The Case of the runsDisneys: Volume 2

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[00:00:53] Welcome to the Supreme Resort Land v. World, a podcast about Disneyland and Walt Disney

[00:00:58] World and which is the Supreme Resort?

[00:01:04] And we're back. Let's talk about the current state of this runcation side hustle that

[00:01:09] Disney has been running for years. It's called Run Disney. Why Run Disney? Why Run Run Disney?

[00:01:19] Michael.

[00:01:20] Why Disney Run? Yes. Excellent.

[00:01:23] Wow, very wise answer. David.

[00:01:27] Yes.

[00:01:30] So what are the reasons, you know, what kind of drew both of you to this, this type of

[00:01:37] event? Like we can talk about the kind of general things that go on, but what brought

[00:01:42] both of you to this event in the first place?

[00:01:46] Go ahead, David.

[00:01:50] Interesting question. So when staying, so my family and I, we love going to Disneyland

[00:01:56] on one of the trips. My daughter and I decided to do an early morning in the park power

[00:02:03] walk through DCA through, I believe the Tenet Spa, I think it is.

[00:02:07] Yeah, yeah.

[00:02:09] And you know, it's a little 30 minute or so experience. It was super fun. And I think

[00:02:16] around, I don't think that the Disneyland runs were going at the time. They were

[00:02:21] going to Disney World and always had in my mind, okay, well if they ever come

[00:02:25] back to Disneyland, we're definitely gonna do it. Well, you know, fast forward

[00:02:29] a couple of years and they're still not back. And I saw those run Disney events in

[00:02:37] Florida and I was like, oh, let's sign up for this. Why not? She is on the East

[00:02:42] Coast. It's a short flight for her. We've never been. So why not?

[00:02:46] Okay. Good stuff.

[00:02:49] And that was just it. It was just let's do a fitness thing together. That's at

[00:02:52] Disney.

[00:02:53] Yeah. The thought of the, because we would look and see what the prior routes are

[00:02:57] like in Disneyland, if you're doing like, I'm my understanding if you're doing a

[00:03:01] shortest race of like five K or 10 K, you're pretty much in the park the whole

[00:03:05] time. Great distraction. Fun, you know, the, also the part which we experienced

[00:03:12] on the power walk thing was like it's nice to, it's kind of fun to be in

[00:03:16] the park before other people are there and he was kind of cool saying

[00:03:20] the maintenance crews, which, you know, perhaps you would see, perhaps

[00:03:22] you wouldn't, but like, you know, just a different experience that we

[00:03:26] wouldn't otherwise get. Okay. Well, we'll come back to that route portion there

[00:03:31] because that's really interesting. Mike, what kind of brought you to the

[00:03:34] races? Yeah. So when, when we got into the races, my wife was currently in the

[00:03:39] military and, you know, of course being in the military, general exercise

[00:03:45] and running was just kind of part of the deal. And so it was an opportunity

[00:03:49] for us to run with our family. It was an opportunity for us to kind of

[00:03:54] do that. And at the time we were in Savannah, Georgia. So we were four

[00:03:58] hours, we were annual pass holders and it just, it really fit with all the

[00:04:04] things that we loved. And then on top of it, I think really what was

[00:04:07] probably the kicker was Star Wars race weekends. And so, you know, our

[00:04:11] family's big Star Wars fans. And so that really was, you know, kind

[00:04:17] of the kicker to make that happen. And I think the very first one we did,

[00:04:20] it was our entire family, my son, daughter and Shannon of course. And

[00:04:25] we just had a great time with it. And my, our youngest son smoked all of us

[00:04:31] who hardly trained. It was, it was, you know, it's like a reminder of,

[00:04:35] you know, being, being hot to be young again. But it was a great time.

[00:04:39] Okay. So we've got two themes here. We've got the route and we've got

[00:04:44] theme. These are pretty big things in my mind as far as what,

[00:04:49] what makes these races different. So it, like David was saying, the,

[00:04:56] the routes through the park is really interesting because you're running

[00:04:59] behind the scenes, you're running through the parks themselves. You might,

[00:05:03] like you said, you might see maintenance crews. I can remember a

[00:05:05] Disneyland run where the third shift custodial staff was there. And

[00:05:12] I remember taking a picture and sending it to Lynn from the sweep

[00:05:16] spot because I'm like, yeah, I met the third shift people. And like it was,

[00:05:21] it's, it's cool because yeah, there are a bunch of cast members there. They're

[00:05:24] all volunteering. They're taking time out of their days when they could be,

[00:05:28] you know, not at work to hang out at a Disney park and help do these races.

[00:05:35] But then you're able to experience the parks in a way that most other

[00:05:40] people don't. And that really clicked with me going backstage is always

[00:05:44] fun. Going through the parks with a bunch of people

[00:05:50] was great. So what, what did you feel actually having run one this time?

[00:05:55] Well, I was a lot of things. So never having run this far before or never having

[00:06:05] run in a race. You know, I was a little nervous just in terms of the

[00:06:11] kind of the pace in terms of what to expect. I didn't really,

[00:06:15] I didn't really have like a lot of expectations since I'd never been in the parks before.

[00:06:21] I, it was early morning. So I was fortunately not too distracted with looking around and

[00:06:25] seeing everything and like, oh, I know what that, you know, I let me, let me look and see what

[00:06:30] that plaque says or do you mean like you're just kind of like head down just kind of running

[00:06:34] throughout. And I, I early in the morning, I didn't even know where I was running. I mean,

[00:06:41] I kind of obviously afterwards seeing a daytime you figure it out. But I was looking forward to,

[00:06:48] it reminded me a little bit of like other kind of community competition kind of events where

[00:06:52] it's very kind of supportive and I was like four to that the people before the race everybody

[00:06:56] was great. You know, it's not like once you get in, you're not like it's not like

[00:07:02] you're, you know, competing as a team or running like a tough mudder or something like that.

[00:07:07] But I don't know, I found it to be, I don't know the thought of like running like 10 miles on just

[00:07:16] that surface freeway does not sound very much fun. So being able to distract yourself with like

[00:07:22] visuals and, you know, by the time you start on this side of river, what's the

[00:07:29] Epcot we start on one side. It's like, you know, once you get all the way to the other side.

[00:07:32] Which showcase truck is that? And it's all right. There's a mile and a quarter,

[00:07:36] mile and a half. Right. Once you get out, we quickly got up to five miles pretty quickly.

[00:07:43] And I was like, Oh, okay, well, I'll be able to finish this. I don't feel this is going okay.

[00:07:48] Well, yeah. And that first half is notable because it isn't almost entirely in parts.

[00:07:53] And in your case, it's parts that you hadn't been in before. We hadn't gotten to that

[00:07:58] part of world showcase. You had never even been in Hollywood studios at that point,

[00:08:02] no, which has got to be fun to go running. Like I wonder what that's like to even

[00:08:07] go through and go, wait, where are we right now? I will say when we got to the Batu,

[00:08:12] the Star Wars land, I it took a lot of effort not to slow down and just start, you know,

[00:08:20] I was but running around like, Oh, well, the X-Wings in the wrong spot. Okay.

