The Case of the Resorts: David Visits Walt Disney World

[00:00:00] Welcome to the Supreme Resort, Land V World, a podcast about Disneyland and Walt Disney World

[00:00:21] and which is the Supreme Resort. Each episode we will discuss and explore each resort ride by

[00:00:29] ride, land by land, park by park to determine which is better. I'm your host, Jimmy.

[00:00:37] Clear, clear. Sorry. Just need to clear my throat for a minute. Just to make sure

[00:00:43] it's been a while, guys. I'm your host, Jimmy, and thank you for joining me on this quest to

[00:00:46] help the greater good of humanity answer this long elusive question, which is better, Disneyland

[00:00:52] or Walt Disney World? Joining me as always, throat clear as a bell, that's Dan.

[00:00:58] Hi. We're back.

[00:01:02] And we're back. We also have Eric. You may have heard him from the last couple of episodes,

[00:01:08] Eric. I'm responsible for this mess. Yes, indeed. Also, you'll know him from the two

[00:01:16] episodes about Run Disney and from puny pod, our producer and guest extraordinaire. That's

[00:01:25] David. Hi, David. Also boys and boy. Let's not lose that credit. He's a boys and boy.

[00:01:31] He's a runner. He's a rugby player and he might be the sexiest 60 year old man I've ever

[00:01:37] seen. Oh, thank you. He's also a host of a certain podcast where they talk about very small things

[00:01:45] called puny pod. That's right. The Hulk is never mentioned. It's an Ant-Man only podcast.

[00:01:52] It is a quantum realm based podcast where we go very micro detail.

[00:02:01] David, thank you for joining us. David is also responsible for some of our favorite past

[00:02:05] guests. Your favorite past guest listener, Julie Tremaine. You remember her? That's because of

[00:02:10] David. Past guests, the lady with the stuff. Yeah. Other things. David, go ahead and give us

[00:02:19] your credit. Well, that was Jack Plotnick. He's not a lady, but he plays ladies.

[00:02:25] That's right. Jack Plotnick. David also Gothic Rosie. Is that right?

[00:02:32] Yeah. We'll take credit for it. It's fine. The less David says, the more we will pile onto him.

[00:02:38] That's right. He has notes. Anyway, David is responsible for a lot of the content that you

[00:02:43] have listened to in the episodes so far. Also a friend and a fan. Thank you for being

[00:02:50] here, David. Appreciate it. Also, David just went to Walt Disney World for the first time.

[00:02:56] That is the bulk of this episode. Before we get there, David and Eric have just finished

[00:03:03] their 10-mile run at Walt Disney World. If you've not listened to those episodes,

[00:03:08] go back and listen. They're a lot of fun. They were remotely recorded in their palatial

[00:03:13] villa at Bonnet Creek Resort, which is technically in the middle of Disney World,

[00:03:17] but not on Disney property. Yeah, fair. Yeah.

[00:03:21] I would like to hear after listening to the two episodes.

[00:03:24] Yeah. I mean, geographically in the dead center of Disney World.

[00:03:28] So there's this weird anus where they own someone else?

[00:03:32] Or sphincter. Yes.

[00:03:33] Or it is the sphincter of Walt Disney World.

[00:03:35] It's the sphincter of Disney World. There is a family who once they found out Disney was

[00:03:39] buying the property said, hell no. We're not going to sell to Disney. Then the people who

[00:03:45] held out died, gave it to their kids. Their kids are like, oh yeah, here you go, Hilton.

[00:03:49] Yeah. So it's across the street from the neighborhood where you can buy on Disney

[00:03:56] property, the rent. What's the one? It's a golden oak. It's across the street.

[00:04:01] So it's the most magical sphincter of them all.

[00:04:03] Correct. The most golden of oaks.

[00:04:06] That's right. So my question, now that you've had a before episode about the races,

[00:04:13] you run Disney at Disney World and you had an after, you've had some time to digest,

[00:04:18] you've slept since then. David, what is your overall impression of run Disney at Disney World?

[00:04:24] Well, as I mentioned on the other show, I've never done a run Disney race. I don't think

[00:04:30] I've ever even done a competitive race before. I mean, not that it was like hyper competitive,

[00:04:35] but I thought it was really well done. It's a great environment. It's fun to run

[00:04:38] through the parks. They have fine tune. It seems pretty well organized. There's not much

[00:04:45] you can really kind of complain about in terms of the way in which it was run.

[00:04:50] It started very early in the morning and I operated on very few hours of sleep,

[00:04:56] but the adrenaline kicked in and I had a really, really fun time running with my buddy Eric

[00:05:02] and with my daughter Olivia. It was fun. So one thing that I missed. Sorry, go ahead, Dan.

[00:05:08] Do you still have nightmares of the balloon ladies?

[00:05:11] I sadly did not see the balloon ladies. I did not. We'll get into when we talk about this part.

[00:05:17] I studiously avoided researching like run Disney or even Walt Disney World in advance

[00:05:22] of the trip. I just kind of wanted to be surprised and see. I was told about the

[00:05:25] balloon ladies. Mike said he got swept up one time, but I have not seen them.

[00:05:30] Okay. So my question having listened to both and forgive me, Eric, if I

[00:05:34] overlooked or did not hear it, but I would like to hear start to finish

[00:05:40] where you went in the race. Where did it start? Where did you run? Where did you end up?

[00:05:45] Because I know you're talking about different parts of it. I don't feel like I could see

[00:05:49] in my mind's eye, the map of where you went. I don't want to ask David because he's probably

[00:05:54] a little more unfamiliar with the property. So Eric, where did you start? Where did you

[00:05:58] finish and what was the wrapped? That's fair. Yeah. And that's what she said.

[00:06:04] Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, that is what she said. But what she said was we started out on a route

[00:06:18] that was near Epcot center and we ran through basically Epcot itself, like the World Showcase.

[00:06:26] So early on you're running through the World Showcase. You're saying hi in various languages

[00:06:33] to hola. Ni hao. Bonjour. Okay. Okay. Hello. Italy. Hello. And in Canada, it's like a weird

[00:06:48] version of French. Bonjour. Rocking hello. And then you ran along the very narrow trip between

[00:06:58] Epcot and Hollywood Studios. The World Showplace and that whole, did you run on the

[00:07:04] boardwalk side or the Swann Adolphin side? Or the Beach Club boardwalk? Beach Club. You went

[00:07:09] beyond all of that. Yeah. You kind of ran along the boardwalk side and then went on this

[00:07:15] narrow strip between the boardwalk side and the Swann Adolphin. Did you run under the bridge,

[00:07:23] under the road? Over them. Yeah, you went along the water toward Hollywood Studios and then once

[00:07:33] you got past there, you ran around the whole thing. The Hollywood Studios. Okay. Yeah.

[00:07:38] And David went, oh, I would like to visit this place. While you were running? Yes.

[00:07:44] And then when you visited it, well, this is a question for later. When you visited it,

[00:07:48] did you change your mind? Did you tell him that he should call it 856 RIRs to plan a trip?

[00:07:52] That's right. And yeah, that's what I said. I'm like, I'm running a race. Okay.

[00:07:58] Eric's like, I refuse to answer this question. You must call 856 RIRs. Eric, so you ran,

[00:08:04] did you run into the front gates of Hollywood Studios and down the Main Street or whatever

[00:08:08] it's called? Yeah, pretty much. And then you went west. And then you ran through Galaxy's

[00:08:14] Edge. Yeah. How did you exit the park? Yeah. That was a question. How do you exit the park?

[00:08:24] On foot. Oh my God. David, can you fill in? Do you remember what happened after that?

[00:08:31] I remember. Actually, I'm sorry. Before we move on, fun fact for people, I'm looking at the

[00:08:38] map. There is a hidden Mickey in the race route. I want to look at the map. It's a lot easier.

[00:08:48] I could explain it for everybody. I don't remember. I have vague memories of the actual

[00:08:55] course itself after we left Hollywood Studios. I think we were just on freeway after that

[00:08:59] the whole time. Cloverleafs up and around, back around. And then-

[00:09:04] I remember you talking about that. Yeah. And we ended up at the same,

[00:09:07] I think the same parking lot where we began, if I'm not mistaken.

[00:09:10] Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. It was a boring run down a highway over a highway and onto another

[00:09:17] highway and then onto another highway. And then we were in a parking lot.

[00:09:21] Did you use a zipper method as you were emerging?

[00:09:24] I mostly punched people that were coming toward me.

[00:09:27] Perfect. And unfortunately, one of them was a Sally.

[00:09:32] And Olivia hit back.

[00:09:39] Okay, so it looks like from the map- I lost 20 minutes of my runtime

[00:09:43] after she clocked me right in the face. I'm deducing from the map and from what you

[00:09:50] have said that you possibly went through Galaxy's Edge and then came out on Cyprus,

[00:09:57] ran behind Hollywood Studios, behind the Tower of Terror so you could smell the farts of it.

[00:10:04] And then you went on Cyprus. Well, not many people know that Tower of Terror is the first

[00:10:11] fart-powered ride at Disney World. Welcome to Florida, David. Fart-powered rides.

[00:10:21] Probably Buena Vista Drive, went back and then probably Epcot Resorts Boulevard,

[00:10:30] which is a good name for something that goes to one of many Epcot resorts.

[00:10:36] One of the many places where one of David Selle's children punched me in the face.

[00:10:41] And then probably through Epcot International Gateway.

[00:10:45] Yeah. And then- No, it looks like they went through the parking lot in the front,

[00:10:50] entered around Living with the Land is what it looks like. And then they go through-

[00:10:56] Oh, we did that. Yeah.

[00:10:57] And they went through kind of the front World Discovery and then around World-

[00:11:03] Okay. Yeah, World Discovery.

[00:11:04] Okay. Yeah, okay. Look it up, people. It'll be easier.

[00:11:08] Yeah, yeah. Look up that route. Don't listen to us and don't listen to the entertaining

[00:11:13] aspects where David and his children assaulted me on the way through the end of this trip.

[00:11:22] And I could have finished several minutes before them if they hadn't,

[00:11:27] you know- Assaulted.

[00:11:28] Just thrown me into bushes. Also, fun fact for fans of Hidden

[00:11:33] Mickey's, if you were to look at the map and take the round ball of Spaceship Earth,

[00:11:40] move Photoshop test track, the round test track, just kind of above it. And then Photoshop

[00:11:46] the round part with the seas with Nebo and friends also above Spaceship Earth,

[00:11:51] you would have a Hidden Mickey.

[00:11:54] You need to bring in some Tinkerbell magic into that to also help with the circles.

[00:12:04] Yeah. Tinkerbell was famously a fantastic graphic designer.

[00:12:09] Mm-hmm. That's a lot of highway running.

[00:12:13] That is a lot of highway running.

[00:12:15] It appears you ran past the Mickey Mouse solar panel farm.

[00:12:19] Uh-huh, where David said, why don't they just make it a big rectangle because

[00:12:25] I feel like they're missing out on some square footage of solar energy.

[00:12:32] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:12:33] This is before or after the children hit me in the face.

[00:12:35] He's right.

[00:12:35] It was actually during.

[00:12:40] Listen, you may have noticed that the blows may have given Eric a concussion.

[00:12:46] Okay. David again, thank you for joining. Really, folks, if you have not listened,

[00:12:51] listen back to the two episodes.

[00:12:52] Wait, David's here?

[00:12:54] Listen back to the two episodes of The Run Disney is a lot of fun.

[00:12:58] Also, the founder of Concierge is a part of that. That's Mike Renfro. He was there.

[00:13:04] Listen to that. In the meantime, we wanted to have a follow-up conversation with David,

[00:13:08] not just about Run Disney, which you just heard, but also about his first experience

[00:13:13] to Walt Disney World. This is the first time to Florida in his life.

[00:13:19] I've been to Florida for work, but I've never been to Orlando.

[00:13:23] It's no life then.

[00:13:25] Let me rephrase. This is David's first trip to Disney World.

[00:13:28] Before we explain why that's significant, I have some questions for David.

[00:13:32] David, for context, you're a lawyer.

