The Case of the Philharmagics: Magic Kingdom versus Disney California Adventure

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[00:04:03] So hey guys exciting news our friend friend of the show former guest Julie Tremaine

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[00:04:30] We discuss and explore Disneyland and Disney World decide which is better

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[00:04:46] haunted mansion is going to change at Disneyland and Disney World so we're going to have to

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[00:04:57] Hey, don't listen to it first.

[00:04:59] Don't listen to it first yeah wait a couple to understand we used to have a different host

[00:05:03] as well so if you feel like Eric's why I'm here.

[00:05:07] Yeah that's right.

[00:05:10] Was that yeah okay anyway so and another thing we need to relitigate.

[00:05:16] Space Mountain.

[00:05:19] Well maybe I disagree with the but that's just because I wasn't there.

[00:05:23] Oh Tiki Room.

[00:05:24] Yeah my first episode that's right.

[00:05:26] Well that's fortunately for you Eric because today's topic is fill our magic and we don't

[00:05:33] feel like there's a tremendous amount of history and robustness of the attraction so we're

[00:05:38] going to do a two for today we're going to do the Tiki Room.

[00:05:40] I got the busness over here.

[00:05:42] Okay well welcome congratulations we're going to do the Tiki Room only after we do fill

[00:05:47] our magic today then we'll throw in the Tiki Room it feels like.

[00:05:51] I still have my notes from when we decided to not talk about it so we can we can do that.

[00:05:55] Right so Dan and I unbeknownst to Eric decided we just could not justify making an

[00:06:01] argument for Disney World's Tiki Room in any form and so without telling Eric we just

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[00:06:08] Way to welcome a new guest.

[00:06:09] He was new to the show and we just didn't tell him that we were not really going to argue about it

[00:06:15] and we talked about it a little bit but we decided Disneyland was better before we even

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[00:07:57] They booked a trip for two weeks from now so they are going the week after Thanksgiving 2023.

[00:08:05] I thought I was pushing it by booking a month from now.

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[00:08:23] Nothing was locked out everything was available so nice.

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[00:08:30] Too bad that Disney while Disney World doesn't have the discount on kids tickets right?

[00:08:35] No Disneyland.

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[00:08:41] January and I have not done my concierge duty.

[00:08:47] Anyway all right so some news that downtown Disney stuff is opening Dan.

[00:08:51] Yeah I mean nothing you know world shattering but they've been working on I don't know

[00:08:58] Jimmy do you remember they had that weird like kind of like pop-up stage by what used to be.

[00:09:04] ESPN zone and yeah the rainforest cafe.

[00:09:08] Right they built an actual stage that looks like it's like theme it looks like like Palm Springs

[00:09:15] kind of decor mid-century modern very white by that I mean in color however I mean the client

[00:09:23] will probably also very white let's be honest.

[00:09:31] We shouldn't express so much joy about whiteness.

[00:09:35] We have to prove how not woke we are so and that actually they finished it they opened it

[00:09:43] they have bands they had bands playing there starting like day one it looks really nice.

[00:09:50] There's a grassy area by grass I mean Astroturf but David from Fresh Bakes says it's good Astroturf

[00:09:58] so that means that it tasted very delicious to him he's Park Howe and I think

[00:10:06] I don't know for some reason I was just very excited because it's been

[00:10:10] years since they've had like an actual lawn sort of area that you can just lounge

[00:10:16] and that's pretty cool I used to take naps on the lawn at Disney World so I'm looking forward

[00:10:23] to doing that again not Disney World Disney Hotel.

[00:10:26] Words very nice anything else opening I got another Walt Funko pop so great.

[00:10:36] He's very cute he's leaving the camera.

[00:10:38] The DBC tower is open and the new restaurant at Pixar Hotel that's right that opened

[00:10:48] and it's breakfast all day they have breakfast all day as an option which is something that I've

[00:10:52] wanted in the parks for a very long time because breakfast is my favorite kind of food.

[00:10:57] All right well that's great also the Adventureland tree house and we'll have

[00:11:02] an episode about that that's another thing we got to relitigate right because Swiss family tree house

[00:11:06] I'm going to be on that thing so many times on Monday.

[00:11:09] Yeah I'm excited all right well let's move on to the show the main topic for that what I'm calling

[00:11:16] Tiki Room for two because we've got two subjects but we're going to start with the

[00:11:22] case of Mickey's Philharmagic original V Shoehorn it's my working title.