[00:08:25] Interesting. Like just ignore that. I'm just going to keep moving on. Let me stop

[00:08:28] trying to analyze what I'm looking at. That's great. Yeah. And you, and then you got up to the portion

[00:08:34] that that you, you've recognized is somewhat boring. Michael, would you like to expound on

[00:08:40] the boringness of certain certain rats? Yeah. Well, you know, that's the, the, the

[00:08:47] blessing and curse of Disney World is all the extra, you know, space and everything spread

[00:08:52] out. You know, I think they say that they could rebuild everything that they have already built

[00:08:56] at Disney World a second time and still have more space. So that's for people that haven't

[00:09:01] been there, you know, it's the size of San Francisco, they'll say. And so it's,

[00:09:06] it does, there's that boring factor. But I do think they, okay, so we don't like

[00:09:12] the cloverleafs. There's two specific cloverleafs in these races where you're either,

[00:09:17] you're changing elevations, they're crossroads that basically going over or under. And yeah,

[00:09:23] that's, I know David, you talked a lot about this, like you're, they, the way they bank

[00:09:28] cloverleafs for cars for centrifugal force issues causes you to basically be running

[00:09:33] like off canter, you know, for a good half a mile. Yeah. That's an ankle buster. Yeah.

[00:09:41] And so your strategy of moving down into the grass inside the cloverleaf that,

[00:09:45] that's what I did as well and it helps. But yeah, so that those kind of things are,

[00:09:51] are not great. But the rest of the boring kind of part parts of the race and we call it boring

[00:09:56] just because you're not in a Disney park. But there was some cool live music that, you know,

[00:10:02] they're, they're bands and marching bands that they hadn't come in. They like a full band

[00:10:08] that was their plan. You know, they've got some character meet and greets and things

[00:10:12] like that as well. And so they do try to spruce it up. A lot of DJs. Yep. A lot of speakers,

[00:10:19] right? Lunger out. Yeah. They had these cool cars with their big speakers and all that set up.

[00:10:23] And so, so there's some really neat entertainment there to kind of make the boring parts go a

[00:10:28] little, a little faster. I do have to say I like the distance on this 10-miler because it

[00:10:34] felt like in the half marathon when you're going all the way out to Animal Kingdom,

[00:10:40] it just, it seems like there was more of that. Maybe it's just the fact that the race was over

[00:10:46] quicker and we got back in because we spent the last two miles basically in EBCOT,

[00:10:51] would you say, somewhere around there? And so, so, you know, a little over four to get out of

[00:10:56] the parks from about eight back. So it was about a four mile run where it was not the most

[00:11:02] interesting but well, yeah, doable running up Animal Kingdom is another straight out and back.

[00:11:09] Or if you think about the princess, right? So you're running all the way out to Magic Kingdom

[00:11:14] and it's five miles down the road and then you run through Magic Kingdom for a while and then

[00:11:19] five miles back. That's kind of brutal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't,

[00:11:27] I would, the race felt like there were distinct segments to me. So there was the

[00:11:35] part you're in the parking lot. I would like to lodge a small complaint because when it was

[00:11:41] described to me, I felt like the pace would be fine. My whole thing is I just don't want to get

[00:11:45] swept up by the broom ladies. Like, okay, that part wouldn't do well. The loon ladies. Same thing.

[00:11:53] And there was a part where Eric said, you know what, like the first mile or two,

[00:11:57] you're just going to be walking because you're just going to be fighting humanity.

[00:12:00] And, you know, they've released our group. We were in like the second and last group

[00:12:07] and like people shout out like a cannon. I'm like, wait a second. I'm not ready for this.

[00:12:11] And so like first mile in my hamstrings are like, you know, maybe I should have

[00:12:17] done a little warm up, a little more warm up than but I'd say that by the time we got to the

[00:12:22] park, I was warmed up feeling pretty good. I think as I mentioned before, I got through about

[00:12:31] like mile two and a half and I have a preexisting like just calf injury which I popped again. So

[00:12:37] that changed my running speed but I was with my daughter and she kept a pretty good pace and

[00:12:42] actually over, you know, oddly enough by the end, I think our last several mile splits

[00:12:49] were actually our fastest like our slowest for our first two. I think part of it is you're just,

[00:12:53] we don't know what we're doing. You know, we don't know, there's no pace buddy. We're not

[00:12:57] quite sure who should be running with. You know, we're not drafting off someone else and so

[00:13:02] kind of figured out as we went along. So that's a good point. And yeah, you did the opposite

[00:13:10] of what most people do including me which is run too fast at the beginning and then slow

[00:13:14] down. My point, my purpose on this run was because I haven't gotten fully trained back up,

[00:13:21] I thought let's see how far I can get at the pace that I have been training at. The answer

[00:13:26] was five miles and after that I was overheated and feeling my crap so I slowed down and made

[00:13:34] it the other five miles but. Now to be fair, I thought in my mind I was running fast and

[00:13:43] then my daughter said, Hey, here's our split. We got to speed this up. I was like,

[00:13:47] Oh, okay. You were still running faster than me in every one of those splits and basically

[00:13:53] speaking to David's point about when I told him that it was going to start out as walking,

[00:13:57] I forgot because early on in most of the run Disney races, when I started running them,

[00:14:03] they'd release an entire corral at the same time. Yeah. And that starts out with like A

[00:14:08] and B group with a few hundred or a few thousand people to the final groups where here's the last,

[00:14:15] you know, 8,000 people going all out at the same time. And it can be nasty, especially when the

[00:14:22] routes start narrow like they do at Disneyland or when it gosh at, if you can imagine having

[00:14:29] that many people go out and then at Walt Disney World where the race went where once you got

[00:14:34] out of Epcot, you're running on this narrow pathway over to Hollywood Studios. You can't fit

[00:14:39] that many people on that path. The early races that I remember doing were actually from Hollywood

[00:14:46] to Epcot in the opposite direction. And at that point, people had spread out a lot more.

[00:14:51] But what they've done recently is add in extra waves. Waves. Thank you, Mike. Yeah. These waves

[00:14:58] and corrals where they yes, you might be in B but based on where you're standing,

[00:15:03] you're going to get released every two minutes. Yeah. And when I think I was in wave seven of

[00:15:10] corral B, so there was and there were still more behind me. So they tried to be up into probably

[00:15:16] eight to 10 waves. Yeah. And that helps out a lot because then you're not just letting everybody

[00:15:22] go all at the same time and the people who are really eager and want to get there at

[00:15:25] the front, they can. And maybe there's a benefit to that they can get a little out of the

[00:15:29] gates a little bit faster. It's not like, I mean, you're still going to be,

[00:15:33] you're timed based on when your bid crosses those lines. But at least you can get maybe ahead of the

[00:15:41] rest of the group. I noticed a couple pace runners. They had the little signs which had

[00:15:47] the pace which I thought was helpful. I think it might have been helpful to have a few more

[00:15:53] per group because I remember we caught up to the person that I believe was in the C group that

[00:16:00] had a pace of, I don't know if I'm going to make up a number, but it was like, you know,

[00:16:04] two 20 or two 10. Probably both were in C. Yeah. Yeah. But it would have been helpful.