[00:13:35] Oh no.

[00:13:37] First of all, just so the jury understands

[00:13:41] the significance of your trip to Disney World, how many times have you been to Disneyland?

[00:13:46] I'm not going to get sworn in, right? I'm just going right into it.

[00:13:49] No, you're not allowed to swear. We'll have to beep it.

[00:13:51] Okay. I would say I've probably been, I think about probably 40 times or so,

[00:13:58] 40 to 50 times.

[00:14:00] Let the record show 40 to 50 times.

[00:14:04] I have been an annual pass holder, key holder member for maybe the last 10 or so.

[00:14:12] Wait, at which Disney park?

[00:14:15] Yeah. You've got to be...

[00:14:17] I'm sorry, at Walt Disney.

[00:14:22] Disney California.

[00:14:23] Walt Disney. Yeah, I just had a downtown Disney membership for a long time.

[00:14:29] Then I converted...

[00:14:29] I guess it's a Starbucks punch card.

[00:14:31] And then I converted that to the DCA key and then finally updated and conclude Disneyland.

[00:14:38] Okay, so this is a Disneyland resort annual pass holder, give or take,

[00:14:43] maybe there was a couple of years there you couldn't go because of shutdowns, etc.

[00:14:47] So you've been an annual pass holder off and on for the most part for the last 10 years.

[00:14:51] Been 40 times. You do not live in Orange County. You live in Northern California.

[00:14:55] That is correct.

[00:14:56] This isn't just something on a whim you can go to.

[00:14:59] When was your first visit?

[00:15:00] I feel targeted by that comment and I don't live in Orange County.

[00:15:03] He doesn't live that much further away from it than you do.

[00:15:09] Sure lives from where, from where.

[00:15:12] Okay. David, load up your Google Maps and we're going to account for current traffic.

[00:15:18] If you were to drive to Mickey and Friends parking structure,

[00:15:23] right now, how long would it take you? I'm looking it up myself.

[00:15:26] Let me get my keys. Okay, hang on.

[00:15:28] While you're looking at that. Mickey and Friends.

[00:15:31] David is going to tell us when his first trip to Disneyland was.

[00:15:35] In the meantime, we're going to hear just how long it'll take David to drive.

[00:15:41] It would take me one hour and 55 minutes.

[00:15:43] And he's currently one hours and 55 minutes away.

[00:15:46] This is a Saturday afternoon.

[00:15:48] On a good day, it's less than that. How many?

[00:15:51] Six hours, five minutes.

[00:15:52] Six hours. I've got 14 hours and 12 minutes, Jimmy.

[00:15:56] Mine, 2700 hours. David is.

[00:16:02] Jimmy's walking it, it sounds like.

[00:16:04] Yeah. You ran a 10 mile or just watch.

[00:16:09] To answer your question, first time I went, I remember going as a little kid.

[00:16:15] My mom did not have a car so I remember flying on a plane.

[00:16:18] I think that was my first time on a plane. I remember throwing up into a vomit bag.

[00:16:25] Yeah, it was pretty, pretty. You show that plane.

[00:16:28] You show it. Since then,

[00:16:30] I've had a love of flying on commercial planes. I remember going to SeaWorld in San Diego

[00:16:36] and have vague memories of Disneyland, but that was the first time.

[00:16:40] And then I didn't go again until my kids were very young and then started going.

[00:16:45] That was probably going with my kids starting around 2005 or so.

[00:16:50] How many vomits were from your children and how many were from you?

[00:16:56] It was all for me on that one flight.

[00:16:59] I'd never experienced turbulence before and the plane smelled funny.

[00:17:03] After the vomit, that makes sense.

[00:17:06] The little known fact, vomit is a dissolving agent of airplane doorknots.

[00:17:12] So that's how you escape from an airplane.

[00:17:15] David might be responsible for the falling off doors of Boeing airplanes.

[00:17:21] So Boeing, you can stop killing off your whistleblowers and just blame it on the

[00:17:31] people flying.

[00:17:33] David, so you've been going since you were a kid, but in earnest,

[00:17:38] you've been going for let's say 20 years. Sounds about right, yep.

[00:17:41] In earnest as an adult, as a grown ass man, as they say.

[00:17:47] So you've mostly experienced Disneyland as an adult.

[00:17:50] So you don't really have a ton of childhood nostalgia.

[00:17:53] You weren't like an annual pass holder as a teenager.

[00:17:55] You're a Disney adult for lack of a better term.

[00:17:58] Yep. I would say that's right.

[00:18:00] Mostly experiencing it through my kids when I would take them and they really enjoyed it.

[00:18:05] But you also now go sans children.

[00:18:08] From time to time.

[00:18:10] Correct. Yep.

[00:18:11] What is your favorite ride at all of the Disneyland resorts?

[00:18:17] It's probably the Astro Orbiter with an E.

[00:18:19] No, I'm kidding.

[00:18:22] I would say in Disneyland, it would be Rise of the Resistance and in DCA,

[00:18:28] it would be Grizzly.

[00:18:30] I have a bone of contention about the episode with the best ride queue,

[00:18:36] single rider queue, which is the best ride queue.

[00:18:39] We're out of time. Thank you for joining us.

[00:18:41] All right, hey!

[00:18:43] You have a great trip to Disney World.

[00:18:46] Con-Tiers, 856 hour years.

[00:18:50] Oh sorry, there's more.

[00:18:52] Your attention please.

[00:18:54] David, you're not eligible for comment on previous episodes,

[00:19:16] but you do believe that Grizzly River Run is the best single rider line?

[00:19:20] I think it's very good in the sense that it is always fast.

[00:19:27] Eric and I talked about some of the single rider queues.

[00:19:30] There's an anticipation sensation if you're at the front of the single rider

[00:19:36] and you keep getting passed over and over and over like Matterhorn.

[00:19:39] You can be very frustrating when you just aren't getting on.

[00:19:42] And we'll take threes and twos.

[00:19:46] It's a big time saver.

[00:19:48] You're on pretty quickly.

[00:19:50] I don't think it has the creep factor that you all talked about.

[00:19:53] I think it's actually, you're in a boat with obviously a bunch of people you don't know.

[00:19:59] But I find it to be a little more sociable.

[00:20:04] Well, creep factor is also subjective.

[00:20:07] I need to find a creepier theme song to go along with this.

[00:20:10] Any of the listeners, do you have in your mind playing the song that is coming up in

[00:20:17] my head that sounds like maybe a Disney or Nickelodeon sort of

[00:20:21] song of a children's learning show called Anticipation Sensation?

[00:20:26] Anticipation sensation.

[00:20:29] I don't know.

[00:20:30] Anyway, so he said that earlier.

[00:20:37] One of the things I like about this show is we are talking about incredibly subjective matters

[00:20:42] and we try to be as objective as possible.

[00:20:45] But there's no way anyone in their right mind would say that

[00:20:50] Web Slingers is the best single writer line.

[00:20:52] How we landed there, I think was well executed.

[00:20:57] It seemed to revolve around what's air conditioned and what's not in the sun.

[00:21:01] And that seemed to be like the number one criteria.

[00:21:03] And David, because of this subjectivity of the nature of these parks, if you were the

[00:21:08] host or judge, excuse me, of the show, we were to do it all over again.

[00:21:11] We could have gotten a hundred different people and gotten a hundred different answers, right?

[00:21:16] So your opinion is not valid.

[00:21:18] And that's our next episode.

[00:21:20] Okay.

[00:21:21] So favorite rides are Rise of the Resistance and Grizzly River Run.

[00:21:26] You prefer that single writer line.

[00:21:28] It's good to know.

[00:21:29] All right.

[00:21:30] Now, moving on to Walt Disney World.

[00:21:31] Before you went, what are the top five things that you knew you wanted to do

[00:21:38] outside of running 10 miles?

[00:21:40] That you wanted to do at Disney World?

[00:21:43] So not die was the number one.

[00:21:46] Step one.

[00:21:47] I was, you know, it's funny as I mentioned before.

[00:21:49] You didn't die.

[00:21:51] Mission accomplished.

[00:21:52] Mission accomplished.

[00:21:54] Eric was there so I did no pre-trip work.

[00:21:58] I didn't research things.

[00:21:59] I didn't like look at ride throughs.

[00:22:01] I don't look at videos.

[00:22:02] And so I didn't have, oh, I really want to eat here or we really want to see

[00:22:05] this show for the most part.

[00:22:07] So I wanted to kind of come in as uninformed as possible.

[00:22:11] So I raised my brain in the last several years of this podcast and then went.

[00:22:17] But so for me, the things I really were looking forward to were

[00:22:20] the some of the really unique rides that you all have talked about.

[00:22:24] So things like Motorcycle Space Mountain, the Tron ride and Soarin' Over Pandora.

[00:22:33] I was looking forward to that one.

[00:22:34] And Remy's.

[00:22:36] Those were like the three.

[00:22:38] I think those are the three rides I really wanted to do.

[00:22:40] And then just to compare, you know, all the rides that I was familiar with,

[00:22:44] that I'm very familiar with from Disneyland.

[00:22:46] So like the mountains and small, you know, small world,

[00:22:49] haunted mansion, all that pirates.

[00:22:51] So those were the.

[00:22:52] So is that all considered one thing?

[00:22:54] So not thighs number one, not number two is all those rides or those.

[00:22:58] Yeah, I kind of, I kind of cheat a little bit, Jimmy.

[00:23:00] I, I, I said.

[00:23:02] There's a lot.

[00:23:03] Yeah.

[00:23:03] A lot.

[00:23:04] I probably have over five,

[00:23:05] but I, like I said, it was the three unique rides.

[00:23:08] It was experiencing the rent is an event, not getting swept.

[00:23:12] And then just some of the, just some of the comparison rides.

[00:23:16] So I don't believe he went on that ride.

[00:23:18] He does not know what that means.

[00:23:20] We totally went on.

[00:23:21] Oh, the.

[00:23:23] Yes, you did.

[00:23:23] Three of you Mexican Boat Party.

[00:23:26] That was the.

[00:23:27] No, because he had his kids stand.

[00:23:29] Oh, there were five of us.

[00:23:31] Why'd you ruin it and let your kids ride?

[00:23:33] You should have done your three caballeros ride of the caballeros.

[00:23:37] Right.

[00:23:38] I insisted that they ride a different boat, but they wouldn't go.

[00:23:41] Did we have, did we have in this show?

[00:23:44] Have we ever found an analog for Grand Fiesta tour monsters?

[00:23:51] Yeah, that's right.

[00:23:51] We did the whole show on it as a matter of fact.

[00:23:54] I totally won.

[00:23:55] All right now, David.

[00:23:58] Okay.

[00:23:58] So you, you did basically all the five things you wanted to do.

[00:24:02] You did.

[00:24:02] Yep, I did.

[00:24:04] Like I said, I had a few preconceived rides and the event and then just experience it

[00:24:11] and just having kind of an open, open mind and perspective just on things.

[00:24:15] And so yeah.

[00:24:17] In thinking about Disney World, having been to Disneyland, let's say 50 times over

[00:24:21] the course of your lifetime, most of that being over the last 20 years,

[00:24:25] having never been having listened to podcasts about it,

[00:24:28] having just in the zeitgeist or whatever.

[00:24:31] What did you expect overall?

[00:24:33] What was your overall expectations about what Disney World would feel like?

[00:24:37] What, what would it be?

[00:24:38] It's a good question.

[00:24:39] I, I felt like it was going to just be without knowing anything,

[00:24:44] just a larger version of Disneyland and DC.

[00:24:47] I just thought it was just imagine that and just multiply it by five.

[00:24:51] And it wasn't quite like that.

[00:24:55] Like there were certainly parts.

[00:24:56] I think part of it might've been like the order in which we saw

[00:24:58] who went to the different parks.

[00:24:59] So we started at animal kingdom day one, bopped over to Epcot.

[00:25:03] We didn't get to Hollywood studios until day three.

[00:25:08] And so the thing I kind of noticed early on, it like didn't like first two days

[00:25:12] didn't really feel like I was in a Disney park.