[00:11:29] Mm-hmm that's fair yeah so what happens here is that because the Philharmagic at the Magic Kingdom

[00:11:37] went first Eric will be making his opening argument followed by Dan where Mickey's Philharmagic was

[00:11:44] shoehorned into the space where Muppets Muppet Vision 3D used to be so he's going to go second

[00:11:50] no one regrets that decision and we're going to start with an overview of what is Mickey's

[00:11:55] Philharmagic Eric please proceed.

[00:11:59] Mickey's Philharmagic is a it's a mostly 3D film the film itself is all 3D but there are other

[00:12:10] elements that go on in the theater it's a 4D experience but not quite as intense as some of

[00:12:14] the other 4D experiences you might have had out there it's a family attraction that features

[00:12:19] all of your favorite friends and many of your favorite songs from movies especially if you

[00:12:24] like the six songs that are in it it's in Fantasyland at the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World and it

[00:12:32] is presented in a space that was crafted specifically for this feature.

[00:12:39] It just had a curiosity in the history portion of the episode are you going to talk about what

[00:12:43] used to be there? I will definitely talk about what used to be there. Other attractions that were

[00:12:50] crafted for that were the space I mean the space itself was open on day one of

[00:12:56] of the Magic Kingdom so specifically crafted for that experience and then some other things were

[00:13:02] kind of shoehorned in for a little bit until we had the the powerhouse that is Mickey's Philharmagic

[00:13:07] today. Great there we go all right sounds good oh wait we didn't get the sound so if

[00:13:15] Eric says something that I like about his version of Philharmagic you will hear this sound.

[00:13:20] Hello. That's Michael Eisner if Dan says something I like about the other version the newer version

[00:13:29] are you will hear this sound. Hi I'm Hewell Houser. You're gonna hear it twice every time.

[00:13:34] Oh that's great all right so Dan go ahead and tell us about what is Mickey's Philharmagic at

[00:13:41] Disney's California Adventure? It is Mickey's Philharmagic just like Eric said

[00:13:49] it is not in Phansyland it is Disney's California Adventure. It also has three dimensions and a screen.

[00:14:00] And a fourth dimension do they spit on you? The dog does sneeze on you yes. Okay and

[00:14:10] there's a hot dog stand right outside that you can get an award weiner

[00:14:18] to enjoy while you watch the show. You can't eat in that theater Dan. I don't think anyone would notice

[00:14:29] I think they'd just be happy that you were there. They start passing out mustard packets.

[00:14:35] Also mine is sometimes closed if they're not busy. Okay great so it's a hold on I'll save

[00:14:44] that argument for later. My cost efficiency argument. Oh boy. All right well let's get it back. That was

[00:14:53] prepared for cost efficiency. You don't have to be. Okay so then let's move on to the history of

[00:15:02] Mickey's Philharmagic at the Magic Kingdom go ahead and say the word magic a lot. All right

[00:15:07] magic the magical beginning of the Mickey's Philharmagic yes Dan

[00:15:15] what were you about to quip?

[00:15:19] Wow you just know what if we just every once in a while we can call it Mickey's Philhar sorcery.

[00:15:28] That rolls right off the tongue.

[00:15:30] Sure does.

[00:15:38] Mickey's Philhar sorcery. Yeah I'm not gonna say that anymore.

[00:15:44] Began as the Mickey Mouse review on the opening day of Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom on October

[00:15:51] 1st 1971 much of this content I should say that I'm going to go through for this comes from

[00:15:58] Mike Lee and his excellent repository of ancient Walt Disney World history wide in your world. Look

[00:16:04] it up it's one of the original fan sites out there for Walt Disney World. Tons of great information

[00:16:11] from somebody who was actually there but yes Walt at some point in history wanted to give the

[00:16:18] enchanted tiki room treatment to all of the Disney characters and make a theater show where

[00:16:22] some of the characters would even be sitting in the audience heckling what was going on on stage.

[00:16:29] I've seen this particular quote a few times I have in mind a theater and the figures will not

[00:16:34] only put on the show but be sitting in the boxes with the visitors heckling I don't know just when

[00:16:38] I'll do that. That was an excellent impersonation of Barack Obama. I was gonna say is Obama writing

[00:16:44] this.