[00:16:11] And again, maybe pace is kind of relevant at that point in time. Because our group started

[00:16:15] almost an hour afterwards. You're trying to do the math in your mind, but it would have

[00:16:18] been helpful to say, okay, here's the person and we're running at a 13 minute pace. And you're

[00:16:23] like, okay, cool. I can keep up with her or him or in that group if you will. But ultimately,

[00:16:31] you know, I think everybody kind of went and found and went at their own pace. Some people would just,

[00:16:36] you know, slow and steady. Some people were doing like the sprint and walk routine. Some were

[00:16:41] just, you know, just made some were just walking, which is fine. So yeah, I mean, there's a lot

[00:16:48] to learn there. And that, like we said earlier in the episode, it's one of the reasons why these

[00:16:54] races are so accessible. I mean, I've been in other races where there are pace holders. And

[00:16:59] that's nice. Here at the Disney races, they generally have the people holding up the pace

[00:17:06] signs are part of the Galway method, the Jeff Galway method of running and walking and

[00:17:12] interval races, which I can't maintain for any period of time. But some people really

[00:17:18] train that way. And that's one of, I mean, that's kind of the backbone behind the run Disney method.

[00:17:22] But Jeff was there. Did you see him when you came across the finish line? He was there on the right

[00:17:27] side just waving people on? Oh, I didn't see him. I was in total tunnel vision, like just go,

[00:17:32] just get, get across that finish line. My it was cool to see him. He had a big like

[00:17:36] thumbs up, like fake hand or something and people were coming by. Oh, that's cool.

[00:17:40] Yeah, I wish I'd seen it. Yeah, my, my left one, one of my quads was really cramping

[00:17:47] starting at mile nine. Like just keep going, just finish, just run so that you can finish faster.

[00:17:54] There's a banana waiting for you. There is a banana waiting for me. Exactly. That's what I kept

[00:17:59] saying. There's an underwrite banana at the end of the line. And there's always bunny in the

[00:18:03] banana in the banana stand. Yes. All right. So yeah, the routes are interesting for the most

[00:18:12] part. Once you get into the longer races, that's where you kind of have to deal with some

[00:18:16] you know, a little extra BS sometimes on both coasts really. You know, you can't contain everything

[00:18:22] within the park. So otherwise you're just running in circles the whole time and

[00:18:26] but yeah, the five K's, even the 10 K's usually can stay within the confines of a park or two.

[00:18:33] And that's kind of nice. Once you get past that,

[00:18:36] yeah, it's got to go somewhere else. And sometimes it's not always going to be super

[00:18:40] interesting. At least in Florida, it's not always running through, you know, an aqueduct or something.

[00:18:51] I don't know. We'll get to the west coast stuff eventually. Themes.

[00:18:58] Well, that's kind of in line with themes is I was going to ask David because I think before

[00:19:02] when we were talking, did you say you were kind of interested to see costumes and things

[00:19:07] like that? And I'm curious what your thought was about how people dressed up. Was it as much and

[00:19:12] as wild as you thought or was it pretty tame? What was your kind of, you see anything that you

[00:19:17] thought was interesting? That's a good question. I think

[00:19:24] I think it was tamer than I thought it would be. But I think maybe maybe because 10 miles is not

[00:19:31] really like a, you know, a jokey length. That's true. If it's a 5k, yeah, sure, someone's going to

[00:19:39] dress up like Chewbacca and run the whole way and like, you know, but there was pretty good

[00:19:46] costumes. You know, I was hard to mostly focusing on just breathing in pace. So it was hard for

[00:19:55] me to take mental note of a lot of them. Yeah, I liked there were a couple, there were a number

[00:20:02] of Lion King costumes that were pretty, they're pretty elaborate. It being the Hakuna Matata 10

[00:20:09] miler. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of people do it based on the particular theme. There were a lot of

[00:20:15] tumble monkeys from the show at the animal kingdom. Yeah, there were some costumes that

[00:20:20] was like that person come out of the animal out of the lion. What's it called? The festival?

[00:20:27] Yeah, I mean they looked like the costumes from the Festival Lion King. I was like, they were

[00:20:32] legit jobs of mimicking those like the zebra and like, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. And then

[00:20:39] there was just, you know, that those couple cut guys who just had like a Rafiki style rough and

[00:20:47] hood on and no shirt. And it's like, okay, we're good. I'm sitting right here when you're talking

[00:20:51] about Eric. Good for you, Mike. Good for you.

[00:20:58] If you got it flon it, Mike's like, hey, hey guys, my eyes are up here. That's right. That's

[00:21:02] right. Yeah. You see the two that were dressed out like caution cones? Yes. They were pretty

[00:21:09] good. That was that was pretty funny. I couldn't they interviewed them and I can't remember

[00:21:12] what they said, why they like they fell last year or something like that. Or they tripped over one of

[00:21:17] the speed bumps. Yeah, because they have caution cones around speed bumps. Just a little bit of

[00:21:23] race etiquette for everybody. If you in the run Disney races, they're pretty good about having

[00:21:28] a constantly repeating speed bumps ahead, speed bumps ahead, sharp turn ahead. If you're running

[00:21:37] in races where they don't have a voice constantly telling you that there's a thing

[00:21:41] coming up ahead. If you're if they're like stanchions in between on the roadway, it's kind of common

[00:21:45] courtesy to like point over the top of it as you run past so that everybody starts doing it and

[00:21:51] like getting in between them. You don't see that as much at run Disney because they remove most

[00:21:56] of the stanchions and don't have you like run into things because they remove all the cars from

[00:22:01] the road. I still managed to almost trip over. You know when they have the the lines in the

[00:22:08] road they've got this little kind of plastic reflector. Reflectors, yeah. I'm already on the

[00:22:12] sidelines and I'm shuffling up a hill and I almost trip and fall and it reminded me like,

[00:22:19] oh gotta lift my feet up just a little bit more. But no one pointed it out to me as I went

[00:22:23] up the hill. So yeah, I didn't realize it was that competitive. I thought we were all in the

[00:22:27] same team but anyway. Is that why you got in the fight with that that guy?

[00:22:32] Yeah, he looked at me cross that's going to happen when you're on a

[00:22:36] family friendly 10, 10 miler. But you know, you take me up, bro.

[00:22:43] I'm going to finish ahead of you in this non competitive race. I get to my

[00:22:48] under ripened banana and lay on the ground. I could have been 1478th.

[00:22:58] I think the oddest thing I saw and I think I mentioned is to you Eric. I don't know if I

[00:23:02] said that to you David but there was a lady in front of me. I never got to see her actual

[00:23:07] costume. But she was carrying a full on baguette like in like the paper and everything like look

[00:23:14] she just like picked up a baguette. It must have been a ratatouille kind of theme costume. I couldn't

[00:23:19] quite tell from behind her except she was jogging with this full baguette. And at first I thought

[00:23:24] maybe it was a carb loading strategy but by like mile eight she still had the full baguette

[00:23:29] running in. So I don't know what that is but there's some interesting stuff.

[00:23:33] Okay, maybe it was the post race reward too.

[00:23:36] Oh there you go. Crossed the finish line to just tear into that baguette.

[00:23:39] She just didn't trust to like put it in her bag, the plastic bag that she checked. She's

[00:23:43] like I'm just going to bring this baby with me the whole time. It's getting all warm and

[00:23:48] sweaty. It might just get my hands like get there. It's going to be all crass.

[00:23:53] Goodness. Well there's more to the themes of these races than just the costumes.