[00:25:14] There was no like, like theming in like the parking lot areas.

[00:25:19] I would say animal kingdom.

[00:25:19] It's not like, you know, I mean, you're gonna see some elements,

[00:25:22] but you're not going to see like heavy Disney influences, if you will.

[00:25:27] I will say that words do not describe how large the parks are and the parking lots

[00:25:35] are ginormous and everything is just, I was unprepared for how massive it is.

[00:25:42] Yeah. If you, if you were to tell me you were going to run 10 miles,

[00:25:45] you could have just run around Epcot's parking lot a few times.

[00:25:48] Yeah, totally.

[00:25:49] It's just, it is bonkers how, uh, how large that place is.

[00:25:54] And so I had no, you know, I didn't really know too much about how like the logistics

[00:26:00] of things, everything is a shuttle or a lift.

[00:26:04] There is no sidewalk.

[00:26:05] There is no walking to the parks.

[00:26:08] With the exception clearly between Epcot and Hollywood studios.

[00:26:12] Which you ran as part of our, our paid, uh, 10 mile run.

[00:26:17] Very limited exception.

[00:26:19] And of course you can walk between the Polynesian and Magic Kingdom and the

[00:26:25] contemporary Magic Kingdom, but you can't walk from the Polynesian to contemporary

[00:26:30] without going around the lake, which is kind of dumb.

[00:26:33] Why they don't have everything now.

[00:26:35] Have they now?

[00:26:36] Yes, they have.

[00:26:37] So there's your 5k.

[00:26:40] Just saying.

[00:26:41] I think I'd rather run in the park.

[00:26:43] Well, I'm just saying.

[00:26:44] I'm just gonna tell you.

[00:26:44] It's nice.

[00:26:45] Uh, but so with that space, the one thing, one of the things that really

[00:26:49] kind of jumped out at me is like you go to Disneyland and you can feel when

[00:26:53] it's crowded and it's a lot of people and there are like crowd choke points

[00:26:59] and I would describe them all throughout Disneyland.

[00:27:02] Everybody knows where they are.

[00:27:03] Right.

[00:27:03] And, uh, and now it's Ventraland.

[00:27:07] Uh, yeah, go ahead.

[00:27:09] It's like it's all over.

[00:27:11] Yeah.

[00:27:11] Most of them were there.

[00:27:13] Tomorrowland, uh, uh, up by small world.

[00:27:19] Fantasyland, all of it.

[00:27:20] All of fantasyland.

[00:27:21] All of fantasyland.

[00:27:23] Um, yeah.

[00:27:25] So going into the crotch of critter country.

[00:27:29] Uh, bathroom number three in Norland square.

[00:27:32] So you're saying that the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World is better

[00:27:36] across the board.

[00:27:37] All right, let's continue.

[00:27:39] Didn't quite say that.

[00:27:40] Um, but, uh, but yeah, so with that, that part was so navigating was pretty,

[00:27:47] pretty easy.

[00:27:47] Um, the, I think one of the things you talk about oftentimes on the show

[00:27:52] where the cues and the cues are, are really, most of them are very good.

[00:27:56] Get you out of the sun.

[00:27:57] Uh, I like you have a lot of ride cameras, which I was unprepared for.

[00:28:01] No, for video on ride photos.

[00:28:03] Yeah.

[00:28:03] The, there's a, uh, a great photo of being the kids, three grown adults in the,

[00:28:10] one of the doom buggies at the, uh, it's like, oh, I could put the son

[00:28:14] of Christmas card.

[00:28:15] Looks great.

[00:28:16] Dan and Eric really quick, um, future March madness best on ride photo.

[00:28:21] Ooh, yeah.

[00:28:24] Haunted mansion.

[00:28:25] So are people going to send in their pictures?

[00:28:28] Yes.

[00:28:30] That's right.

[00:28:30] Can I send in your pictures too?

[00:28:32] I was going to send in a picture, but, but only if it brought one of the

[00:28:35] presidents with me from the hall of presidents.

[00:28:37] Oh my God.

[00:28:38] And then mildly too.

[00:28:38] Is it Millard Fillmore?

[00:28:41] That'd be an odd, uh, wonderful photo op is you could get your picture taken.

[00:28:49] Oh my God.

[00:28:49] Right.

[00:28:49] President Trapp.

[00:28:50] Why don't they do that?

[00:28:51] Millard Fillmore.

[00:28:52] Oh my God.

[00:28:52] That'd be great.

[00:28:53] Anyway.

[00:28:54] All right.

[00:28:54] So, so, uh, David, um, you kind of heard what you kind of expected and

[00:28:59] then what your overall impression was.

[00:29:01] It's no way to describe the size.

[00:29:03] Um, you liked the indoor queue aspect.

[00:29:06] You liked the on-ride photo aspect.

[00:29:09] What overall was the single best thing about Walt Disney World?

[00:29:14] Somebody you come home and somebody says, okay, you can only tell me

[00:29:18] one thing.

[00:29:18] What is the best part of Walt Disney World?

[00:29:20] Incessant drinking.

[00:29:22] No, I'm kidding.

[00:29:22] Um, I would say, uh, the, I'd say the best thing about

[00:29:27] Walt Disney World is that it is because this is going to sound backwards, but

[00:29:31] because there are fewer rides and attractions, it kind of forces you to

[00:29:35] spend a little bit more time either with like other elements of the park.

[00:29:39] And I wasn't there long enough to really do that and say like Epcot

[00:29:42] or Hollywood studios, but it seems like there are a lot of exhibits,

[00:29:45] which I think are kind of cool.

[00:29:47] Um, and, and allows you to kind of pay a little bit more attention at times.

[00:29:52] I think it does know and especially when I go, usually it's like, Hey,

[00:29:55] Sammy rides can crush and there are certain things you kind of want to do as to do's.

[00:30:00] And the times when I take the opportunity to just kind of sit back

[00:30:04] and observe architecture or something, it's always something new that I see.

[00:30:09] And so the thing with Walt Disney World, I think that I enjoyed was the

[00:30:13] fact that there was a lot of attention to detail and just not enough time to

[00:30:17] do it all.

[00:30:17] There's just so much.

[00:30:19] Okay.

[00:30:19] And that gets us to another question in a minute before we get there.

[00:30:22] What was the most disappointing part of Walt Disney World?

[00:30:25] Oh, no.

[00:30:27] So I was promised by Eric that there would be a drug naked man on small world

[00:30:34] and that was stopped case.

[00:30:35] So no Florida.

[00:30:36] He was talking about himself, but okay.

[00:30:39] All right.

[00:30:39] Well, you know what?

[00:30:41] I couldn't find the drugs and 40 minutes, 21 seconds.

[00:30:47] So instead it was a sober naked man because he couldn't find his drugs.

[00:30:52] I'd say that the most, I would say there were probably two things.

[00:30:59] One, and again, this is just because of the order of the parks I went in.

[00:31:02] It didn't feel like I was in Disneyland or at Disney Park, I should

[00:31:05] say until like day three and stuff closes earlier.

[00:31:08] And, and I didn't think about the logistics.

[00:31:13] So the night where we ended up at Magic Kingdom, it's a little bit late.

[00:31:18] We're trying to get in a couple more rides and you, you dominated.

[00:31:23] The last few hours of rides.

[00:31:25] Yeah.

[00:31:26] Eric and Michael, like, Hey, we're done with this.

[00:31:28] We're getting out there.

[00:31:29] Mike and I went, all right, we're done.

[00:31:31] They're like, they're like blackjack dealers in Vegas to kind of like

[00:31:34] wipe their hands and they kind of like walk away from the, from the,

[00:31:37] from the poker deck.

[00:31:38] But, but getting like navigating around, we got caught in the

[00:31:43] firework show and we had to go, we were, I guess on the right side

[00:31:47] and we wanted to get over to jungle cruise.

[00:31:50] So we had to come all the way down Main Street, all the way back up

[00:31:53] we actually got separated a moment in time that was kind of freaked me out

[00:31:56] a little bit because I thought they're right behind me, but we were able

[00:31:58] to get back together.

[00:31:59] But then you only have two children.

[00:32:02] I only have two as long as they come back with both of them.

[00:32:05] I could come back with one and that's better than none.

[00:32:07] But, but then the, just the, there was the moment when we got out

[00:32:11] and I remember Eric and Mike said, well, you can get, you can take

[00:32:14] a bus to one of the hotels and then take a lift from there.

[00:32:18] But there was a moment of panic of like, oh, there are

[00:32:21] thousands of people leaving and the boats are going to be filled

[00:32:24] and the shuttle, I'm not going to be able to get a lift for the life

[00:32:27] of me.

[00:32:28] And so there was, that was probably that was a little moment of panic

[00:32:30] as opposed to just, oh, I'll just traipse back to my hotel or

[00:32:33] just walk down Harvard Boulevard.

[00:32:35] Right?

[00:32:35] Like, so that part was, I think that's the part that I dislike.

[00:32:39] Yeah.

[00:32:39] The, the trick there is to walk to the contemporary gear, get your

[00:32:43] lift from there.

[00:32:44] Which I think we're monorail.

[00:32:45] Okay.

[00:32:46] Yeah.

[00:32:46] We did, like, so we took a bus to, I don't know what, uh, some

[00:32:50] place.

[00:32:50] I don't know.

[00:32:51] No, yeah.

[00:32:52] Yeah.

[00:32:52] You went to the Riviera hotel.

[00:32:57] Oh yeah.

[00:32:57] I think that's right.

[00:32:58] Yeah.

[00:32:58] In Vegas, we, uh, I fell asleep on the bus and man, I woke up so

[00:33:03] confused.

[00:33:05] And, uh, yeah.

[00:33:06] Woke up in Walt Disney World.

[00:33:08] It was fine.

[00:33:09] Passed by the circus.

[00:33:10] Circus.

[00:33:11] I have a question and this might be on your list and forgive

[00:33:15] me if I ask what was the weirdest as someone going from

[00:33:19] one park from Disneyland, a Disneyland experience to a

[00:33:23] Disney World experience.

[00:33:24] What was the weirdest thing?

[00:33:29] Like the most like uncanny Valley moment for you.

[00:33:32] Oh, I would say probably in animal kingdom, that little

[00:33:36] weird dinosaur area.

[00:33:38] Okay.

[00:33:40] It's a little wow.

[00:33:41] With a little carny land that's going away.

[00:33:43] Yeah.

[00:33:44] That that struck me.

[00:33:45] Chester and Hester's Dino Rama.

[00:33:47] Yeah, that's seemed to struck me as a little not very

[00:33:50] farmish.

[00:33:50] Um, sure.

[00:33:51] Yeah.

[00:33:51] Yeah.

[00:33:53] More than a little.

[00:33:54] Yeah.

[00:33:54] More than a little.

[00:33:56] That was probably the, the.

[00:33:58] I think it wishes it was not very far.

[00:34:01] Yeah.

[00:34:02] Fair enough.

[00:34:03] So, and again, forgive me if I'm stepping on any toes

[00:34:07] here, but how, how, how was, was Pirates of the Caribbean

[00:34:13] part of the weirdness for you?

[00:34:15] Cause to me that was, that is such a weird, I, I, I'm not

[00:34:19] being, it's not in a critical sense, but like for me, for

[00:34:23] I enjoy ride.

[00:34:24] I think I know I've said on the show before I enjoy

[00:34:26] riding the pirates at Disney World almost more than

[00:34:32] Disneyland, even though objectively I feel Disneyland

[00:34:35] is far better children.

[00:34:38] It's just because it's just weird perspective.

[00:34:40] I was going to say, let's talk about this.

[00:34:42] That was my last question, but we can skip it up.

[00:34:44] So before you answer David, follow up question.

[00:34:47] What is the best version of pirates and why is your

[00:34:49] daughter wrong?

[00:34:51] You broke up for a sec, but I think you were asking

[00:34:54] my daughter who Eric caught on film saying that pirates

[00:34:58] at Walt Disney World was better.

[00:35:02] Yeah.

[00:35:02] The question was what is the best version of pirates

[00:35:05] and why is your daughter wrong?

[00:35:10] Breaking news.

