

[01:01:05] I think it's doing a disservice to that attraction to skip that even though if you've

[01:01:11] been on it a bunch of times, you can say you're going to do with web slingers but...

[01:01:15] Right.

[01:01:16] So yeah, I think I'm with you on this.

[01:01:19] Yeah, missing that EQ experience.

[01:01:22] Yeah, I'm with you.

[01:01:24] This is interesting because it's...

[01:01:26] And this isn't trying to be me trying to be competitive.

[01:01:29] I'm just realizing that...

[01:01:31] There we have it.

[01:01:32] No, try not to me.

[01:01:36] Here I am somebody who like I generally more times than not will go to the parks by myself

[01:01:44] and when I am wanting to ride these lines, it's more just like I'm just on it.

[01:01:50] I get to go all the ride.

[01:01:51] It's great.

[01:01:52] Whereas like I think if you're going with other people having more aspects of the show

[01:01:59] means more because it's more about like taking...

[01:02:03] I don't know.

[01:02:04] I think it's not like to be the only inter-base.

[01:02:08] You just go to like six flags because if you don't want theming and you just want to

[01:02:11] go on a ride, go to six flags.

[01:02:14] Well, I think the point here is that Matterhorn doesn't miss anything.

[01:02:19] Yeah.

[01:02:20] Everest misses everything.

[01:02:21] Yeah.

[01:02:22] All the other things.

[01:02:23] And there's much to miss in Matterhorn anyway, there's nothing to really miss but

[01:02:28] you don't know what you don't know with Everest.

[01:02:32] Everest I feel like sets the mood in the queue.

[01:02:34] Totally.

[01:02:35] Yeah, that's fair.

[01:02:36] You don't have to go and discuss, hey look at that big footprint with your neighbors but

[01:02:42] you're still soaking it all in even if you're chit-chatting you've seen it before gives

[01:02:46] you time to kind of get ready.

[01:02:49] Yeah.

[01:02:50] And I guess what I'm getting to is that to me I'm not saying that I'm more right or anything.

[01:02:56] I'm just realizing that to me it's like if I get into a single rider line, I'm just

[01:03:01] going on the ride.

[01:03:02] I'm not like right.

[01:03:03] I don't need an appetizer.

[01:03:06] It's just giving me on the ride.

[01:03:08] And it is about the single rider queue and I think in this case, I think we're going ultimately

[01:03:13] in the right direction.

[01:03:16] It's just not a direction that I expected is when I guess I'm trying to say.

[01:03:21] Well in the case of this, in both cases you're just going on the ride because you're not

[01:03:25] seeing anything either way.

[01:03:27] Okay, so moving on to the final four we have radiator springs racers versus Matterhorn

[01:03:33] and Rock and Roller coaster versus Web slingers.

[01:03:36] We'll start with the Western bracket and say radiator springs racers in its outdoor

[01:03:42] queue and Matterhorn in its outdoor queue.

[01:03:47] I think it comes down to which environment would you rather wait in?

[01:03:50] That's fair.

[01:03:51] Yeah basically right because you're seeing the ride the whole time for the most part.

[01:03:55] You're hearing the ride in both cases.

[01:03:57] You're outside in both cases.

[01:03:58] You're experiencing the same basic queue in both cases.

[01:04:02] Matterhorn sometimes you'll get to see a parade park part of it.

[01:04:05] I'm going to give it to Matterhorn because again, temperature, I feel like the high

[01:04:12] period and nothing else.

[01:04:13] At least there's some trees and stuff around Matterhorn and I feel like the Matterhorn

[01:04:19] itself can even block sun and whatnot from you where I feel like you're just baking.

[01:04:24] It's like you're at egg on the sidewalk at Radarers racers.

[01:04:27] That's fair because Matterhorn, it's 60 plus years of lush growth and whatnot.

[01:04:34] It is rather shaded nice breeze over there a little bit of a breeze way.

[01:04:37] It's yodeling and stuff.

[01:04:38] What do you get in your springs racers?

[01:04:40] There's loud cars that come by.

[01:04:42] Yeah.

[01:04:43] Matterhorn, you get a variety of stimulus like the yodeling and the Montereyl goes

[01:04:48] quite a few.

[01:04:49] Yeah, that's true.

[01:04:50] It's kind of energy.

[01:04:52] It's not just I'm sitting here and listening to an old radio.

[01:04:57] You know the thing that I really, really dislike about radiator springs now that I'm thinking

[01:05:01] about it?