[00:23:58] Really a lot of the costumes are dictated by the overall theme of the weekend

[00:24:05] or the theme of the individual race. So we mentioned things like the princess race,

[00:24:10] the Star Wars races. Every year they change the kind of individual themes. For instance the

[00:24:19] 10k was really themed toward up and like Russell was the main character behind it.

[00:24:25] And this was the Hakuna Matata 10 miler and every single time it's a little bit

[00:24:33] different. The Star Wars races, you know it was choose between smugglers. Are you on Han Solo's side

[00:24:39] or Boba Fett's side? Are you with Luke or Darth Vader? There's always something like that. So

[00:24:46] a lot of people really go all out with the costumes based on those themes. Your shirts are

[00:24:52] based on those themes. Your medals are based on those themes. And that kind of brings me

[00:24:59] to some of the other stuff that you get when you do these races. Once the theme is established

[00:25:04] everybody's really looking forward to finding out what they are. If they're costume people

[00:25:09] they want to know what the theme is so that they can participate and build something elaborate or

[00:25:14] just fun or ridiculous, whatever their costume strategy is. But you also get stuff at every

[00:25:22] one of these races which is good. Besides a ripin' banana. Right.

[00:25:27] And a packet of peanut butter crackers. And some M&Ms this time. I haven't eaten those yet.

[00:25:36] They're plain M&Ms. They're not as exciting. Saving those for last. Right. Yeah, they literally.

[00:25:43] But yeah you get shirts based on whichever races you're running. So it's very much we

[00:25:50] mentioned the medals earlier. You get a medal and a shirt for each race. So 5K, 10K,

[00:25:57] half full marathon, whatever challenge you did, whether you completed a coast to coast

[00:26:03] thing. You get something for all of that. So you get lots of cool stuff. Then you have the

[00:26:09] opportunity to buy merch. You can pre-order a lot of stuff. A lot of these things are

[00:26:14] limited editions. Whether they're being resold, I'm not sure. But a lot of people will sign up

[00:26:21] ahead of time when you sign up for these races. There's this kind of like,

[00:26:25] uh, I just finally got through the line to order my race bib. Now I'm being offered this

[00:26:33] limited edition pin set. Do I need a pin set? Do I need this new jacket? Do I need the

[00:26:37] jacket? I think I need the jacket. And you either have to decide, you have to decide

[00:26:43] right then and there, do I get the extra swag? Do I pay the extra money and make sure that I get it?

[00:26:48] Or what if, what if it looks kind of lame and I don't want it? You're signing up ahead of time. And

[00:26:55] if you really did want it, you're probably not going to get it because it's going to sell out.

[00:26:58] Yeah. Can I just buy the medal and sleep in? That's right. That's how I'm thinking.

[00:27:03] Didn't see the medal for sale. Is that to finish it? No, no. Some people probably do

[00:27:07] sell the medals. There's probably, it's in the deepest parts of the dark web. Yeah,

[00:27:11] no, there's a guy that I know in the past that bought medals off eBay. So, you know,

[00:27:16] okay, Mike's got a fun new collection. That sounds really interesting. He's not buying

[00:27:20] medals from last week's. No, I went through the short phase where I was trying to track like

[00:27:27] every medal in the history and was starting from the back and buying them off eBay just to

[00:27:33] kind of start collecting. And I'm kind of on hiatus of doing that. But I thought it would

[00:27:38] be interesting to develop a collection of those. And that was a surprise to find how many of them

[00:27:42] you could find on eBay. After a certain point, I mean, yeah, you got a lot of medals hanging off

[00:27:48] that wall and your choice is do I install another rack? Do I start packing some of these up?

[00:27:55] Which ones do I not care about? And I've got some medals where I'm like,

[00:27:59] I didn't even like that race. This wasn't even a run Disney race. This medal kind of stinks.

[00:28:04] For sure. I have a few where I'm like, I didn't really even earn that medal. That was some

[00:28:08] like major challenge, virtual challenge thing that they mailed me the medal before I did the

[00:28:13] challenge. It's hanging on my wall and it didn't do it. Why is it? Why do I have this?

[00:28:18] Yeah. And Club Run Disney, they send you a virtual medal every year for whatever you're

[00:28:23] supposed to run like that. It's like, okay, I'm sure I did that in my training. Well,

[00:28:27] I got the medal. I might as well run it. Right. Yeah. Yeah, sure. But yeah, there's

[00:28:32] tons of different merch. We got to the merch event on the last day this year so that it was

[00:28:38] kind of picked clean, but we still managed to do some damage by some shirts and hats and whatnot.

[00:28:44] Was that the last day? That was the last day of the expo. Yeah. In fact, within the last hour,

[00:28:50] I think. Yeah, you showed up within the last 15 minutes. That's right.

[00:28:56] Let's see. So yeah, we talked about the routes that go through. We talked about themes, swag,

[00:29:01] race photos. David, you might be the most qualified to talk about race photos because

[00:29:08] you and your daughter crushed it with race photos. There are quite a few. We took photos before the

[00:29:17] race on our way walking up to the various starting points. We took some photos just as we started

[00:29:29] and then once we got to the parks, then it escalated quickly. There were, my daughter quickly figured

[00:29:38] out that there were photographers stationed on both sides and as you would run by, take a photo,

[00:29:45] you know, it's going to have your PIP number on it and quickly she started racking them up

[00:29:53] like infinity stones. Like she was, she like, yeah, she's just snapping her fingers at the end.

[00:30:01] No, again, first two, three miles, I'm kind of in a fog, not really sure what's going on. And then

[00:30:09] she, we're kind of running pace. We can't run side by side the whole time. Most of the time,

[00:30:14] we're running single file just because it gets kind of narrow and then I would see her kind of

[00:30:19] fear to the left and then like jump or smile or point or gesture or what have you. And I was like,

[00:30:26] oh, there's a camera. Let me look like I'm actually enjoying myself. And so we would kind of like

[00:30:32] fear long, we took some photos together. We posed for some, we did not do the any of the

[00:30:41] character where you had to physically stop and get lying. Yeah, we did do that. We stopped

[00:30:46] at one point in time to take a photo in front of I recall it being some sort of brush just because

[00:30:53] it was like, you know, five, six people lying. It gave us a chance for us and by us, I mean me to

[00:30:58] catch my breath but otherwise just garden and flower, I think so. I think so. I'll double check

[00:31:07] that because I'm sure people want me to avoid past show corrections, but I think so. But

[00:31:13] like for example, there was a line to see I were running up. There is some sort of restaurant on the

[00:31:21] left. I think this is in Hollywood land and there are people in this restaurant. I'm like, cool,

[00:31:27] let's get a breakfast burrito. Maybe they're selling beer. And no, that's the queue to go

[00:31:32] see Darth Vader. And I'm like, that looks like a 45 minute wait. And I don't want my legs to

[00:31:40] seize up. So I'm just going to keep on running. Yeah, that's always a choice is do you want to

[00:31:47] meet characters? We don't usually know who those characters are going to be on the route. So sometimes

[00:31:53] I remember at one point somebody's like, it's Phineas and Ferb. We got to stop at Phineas and

[00:31:58] Ferb. And they like these two guys near me freaked out and like pulled over instantly to go see

[00:32:04] Phineas and Ferb. And they're not characters. A lot of times it's not characters that you see

[00:32:12] often in the parks. You know, it's the boys from Onward. It's

[00:32:18] you know, various from Arista cats where you're like, I don't remember this cat's name. I got to

[00:32:23] stop now. Like I liked Barbosa was Barbosa captain Jack was is always isn't uncommon.