[00:35:11] You can answer both questions.

[00:35:13] It was part of the weirdness pirates and which is

[00:35:17] better and Eric then tell us why your children

[00:35:21] changed his mind.

[00:35:23] It's a multi-parter.

[00:35:24] It feels like, it feels like an exam.

[00:35:26] So it definitely it's, it's, it's just not,

[00:35:31] it's just not what I'm used to.

[00:35:33] Like the, from, from the outside going through

[00:35:36] the janky chain at Disneyland, queue outside,

[00:35:41] you pick left or right.

[00:35:43] It's always right or always left.

[00:35:45] I should say, and then you're on the ride.

[00:35:47] You're, you're right there and you're in the blue

[00:35:49] Bayou, which is obviously, you know, very reminiscent

[00:35:52] of pirates from a couple hundred years ago.

[00:35:54] And it, and then just after that, like the ride

[00:35:59] just seemed sort of like a different ride at times.

[00:36:01] It's much shorter.

[00:36:03] And I think the reason why my daughter liked it

[00:36:05] more is because she doesn't love pirates.

[00:36:07] Pirates is my son's favorite ride.

[00:36:09] He, you know, I think the queue's better.

[00:36:12] Don't get me wrong, but

[00:36:14] Brian also expressed that the shorter ride was better.

[00:36:20] I think he liked the longer ride.

[00:36:21] He did miss the pirate water smell.

[00:36:23] That was the other thing.

[00:36:24] Get him on video.

[00:36:29] Maybe he's more honest with me than you.

[00:36:31] I don't know.

[00:36:33] And Eric is Brian's new dad.

[00:36:39] But I would say like, how do you feel like it's Dan?

[00:36:41] I'm just curious.

[00:36:42] Like, how do you feel like it's weird?

[00:36:43] Just, just that it just seems like a different

[00:36:45] different experience or, or what sense?

[00:36:49] It's more like I'm trying to remember the feeling

[00:36:53] that I had while, while riding it the first time.

[00:36:54] It was really the first time that I felt granted.

[00:36:57] I wrote it pretty early in my first trip.

[00:37:00] So it's not like I had several days and then all of a

[00:37:03] sudden it's like, oh, now I get it.

[00:37:05] But I just remember writing it and there were all

[00:37:10] of these little tiny like things that like

[00:37:15] just weren't called children.

[00:37:18] No, so there was aspects of the ride that

[00:37:21] weren't as dialed in and felt not as thought about

[00:37:25] as Disneyland's.

[00:37:27] And it kind of occurred to me that like, okay.

[00:37:31] So I'm kind of seeing here that because of the

[00:37:34] bigness of everything, every little detail has less

[00:37:39] of a chance to be noticed by everyone, including

[00:37:42] the people running the place.

[00:37:45] So there's a better chance that if like, let's say,

[00:37:49] and I'm not one of those people where it's just

[00:37:50] like, oh, that light used to be on, but like

[00:37:53] those kinds of things where it's like, if like

[00:37:57] a bulb goes out because that's what bulbs do,

[00:38:00] it's way more likely that it's going to be missed

[00:38:03] for a longer period of time at Disney World.

[00:38:05] And that's in general, not just the ride pipes

[00:38:08] of the Caribbean.

[00:38:08] No, but that's the moment where I, you're right,

[00:38:11] but that's the moment where I noticed it

[00:38:13] because it was like some of the lighting was

[00:38:16] a little bit to my eye off or like there

[00:38:21] were some parts where like some lights went

[00:38:25] or I don't know why I'm focusing that,

[00:38:26] but stuff like that.

[00:38:27] Like some of the lights were like aimed in a way

[00:38:31] that like kind of like shined in my face

[00:38:34] at certain points.

[00:38:35] I'm like, that wouldn't have happened in Disneyland.

[00:38:38] And it's just this general feeling of like,

[00:38:41] well, here's another Pirates ride because

[00:38:44] we needed a Pirates ride.

[00:38:45] Right.

[00:38:46] Well, yeah, and this is for me and perhaps

[00:38:48] some of the listeners every episode is somebody's first.

[00:38:52] Famous story, they were not going to build

[00:38:54] Pirates of the Caribbean at Disney World.

[00:38:55] They're deliberately not going to because they were

[00:38:57] so close to the Caribbean.

[00:38:58] So they're like, we're not doing that.

[00:38:59] Instead, we're going to do the Western River Adventure,

[00:39:02] which is this sort of multi-tier multifaceted

[00:39:05] kind of a Western Pirates version of the ride.

[00:39:08] And then they open it like, hey, where's Pirates?

[00:39:10] Because Walt Disney was on TV a couple years ago

[00:39:13] telling me all about it.

[00:39:13] And then they opened it.

[00:39:14] Where's the Pirates ride?

[00:39:16] And then funding, oil embargoes, et cetera.

[00:39:19] They're like, screw it, no more River Adventure.

[00:39:22] We're doing Pirates and it is very shoehorned.

[00:39:24] And it feels like it.

[00:39:25] Right.

[00:39:26] Or another experience for me was when I was in

[00:39:28] Tomorrowland for the first time at Disney World

[00:39:31] and I was like, oh, I guess I'll just hop on the train.

[00:39:34] And then it turned into, why isn't there a train

[00:39:37] in Tomorrowland?

[00:39:39] It would make a lot of sense for one to be there.

[00:39:40] There used to be.

[00:39:42] And it's not so much that it's wrong

[00:39:44] that it's not there.

[00:39:45] It's just that's what I'm used to.

[00:39:47] I'm just saying that younger folks who are not

[00:39:53] completely committed to the seven and a half minute

[00:39:57] pirate experience are saying, you know what?

[00:40:00] I have enough.

[00:40:02] I'm content with this amount of Pirates.

[00:40:05] What you want out of Pirates without all the extra.

[00:40:08] So for this TikTok society, they prefer the shorter version

[00:40:12] because I got the gist.

[00:40:13] I don't need the buy you.

[00:40:15] I don't need the slow.

[00:40:16] I don't need the kids.

[00:40:17] I don't need the lift back uphill because I'm done

[00:40:19] with the ride.

[00:40:20] I'm out.

[00:40:20] Right.

[00:40:21] Yeah.

[00:40:21] And Mark Davis was all, yeah, I don't understand

[00:40:25] that whole uphill thing.

[00:40:27] I don't care.

[00:40:28] How about we just make people get off the boat?

[00:40:31] That's something that I think we may have talked

[00:40:33] about before the Disney World does.

[00:40:35] I don't want to say better, but a lot more exiting

[00:40:39] the queue in a different area than you load.

[00:40:42] Well, there's a lot more space to do that.

[00:40:43] And Walt Disney World won that episode,

[00:40:48] those two episodes clearly.

[00:40:51] All three of those episodes, Walt Disney World won.

[00:40:53] Sure didn't.

[00:40:54] And nobody can say anything different because I'm lying.

[00:41:02] And there will be an appellate court being introduced

[00:41:05] to this show sooner or later.

[00:41:07] Okay.

[00:41:08] So David, would you?

[00:41:10] By the way, I will file a friend of the court brief

[00:41:13] for that.

[00:41:13] Okay, thank you.

[00:41:14] Sure.

[00:41:15] Okay.

[00:41:15] David, would you go back to Disney World?

[00:41:18] Yeah, of course.

[00:41:21] I felt like even with the amount of time we had there,

[00:41:24] we barely put a dent in it, to be honest.

[00:41:27] And you were there for three days.

[00:41:30] We were there.

[00:41:31] We were in the parks on, we got there Friday night.

[00:41:35] We're in the parks on Saturday.

[00:41:36] We're in the parks for half of Sunday after the race.

[00:41:41] Right.

[00:41:41] We're in the parks on Monday.

[00:41:43] And then my folks flew back.

[00:41:45] My daughter flew back to college on Tuesday morning.

[00:41:48] And then my son and I went into the park for like a few hours.

[00:41:52] And then went to work.

[00:41:52] So it's fair to say three total days, two full days,

[00:41:57] a couple half days.

[00:41:58] Yep.

[00:41:58] That sounds about right.

[00:41:59] Yep.

[00:41:59] I have a question for Jimmy and Eric.

[00:42:01] And this is a purely theoretical question.

[00:42:04] How long would it take for a person

[00:42:07] to meaningfully engage in every aspect of Walt Disney World?

[00:42:12] I'm sure there's been studies.

[00:42:14] One week.

[00:42:14] I mean, every aspect is very broad.

[00:42:17] Seven days.

[00:42:18] All the resorts.

[00:42:20] Yeah, maybe not stay at every resort,

[00:42:22] but have enough time in every resort

[00:42:25] to feel like you've seen it.

[00:42:26] Maybe not eat at every restaurant.

[00:42:30] Seven days, you think?

[00:42:31] Seven days.

[00:42:32] Ten days?

[00:42:33] Ten.

[00:42:33] A little bit too much.

[00:42:34] Between seven and ten days.

[00:42:36] I would say a month.

[00:42:38] Yeah, I would say to experience everything.

[00:42:41] You need a month.

[00:42:42] Yeah, I would imagine.

[00:42:44] The place is ginormous.

[00:42:46] So at least a week is what we're saying.

[00:42:48] No, I'm legit, Dan.

[00:42:50] A month.

[00:42:51] I'd say a month.

[00:42:52] You would need a month to fully feel like you did everything.

[00:42:55] And I'm talking like, well, I'm talking like maybe half a day at each water park.

[00:43:01] You go on the bigger slides at the water park.

[00:43:05] Say there's 30-something resorts.

[00:43:06] Ginormous two weeks devoted to each mini golf course.

[00:43:12] Well, I'm just saying that's mini golf, full golf, horseback riding.

[00:43:15] Right.

[00:43:16] The hoop to do review.

[00:43:17] Right.

[00:43:17] Like I'm talking about all of those things.

[00:43:19] Like you play a round of golf.

[00:43:21] You go on a horseback ride.

[00:43:22] I think a month sounds about right actually.

[00:43:25] And you probably wouldn't be able to do everything.

[00:43:26] Definitely wouldn't be able to stay in all the hotels,

[00:43:28] which that's not part of the equation.

[00:43:30] That's not part of it.

[00:43:30] Yeah.

[00:43:31] David, how many hotels did you stay in?

[00:43:34] In your life.

[00:43:37] Since...

[00:43:38] Answer now.

[00:43:39] 1969.

[00:43:39] Oh my God, I don't know.

[00:43:40] Great question.

[00:43:41] What time are we going?

[00:43:42] I'm not telling you how long it's been.

[00:43:43] When it's Disneyland, it's been four hotels, but five.

[00:43:47] No, five.

[00:43:48] Yeah, we stayed just the one.

[00:43:50] I can't, I would say that just seeing how broad everything is,

[00:43:54] you would have to be like a month just to get everything in.

[00:43:57] Yeah.

[00:43:58] And I'm not even, I'm anywhere of like a third of the stuff.

[00:44:01] So the legit question to kind of piggybacking on it is

[00:44:05] when you go back, how long will you stay?

[00:44:09] I would say...

[00:44:10] Or how many days should one go to Walt Disney World

[00:44:13] to feel like they experienced without taking a month,

[00:44:17] which is unrealistic.

[00:44:18] Yeah.

[00:44:18] Regular vacation.

[00:44:19] I'd say at least five days.

[00:44:20] However, if you would like, I'm sorry,

[00:44:21] if you would like to book a month vacation at...

[00:44:23] 8-5-6 hour years.

[00:44:25] There it is.

[00:44:26] So yeah, so a week.

[00:44:29] Five days in the park.

[00:44:30] So let's call it, leave on, get there on Sunday,

[00:44:34] Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday in the parks,

[00:44:38] leave Saturday.

[00:44:39] Something to really feel like you've done a lot of stuff.

[00:44:42] I mean, I, you saw the, and we'll probably get into it in a minute.

[00:44:46] We talk about like the ride list.

[00:44:47] Like I barely got through anything in like Hollywood Studios, for example.

[00:44:53] So, yeah.

[00:44:55] So let's say you go, let's just say you go for a week next time.