[01:05:02] It's your walking past, you're running past, yeah, I got to go on this cars ride.

[01:05:08] I hate cars.

[01:05:11] You're walking past everybody.

[01:05:12] You're feeling good about the speed you're making and then you get this demoralizing area

[01:05:16] where you've got to switch back.

[01:05:19] Oh yeah, right at the end.

[01:05:22] Oh that's a good point.

[01:05:23] Why couldn't they have done the queue?

[01:05:25] Why couldn't they have put the queues?

[01:05:27] I mean I know it's in the attraction but why couldn't they have put the queue through

[01:05:31] more of the town or something like where you're going through some of the buildings?

[01:05:34] I don't know.

[01:05:35] Something more interesting.

[01:05:36] I'm with you Eric.

[01:05:37] Yeah, good point.

[01:05:38] Well, because then what would the land be?

[01:05:39] Good points all around.

[01:05:41] I'm just saying like, I wish they could have come with something different.

[01:05:44] It is very boring.

[01:05:45] It's very reminiscent of Thunder Mountain with less theming.

[01:05:49] Could they have done it like a cave?

[01:05:50] Like you would have been in the cave.

[01:05:51] Totally.

[01:05:52] That would have been cool.

[01:05:53] That would have been cool.

[01:05:54] You could have some bat noises.

[01:05:56] You're basically doing it at a Jod's queue.

[01:05:58] That fits my flat passage.

[01:06:01] And they could have done more cones and the different cars, they could have immersed you

[01:06:06] in that world a little bit better.

[01:06:08] Good point.

[01:06:09] Lots more later songs.

[01:06:11] Yeah, that should have been the queue is relic in roadsters or whatever.

[01:06:15] I think that's the queue.

[01:06:16] Well, Jimmy, I'm going to derail.

[01:06:18] Please.

[01:06:19] Podcast for a minute because this question just came up and I want to get both of your

[01:06:21] answers to it.

[01:06:22] So on the hub crawl, one of the questions we asked this week was if you could have a character

[01:06:26] an actor who was in the attraction.

[01:06:31] So Patrick Warburton came to Soren.

[01:06:34] That's what started this question.

[01:06:36] What character would you like to surprise you on an attraction that you like at Disney?

[01:06:45] I think just because of having seen it is Johnny Depp.

[01:06:49] I don't know why with pirates, but that's just my gut reaction.

[01:06:54] I'll let Dan answer and I'll come back.

[01:06:55] I want to see Timothy Chalamet in Galaxy's Edge and just be like what?

[01:07:01] I'm just confused.

[01:07:02] I'm not involved with the property.

[01:07:06] Oh, because doing this is so much.

[01:07:08] I do.

[01:07:09] I don't know.

[01:07:12] Felicia Rashad.

[01:07:14] Yes.

[01:07:15] 100% Felicia Rashad and dinosaur.

[01:07:19] Yeah, that's it.

[01:07:20] Totally close.

[01:07:21] I'm not.

[01:07:22] It's a good soon to be RIP.

[01:07:24] Just dub over her lines.

[01:07:26] Just speak while her lines.

[01:07:29] Yeah.

[01:07:30] I picked Patrick Warburton probably is my number two.

[01:07:34] And for people who know me, this would not be a surprise.

[01:07:38] Tom Holland for Spider-Man.

[01:07:40] Of course.

[01:07:41] Of course.

[01:07:42] Yeah.

[01:07:43] Good point.

[01:07:44] I grew over his picture in the queue.

[01:07:46] So having him be there, I would die.

[01:07:48] He's dreamy.

[01:07:49] No doubt.

[01:07:50] There's an interesting question.

[01:07:51] Mine was Bob Gerr.

[01:07:53] I want Bob Gerr to show up on the atopia and then jump the on an original atopia car.

[01:07:59] One of the ones that doesn't have rails and then jump the rail and drive down Main Street.

[01:08:04] Is that it's a confused and delight?

[01:08:06] Is that true to the question though?

[01:08:09] I would love to see Hutch Dano.

[01:08:10] The way the question was phrased, I thought it fit.

[01:08:16] I want to see Hutch Dano dressed up as Abraham Lincoln.

[01:08:21] Oh my God.

[01:08:22] It's still an inch.

[01:08:23] The grandson of Royal Dano.

[01:08:24] Oh my God.

[01:08:25] His name isn't Royal Dano.

[01:08:27] It's Royal.

[01:08:28] Yeah, I'm still sticking with Felicia.