[00:32:32] But I don't know if I've ever seen Barbosa before. So yeah, if you're really into that,

[00:32:37] you need to kind of figure that into your time. Some people will try to qualify for earlier

[00:32:42] earlier corrals just so they have extra time to stop and take pictures. If that's what's

[00:32:47] important to you, if you're a character hunter, you're going to find characters.

[00:32:51] Well, who was you mentioned that story about someone that talked about

[00:32:55] started in Corralby? Yes, somebody in the Team Run Disney Facebook group that

[00:33:03] I passively monitor and kind of like really dig into when when there's a big event and see what

[00:33:11] everybody has to say. One person in particular and I can't remember his name posted that he

[00:33:18] started out in the very first corral of B group. And his entire purpose was to see as many characters

[00:33:27] as possible. He said he saw all but one character during the trip, took pictures with them and

[00:33:36] finished ahead of the balloon. He finished with the balloon people, meaning he almost got swept,

[00:33:42] but as well, Mike was saying this before the show, once you get basically once you get inside

[00:33:48] Epcot at the end, you're probably not going to get swept and that's the last two miles.

[00:33:52] Like they're trying to make sure that they can close they can reopen the roads and get people

[00:33:56] into the park. So there was this in this case it looked like there was a big old party hanging

[00:34:01] out with the balloon people. The balloon ladies read at the end as they crossed the finish

[00:34:05] line and he managed to see everything except for one I can't remember which one he said he

[00:34:12] didn't get to, but that's a feat. I don't know. I thought I didn't count them,

[00:34:19] but I felt like there were characters every half mile or so. I mean once you're in the park,

[00:34:25] I mean putting aside no they're not on the turn on this side of the road at

[00:34:30] five in the morning. Some of them are on the side of the road five in the morning.

[00:34:33] Were they before we when we started and we by the time we got when we left the parking lot,

[00:34:38] ran down the road. There was music and there were other things, but like once we got into the park,

[00:34:43] I thought the characters were every I don't know third of them other. I thought there were at least

[00:34:49] like 20 characters. There were a lot of characters in the parks, but I mean like onward I remember

[00:34:55] was was at the top of one of those hills after one of the clover leaves. I'm like oh gosh,

[00:35:00] it's it's both of the guys. And you know some of them were just there on the side of the

[00:35:06] road and yeah it's always funny the next day to drive by and see the generator still out there.

[00:35:14] They haven't completely cleaned everything up, but yeah that's another one of those aspects.

[00:35:18] If that's what you want to do you need to make time for it and you need to understand what your

[00:35:22] pace is. Are you willing to maybe get swept because you're or maybe you're a super fast

[00:35:28] runner and this is your break like this is you running at full tilt so that you can get

[00:35:33] a picture next to Darth Vader with a with a springtime outfit and then you can get back on the road.

[00:35:42] His springtime outfit is still black. Right yeah but it's springtime black. Oh of course.

[00:35:48] It's linen right? It's it's linen. You can't tell it's black on black. I can't I don't I don't know

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[00:36:32] required. Terms and conditions apply. If rated PG. I don't know how you'd be able to stop every

[00:36:53] single one unless you start early and you're a pretty quick runner because some of them looked

[00:37:00] I mean the photographers did a great job like here's your photo click move on

[00:37:06] and so I imagine that hastens it a bit but to stop at every single one you'd have to

[00:37:11] you must have been a um have some experience running because I would not feel I didn't feel

[00:37:16] comfortable really stopping. Yeah I agree I've never really waited in one of those long lines

[00:37:21] I've taken a few pictures here and there but only when the line was either really short or non-existent

[00:37:28] like the non-existent was hey there's Dr. Strange I'm literally wearing a Dr. Strange

[00:37:33] costume there's one person in front of me it was great Dr. Strange said well that's presumptuous

[00:37:39] and we both posed. Who would you uh who would you have stopped like okay I know this is a 20

[00:37:46] minute wait but I'm gonna stop and get this photo. 20 minute wait I don't I don't know anybody I mean

[00:37:52] I had a short wait during this one of the Star Wars runs because it was Ezra and Sabine from

[00:37:58] Rebels and I was wearing an Imperial officer costume and they kind of posed like they were

[00:38:04] you know arresting me or something and it's pretty good that was that was pretty good and I think the

[00:38:10] longest I've ever waited was the Hoth scene in the Star Wars where they they had this where you walked

[00:38:16] in and it looked like you were they had the scene flipped upside down so it was like the frozen

[00:38:22] ceiling you were standing on and then you reached up for the lightsaber and then when

[00:38:25] they took the picture they flipped it upside down for you so it looked like you were hanging

[00:38:29] which is really good except for my daughter who has long hair and gravity didn't work well for it but

[00:38:35] but the idea was so pretty good. There you go that's that's funny I don't remember that part but yeah

[00:38:42] but yeah like well the garbage can scene one is I think I might have waited for that. Well yeah

[00:38:47] actually with that one the time my wife and I did the garbage compactor was after the race

[00:38:52] they had a photo sequence after the race was over and yeah so that's another major

[00:39:01] major thing that you generally don't see. You don't generally see characters on races in my

[00:39:09] experience other than run Disney. Let's see I mean that's kind of a lot of the big

[00:39:17] the big stuff that goes on it's just a very unique sort of race it's very casual.

[00:39:24] Mike mentioned club run Disney this is probably probably the biggest controversy in

[00:39:32] the run Disney verse can you please explain to us what club run Disney is as a charter member.

[00:39:39] As a charter member I'll give up his charter status I'm so mad at myself for that but

[00:39:44] but yeah so basically it was a system designed for Disney to charge you more money so that

[00:39:52] then you could have some priority things such as we talked specifically about wine and dine

[00:39:59] and so like getting into that is extremely horrible if you're if you're I think a

[00:40:04] a gold or platinum level gold or platinum not silver that's right you're gonna have at

[00:40:09] least a guaranteed spot in the races and so it's like a lot of Disney things where they charge

[00:40:15] you a little bit of a premium and do you remember the pricing for in your shirt silver is 279 yeah

[00:40:25] platinum is 950 I was almost a thousand I didn't write down gold yeah and the platinum you get

[00:40:31] benefits like you know special places to hang out and you know you get some swag and things

[00:40:38] like that I still have I do actually still have my you know charter member club run Disney jacket

[00:40:43] it's it's my favorite I mean the jacket seems cool yeah but it's a jacket now the in addition to

[00:40:50] all the controversy about I mean I can understand paying extra to get early registration if that's

[00:40:56] really important to you I can see that and it gives you discounted pricing too I think yeah

[00:41:00] you get to keep a tier one pricing and it's I mean do they I actually don't recall have we've been

[00:41:08] getting early access for DVC and annual pass holders lately I don't think so I don't either yeah

[00:41:14] it's just club run Disney now the potential biggest portion of the biggest controversy