[00:45:01] Which park would you skip?

[00:45:03] Oh, you can only go to three.

[00:45:05] Animal Kingdom.

[00:45:07] Why?

[00:45:08] Because you hate animals, clearly.

[00:45:10] Because I can't eat the animals as Eric promised me we could.

[00:45:14] I thought it was...

[00:45:15] You didn't get the VIP tour.

[00:45:18] I thought it was the Kibumjer shooting safari

[00:45:22] and it was just the shooting was not part of it.

[00:45:24] No, they have a special tour where if you can,

[00:45:27] if you can catch the animal with your bare hands, you can eat it.

[00:45:29] And they'll prepare it.

[00:45:31] Okay.

[00:45:32] That's extra.

[00:45:33] Also humans.

[00:45:36] The most dangerous game.

[00:45:38] Cannibalism, the ride.

[00:45:42] Okay.

[00:45:44] Only reason I say that is because there are probably five or six like premier rides

[00:45:51] and it did them all.

[00:45:52] And so if I could not do it, that's the one I would skip.

[00:45:55] But I really liked it in looking at it quite a bit.

[00:45:57] Yeah.

[00:45:57] Ironically, the single largest Disney theme park on the planet.

[00:46:01] With arguably the least to do.

[00:46:03] Well, in my experience, Animal Kingdom is the one that I am aware

[00:46:08] that I am doing the most wrong every time I go.

[00:46:12] Because it would be so nice to just hang out, take in the vibes,

[00:46:19] sit across the glass from like an orangutan and just be like,

[00:46:23] what's up, orangutan?

[00:46:24] Let's connect, dude.

[00:46:27] Hello, Daniel.

[00:46:28] Oh, hello.

[00:46:30] Have you heard of Push Pop?

[00:46:33] I would love one.

[00:46:35] Thank you so much.

[00:46:36] Just smoosh it against the glass and I will like it.

[00:46:39] All I have is mango.

[00:46:42] Okay, so David.

[00:46:45] You also have to grab it because his arms are way up here.

[00:46:49] Anyway.

[00:46:54] But to your point, I would agree, Dan,

[00:46:57] like that I felt like I didn't experience any of the cool

[00:47:02] experiential kind of things.

[00:47:03] I went on all the rides I wanted to go on, but it wasn't like

[00:47:06] look at these exhibits or these experiences.

[00:47:09] Right.

[00:47:09] Which is a big part of it.

[00:47:09] And in fairness, to us, it's really, really, I would almost

[00:47:14] say impossible for many people to get into that zone of like,

[00:47:20] okay, I have four days in this entire giant thing.

[00:47:25] I'm just going to spend some time on this bench in animal

[00:47:27] kingdom, taking in what old Joe Rogan made for me.

[00:47:31] You know?

[00:47:33] Joe Rody?

[00:47:35] I have Vermeckton.

[00:47:36] Now, David, kind of a reverse question.

[00:47:40] Let's suppose you only have one day, like you're flying

[00:47:43] in, you're going to Miami for work and you have a layover

[00:47:47] in Orlando, you have a 12 hour layover.

[00:47:50] What are you going to do?

[00:47:52] Pleasure beach.

[00:47:53] Pleasure beach.

[00:47:54] Come on.

[00:47:54] Pleasure beach.

[00:47:57] I guess I'm going to pleasure beach.

[00:47:59] No, I'm going to, I'm probably going to go to Hollywood

[00:48:04] studios because I spent very little time there and then

[00:48:08] crush that for half the day and then go to Epcot.

[00:48:10] Okay.

[00:48:12] As aforementioned, you could run there.

[00:48:14] You and I could run there.

[00:48:16] Easy.

[00:48:16] You can walk there or take a friend or you could take

[00:48:19] a boat, a friendship.

[00:48:21] So for point of reference, Jimmy, what would be your one

[00:48:24] to visit and your one to skip?

[00:48:26] And Eric, same question.

[00:48:28] I'm not prepared for these questions.

[00:48:30] I only prepared the questions.

[00:48:31] I'll give you mine while you think.

[00:48:33] Go ahead, please.

[00:48:34] I'm skipping Hollywood studios and I'm going to,

[00:48:40] if it was some time ago, it would be Epcot all the way.

[00:48:43] I think now it's probably Magic Kingdom.

[00:48:49] Mm-hmm.

[00:48:50] I think you're right.

[00:48:51] And here's, here's why I would skip Hollywood studios

[00:48:54] as a Disneylander tower of terror.

[00:48:57] I've got it.

[00:48:58] Rock and roller coaster.

[00:48:59] I've got in credit coaster close enough.

[00:49:01] Mickey minis have got it.

[00:49:02] Star Wars land.

[00:49:03] I've got it.

[00:49:03] Star tours.

[00:49:04] I've got it.

[00:49:06] So really it's just Indiana Jones stunts to spectacular.

[00:49:08] It was the only unique thing there.

[00:49:10] Oh man, it was so good.

[00:49:13] It was pretty fun.

[00:49:14] Was it fun to watch when they say, oh, this is

[00:49:16] Harrison Ford stunt double from 50 years ago.

[00:49:21] It holds up so well.

[00:49:22] It does.

[00:49:23] It is a good show.

[00:49:24] It really does.

[00:49:26] But to your point, I mean, you could also take the arguments.

[00:49:28] Well, I can just skip Magic Kingdom because a lot of that is Disneyland as well.

[00:49:32] I suppose.

[00:49:33] Yeah.

[00:49:33] It's a reasonable argument, but Eric, do you want to answer the question?

[00:49:36] What do you skip?

[00:49:37] What do you do?

[00:49:38] I'm just going to hang out at Epcot all day every day.

[00:49:42] Okay.

[00:49:43] What do you skip?

[00:49:43] Oh, skip.

[00:49:47] Animal Kingdom.

[00:49:48] Why?

[00:49:49] Even though I love animal kingdom and I love the things that you can do there

[00:49:54] that are different than anywhere else, but it's like.

[00:49:57] Is it because you couldn't catch an animal with your bare hands during the VIP tour?

[00:50:00] Probably.

[00:50:01] That's probably it.

[00:50:02] I'm like going up Everest and I'm like, you know what?

[00:50:07] I just really want to grapple an alligator right now.

[00:50:12] That's Gatorland.

[00:50:13] Eric, I have to start Dan.

[00:50:15] But you can grapple an alligator everywhere in Gatorland.

[00:50:20] That's true.

[00:50:20] That's actually one of the experiences you could do.

[00:50:23] It's real.

[00:50:24] David, two final questions.

[00:50:27] First question is what is the one ride, if you could choose one,

[00:50:32] that you wish you would have done but didn't?

[00:50:35] Probably Guardians of the Galaxy cosmic.

[00:50:38] Oh, you didn't do it.

[00:50:42] Wow.

[00:50:43] Worth the price of admission.

[00:50:44] We didn't get there.

[00:50:45] I know.

[00:50:46] So reverse question.

[00:50:48] What is the one ride you did but would never do it again?

[00:50:51] Small world.

[00:50:53] Oh no.

[00:50:54] And why?

[00:50:55] Your daughter was disturbed.

[00:50:58] It's just inferior.

[00:51:01] The dolls are creepier.

[00:51:04] It's this weird like completely indoor experience.

[00:51:09] I do like the fact that the water extends all the way out

[00:51:12] to the various children diorama displays.

[00:51:16] Oh, sure.

[00:51:17] Yeah.

[00:51:18] As opposed to the water being contained in the channel.

[00:51:21] Yeah.

[00:51:21] And then you just see the carpet, which seems really weird.

[00:51:26] Well, there was a time, a very brief period of time at Disneyland.

[00:51:30] That's right.

[00:51:30] The water was not.

[00:51:30] It was the same way.

[00:51:35] Did you experience or notice the windows to Vietich Halls?

[00:51:42] And were people putting signs up to have you do stuff?

[00:51:45] Yeah.

[00:51:46] Oh, I think I did see something like that.

[00:51:48] They put up a sign that said, show your supreme.

[00:51:52] David did.

[00:51:53] I did.

[00:51:55] Oh my God.

[00:51:55] Yeah, they're full display.

[00:51:57] Can you even?

[00:51:57] It's, you know, Mardi Gras around the corner.

[00:52:01] These beads are not going to buy themselves.

[00:52:03] I don't know why they have that sign in a family.

[00:52:06] It's true.

[00:52:07] It is weird.

[00:52:09] YMCA, I get.

[00:52:12] Okay.

[00:52:12] So before we get to rapid fire,

[00:52:14] Dad, what's this sign?

[00:52:16] What does this one mean?

[00:52:17] I don't know.

[00:52:17] Hold it up.

[00:52:20] Where do my babies feed?

[00:52:24] Before we get to rapid fire, which is better, Dan and Eric,

[00:52:27] do you have any questions that I did not cover that you'd like to cover

[00:52:30] for David in his first experience to Walt Disney World, starting with Dan?

[00:52:34] I don't know if this is one of your questions or not, but what I know you've

[00:52:37] listened to, I think probably every episode.

[00:52:40] I think you're the only person on the planet that's listened to every episode of ours

[00:52:43] or not.

[00:52:43] And it's fine if not.

[00:52:45] What did we get wrong and what did we get the most right?

[00:52:48] Oh man, I didn't even think about that.

[00:52:51] It could be a general thing.

[00:52:54] Walt Disney World Pirates one, right?

[00:52:57] No, no.

[00:52:59] Okay.

[00:52:59] Just not part of it.

[00:53:00] Oh, oh, Haunted Mansion.

[00:53:03] Walt Disney World Haunted Mansion one.

[00:53:05] Is that right?

[00:53:06] We don't talk about that on this show.

[00:53:07] That's correct.

[00:53:08] Nobody knows.

[00:53:09] Yeah, I'd say that one.

[00:53:10] But that is going to be one of the appellate things now that the cues are changing and

[00:53:14] yeah, I'd say that the one thing I did notice,

[00:53:22] the emphasis that you all put on the cues and kind of the pre-write experience

[00:53:27] is a big deal.

[00:53:28] They do it pretty well at Walt Disney World.

[00:53:30] And so as I go back and I'll probably listen to some of the episodes,

[00:53:34] it just gives a frame of reference down with like, okay, now I understand why they made

[00:53:37] such a big deal about like, because the cues at Disneyland are especially if you're like

[00:53:42] Fantasyland or other, there's just a bunch of switchbacks.

[00:53:44] There's not that much there.

[00:53:45] Maybe there's like a Hidden Mickey or something.

[00:53:48] Note to listener, if you go to Disney World for the first time,

[00:53:52] you'll finally enjoy our show.

[00:53:55] Well, and also if you want to create Hidden Mickey's in the cues and fantasy,

[00:53:59] you just get three quarters and put them together.

[00:54:02] No, one quarter into Nichols, Dan.

[00:54:04] They have to be.

[00:54:05] That's true.

[00:54:05] That's true.

[00:54:06] Rub them.

[00:54:08] Keep rubbing.

[00:54:11] Do you want to finish the question or are we good with that?

[00:54:13] I think that's the question.

[00:54:14] Yeah.

[00:54:14] Okay.

[00:54:16] David, Eric, when it comes down to connecting your passes

[00:54:22] with the other passes of your party.

[00:54:25] Oh, I forgot about this.

[00:54:27] Which coast makes sense and which coast

[00:54:33] is absolute freaking nonsense.

[00:54:36] Yes, indeed.

[00:54:36] It's a great question.

[00:54:37] We have not covered that yet, have we?

[00:54:39] I was going to need to have a whole episode.

[00:54:40] The app experience by Disney experience versus

[00:54:43] They haven't fixed this?

[00:54:45] No.

[00:54:48] It did occur to me.

[00:54:49] It's funny in the lead up for the show,

[00:54:51] I was going to recommend like you have to do the apps.

[00:54:55] Yeah, I do like the one thing I do like about the Disney World labs.

[00:54:58] I do like the fact that they display like the

[00:55:03] the thing was something about like the ride weights.

[00:55:05] They displayed in a way that was different than Disney, which I liked.