[01:08:31] Yeah.

[01:08:32] I'm not going to have Felicia.

[01:08:36] Right.

[01:08:37] Okay, so move on.

[01:08:38] I'll just take this off but it's a great promotion for Hubcrawl.

[01:08:42] Listen to Hubcrawl to get the answers.

[01:08:45] Rock and Roller Coaster versus Web Slingers.

[01:08:48] Rock and Roller Coaster we just spoke about.

[01:08:51] You get the pre-show.

[01:08:53] It's hit or miss on speed, but effectively you get the same queue.

[01:08:59] Roller Coaster Slingers effectively get the same queue.

[01:09:01] You get the pre-show and save time.

[01:09:03] Ah.

[01:09:04] This is a tough one.

[01:09:05] Yeah it is.

[01:09:07] Because they basically are the same.

[01:09:09] You get real actors projected in a way that looks like they're there.

[01:09:14] You get current owner.

[01:09:16] I can't do my last answer.

[01:09:18] Stephen Tyler is my new answer.

[01:09:21] Oh, please, you were shot.

[01:09:23] That would be cool.

[01:09:24] He just shows up and he's just like, let's go out.

[01:09:26] We love our fans.

[01:09:28] Yeah.

[01:09:29] How do you feel about our fans?

[01:09:32] That's right.

[01:09:34] Crap, this one's difficult.

[01:09:36] So we try not to take you to account the actual attraction because I think Rock and Roller

[01:09:40] Coaster is a better attraction.

[01:09:42] Sure.

[01:09:43] This is a single rider line.

[01:09:44] That's right.

[01:09:45] So are you saying that the single rider line can be as long as the standby or can be

[01:09:48] as long as the lightning line?

[01:09:49] Can be as long as the standby.

[01:09:51] Which one?

[01:09:52] For Rock and Roller.

[01:09:53] Rock and Roller.

[01:09:54] It announced overhead, even when you walk into a single rider, this could take the same

[01:10:00] amount of time as standby just so you know.

[01:10:02] Okay.

[01:10:03] Well, I was going to give it to Rock and Roller Coaster because of the fact that they

[01:10:07] had somewhat covered OutdoorQ where I looked at pictures of the standby for web slingers

[01:10:13] and that looked like it was also in the sun.

[01:10:15] And apparently I'm thinking about not being in the sun.

[01:10:18] But judging by the fact that you'll probably get in a lot quicker, I'm going to go with web

[01:10:22] slingers for a time saving.

[01:10:24] Yeah, in the Tom Holland factor.

[01:10:26] Well, at Tom Holland because you don't skip Tom Holland like that's fair.

[01:10:31] Web slingers, the single rider is as shaded as I think Rock and Roller Coaster is.

[01:10:36] Well, Rock and Roller Coaster is almost all covered almost all of it shaded.

[01:10:41] Right, but I'm saying that like the single rider line portion of that web slingers

[01:10:47] is covering directly over it.

[01:10:50] You can say it's pretty quick.

[01:10:51] Yeah, I think for me because of the time saver.

[01:10:55] Again, like you said, if we were talking about attractions, I would rather wait for Rock

[01:10:59] and Roller Coaster, but because it's just such a crap shoot.

[01:11:03] Okay, so the final, the championship bracket is the Matterhorn versus web slingers.

[01:11:11] We did not figure this out.

[01:11:12] Web slingers cannot win this.

[01:11:13] I'm just saying.

[01:11:14] Well, I think web slingers wins because the Matterhorn literally has no pre-shale.

[01:11:19] There you go.

[01:11:21] Oh, and Tom Holland.

[01:11:22] Wait a minute.

[01:11:23] Wait, so but that's about the ride, not about no because you get to experience, you're

[01:11:29] not.

[01:11:30] It's the pre-show.

[01:11:31] It's still the cue.

[01:11:32] It's the cue Dan.

[01:11:33] There's more cue after the pre-show.

[01:11:36] And it's a different cue.

[01:11:37] It's the, it's the single rider cue.

[01:11:39] Also, here we go.

[01:11:40] Yeah, fine.

[01:11:41] I'll take that part out.

[01:11:44] Okay.

[01:11:46] It has air conditioning at least through part of it, which the Matterhorn does not.

[01:11:51] Which is interesting because the Matterhorn beat Rock and Roller radio springs racers because

[01:11:55] of the cooler.

[01:11:57] Right.

[01:11:58] Nothing beats inside air conditioning or if it's raining, you're still covered.