[00:41:21] is that if you're a platinum status you get guaranteed two registrations for each race

[00:41:27] weekend so you can buy for yourself and somebody else yeah and that's that's that's fine like that I

[00:41:33] understand that um you get a separate pickup location at the expo you get access to the expo

[00:41:39] merchant all of these things are fine you get your your jacket more swag but you also get an

[00:41:44] upgraded corral placement yeah you get moved up a whole corral so if you pay an extra grand

[00:41:52] and you're a pretty decent runner yeah could start in corral a or you join club 33 run Disney

[00:42:03] and they stood halfway and a Disney character of your choice will run with you

[00:42:08] and you can actually piggyback the last mile all right blue let's go don't give Disney any ideas

[00:42:14] Dave although that would be awesome I'm getting tired lift me why did I pick the candle from

[00:42:25] where's lightning McQueen I don't know I thought I thought Lumiere would be full-sized he's just a

[00:42:33] candelabra cracked cup is cracking why didn't you see him he seemed so cute he whistles when he talks

[00:42:43] just your cat keeps disappearing damn you run Disney club Disney club 33 run Disney

[00:42:56] 34 thousand dollars for your stupid one-year membership sorry I'll stop put your medal is pure gold

[00:43:03] paid paid for with the gold that you brought them that's right they just melt it down

[00:43:12] oh and give it back okay well that was that was fun all right well thanks for helping out with all

[00:43:19] of this before I get on to a comparison of east coast versus west coast because you neither of

[00:43:25] you have done a west coast race and I would kind of wanted to lay a little bit of that out there

[00:43:29] Mike any particular thoughts about this this race because David is coughing right now

[00:43:36] any particular thoughts in what realm I mean it's been a while since you did a run like

[00:43:41] you and I both it's been a while since we did a race it's been since 2020 right like how was

[00:43:47] it jumping back in yeah it was good I wasn't trained where I needed to be and that was

[00:43:52] kind of frustrating me going into it but but the pace was you know it's not a hard hard core race

[00:44:02] and so I had done I trained hard for about a month and then had some issues with a hip and then

[00:44:07] backed off for a month and I ended up being fine to finish the race I didn't get swept and so

[00:44:13] as I am I admitted to in the previous though of my shame at the the princess where I was swept

[00:44:20] so and I felt actually much better at this race than I did in the princess and so I

[00:44:25] thought it was a just a good length for people that want to start to get into longer runs

[00:44:32] rather than just five or 10k the 10 miler was it was a neat kind of intermediate

[00:44:36] you know working up to a half marathon for someone doing that so

[00:44:40] excellent well yeah I feel most most of those same things because yeah coming off of a back

[00:44:46] surgery I I didn't even realize I mean thinking back like that that was a bad

[00:44:55] chunk of my life dealing with back pain and then the back surgery and to see like my wife's uncle say

[00:45:02] the last time I saw you you could barely walk how did you do this yeah like oh okay I feel kind

[00:45:08] of good now because yeah I set a goal for myself that to finish and then when I started and I realized

[00:45:17] my brain might like I don't know how to run a slower pace than the pace that I've been training

[00:45:24] at and I thought just run at the pace that you train at and then when you really kind of

[00:45:29] crap out just stop stop running walk for a little bit and you and I met up when when

[00:45:37] I hit mile five and I was overheating I started feeling chills and went that's it yeah and I walked

[00:45:42] the next mile and I caught up to you walking and we we walked the rest of the way and and

[00:45:47] chatted for a little bit and I was fun and I started running again and then I did run walks for

[00:45:51] the rest of the race and and I made it and you know hey I made it five miles without stopping

[00:45:57] other than for like water it's awesome um so I felt pretty pretty darn good about that yeah

[00:46:04] and David you've this is your first any anything race slash run disney event like yeah what are your

[00:46:12] what are your kind of final thoughts here um so I guess as far as the event goes I would definitely

[00:46:21] do it again but I was well organized well run they worked out kinks did everything went smoothly

[00:46:28] so no complaints there I would um I like you both had we're dealing with some I like you both too

[00:46:37] I like you both but I like both of you um uh I hadn't wasn't able to prepare because I had

[00:46:46] like an injury and so that part was a little bit a little bit frustrating I was a little nervous

[00:46:51] coming in um I'm gonna talk to you both kind of help calm me down talking to my daughter kind of

[00:46:58] you know and eventually get a little closer it's like all right I'm just gonna do this it'll be fine

[00:47:04] but would like to have been a bit more prepared so that's something I would do different next time

[00:47:11] I probably get more than three hours sleep tonight before next time or before whatever

[00:47:15] I don't think I've ever gotten more than more than three hours of I can't sleep before a race I can't

[00:47:24] personally Mike any thoughts on sleep before a race or use nervous as I am before a race

[00:47:28] not really my first run disney for sure yeah but at this point now and I think we even

[00:47:34] talked a little bit about this because they're like get there at 330 I'm like I'm cool with rolling

[00:47:38] up five minutes before the before it opens and and and of course we didn't cut it that close

[00:47:43] but we we left at four race starts at five they say you can get there as early as 330 we left here

[00:47:50] in an uber at four and that we had an uber we had to find yeah who got lost we had to walk to our uber

[00:47:57] that was fun um but we I think we only sat in the crowds maybe 15 minutes before they started

[00:48:02] a race that's true and I personally I liked that rather than getting there um you know

[00:48:08] hours early sitting on the cement waiting or stretching or whatever and so that's me personally

[00:48:13] but okay yeah I mean it was um the time zone challenge was fun like some getting up at midnight

[00:48:24] at the race at like one I post something on Instagram and my buddy was like are you

[00:48:29] running two in the morning I'm like yes I am yes I am but it was all good it was all good

[00:48:36] it was fun um but definitely do it again had a great time with my daughter had a fun time

[00:48:41] with you all um got to see the parks it's fun it's good and I think what you're hearing too is that

[00:48:48] like you don't have to be in perfect shape to run these things you don't have to be super

[00:48:52] you know massively well trained and you know I'm thinking back to the race too there

[00:48:56] there were people of every age shape shape and size out there running you know and very true

[00:49:02] yeah and uh so if it's something that sounds you know even remotely interesting you know to you I

[00:49:09] encourage you to you know give it a try what was the um to your point there was um I noticed in the

[00:49:15] race there were some folks who were wearing um white labeled like on their there were certain

[00:49:22] types of athletes that were like AWD yeah yeah they were uh athletes with disabilities yeah

[00:49:28] and so some of them were running as groups some of them were running with like uh with a guy

[00:49:34] visually impaired yeah I thought that was yeah that was really cool I literally blind runners

[00:49:39] deaf runners yep people who are I've seen runners with tags like that who have you know

[00:49:46] who are missing one or both legs and are running on on those I feel like I saw way more

[00:49:52] of that this time than I had seen in the last run did did you feel that same way or did

[00:49:57] possibly yeah I've come come across a decent amount of folks like that before but this time

[00:50:02] yeah I think I maybe came across a few more maybe they're just better marked this time like they

[00:50:09] they were helped you know gave them reflective vests and maybe did better to help them do that

[00:50:16] oh and that's that's one thing before we continue one one other thing that I kind

[00:50:19] of forgot to put into the notes that I just popped into my head if you don't