[00:55:08] You can choose the time that you go right?

[00:55:11] Disney World for lightning lanes.

[00:55:13] You can choose the time.

[00:55:15] Isn't that like something that they do there?

[00:55:18] No, I think so.

[00:55:19] I think if you log in at 7am.

[00:55:21] Yeah.

[00:55:23] Okay.

[00:55:24] Okay.

[00:55:24] Okay.

[00:55:24] Got it.

[00:55:25] But once the park opens, you're just kind of whatever they give you.

[00:55:28] Well, yeah, it's like Disneyland.

[00:55:31] But for context, for the question for the listener who does not know,

[00:55:34] you go to Disneyland and the four of us are going to go together.

[00:55:38] Dan bought his ticket on his app.

[00:55:39] Eric has his.

[00:55:40] David has his.

[00:55:41] I have mine.

[00:55:42] If you're to go to Disney World, there is maybe no chance in hell for you to link the four.

[00:55:48] It's very difficult.

[00:55:49] You have to each one of you has to go on to your thing.

[00:55:53] And like you have to request that you're managed by someone else.

[00:55:57] David couldn't manage me.

[00:55:58] I couldn't manage Eric.

[00:56:00] Like only one person can manage all people.

[00:56:03] You can't manage each other.

[00:56:04] Now, here's the interesting thing is that you can do all of that stuff beforehand with

[00:56:09] Walt Disney World.

[00:56:11] But at Disneyland, you have to stand around in a circle and go, let's scan each other's.

[00:56:16] The barcode.

[00:56:17] Yeah.

[00:56:17] Barcodes.

[00:56:18] Yeah.

[00:56:19] Like what's better is it?

[00:56:21] Can you plan ahead at Walt Disney World versus Disneyland where you're a bunch of

[00:56:28] assholes standing around like scanning each other's phones.

[00:56:31] You only have to do it once.

[00:56:31] So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[00:56:34] I have an experience.

[00:56:36] Wait, wait, wait.

[00:56:37] I have an experience.

[00:56:38] This is a whole show.

[00:56:39] And I have an experience with 12 people with me at Disney World.

[00:56:43] We all bought tickets on 12 separate apps and it was impossible for us to all.

[00:56:48] We had to stand together.

[00:56:50] One, two, three, go get your lightning lane.

[00:56:52] And none of them were the same.

[00:56:53] You know what?

[00:56:53] Disney World does not tolerate singles.

[00:56:57] They don't want single men.

[00:56:59] It's what it is.

[00:57:00] Going to their parks.

[00:57:02] Yeah, that was fair.

[00:57:03] That is one of the single rider things just not real, which is weird to me.

[00:57:08] But I will say that the accessing the parks, that's one of the things I forgot

[00:57:13] to mention, was very easy.

[00:57:15] Like security lines were very short.

[00:57:17] Oh gosh.

[00:57:19] No, you don't have to put your bag up.

[00:57:21] You just walk through a metal detector.

[00:57:23] It checks your temperature.

[00:57:25] It checks your metal.

[00:57:26] You just walk straight through.

[00:57:27] It detects your Dan level.

[00:57:30] How much Dan are you?

[00:57:32] All right, you're good.

[00:57:33] Keep walking.

[00:57:34] Keep walking.

[00:57:36] He slowed down.

[00:57:37] He's a Dan.

[00:57:39] I got pulled over at Frisk because my Dan factor was too high.

[00:57:42] So yeah, now you know what it's like.

[00:57:48] That part was good.

[00:57:49] That part was I don't know why they don't do that at Disney.

[00:57:53] It's surprising because the technology exists.

[00:57:55] I've been to other places in recent past where it was that same sort of metal detector just

[00:58:01] walk through.

[00:58:02] You know why it doesn't exist at Disneyland?

[00:58:06] This is a real answer.

[00:58:07] It's because they've been waiting for Disneyland forward and why do that construction?

[00:58:13] Why bring in those things when you're just going to rebuild them somewhere else?

[00:58:17] I guess.

[00:58:19] Or move them.

[00:58:20] Yes, rapid fire.

[00:58:21] Okay, David, here we go.

[00:58:23] How about security when you leave?

[00:58:25] Yeah.

[00:58:25] Yes.

[00:58:26] How many souvenirs did you take with you?

[00:58:29] How many did you shove into your bag?

[00:58:32] What is your bank account as you leave?

[00:58:34] Do you have Buzzy?

[00:58:36] Did you take...

[00:58:37] How do you set the 3D glasses did you take with you, right?

[00:58:41] Okay, so David, we're going to do some rapid fire now for our listener.

[00:58:45] I'm going to read off a ride that you did and it's counterpart at Disneyland

[00:58:52] and I'm going to have you tell me which is better and briefly why.

[00:58:57] Okay.

[00:58:57] Ready?

[00:58:58] All right, here we go.

[00:59:00] Hold on before you get there, is the castle on there?

[00:59:03] Yes.

[00:59:04] Okay, good.

[00:59:05] Okay.

[00:59:07] Expedition Everest or Matterhorn?

[00:59:10] I will say Expedition Everest.

[00:59:14] Well, I will tell a funny story.

[00:59:17] So we are riding on the ride.

[00:59:20] My two kids are in front of me.

[00:59:22] I'm sitting next to Eric and Mike is in the car behind us.

[00:59:27] And we're going up, up, up, up, up.

[00:59:29] And it looks...

[00:59:30] And I look and I'm like, are we going to do a looped loop?

[00:59:34] And Eric's like, no, we're going backwards.

[00:59:36] And at that point in time, it slams, fly backwards.

[00:59:39] And I am just like, what is going on here?

[00:59:44] I think it's a...

[00:59:45] I thought it was going to be like the Matterhorn and I was completely wrong.

[00:59:48] But it's definitely a little more thrilling.

[00:59:51] Clearly he does not listen to every episode.

[00:59:53] Don't.

[00:59:55] I don't like...

[00:59:57] There's nothing I like about getting on the Matterhorn.

[00:59:59] Even the single ride line is not a great experience.

[01:00:02] They don't like to queue.

[01:00:04] I do like to use the...

[01:00:05] No web slingers, that's for sure.

[01:00:06] No web slingers as we've been certain.

[01:00:08] There's no air conditioning.

[01:00:12] It'll be one of the few victories for Walt Disney World.

[01:00:15] But we'll see.

[01:00:16] I see.

[01:00:17] Okay, Cali River Rapids versus Grizzly River Runs.

[01:00:20] Not even close.

[01:00:21] That's just an insulting question.

[01:00:22] How many children fired water into your face?

[01:00:26] None.

[01:00:27] I was surprised.

[01:00:29] There's only one fall.

[01:00:32] It was like not quick to get on.

[01:00:36] There's no single ride line for some reason because they hate single people in Florida.

[01:00:40] Don't say single as the expression goes.

[01:00:43] And while I like the idea of people splashing the water,

[01:00:47] I can also see why that'd be irksome to people.

[01:00:51] So I'd say...

[01:00:51] How much shame did you feel about forestation?

[01:00:56] Deforestation.

[01:00:57] I just had that little single tier.

[01:01:02] Did you plant a tree when you got home?

[01:01:05] Oh yeah, I did.

[01:01:07] Okay, dinosaur or Indiana Jones?

[01:01:12] I prefer Indiana Jones.

[01:01:14] Because I will say I look pretty...

[01:01:16] I just like the theming more.

[01:01:18] How much mustard is Indiana Jones?

[01:01:20] I mean how many ketchup, mustard and mayo lines?

[01:01:25] I did like the fact that they had...

[01:01:27] One of my favorite pictures from the event was the

[01:01:30] dinosaur snap picture they do at the very end or during the ride.

[01:01:32] That was a lot of fun.

[01:01:33] My daughter actually likes dinosaur more than Indiana Jones.

[01:01:37] I've actually come around to...

[01:01:40] In hearing people's discussions about this,

[01:01:43] because I watch all the YouTubes and everything.

[01:01:46] I can actually come around to the idea that

[01:01:49] a person could potentially like dinosaur better.

[01:01:52] I'm not that person.

[01:01:54] I like Indiana Jones far better.

[01:01:56] I like seeing things and I like the theme and all that.

[01:01:59] I was going to say you can actually see what's going on.

[01:02:00] Yeah, it's pretty dark.

[01:02:02] But I can understand if someone is in it just for jump scares,

[01:02:07] then sure, dinosaur makes sense.

[01:02:10] David's kids seemed into it.

[01:02:13] Yeah, my daughter.

[01:02:14] Based on photos.

[01:02:15] Yeah, they liked it.

[01:02:16] They liked it.

[01:02:17] It was just again...

[01:02:19] I'm glad you made the point about it is really dark and hard to see.

[01:02:23] Dark and loud.

[01:02:25] Okay, moving on to Epcot.

[01:02:26] That's what she said.

[01:02:29] Hey-oh.

[01:02:30] Okay, moving on to Epcot.

[01:02:33] Grand Fiesta Tour or Monsters Inc.

[01:02:36] Mike and Sully to the rescue.

[01:02:38] Oh, you did Grand Fiesta Tour.

[01:02:41] I did and I didn't love it.

[01:02:44] I would say I would love Monsters Inc better.

[01:02:46] What?

[01:02:47] I do like the boat ride within the restaurant plaza area was kind of different.

[01:02:55] But don't love the theming of the ride.

[01:02:58] It could be a pretty cool ride.

[01:03:00] Just the three loud ducks is just...

[01:03:02] At one point, it was a pretty cool ride.

[01:03:04] Was it?

[01:03:05] I agree.

[01:03:05] Yeah, used to be.

[01:03:06] Okay, soaring around the world or soaring over California.

[01:03:12] But I guess in general, living with the land pavilion version versus the

[01:03:20] whatever flats version, Cundor flats.

[01:03:23] Okay, it sounds like there were two questions.

[01:03:25] One was do I prefer...

[01:03:29] No, go ahead and answer that question.

[01:03:31] Everyone prefers soaring over California.

[01:03:33] I think you're right.

[01:03:33] Yes, correct.

[01:03:34] Okay, so let's say they're both soaring around the world, which they are currently,

[01:03:39] I think.

[01:03:40] Which one is better?

[01:03:41] The one at Epcot, the one at DCA?

[01:03:43] Probably Epcot, I think because it loads quicker.

[01:03:46] Oh, damn.

[01:03:48] The queue at Walt Disney at Disneyland.

[01:03:52] The queue at Disneyland is just...

[01:03:53] It's underwhelming.

[01:03:54] It could be a lot better.

[01:03:54] So boring.

[01:03:55] Yeah, she does want faster loaders.

[01:03:58] Okay.

[01:03:59] So yeah, Epcot also there's like in the queue, there's interactive game with questions and stuff.

[01:04:06] She loves trivia.

[01:04:08] Yeah.

[01:04:08] Okay, moving on to Hollywood Studios.

[01:04:11] Star Tours, which is better?

[01:04:14] They seem pretty similar.

[01:04:16] I'd say the major difference is that they're just more ride vehicles at Disney World,

[01:04:22] which I think is like a shorter wait.

[01:04:24] Also the queue is better at Disney World.

[01:04:27] How many giant vehicles were outside?

[01:04:30] Seven?

[01:04:30] I don't know.

[01:04:32] The...

[01:04:33] So I would probably the...

[01:04:35] I'd have to see it again.

[01:04:36] I don't have like a real strong impression of either one.

[01:04:39] Yeah, the rides are roughly the same.

[01:04:42] Your daughter, like when we got to the top of the lift,

[01:04:46] or the top of the ramp where she went,

[01:04:48] how many rides are there here?

[01:04:52] There's so many rooms.

[01:04:53] Yeah, exactly.

[01:04:54] So for that reason, I'll probably...

[01:04:55] I'll give this to Disney World.

[01:04:56] Okay.

[01:04:56] Did you find it odd that you were riding Star Tours

[01:05:00] like three feet away from Galaxy's Edge?

[01:05:03] It was real dumb.

[01:05:05] No, it was real great.

[01:05:07] Change the word dumb to awesome.