[01:12:02] That's fair.

[01:12:03] And the ride is probably still going if it's raining.

[01:12:05] Dan's having a lot of trouble processing this right now.

[01:12:09] You know, I would not want web slingers to win anything because I think it's actually

[01:12:12] kind of a garbage of trash.

[01:12:13] It's right.

[01:12:14] I know.

[01:12:15] But it's single rider cue is released from the one good thing about web slingers other than

[01:12:22] Tom Holland pre-show is that it has a great single rider cue.

[01:12:26] That's all I could say about it.

[01:12:28] There you go.

[01:12:29] Well, there you have it, folks.

[01:12:31] The web slingers.

[01:12:32] What is the full name of this attraction?

[01:12:35] I think it's just, isn't it just web slagers?

[01:12:38] It's capitalized WWE.

[01:12:39] Hold on a second.

[01:12:40] I had the app up a second ago.

[01:12:43] It's worldwide engineering brigade, which is web.

[01:12:48] Web slingers a Spider-Man adventure.

[01:12:52] And Matterhorn Bob sleds versus web slingers a Spider-Man adventure in the world of the

[01:12:58] Supreme Resort, the best, the most supreme single rider cue is web slingers a Spider-Man

[01:13:06] adventure, which you could bypass right now.

[01:13:08] It's a 45 minute standby line.

[01:13:10] There you go.

[01:13:11] I really live on the darkest timeline.

[01:13:15] Who to thank, ladies and gentlemen, that is the answer.

[01:13:17] Web slingers a Spider-Man adventure is the supreme single rider cue at all of the domestic

[01:13:24] theme parks.

[01:13:25] No, I have a question.

[01:13:26] What did you think was going to win each of you?

[01:13:28] I'm sure you all had different thoughts of what that's going to be.

[01:13:30] I thought it was going to come down to radiator springs racers.

[01:13:33] Versus Falcon.

[01:13:34] Falcon.

[01:13:35] Falcon.

[01:13:37] Based on our previous episode, I would have said the same if you're asking me, I would

[01:13:43] have said rock and roll across the road.

[01:13:45] That's fair because it is pretty good.

[01:13:48] Except for good game.

[01:13:49] Except for good game.

[01:13:50] One really bad experience saying that.

[01:13:52] Yeah, it just takes forever.

[01:13:53] But that's what I would have thought, take.

[01:13:55] But based on our last episode, listening back, I would say would have been between

[01:14:00] radiator springs and Falcon.

[01:14:03] It's interesting that you bring me on and that I took it in a totally different direction.

[01:14:09] Well, we deal with the subjectivity factor.

[01:14:11] That's the whole point of this show is we try to be as objective as possible but at

[01:14:15] the end of the day, it's the way you feel.

[01:14:18] We could have brought 10 other judges on and had 10 other answers.

[01:14:20] Yeah, that's true.

[01:14:21] And here they are.

[01:14:22] And from deal weekly, it's to read.

[01:14:28] You should have her on for one of these because I'm curious what she would pick on

[01:14:33] some of these.

[01:14:34] I'll have to ask her.

[01:14:35] We could do it together the bracket.

[01:14:37] Okay, we can do that.

[01:14:39] There are times charmed.

[01:14:40] That's all of the info.

[01:14:41] It's just re recordings of this episode.

[01:14:43] Yeah, that's funny.

[01:14:44] Okay, so back to the show.

[01:14:48] So that's that before we end and thank you again, take for joining us and we really

[01:14:54] apologize for all the technical difficulties we've had the listener to notice nothing about.

[01:15:00] Not a problem.

[01:15:01] Technology sometimes will just technology.

[01:15:03] And next year, we will have you back for potentially children's menus or dad shirts

[01:15:11] or dad shirts.

[01:15:12] So what's the idea of the children's menus?

[01:15:14] I'm just curious.

[01:15:15] The best I mean, Disney has wonderful children's menus.

[01:15:18] Yeah, is it usually just like a cheeseburger?

[01:15:21] Oh no.

[01:15:22] Oh no, sometimes the fries have a special kind of salt.

[01:15:27] Well, I mean, there's a fruit option.

[01:15:29] I think it nuggets.

[01:15:30] But you think about Narcusi's.

[01:15:31] You think about, I mean, California Grill that everything has at children's menu, you can

[01:15:37] get fish, you can get.

[01:15:39] I mean, there's a lot of different choices.

[01:15:41] Sometimes they're in stick form.