[00:50:24] I mean if you want to support a charity or if you don't get in on the initial purchase

[00:50:30] several charities do support run Disney and they get extra bibs so you can run for various causes

[00:50:38] yeah and get a bib through them so basically what they require you to do is do some fundraising

[00:50:44] for them like make a wish for example I know it's always good yeah make a wish is usually

[00:50:49] there there's some veterans groups my wife has run for one of those before so it's like you know

[00:50:56] sure your your normal bib might cost $170 or something and you might have to raise like $500

[00:51:03] for the group but they'll give you some extra some extra clothing to wear for the race

[00:51:08] maybe something to carry but you I mean you still get access to to this and if it's a cause

[00:51:14] that you particularly believe in then that's even better for sure you know it's it they're

[00:51:19] they're very good causes it's usually for some sort of some sort of disease or or childhood cancer

[00:51:26] stuff childhood cancer yeah there was that guy who they they they interviewed before in one of the

[00:51:32] corrals who was carrying a flag PTSD veteran PTSD exactly yeah so yeah lots of great reasons

[00:51:41] to run and lots of other ways to get involved with with these with these races so yeah sorry

[00:51:49] to take over any other any other thoughts there um it's fun had a good time I would do it again

[00:51:59] I would encourage people to do it if you haven't done it before if you feel like you were saying

[00:52:04] you know I've never run that far I'm out of shape there's a lot of really good programs

[00:52:08] out there you know either a lot of good apps my daughter used I think Nike Run app and

[00:52:13] use that to help prep for this and I think she's gonna she's gonna sign up for the San Francisco

[00:52:18] marathon and so when she was never a runner before you know I'm not much of a runner

[00:52:24] and you know we had fun we did it everybody could do it yeah that's that's true it's

[00:52:29] it's very much a no shame sort of event very encouraging and yeah I mean obviously it's

[00:52:35] easier to start with a shorter race like a 5k but there are plenty of people that I've seen

[00:52:41] running tens and half marathons that that are you know they're they're doing fine they're walking

[00:52:48] they're they're doing what they can they finish and that's what's important to them is being

[00:52:53] involved with this and having that fitness level and um you don't you don't have to win the

[00:52:58] race um your sarcastic friends someone will always say who did you win and that's that's not the

[00:53:06] point the point is doing it yes so yeah get involved so since this is a comparison show

[00:53:15] I'm just gonna give you two a little bit of background on the Disneyland races versus what

[00:53:20] we've talked about with Walt Disney World and just get a quick sense of what you think

[00:53:26] might be better or worse versus your experience here uh let's see oh good my notes were all based on the

[00:53:39] the idea that I was going to interview people um at the race before and after about their experiences

[00:53:45] on east and west coast but I'm far too introverted for such things so the audio you heard is just us

[00:53:52] and David's daughter talking about the race before and after okay um so we'll just we'll just do this

[00:54:01] off the dome uh routes the routes are the are obviously going to be different it's a very different

[00:54:06] place uh 5k and 10k are almost completely within Disneyland and DCA and backstage because

[00:54:15] they're right there next to each other there's some downtown Disney there's maybe a little bit on

[00:54:19] you know harbor and katala just running around the resort uh but it's all contained right there in

[00:54:25] that neat little package you start out these days I'm assuming it's it's going to be the same going

[00:54:33] forward but you start out around what is now the Pixar Pier Hotel you end up around there um it's

[00:54:40] it's entirely Disney property then when you get to the half there's not currently a marathon there

[00:54:45] but when you get to the half you just kind of have to run around Anaheim

[00:54:49] I've seen a few different versions I don't know Anaheim well enough to understand

[00:54:53] where I'm running other than oh wait I'm at Angel Stadium and running through it and then back

[00:55:01] but it's it's interesting running through neighborhoods that I don't know I don't

[00:55:04] know where I am it's it's very much it's very different from the feeling of okay I can see

[00:55:13] that a mile from here there's that clover leaf so I'm gonna be I'm gonna be real mad in an hour or

[00:55:21] in in 10 minutes when I get up to that spot and I have to run uphill it's a different feeling

[00:55:26] because you're just running through neighborhoods and sometimes suddenly there's a marching band or

[00:55:31] or or a dance troupe or you know a group of people dressed up in stormtrooper costumes that

[00:55:37] are there to you know cheer everybody on it's it's it's a very different route and it changes a

[00:55:43] lot based on Anaheim you know who's approving what in Anaheim what the route's gonna be so that sort

[00:55:50] of thing is very different running through neighborhoods any thoughts on that yeah I mean unless

[00:55:59] you're like really amped up to run past like a coffee bean or a shakey's right that CVS is always

[00:56:07] there yeah the 100th Walgreens um yeah I mean I could see why running in Anaheim would not be

[00:56:16] once you exit the park I don't know that um visually it's going to be that super appealing

[00:56:23] I think Anaheim's pretty flat for the most parts that part's kind of appealing

[00:56:28] yeah um there is that bridge over there's a bridge over the i5 there's the bridge

[00:56:33] community members that come out like in Anaheim and cheer people on or things like that like I've

[00:56:38] done community runs that were non-Disney before where the community was really engaged that's a good

[00:56:43] point there's a lot of community there's almost always a car show okay where you're running through

[00:56:48] a car show and there's just a bunch of dudes with cool cars cars sitting there and folding chairs

[00:56:55] but like antique cars souped up cars it's there's always somebody like that there

[00:57:02] there are more bands there are more high schools there are more colleges there are more

[00:57:07] dance groups there church groups like there's just a lot of there are a lot of different groups out

[00:57:14] there yeah um so that is that is a good point and sometimes you get a lot of that with with

[00:57:19] Walt Disney World but there was there's always been more with the Anaheim runs sure

[00:57:26] so you were you were going to ask for a comparison or you're asking us to just

[00:57:31] yeah I mean if you if you have any particular like you're saying

[00:57:36] it's a little more interesting having other things to look at even if it's just a neighborhood

[00:57:42] yeah I think um again envisioning what a race at Disneyland would be like and and having done this

[00:57:51] um I think the Disney World race is you know for me from my perspective it's uh

[00:58:02] kind of captivating because I'm not familiar with the sites and so it's that it's novel it's

[00:58:06] unique right running through Disneyland would be like oh I've run I've walked past this a thousand

[00:58:11] times now I'm just doing it at a much faster pace with thousands of other people going in the

[00:58:15] same direction um I would like to do a Disneyland race I tried to sign up last time it opened

[00:58:22] up closed pretty quickly um I don't know that I'm going to join the club 33 run Disney club

[00:58:29] to that's so bad oh man there's one membership why can't we have nice things um but I you know I

[00:58:36] would sign up to do I mean I you know even though it's a short race I think 10k when you're almost

[00:58:41] entirely in the parks would be kind of fun just to really kind of have that experience that

[00:58:45] kind of goes back to the power run in the in DC that one time so yeah no and that's that's a good

[00:58:51] point uh let's see also about routes um at Walt Disney World you are going to run through two three or

[00:59:01] four theme parks at Disneyland in DC of course you just got the two and for the most part

[00:59:09] you're gonna run through them right at the beginning uh that's something that happens with

[00:59:13] the half there they get you out of those parks as quickly as possible and sure you're gonna be running