[00:16:46] Well I am fast enough. Speaking of the tiki room we I'm really looking forward to the end of

[00:16:54] this episode. Yeah back to the tiki room for sure just saying the pre show of this particular

[00:17:01] traction because of course yeah the Imagineers did pull this together for the opening of

[00:17:06] the Magic Kingdom they wanted to bring in that these classic characters just like Walt

[00:17:13] had talked about that were so missing from Disneyland and yeah so they pulled this together

[00:17:20] and created a show that started out where we told the story of Mickey Mouse in film as part

[00:17:27] of the pre-show so while everybody's loading in to the theater you're standing back you're

[00:17:32] watching this this history of animation and then you'd head into the main theater itself

[00:17:38] which was a gigantic theater it contained the Mickey Mouse review contains 73 Disney characters

[00:17:45] putting on a show conducted by the mouse himself I say 73 characters because there were 81 animatronics

[00:17:53] because some of the characters were duplicated around the stage as we'll get to briefly

[00:17:58] I'm not going to go into super huge detail here I'll kind of cover the basics

[00:18:02] if you really want a super in-depth look go to Mike Lee's website and read that it's he's got a lot

[00:18:13] but yeah let's see so Mickey was the Mickey animatronic at the front he was the conductor

[00:18:19] of the orchestra and he was as complicated as Lincoln which was even more impressive because

[00:18:25] he was half the size of Lincoln he was 42 inches tall this this robotic Mickey

[00:18:32] the orchestra so as the show starts out the the curtain lifts an orchestra containing 23 classic

[00:18:38] characters were revealed some of these characters were new classics they would be classics to us

[00:18:44] because we're talking mini goofy daisy pluto but also Dumbo Winnie the Pooh and a six foot tall

[00:18:50] belu so we're talking we've got some very small characters Timothy mouse was only a foot tall

[00:18:56] and we have belu the bear from the jungle book who was six feet tall a big big range of characters

[00:19:02] here playing instruments pretty great these are all animatronics these are all animatronics

[00:19:08] there were some projection effects at certain portions but 81 animatronic characters

[00:19:16] um throughout the the the show uh the six the stage was 86 feet wide and it had curtains off to

[00:19:24] the side kind of like um kind of like carousel of progress that would open up and show different

[00:19:28] vignettes as you went through so there was this no white scene there was an Alice in Wonderland

[00:19:32] scene the three Caballero scene was very elaborate because as the song progressed

[00:19:38] Panchita would fire his pistols and the the stage would go dark and he'd fire his

[00:19:42] pistols and then down would appear at a different part of the stage dancing

[00:19:47] so the spotlight would pop up at various places around the stage and he was dancing and every

[00:19:51] time it would be punctuated with Panchito shooting a gun Walt Disney that was the scene

[00:19:57] transitioned that was well that was part of the the song the scene transitions were usually

[00:20:02] the curtains would raise or lower and things would move around this is just one particular

[00:20:06] song yeah okay yeah and some of it was just staged because it was such a large place you could rage

[00:20:13] that you know raise certain portions of the curtain I just want to point out that if if this if we

[00:20:18] were in an alternate universe where California adventure gets the original version of uh

[00:20:26] Mickey's Philhar sorcery um this is the part where I would joke about Eric presenting that

[00:20:34] the thing it replaced was actually better however the house I'm in currently in this argument

[00:20:44] made of glass made of the most fragile glass you've ever encountered Faberge a house like it's

[00:20:50] let's like breakaway glass that's made out of it's designed for actors to smash through if they

[00:20:55] walk that's right you could go if it was a bottle you could like smush it with your hands and

[00:21:02] yeah so Eric the so far the this show you're talking about with all the animatronics that's

[00:21:09] what the park opened with yeah wow yeah a massive animatronic explosion uh further scenes Cinderella

[00:21:18] song of the south and then at the end everybody sings and dances and then Mickey alone sings the

[00:21:25] Mickey Mouse club song with the audience the curtains drop it's been an amazing nine minutes

[00:21:31] and 30 seconds somehow uh so this started out as an e-ticket on day one but somehow it didn't

[00:21:39] really connect with audiences and was eventually reduced to a d ticket in 1973 I had notes about

[00:21:46] the e-ticket conversation do we have that now you didn't talk about it no should we have that