[01:15:43] Sometimes they're not.

[01:15:44] It's going to be very exhaustive.

[01:15:47] We did sit next to somebody for the Oogie Boogie Bash Dining Package and they ordered their

[01:15:53] child the salmon.

[01:15:54] And I was like, what timeline is this?

[01:15:57] Yeah.

[01:15:58] And the kid ate like two bites of it.

[01:16:00] I want to go to like classic to old menus because at like at King Stephens table, which

[01:16:08] is now Cinderella's Royal table, Cinderella's Royal table.

[01:16:14] In the early days, you could get a small beef tenderloin for your child.

[01:16:18] Yep.

[01:16:19] And that's true in some places still.

[01:16:20] So it's going to be exhaustive.

[01:16:22] We're going to get there or dad shirts.

[01:16:25] Well, I haven't been working on the menus episode for two years now.

[01:16:30] So we'll do a real good one.

[01:16:33] We'll do that then we'll do the take-you room.

[01:16:36] Okay.

[01:16:37] So before we go, I wanted to let everybody know if you and forgive me if there's any conflict

[01:16:43] here, you can plug your ears, tag.

[01:16:45] But concierge that's a five six hour ears to book your Disney vacation.

[01:16:50] We will do everything for you including your dining reservations, your theme park reservations.

[01:16:55] If you need them, which you don't add Disney World.

[01:16:57] We sponsor it.

[01:16:58] Deal weekly as well.

[01:16:59] Oh, great.

[01:17:00] That's right.

[01:17:01] Also, Disneyland Paris.

[01:17:03] We have a repeat customer in Mr. Stevenson.

[01:17:07] He and his family are going to Disneyland Paris.

[01:17:09] We were able to get them a really delightful package at the hotel new port.

[01:17:13] You can book your dining 12 months in advance.

[01:17:16] Holy crap.

[01:17:17] Once you've made your booking, you can book your dining.

[01:17:20] You do not need theme park reservations.

[01:17:22] If you were to go and piece me a lit and say I want tickets for this and I want to stay

[01:17:27] here and I want to do this.

[01:17:28] I did this with another client.

[01:17:30] The price is about 40% higher to do a non-package than to do a package.

[01:17:36] I only want to go for two days.

[01:17:38] Fine, but you're going to be there for three.

[01:17:40] It's less expensive for you to book the package with three-day park hopper.

[01:17:45] Lip package.

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[01:17:49] Their cancellation policy is seven days before travel.

[01:17:53] You can cancel a full refund.

[01:17:55] These are things that the other tour guides won't tell you.

[01:18:01] Disneyland Paris.

[01:18:03] Before we get their tag, is there anything you'd like to promote?

[01:18:08] I would like to say that you should book with concierge because James and I are actually

[01:18:13] going on a 13-night transatlantic Disney cruise that concierge is helping us with.

[01:18:20] It has been a wonderful experience.

[01:18:23] We wholeheartedly agree that concierge is where it's at.

[01:18:28] There's plenty of planners over there who are wonderful to work with.

[01:18:31] I believe you are still a planner.

[01:18:32] I am.

[01:18:33] Well, what happened was that take reached out to me and said, I'd really like to book

[01:18:36] through you and I said, you know what, take?

[01:18:39] I'd like to give someone else a chance.

[01:18:41] To be fair, Jimmy.

[01:18:44] To be fair, Jimmy, I asked Lindsay who their cruise person was and they said Bethany knows

[01:18:50] the most about me.

[01:18:51] She's the best.

[01:18:52] No doubt.

[01:18:53] I hooked up with Bethany.

[01:18:54] That did not come out.

[01:18:58] Bethany is wonderful.

[01:19:00] If you were to ask me, I would have actually said call Bethany.

[01:19:04] Yeah.

[01:19:05] She's been great and I'm very excited because we go at the beginning of May and that's

[01:19:11] going to be a nice day for you.

[01:19:12] I'm excited for you.

[01:19:13] Translantic cruise too.

[01:19:14] That's great.

[01:19:15] Well, have you had for a full trip report?

[01:19:17] Call Ryan.

[01:19:18] We're taking over the hub crawl again.

[01:19:20] That's right because he's going to be gone for a month.

[01:19:23] Celebrate hard.

[01:19:24] 36 anniversary.

[01:19:25] That's right.

[01:19:27] Take, what was the feedback last year when you took the summer off?

[01:19:30] What was the listener feedback that were, excuse me, the listeners you had left.