[00:59:19] on streets but they're gonna make sure that they can get those parks filled up yeah um they're getting

[00:59:24] you out of there so the rest of the race is just side streets and things um in my experience it

[00:59:31] you don't run back through a park like to finish no um the last few routes that I've done there

[00:59:38] you run essentially what's you run along um Catella well inside the park so behind Carsland

[00:59:47] you're running in that stretch behind Carsland and then across

[00:59:51] Magic Way into the parking lot is that Magic Way sure Disney Land Disney way Disney Street

[01:00:02] um to the parking lot of the the now Pixar Pier Hotel um so you kind of that's that's the last

[01:00:10] stretch is you just running through that area straight you run across and then you kind of

[01:00:15] wind through a little bit between uh that hotel in the Disneyland hotel and you end up in the

[01:00:20] parking lot where the party is I thought you're gonna say you started Disneyland and

[01:00:24] then you just run to Knott's Berry Farm hey let's go to Blana yeah beautiful Blana Park

[01:00:32] the ending of the trip is you have to go up the needle and look at the park and say something nice

[01:00:40] about it and then they let you out and they give you a medal that's that would probably work out

[01:00:48] probably the the inaugural Disneyland Knott's Berry Farm

[01:00:54] 12k raise that boys and run boys and run

[01:01:02] we round to something here um so many great quarter we had to go trademark this gosh

[01:01:09] let's see and then maybe the last big difference well let's see Expo wise it's it's always in the

[01:01:17] convention center at the Disneyland hotel you don't have to go to an offsite place it's nice

[01:01:22] that's fewer people you can kind of cram in there it's always a little bit of a fiasco especially

[01:01:28] especially if you're there the first day but it's always a fiasco no matter where you're going

[01:01:32] for these if you're there the first day are there fewer runners in california because of the

[01:01:36] size they have to limit it more or no I believe so okay yeah there's I I don't have hard numbers

[01:01:42] on any of this but it it always seems like there are fewer runners there and Walt ran the he ran

[01:01:48] the five or the 10k the first time um Walt was driven on a golf cart through the first Disneyland

[01:01:55] marathon and after that golf cart broke he changed it to a half marathon wow that's I thought I

[01:02:01] read that somewhere yeah yeah um and he rode Lillian um she he rode on her shoulders for

[01:02:08] the half marathon she was much more fit than Walt remember he he was missing a lung

[01:02:16] drinking drinking bourbon along the way right so yelling cast members who's got mists that's smoking

[01:02:22] cigarettes I love he's they were running past the the the hydration centers there's just one

[01:02:30] who's just holding up like a like a gin and tonic and someone else tries to grab it like no no

[01:02:35] it's for mr disney that's that's for mr disney and he he runs past throws the cup and says

[01:02:40] somebody clean up these cups there's too many cups on the ground Lillian faster

[01:02:50] David gets the assignment um the the last thing is similar to the expo where

[01:02:56] if you're staying on property like you should at Disneyland um eight five six hour years

[01:03:03] you should then well you you should be able to basically just walk out of your hotel

[01:03:10] walk through security and you're there at the start line I'm signing up I'm in for that it's

[01:03:17] it is vastly different it I have the same FOMO nerves like well fobal fear of being late

[01:03:27] nerves with with all of that and the it's a mixture of excitement and being late but

[01:03:35] yeah you're it's in almost entirely in your control you know where you're staying you know

[01:03:41] how far away it is you probably don't need a shuttle I don't know if there are shuttles

[01:03:45] this whole event here if you're staying at Walt Disney World if you're staying at a

[01:03:50] resort hotel you have to take a shuttle they're not the normal shuttles they hire a bunch of

[01:03:55] buses and you wake up as early as you can and hope that you get onto a bus that'll get you where

[01:04:01] you're going or in our case you hire a lift and you wander around bonnet creek looking for that lift

[01:04:09] and then you have to tell the lift driver how to get there exactly and then he follows a bunch

[01:04:17] of signs kind of and he says I let you out here and you're like no keep going

[01:04:23] so get as close as you can we're about to run 10 miles get me closer

[01:04:29] or I'm riding shoulders one of the two right but there's there's four of us that's going to

[01:04:34] be super uncomfortable no but um is it better let me ask you this is if you've driven to the

[01:04:39] events like how much of a nightmare is like the parking lot situation well I mean did you see like

[01:04:43] because you're right that our uber driver took us like all the way kind of up there were people

[01:04:48] that were parked way back down and then down the road like you're putting in a mile plus yeah before

[01:04:57] you get to like the staging area and then you know I go back to my you know my sweep my my you know

[01:05:05] race I was swept in when they started they had us corralled and then they left from the

[01:05:11] corral in a walking order that I swear was another mile and a half and then we started from there

[01:05:17] you know to run down to the magic kingdom and so there's there was a legitimate number of you

[01:05:24] know amount of walking there that that really does sound appealing for a disneyland

[01:05:30] yeah well um I mean it is a lot of a lot of a lot of disney walking a lot of walking with disney

[01:05:38] to the run disney event um there but but yeah I mean at least parking seems like a well

[01:05:43] oiled machine they had a lot of people they're directing but yeah you still got to walk you were

[01:05:47] a little nervous about the lift wondering if we were going to hit mass traffic and things like that

[01:05:51] and we didn't it was it was smooth yeah it's been a few years there have been some times where

[01:05:56] disney forgets how to do one of these all over again and traffic is just a nightmare and buses

[01:06:03] can't get in and cars can't get in because they closed the wrong roads and yeah it just happens

[01:06:11] every few years where something screws up and it doesn't work properly so that that's why all of

[01:06:16] that gives me a little bit of anxiety and my disneyland runs my voice is cracking out because

[01:06:21] it's quite late um disneyland runs are in some ways just a lot easier because you're probably

[01:06:29] staying close enough where you can just show up um okay well we don't have to make a decision about

[01:06:36] which is better because it's just anecdotal but but those are the big differences as I see them

[01:06:45] it'll be interesting to see how that changes as disneyland these races come back and we can

[01:06:49] compare them more I can tell you that at Walt Disney World I've never the night before a race

[01:06:56] ended my night with two car thing manhattan's and I have done that at disneyland I can't do that at

[01:07:02] Walt Disney World sounds like a great race prep regimen it was one of the fastest half marathons

[01:07:10] have ever run it would have been my PR if I hadn't stopped to pee at mile like 10 that's impressive

[01:07:18] thank you you're welcome you're welcome America and there you have it

[01:07:28] this is the the supreme run disney vacation event discussion we didn't decide which is the

[01:07:35] supreme event but we certainly had a supreme discussion thank you to my guests David and

[01:07:41] Mike for filling in and adding some color to what have would have been me talking for three

[01:07:46] plus hours otherwise I mean you could still edit us out entirely I could and or do like AI to change

[01:07:56] your voices to me there you go there we go I'll train uh maybe like you talking to yourself for

[01:08:04] three hours it'll be great yes um I've got time to do that on the plane tomorrow let's see and I'd

[01:08:12] also like to thank uh David David's daughter for giving some opinions as well before and after

[01:08:21] the race it was great to to meet her and see how enthusiastic she was about all of this it was

[01:08:29] that is she had a great time that was a lot of fun smiling she was doing videos the whole time

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