[00:21:51] conversation or should we wait well I mean let's let's finish up the tiki room first well

[00:21:55] let's do e-ticket conversation between just a breakup between Philharmonic okay okay all right

[00:22:01] cool okay keep going history all right uh yeah yeah go to widenyourworld.blogspot.com

[00:22:09] and look up there's a full a full list of characters just a massive group it's really

[00:22:16] an impressive attraction but but yeah it didn't connect with audiences at the time

[00:22:21] uh the attraction closed on September 14th 1980 now what was going on at the time Tokyo Disneyland

[00:22:30] was being designed and executives from uh from the Oriental Land Company came to Disneyland

[00:22:37] and then to Walt Disney World and that's what it's actually called he's not being

[00:22:41] he's not just describing a company that he doesn't know the name of right it was a bunch of no

[00:22:46] that yeah that's the name of the company Oriental Land it's still the name of the company it is

[00:22:51] and every time every time I hear it or say it like that something in my brain is like

[00:22:58] it's like I was I was watching a show that will shall be remain nameless it was news related

[00:23:03] and they were talking about Indians they were referring to Native Americans

[00:23:08] and it's just something odd like we know that they weren't Indians they never were Indians

[00:23:15] and we still call them Indians now it feels like it's okay to say cowboys and Indians because

[00:23:19] it's kind of like a brand right but something about talking about Native Americans today

[00:23:24] as Indians just feels like Oriental Land Company you know it's like something just feels off

[00:23:29] by the way but I mean it is whatever I mean anyway continue sorry yes good maybe that's

[00:23:35] how we're woke by the way we're I did do a whole segment once on the cigar store Indian

[00:23:43] and after I mean that's what he was called yeah but time's changed keep going time's change and

[00:23:49] we're cutting into tiki time uh let's see uh Tokyo Disneyland underway so execs came out to look at

[00:23:56] the place they really liked the Mickey Mouse review and they wanted Disney to recreate the attraction

[00:24:03] at Tokyo Disneyland well since uh ticket sales were flagging for the attraction and it wasn't

[00:24:09] being filled up this this massive theater they said you know what it would be cheaper to just

[00:24:17] disassemble the thing and ship it to Japan than to recreate 81 animatronic figures and so they did

[00:24:24] wow a transplant from Magic Kingdom in Florida to Japan right and so the attraction was ported

[00:24:31] over to Japan where it played for 26 years in Tokyo Disneyland until it was replaced by

[00:24:39] Mickey's Philharmagic oh and some of the figures came back the original modes for the seven dwarfs

[00:24:49] and Snow White were reused in Disney in Walt Disney World for the seven dwarfs mine train

[00:24:55] and for the the uh Snow White's yeah yeah seven dwarfs mine train um and the original animatronic

[00:25:03] figures were reused in the three Caballeros ride in Epcot's Mexico pavilion that's why the

[00:25:12] heads keep falling off yeah that's really cool so those animatronics are like from 1971 yeah

[00:25:19] that is why the head keeps falling off sometimes they're cardboard cutouts that's right with

[00:25:26] with it some brawer on top right uh well yeah so after that closed and then uh and went away

[00:25:35] the this is a major part of fantasy land as you walk past the castle it's on your left

[00:25:41] it's a few doors down from the castle itself and it's it's prime time real estate and it's been

[00:25:47] closed for a few months well Dan are there any hot dog stands on the way

[00:25:52] hmm it's a good question hmm i'm gonna say no no i don't think there are yeah all right the food

[00:26:00] comes a little bit further in at fryer's nook which is on the right of the hot dogs as it kind of

[00:26:05] opens up they probably no they have fries i think they have hot dogs at fryer's nook all right

[00:26:10] i'll reserve judgment i generally don't go there i'll have to look it up while dance talking

[00:26:15] you can also go to minokio's village house oh no

[00:26:21] ooh when are we gonna do the village house oh god oh that's a good one

[00:26:25] because it's the it well it's not called village house anymore but it used to be

[00:26:29] and we could do village house versus roses tavern or red roses versus minokio's village house i like it

[00:26:34] it's bells grotto what is it bell's magical it's red rose tavern

[00:26:39] it they're a good uh they're a good sandwich no they don't ever mind good breakfast sandwich i thought