[01:05:10] Every ride should end in Batuu and you should walk through a tunnel

[01:05:13] or at least have an option.

[01:05:16] Okay.

[01:05:17] Moving on to the Magic Kingdom for the win.

[01:05:21] David, which castle is better?

[01:05:24] Disneyland.

[01:05:25] And why?

[01:05:27] The Disney World is too much.

[01:05:28] It's like a hat on a hat.

[01:05:29] It's too much.

[01:05:30] I heard that.

[01:05:31] I saw there's a video, people.

[01:05:33] Eric, where can they find the video of David's reaction to the castle?

[01:05:36] That's been redacted.

[01:05:40] You can find it on my phone.

[01:05:41] So if you send me a text, I will start with you.

[01:05:43] But 856ourears for David's video reaction.

[01:05:46] You could post that on the group, right?

[01:05:49] Yeah, I could do that.

[01:05:50] Oh, the Supreme Resort group.

[01:05:51] Go to facebook.com forward slash supremeresortdavidlpost.

[01:05:53] Go to facebook.fake.

[01:05:56] Also, if anyone wants to create a subreddit for us, that's probably a better place for us.

[01:06:00] Not because we're not because we're redditors by any stretch of the imagination,

[01:06:05] but because Facebook is a mess.

[01:06:10] And so are the opinions of the people on this show other than me.

[01:06:16] So David, I guess for the whole panel here, should he not post the video to our Supreme Resort group?

[01:06:23] I think he should.

[01:06:24] Big Thunder Mountain, which is better?

[01:06:26] I like the queue at Disney World more.

[01:06:29] I think I like the ride at Disneyland more.

[01:06:33] It's got the explosion scene, which it doesn't have.

[01:06:37] So I'll give it to Disneyland.

[01:06:40] You're correct.

[01:06:41] Tomorrowland Speedway.

[01:06:43] Did you write it or did Brian write it?

[01:06:45] Brian wrote it, but he said he gave his opinion.

[01:06:48] He said, if you're going to write it, you should write it.

[01:06:51] He said he gave his opinion.

[01:06:53] He said the cars are slower.

[01:06:56] It's very hot.

[01:06:58] Do it if it's a short ride, but he thought Disneyland was better.

[01:07:03] I think the cars go the same speed, but they feel slower because the ride is more boring.

[01:07:08] It's big and hot.

[01:07:11] Next question.

[01:07:12] Pirates of the Caribbean, I think we covered.

[01:07:14] Buzz Lightyear's Space Rangers spin or Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters?

[01:07:19] I like Astro Blasters.

[01:07:21] Well, okay.

[01:07:22] So a couple things.

[01:07:23] Well, actually, I like Astro Blasters.

[01:07:24] The reason is you only have one shape in Walt Disney World.

[01:07:29] And it's also fixed to the buggy.

[01:07:33] Do you like moving your hands?

[01:07:37] It's like a baby's toy.

[01:07:38] I'm trying to get some strength working by holding the gun, actually.

[01:07:44] The photo that you get is 1,000% better, though.

[01:07:47] The one at Disneyland is just like 2D.

[01:07:53] It looks terrible.

[01:07:54] Score one for on-ride photos, I guess.

[01:07:57] Score one for on-ride photos, for sure.

[01:07:59] Yeah, no.

[01:07:59] That's another episode we should do.

[01:08:01] I've already written it down.

[01:08:03] That, remember, we said it a few minutes ago.

[01:08:05] That's the next March Madness is on-ride photos.

[01:08:08] And then Dan said you have to send in your on-ride photos.

[01:08:11] And then David said you got to get one of the presidents from the Hall of Presidents.

[01:08:16] You listen back.

[01:08:17] Honda Mansion and David.

[01:08:20] It's Disneyland.

[01:08:26] I don't like the building.

[01:08:28] Dan just strangled himself with his own entrance.

[01:08:32] The outside queue is great.

[01:08:35] We got the little quiz with the five headstones that Eric turned out,

[01:08:39] which I still haven't solved yet.

[01:08:40] But I will.

[01:08:44] Now, whether you like it or not,

[01:08:47] once you get off of the stretching room and you have at Disneyland,

[01:08:50] you have the hallway that you walk down and you get to see the displays.

[01:08:53] Once you get off at Walt Disney World, you're just on.

[01:08:59] And the portraits are in the ride as opposed to in the queue.

[01:09:02] The portraits are in the ride.

[01:09:04] The moving bus are in the ride.

[01:09:06] Yep.

[01:09:07] But photos are great.

[01:09:10] Except for on-board photos.

[01:09:12] Here's something I've never really been able to

[01:09:14] quantify with people.

[01:09:17] The extra scenes at the Disney World on a Mansion,

[01:09:21] do they to you not feel more janky than the rest of the?

[01:09:29] The Ghost Riders room, there's nothing.

[01:09:32] There's no jank.

[01:09:34] And then you move into another room where the eyes blend into the wallpaper.

[01:09:41] Yeah.

[01:09:42] Some of the jankless, some of the effects are great, but it just feels like.

[01:09:50] 80% of the quality of the rest of the ride.

[01:09:54] It's like here's parts that are added on.

[01:09:57] They're a little bit more like it's just like a hair more of a carny.

[01:10:02] How many profanity?

[01:10:04] I don't know.

[01:10:04] You're the one editing it.

[01:10:05] You're editing.

[01:10:10] Not it.

[01:10:11] Okay, moving on Space Mountain.

[01:10:14] Hold on.

[01:10:14] Wait, I'm sorry.

[01:10:15] Do you know?

[01:10:16] Okay.

[01:10:17] Wait, do you are you to know?

[01:10:19] No, here's the thing.

[01:10:21] It's not that people don't immediately go like,

[01:10:24] yeah, I yeah, no, like I completely agree.

[01:10:28] You're absolutely right.

[01:10:29] But the response every time I bring this up to anybody is like,

[01:10:33] we have no idea what you're talking about.

[01:10:35] We don't see any reduction in quality.

[01:10:37] And so that I have to say, like, do you not have standards?

[01:10:41] Both rides were developed at the exact same time in the same place.

[01:10:46] I'm just saying that, okay, you know,

[01:10:51] No, I'm gonna hear what you're saying that the part of the ride is jankier.

[01:10:56] At which part?

[01:10:57] The part of the ride that isn't at Disneyland that is extra seems very much to me like,

[01:11:06] it seems very much to me, like the quality compared to the rest of the ride at Florida

[01:11:17] is slightly less.

[01:11:20] The quality of the effects like the piano player does.

[01:11:25] I know it's a visual, but it's this instead of fluid motion.

[01:11:29] Are you saying Floridians don't know that how to play a piano?

[01:11:34] I'm just saying that I see things and I'm able to recognize when the quality of a thing

[01:11:39] is not as good.

[01:11:41] That's it.

[01:11:43] I think Disneyland is better.

[01:11:44] Okay, great.

[01:11:45] So David space out which is better.

[01:11:48] This is why I can't be involved in the applet version of Haunted Mansion.

[01:11:54] I liked this might be correct.

[01:11:56] I actually think I like the Walt Disney World version.

[01:11:58] And why?

[01:12:00] The ride is I think more thrilling.

[01:12:04] You're definitely like jostled around quite a bit more versus the track at Disneyland,

[01:12:09] especially if you've written a few times it's like left, left, right, right, left.

[01:12:14] It's this kind of more predictable pattern if you will.

[01:12:17] It could also just be like the first time I've written it.

[01:12:19] I was going to say, is that because of repetition?

[01:12:21] It could also be because of repetition.

[01:12:22] And so did you like the other cars on the track seeing them?

[01:12:28] He held out a pole and he knocked somebody out of a car.

[01:12:32] I did.

[01:12:33] Well, it was a selfie stick and I just wanted a photo.

[01:12:35] I didn't know that there'd be a photo on it.

[01:12:36] But did you enjoy the contemplation time at the end?

[01:12:42] I did like the part where like, okay, this is over.

[01:12:44] And then, oh no, it's not over.

[01:12:46] It's still going on.

[01:12:50] Peter Pan's flight.

[01:12:51] I would say probably Walt Disney World mostly because we got on it pretty quick.

[01:12:59] So it's a better cue.

[01:13:01] Take that, Daniel.

[01:13:03] We caught it pretty quickly.

[01:13:07] The ride I thought was relatively the same.

[01:13:10] Maybe I'm wrong there.

[01:13:12] I think also part of it too is I resent the fact that for whatever reason that

[01:13:16] Disneyland is just such a sought after ride

[01:13:19] that it's always unless you get the rope drop, it's always like 45 minutes.

[01:13:22] Dan considers you wrong and I don't care.

[01:13:26] And I might be wrong.

[01:13:26] I've only ridden it one time at Walt Disney World.

[01:13:28] I could have been loopy by that point in time.

[01:13:30] Did you enjoy the part where you went through the Darling residence

[01:13:34] and then came out and you were in a queue in Fantasyland?

[01:13:39] The Sally family and I basically walked through the line looking at our phones

[01:13:44] because we were bored as F.

[01:13:48] Yep.

[01:13:49] So F stands for?

[01:13:51] Fantasy.

[01:13:52] Fallacy.

[01:13:53] So David, we'd already talked about Small World.

[01:13:57] You thought that the Disneyland one was better

[01:13:59] and we kind of went through that a little bit already.

[01:14:00] Yep.

[01:14:02] All right.

[01:14:02] Moving on to the Mad Tea Party.

[01:14:07] I would say that the teacups at Disneyland are superior.

[01:14:12] Because it's not covered.

[01:14:13] I like the lights.

[01:14:14] It's a different experience daytime and nighttime.

[01:14:18] And I will say that the cups spun pretty quickly.

[01:14:21] I don't know if they're faster.

[01:14:24] My son got pretty nauseous by the end, which was kind of the stated goal.

[01:14:27] He threw it everywhere.

[01:14:28] He just threw it because it was like he's like,

[01:14:30] hey dad, I want to be like you when your first time you're on an airplane.

[01:14:33] Yeah, exactly.

[01:14:34] Except that we didn't have a bag.

[01:14:35] So he just like threw up in the teacup and they just said, you know, shut down.

[01:14:38] I have a follow-up question for It's a Small World.

[01:14:40] You said that Small World overall was a much creepier experience.

[01:14:45] Did that make the Heaven Room more like clear that they were all dead?

[01:14:52] The Heaven Room was better in my opinion, based on our discussions.

[01:14:58] If you're a new listener, just to describe, we've determined on this show

[01:15:02] that the last scene in It's a Small World, in which you see many of the

[01:15:08] dolls that you've seen before is actually Heaven because they're all wearing white

[01:15:12] and they're all dead.

[01:15:13] I hadn't thought about that.

[01:15:15] I just felt like some of the dolls, some of it was like just creepier.

[01:15:20] I didn't like the indoor piece at all.

[01:15:22] That just seemed weird.

[01:15:26] Now, I will say this.

[01:15:27] If you tell me that Walt Disney World is two-thirds the length,

[01:15:31] I think it's shorter and that's one big bonus for Walt Disney World.

[01:15:36] Oh, bonus.

[01:15:37] Well, that ride is super long.

[01:15:39] It doesn't need to be that long.

[01:15:40] That's something I need to hold on to for our actual show that we do on this eventually.

[01:15:47] Did you ride the train at all?

[01:15:49] We did not.

[01:15:51] No, we did not.

[01:15:51] That's good.

[01:15:52] We did not ride it.

[01:15:53] We rode from a public transportation perspective.

[01:15:57] We took the ferry boat in.

[01:16:02] We did lift.

[01:16:05] Up Main Street.

[01:16:06] That's a new feature.

[01:16:07] We took the bus back from Magic Kingdom on day four.

[01:16:16] I think that was it.

[01:16:17] I think that was it.

[01:16:20] In the parks, yeah.

[01:16:23] We did the Skyliner.

[01:16:25] That was fun.

[01:16:26] I forgot about that one.

[01:16:27] That's one.

[01:16:27] Yeah, that was cool.

[01:16:28] I enjoyed that.

[01:16:29] That was fun.