[01:19:35] Fair enough, but I will say that if I go look at our download numbers, let's let the

[01:19:42] download numbers speak back.

[01:19:43] The feedback was why aren't all the shows this long?

[01:19:47] So before I left, what was the, let's see, we were in the, we were in the, we were

[01:19:55] in the high 400 low 500 downloads per episode and then the summer hit and now people travel.

[01:20:05] We're actually back up where we were, so maybe it doesn't matter.

[01:20:09] But there was a blip, right?

[01:20:11] There was a blip of people thought the chaos was chaos, but we have gotten some feedback

[01:20:16] that they loved the chaos.

[01:20:17] So I don't know.

[01:20:18] It just depends on your tastes.

[01:20:19] Take enjoy it.

[01:20:20] Just like to answer all the questions.

[01:20:22] Just like Dan thought that web slinger shouldn't win.

[01:20:24] Didn't matter, it was not.

[01:20:26] There you go.

[01:20:27] And if you also love the chaos, listen to boats, play the boat explaining.

[01:20:33] Anywhere you get your fine podcast, other shows on this network ears up and ban the milk

[01:20:39] where they're talking about the bad batch currently.

[01:20:43] And then they, I'm sure they'll talk about the acolyte trailer, not sure.

[01:20:49] And then of course, puny pod where they talk about the Marvel Cinematic Universe and release order.

[01:20:54] And then scraping the vault where we're getting back to the straight to video sequels.

[01:20:58] Yeah.

[01:20:59] Fox two.

[01:21:00] Fox in the Hound 2, we just watched Princess Mona Noke.

[01:21:05] If you'd like a 10 year old.

[01:21:06] That is a great movie.

[01:21:08] Yes it is.

[01:21:10] Not made for children but listen to a children's opinion if you want to know what that movie's

[01:21:14] about.

[01:21:15] What's after Fox in the Hound 2?

[01:21:17] Cinderella 3.

[01:21:18] Oh yeah.

[01:21:19] Twisting time, baby.

[01:21:22] So Disney's upgraded.

[01:21:23] They've taken their sequels and instead of putting them direct to video, they're like,

[01:21:28] let's theatrically release these now.

[01:21:33] Right.

[01:21:34] It's like inside out too.

[01:21:37] Like every sequel.

[01:21:38] Yeah.

[01:21:39] For those in three coming.

[01:21:40] Yeah, that's fair.

[01:21:42] Yeah.

[01:21:43] All right.

[01:21:44] Well, well, that's a different podcast for a different time.

[01:21:45] In the meantime, thank you very much, Teg, for being here.

[01:21:47] We appreciate all your time and patience and thank you for your expertise and all of

[01:21:52] your content.

[01:21:53] We love listening to you.

[01:21:54] We love having you on the show.

[01:21:55] And we'll have you.

[01:21:56] Thanks for having me.

[01:21:57] I love being on and hopefully your audience enjoys it as well.

[01:22:00] You're not going to get too many hate letters for web slingers.

[01:22:03] If you want hate letters, listen to the Hound 2 Mansion episode before you're litigating.

[01:22:08] Okay.

[01:22:09] So thank you for listening.

[01:22:10] Everybody, be good to each other.

[01:22:11] We'll have a good time.

[01:22:12] We'll have a good time.

[01:22:13] That's right.

[01:22:14] And until next time, cord is adjourned.

[01:22:17] All right.

[01:22:45] Well, I'll be away for Jimmy.

[01:22:46] I'm going to go grab a pen.

[01:22:47] Okay.

[01:22:48] For my ass.

[01:22:49] Good.

[01:22:50] Oh, Eric, what is this show?

[01:22:59] What is this show?

[01:23:01] What is this show?

[01:23:03] I feel for Jimmy though.

[01:23:04] I feel like Jimmy tries to keep it together and tries to organize.

[01:23:11] Jimmy just rebooted.

[01:23:12] He should just click reboot and let it do its thing and come back.

[01:23:16] I'm sorry.

[01:23:17] What was your point, Eric?

[01:23:19] I'm sorry.

[01:23:20] I can restate the point when Jimmy's back.

[01:23:24] Okay.

[01:23:25] That sounds great.

[01:23:28] I have literally nothing else the rest of today.

[01:23:31] You guys probably have lives, but like this is bugging me.

[01:23:36] I got to edit this show.

[01:23:37] Oh, well, I'm sorry because every time it blips out, that's like this show.

[01:23:42] This is the more rewarding video to do in a while.