[00:26:45] it was a good no here's the i thought it was gonna be a good breakfast sandwich when i ordered it

[00:26:49] and then when i take when i ate it i was like not so good our friend from knots berry farm youtube

[00:26:55] channel that we did that episode with yeah um he said that was the best pizza in the park

[00:27:00] that wouldn't surprise me because the only other pizza in the park is the alien pizza

[00:27:05] port planet port that's a good point all right all right tiki time people tiki yeah sorry sorry

[00:27:10] sorry stay stay focused here all right what happened next uh what happened next was magic journeys

[00:27:16] december 15 1987 magic journeys opened up in the same theater space magic journeys was

[00:27:22] an attraction that opened with apcot center in 1982 on opening day next to journey into

[00:27:31] imagination it's that theater next to it that um sometimes does picks our shorts and generally

[00:27:37] doesn't do a whole lot of anything these days is it a 3d show it is definitely a 3d show predecessor

[00:27:43] of aniai shung the audience well in captain eo we're in captain eo yeah yeah by the way it was

[00:27:49] i'd like to award a point eric to mckiesville har magic because of the animatronic characters

[00:27:56] alive and well at apcot just the reuse of the animatronics i think that was a really cool point

[00:28:02] so all right hello thank you well so they figured magic journey is magic kingdom perfect fit

[00:28:08] yeah i mean they put a lot of work into that into that uh feature to get it ready on day one

[00:28:13] because they sure didn't have journey into imagination ready on day one and kodak wanted

[00:28:19] something to be ready uh so the the film is the trippiest thing i've seen it multiple times in my youth

[00:28:28] jimmy dan do you remember seeing magic journeys because it did play in disney land for a while

[00:28:32] no i never saw the 3d version i have tried to watch the youtube version and it's almost unwatchable

[00:28:39] but i bet yeah you definitely get a feel for like oh oh it's so weird it's this they say it's

[00:28:48] a journey through the eyes of a child but it's this child who is like playing with friends and

[00:28:54] then blows all the petals off of a a dandelion all the little seeds off of a dandelion they fly at

[00:29:01] you then they become stars and then they everything like morphs into something else

[00:29:06] and uh yeah everything's a very 3d thing like kids are flying a kite well that kites gonna

[00:29:12] fly at your face and then there are kids on a carousel they're reaching for the brass ring

[00:29:17] i remember that brass ring so clearly like some of these things then then they're looking at a cat

[00:29:25] the cat becomes thus finks in egypt and then it turns into um it turns into a lion at a circus

[00:29:33] and then you're looking at trapeze artists and the whole thing ends where this this creepy

[00:29:38] magician at the circus is is doing tricks and then it kind of rewinds and turns back into

[00:29:45] the dandelion unblowing itself and then the movie ends it's trippy as all get out it's a very

[00:29:52] late 70s thing magic kingdom yeah and it's in the magic kingdom and i'm sure i saw it at apcot and

[00:29:59] at the magic kingdom i i yeah it's yeah it's so it's so weird um and i i love that i still

[00:30:07] remember it so clearly so when did so the show goes to tokyo the mickey animatronic show uh

[00:30:15] they replaced that with magic journeys in 1980 the so 19 it yeah it's it's a long period of time

[00:30:26] but it opened at apcot in 82 uh huh so was it playing it seven is when it opened in the

[00:30:32] magic kingdom oh after it went away so is this this building's empty from 80 to 87

[00:30:39] yeah okay so then it goes to apcot and it's there until 87 86 presumably because it was

[00:30:46] replaced by honey i shrunk the audience no no no it started at apcot day one in 1982

[00:30:52] oh movie well i but why did it go to magic kingdom is my question it went to magic

[00:30:55] kingdom because captain eo was coming captain eo excuse me thank you sorry that's why

[00:31:00] yeah got booted for that uh let's see yeah um so then magic journeys closed December 1st 1993

[00:31:12] several months later the legend of the lion king comes in July 8th 1994 i have never seen this

[00:31:20] i have only read about it i haven't looked tried to watch a video of it or anything

[00:31:25] giant puppets like mufasa is six feet tall and seven feet long which i'm assuming they moved

[00:31:31] over to the animal kingdom one would assume that was a different show i think i did see this show

[00:31:39] can you hear me yeah okay i can't see my thing um i think i did see the lion king show when i went