[01:16:31] That's good.

[01:16:32] I am super happy, but still.

[01:16:36] I have another lightning round pick for you.

[01:16:40] People Mover versus a weird collection of shade that just lingers throughout Tomorrowland

[01:16:48] and gathers leaves.

[01:16:52] Now, you know I'm an avid leaf collector.

[01:16:56] So I see that bonanza.

[01:16:57] Well, you're an editor of...

[01:16:59] I know you're one of the editors of Leaf Fancy, which is a magazine that is very popular.

[01:17:05] And I appreciate it.

[01:17:06] I appreciate it.

[01:17:07] And Fancy Legal.

[01:17:08] Final, final.

[01:17:10] Listener, the reason I'm asking about the particular attractions,

[01:17:13] I have a list of everything David went on.

[01:17:15] So if you're saying how come he didn't ask about Twilight Zone Tower of Terror,

[01:17:18] etc., he didn't go on it.

[01:17:20] So the last one he went on, Jungle Cruise.

[01:17:24] David, which is better?

[01:17:29] So as I recall, the difference is that part of my perspective was when we tried to get

[01:17:36] on the ride, it was late at night and couldn't find how to get to the ride.

[01:17:39] So that was a little...

[01:17:40] That was kind of on me.

[01:17:41] That was after losing my kids.

[01:17:42] Yeah, weird.

[01:17:43] You couldn't find that giant tower.

[01:17:45] I couldn't.

[01:17:46] No, it was dark.

[01:17:47] I couldn't see it.

[01:17:47] Anyway, I'm blind as a bat anyway.

[01:17:50] I still like the original Jungle Cruise at Disneyland, I think more.

[01:17:54] Now, the one thing you have that extended room where they've got

[01:17:58] extra displays, people are shaking their heads.

[01:18:01] The tiger and the...

[01:18:04] Nodding by the way.

[01:18:05] We were nodding and shaking our heads.

[01:18:06] Okay.

[01:18:08] The ride person wasn't saying anything at all during that time.

[01:18:12] I don't know if they're prohibited from saying it.

[01:18:15] All right.

[01:18:16] Never mind.

[01:18:16] I thought it was some sort of zone ordinance.

[01:18:21] Yeah, I'm tired of shooting guns and telling jokes.

[01:18:24] Yeah, no.

[01:18:25] It makes no sense.

[01:18:26] Okay.

[01:18:27] Well, there you go.

[01:18:28] So that is David's first trip to Walt Disney World or Walt David's World.

[01:18:36] We're very happy that you came on to share your experiences.

[01:18:39] Dan and Eric, do you have any other questions for David,

[01:18:41] R.E., his trip to Disney World?

[01:18:43] Why are you glossing over David's experience on the Jungle Cruise?

[01:18:49] Is there something that you're hiding?

[01:18:53] Like I said, I prefer the original Disneyland one.

[01:18:57] I...

[01:18:58] If they were to bring back live animals,

[01:19:01] Walt Disney World I think would be the supreme ride.

[01:19:03] Bring back live animal?

[01:19:05] Well, I'm sorry.

[01:19:06] Disneyland I think was anticipated to have...

[01:19:08] At one point in time either had or was planned to have live animals.

[01:19:10] I think that was like a brief idea in the 50s.

[01:19:13] Yeah.

[01:19:14] They turned it into Kilimanjaro Safari.

[01:19:16] Right.

[01:19:16] And at Disney World too many people on the VIP tour

[01:19:19] were able to catch the animals with their bare hands.

[01:19:21] So that's the theme of this episode.

[01:19:23] Yep.

[01:19:24] That's the joke.

[01:19:25] I've decided to keep calling back to...

[01:19:27] All right.

[01:19:29] I have only one last question for David.

[01:19:33] David, if you were to go back to Walt Disney World,

[01:19:37] is there a specific travel planning service that you would use?

[01:19:41] Oh, I would use Concierge without question.

[01:19:45] Why?

[01:19:46] Well, because you guys never talked to me again if I said something.

[01:19:52] If I said Magic Touring or some other made up...

[01:19:54] I don't know any other ones.

[01:19:55] That's the other one.

[01:19:56] No, but I've used Concierge so great.

[01:19:58] So, eight, seven, six hours a year.

[01:20:00] Is that right?

[01:20:01] Eight, five, six hours a year.

[01:20:02] Damn!

[01:20:02] I've never gotten it right.

[01:20:04] Concierge.com.

[01:20:04] Hey, the Concierge folks are going to be all together as one in June.

[01:20:09] So this episode will come out before we're there.

[01:20:11] We're there June 9th through the 12th.

[01:20:15] So if you happen to be in Southern California

[01:20:17] at the Disneyland area and would like to meet up,

[01:20:20] come on down.

[01:20:21] We'll be there.

[01:20:21] Dan, Eric, and I will all be there.

[01:20:23] We'll all be at Medieval Times.

[01:20:26] It will be at Medieval Times on the 12th or the 13th.

[01:20:29] 12th, we'll be on the 12th.

[01:20:30] So if you want to go to Medieval Times and meet us there,

[01:20:32] we'll be there.

[01:20:32] Dan and I will be at Knott's on the 12th.

[01:20:34] Eric and Dan will be at the Knott's on the 13th.

[01:20:37] Eric will be on a VIP tour for the special Concierge.

[01:20:41] If you'd like to flip me off while I'm on my Plaid Tour, please.

[01:20:47] I will.

[01:20:50] Go through Concierge.

[01:20:51] Jimmy and I are on a plus-fed day though.

[01:20:52] We're going to Knott's.

[01:20:53] We're going to flip you off from Buena Park.

[01:20:57] OK, so yes, thank you.

[01:20:59] Thank you, David, for being here.

[01:21:01] Thank you, listener, for listening.

[01:21:03] Yeah, again, this is not an advertisement intentionally,

[01:21:05] but well done, Dan.

[01:21:06] If you would like to try your first trip to Disney World,

[01:21:09] call Concierge.

[01:21:11] A group of very, very professional experts.

[01:21:15] It is big as David had pointed out.

[01:21:19] There's a lot.

[01:21:19] It's a lot to take in.

[01:21:20] He had Eric, fortunately, to kind of guide him through it

[01:21:22] because he'd been there so many times.

[01:21:24] If you've never been and you don't have Eric to join you,

[01:21:27] call Concierge.

[01:21:28] We will help you get to a full touring plan

[01:21:30] and walk you through the entire resort,

[01:21:32] what to do, what not to do, that kind of thing.

[01:21:36] And perhaps our next episode will be recorded

[01:21:38] during a Concierge meeting.

[01:21:41] As a matter of fact, one of the next episodes

[01:21:44] you may hear will be from us.

[01:21:45] I have so many microphones.

[01:21:48] He has so many microphones.

[01:21:50] Also, if you like what you hear,

[01:21:52] then please rate and review our show.

[01:21:54] We have quite a few reviews nowadays

[01:21:57] and we have a couple of new ones I'd like to share.

[01:22:01] This one is from SoCalBandDirector.

[01:22:04] SoCalBandDirector says,

[01:22:06] SeaWorld update.

[01:22:08] Great info, Tom.

[01:22:10] I have been concerned about the Bayliner for years.

[01:22:14] However, I do disagree about ownership.

[01:22:17] Hardcore brace, Joe Bonavich was very educational.

[01:22:22] I just want to provide a correction to that.

[01:22:24] That was not Tom.

[01:22:25] That was Jeff butthole.

[01:22:28] Great info, Jeff butthole.

[01:22:31] Okay.

[01:22:32] And this one perhaps related.

[01:22:34] This one is from Mark, Mark, Markita.

[01:22:38] I'm going to say Markita or Marikita.

[01:22:41] M-A-R-I-K-K-I-T-A.

[01:22:43] Markita says, love this show.

[01:22:46] This review is two years in the making because I wanted to leave it

[01:22:49] once I caught up with all the episodes.

[01:22:52] Eric, Jimmy and Dan are so funny

[01:22:55] and I absolutely love listening to their banter.

[01:22:57] I love that they do so much research and share lots of new information.

[01:23:02] As an avid Disney parks goer,

[01:23:04] I enjoy that I usually learn at least one new thing each episode.

[01:23:08] I'm not a huge fan of the other theme park episodes

[01:23:11] but I'm happy just to skip them and keep going.

[01:23:15] Sorry, David.

[01:23:19] Thank you, Silkele Band Director and Markita for your reviews.

[01:23:26] Both five stars by the way I should have said.

[01:23:28] Yes, thank you.

[01:23:30] By the way, Markita.

[01:23:33] Markita.

[01:23:34] Markita, you are not alone in that opinion.

[01:23:37] However, we will probably continue to share our podcast with other theme parks.

[01:23:43] That is correct.

[01:23:45] Next episode, Meow Wolf versus Meow Wolf.

[01:23:51] And then of course we have, we already talked about Concierge.

[01:23:53] We have other shows on the network, Ears Up, which is not devolving in any way.

[01:24:00] We have David's show, Puny Pod, which is about Ant-Man only.

[01:24:07] And occasionally they'll talk about other MCU podcasts.

[01:24:10] How is Puny Pod going, David?

[01:24:12] Pretty well actually.

[01:24:13] I think we're starting to hit our stride.

[01:24:15] I've listened to some of the early episodes and this is not easy what you all do.

[01:24:21] Well, some of our earlys are not great.

[01:24:24] No, we just finished with Guardians of the Galaxy 2.

[01:24:27] We are watching Spider-Man Homecoming.

[01:24:30] So I'm doing my regular level of over preparation for that.

[01:24:35] And then we're going to get together tomorrow or Monday and record.

[01:24:40] He just came back from the parks.

[01:24:42] He went on a Disney cruise and so we're going to share some stories.

[01:24:46] Ryan was there for quite a while.

[01:24:48] Yeah.

[01:24:49] He'll be our next guest.

[01:24:52] Okay, so in the meantime, oh also wait, sorry, the Scraping the Vault.

[01:24:56] The Scraping the Vault people are back.

[01:24:59] The Vaultineers are back.

[01:25:02] I think we'll slowly uncover what's been going on with us.

[01:25:06] Yeah.

[01:25:07] Anyway, we're back.

[01:25:09] The Vaultineers are back and we just finished and are about to release Fox and the Hound 2.

[01:25:19] And Eric, by the way, I have to say I listened to the last episode.

[01:25:22] It was part two of the Run Disney.

[01:25:25] The way you phrased Scraping the Vault in everything has been leading up to

[01:25:30] Cinderella 3 Twisted Time was just fantastic.

[01:25:34] I can't wait until this damn movie.

[01:25:38] I know.

[01:25:40] I probably saw it 25 years ago in Dan's bedroom drinking neti ice or something.

[01:25:47] I just remember loving it.

[01:25:48] Probably Milwaukee's past.

[01:25:49] I think that's what I was into at the time.

[01:25:52] Well, and also I think it was 2007.

[01:25:55] Also speaking of roping them in little fillies, if you want to listen to Eric

[01:25:58] and I spread some madness about David Bowie.

[01:26:01] Bowie's Planning is the podcast.

[01:26:03] And the Star Wars show, the Bantha Milk show.

[01:26:08] They're getting excited about Acolyte and they're the only ones.

[01:26:15] All right.

[01:26:15] So rate and review, et cetera, et cetera, other shows, et cetera, et cetera.

[01:26:19] 856R ears.

[01:26:20] And until next time.

[01:26:22] Well, Ryan Airy's dog is excited about it, right?

[01:26:26] Ryan Airy, he's great.

[01:26:27] I just don't.

[01:26:27] Ryan Airy's dog is so cute.

[01:26:29] What's going to happen when anyway?

[01:26:30] The next time we could do each other and court is adjourned.

[01:26:36] You're the safe reader.

[01:27:05] I mean, everybody dies, Dan.

[01:27:07] Death and taxes.

[01:27:08] I'm just saying.

[01:27:11] So few people believe me when I tell them that you're actually the darker one.

[01:27:16] Oh, no.

[01:27:18] I have been in the sun.

[01:27:20] Yeah.

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