[00:31:47] in like 95 96 yeah that'd be correct eric yeah yeah that would be in there and i remember um

[00:31:57] i think it was it must have been only my first day visiting the magic kingdom like ever

[00:32:04] and i remember having this feeling of oh this is a show where they kind of like show bits of the

[00:32:13] movie and then the puppets will do the thing that's on the screen in puppet form in front of the screen

[00:32:21] and then they will try to get the audience to clap along to songs it was like it was a very it was

[00:32:29] it was a very interesting experience because it was the first time that i felt like oh so this

[00:32:37] is one of the things that's different about disney world compared to disneyland because this would

[00:32:42] not fly at disneyland but a disney world it's like it's it's for the kids and it's like it makes sense

[00:32:49] that it's you have all the space you're like well what if we did like a truckie cheese show basically

[00:32:54] like and yeah that it was i don't want to say it was bad it was just and people seemed to enjoy

[00:33:02] it it was just coming at it from my point of view it was like why isn't this like uh basically

[00:33:10] like a indoor nighttime spectacular version of the of the lion king you know what i mean like i

[00:33:17] would i expected it to be plus up plus up plus up to the point where you're like oh so that's why

[00:33:23] they built it it has to exist someone had this amazing idea of how to like really reimagine

[00:33:29] this story and but it's just like no it's just the story it's everything you've seen before

[00:33:35] but puppets it's with puppets it was on a bigger stage 125 feet long well so they've they've redone

[00:33:43] the theater to do this wow okay so you don't feel like it was just a temporary thing until

[00:33:49] they put in something they were planning it lasted eight years wow so they were not planning

[00:33:55] philhar magic uh yeah so then it closed down for philhar magic right closed february 23rd 2002

[00:34:05] philhar magic opens october 8th 2003 uh well and then by that time we i mean if i remember correctly

[00:34:16] lion king was kind of it was one of the first properties where disney really kind of possibly

[00:34:28] over milked that cow to prove another joke but you know like uh they in the parades and it was

[00:34:35] yeah they kind of they kind of frozen it a little bit and i and they hadn't at that point really

[00:34:40] like figured out how to do it in a way that didn't give people property fatigue well at the time it

[00:34:48] was the highest grossing disney cartoon of all time right right and at the time i mean that was

[00:34:55] that was right after that was when they were like hey we're actually hitting gold here let's

[00:35:00] let's dig dig dig so i mean i understand it but it was also i think the first time at least

[00:35:06] in my memory that it was just like okay guys um i can't possibly see another lion king thing

[00:35:13] please stop for the listeners when dan said dig dig dig he was not speaking of diamonds

[00:35:18] which would be more appropriate he was talking about gold anyway i wasn't talking about in our

[00:35:24] mind where a million diamonds shine that's right well my wife just came home there will be dogs

[00:35:32] barking great uh yeah so production of the the attraction philhar magic george scribner was

[00:35:39] the director he directed oliver and company and the prince and the popper short that's where mickey

[00:35:44] and mickey trade places much like the movie trading places i was trying to i was i was trying to

[00:35:54] think of something else and then in my mind vacated so there we go we'll just go with the

[00:35:58] regular answer instead of the answer that would have been funnier sorry uh but george scribner was

[00:36:06] also an animator on the smurfs you could have said freaky friday and and then remember that there's

[00:36:12] a whole time in like the 80s 90s where there's a bunch of movies body swapping body swaps you know

[00:36:17] like that somebody it was like judge rinne hole did one then they remade freaky friday there was a whole

[00:36:24] thing right and uh jason bateman just did one on netflix called the change up there we go pretend i

[00:36:29] said the change up all right edit that out i'm the editor i won't do that okay hot girl was hot

[00:36:36] girl one of them no that or that's just that's just a hot chick hot yeah that that was uh yeah

[00:36:43] that was rob schneider swapping with a hot chick right all right um but here's where i'm going

[00:36:50] with this george scribner was also one of the animators on a chipmunk christmas stay tuned for

[00:36:57] scraping the vault special christmas episode a chipmunk christmas from 1983 i'd love this man

[00:37:04] there we go so now we're done dan go for it okay uh so um mickey's phil her met it's phil

[00:37:16] har sorcery magic uh is also a 40 attraction film uh and it was also directed by george

[00:37:24] scribner because it's the same uh it used to be a little something called muppet vision 3d

[00:37:34] we will probably talk about muppet vision 3d at some point in depth um on some or some some

[00:37:41] podcast is going to need to cover that i think um because it doesn't exist on both coasts but it

[00:37:47] does still exist in florida true and it's a beloved attraction uh just as it was in

[00:37:53] disti's california adventure um it featured all the muppets doing all their whimsical things

[00:38:00] in 3d and it was a good show and they closed it and that was the last thing that jim hanson worked on

[00:38:09] yeah but you know they don't really know how to deal with the muppets at all in the parks

[00:38:15] even though it seems to be the most obvious thing because animatronics are just giant

[00:38:21] puppets with robots inside of them um but for some reason they just they're like no we can't do this

[00:38:31] i suspect it's because the deeper you dig into jim hanson lore the more it's clear that he's just

[00:38:37] a giant hippie and has all these values that disney's like i don't know what is this do we

[00:38:44] address that um i don't know that's speculation on my part but anyway um it was introduced to disney

[00:38:52] world in 2003 just as eric said um and then they said hey let's put it in california adventure

[00:39:02] and i'm sure some imagineer or some construction worker or someone said but this is several people's

[00:39:10] literal favorite thing and one of the reasons and some people come here only for this and probably

[00:39:17] paul pressler was like lalalalala i can't hear you because there's currently people uh that are in

[00:39:27] grave danger over at the other park because we won't fix anything so they got rid of it and they

[00:39:35] they opened uh philhar magic and they said you know should we should we make it a giant screen with

[00:39:45] all of the effects and everything in florida and they're like nah why should we do that this is so

[00:39:52] much better and it's so much more cost effective speaking of cost effectiveness sometimes this

[00:39:58] attraction isn't open during the slower periods luckily those those grades don't exist anymore

[00:40:06] um it opened uh on april 26 2019 as part of the get your ears on mickey and mini celebration

[00:40:16] and then bob eiger took over and it got better but this show still exists wait no bob eiger was

[00:40:23] before that damn you bob eiger new bob um i have a couple of things to say yes thing number one

[00:40:33] for our listener uh there's been more than one chipmunk christmas special the one i'm referring

[00:40:39] to was 1981 and it was written by uh not george whatever he was an animator he wasn't the

[00:40:48] animator okay number in which case i take it back uh three points to disney mickeys philhar magic

[00:40:54] because of the history that it had which is muppet vision 3d arguably the best 3d show ever

[00:41:05] and a negative three points for replacing muppet vision 3d

[00:41:10] halzer halzer that's where he was going with it yep

[00:41:17] all right excellent uh so i have some before we get to the show itself in the queue

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[00:44:20] let's go to uh the the queue for make you feel our magic at magic kingdom okay thank you the x

[00:44:38] thanks jimmy for at least reading through the entire copy so we can at least get paid for this

[00:44:42] last episode that's right i will be the last you will hear of single writers ladies look if i

[00:44:47] wasn't going to disney man in a couple days i would refuse the money but i mean yeah i knew

[00:44:52] my churros that's that's like a whole chimichanga yeah it is all right tell us about the queue

[00:45:04] eric at the magic kingdoms fill our magic i'd love to uh the exterior of this building is

[00:45:11] similar to the rest of fantasy land where uh you you have some switchbacks that go underneath

[00:45:17] a canopy so you've got shade as the queue begins you have a a portion that kind of juts

[00:45:23] out into the walkway with philhar magic in in script that reads a subtitle underneath

[00:45:29] a concert with character there's also a golden crown on a red spire up ahead also listener

[00:45:37] if you are in the switchbacks for mickey's philhar magic outside but covered probably not a good

[00:45:42] day to be at the park yeah yeah because the lines generally aren't very long i would say before

[00:45:49] leaving check the app and see how uh inside your imagination starring figment is yes look look at

[00:45:58] how long that line is yeah that would be indicative similar go to universal state there you go

[00:46:06] inside you go through more switchbacks in a in a heavily air conditioned hallway

[00:46:12] and you see some movie posters including uh i paliachi performed by willy the whale from 1946's

[00:46:20] make make mine music you have hades sings torch songs ariel's choral group a must see sea

[00:46:32] genie sings the blues and an evening with weezy from toy story two so fun posters as you

[00:46:39] walk through again you won't have a whole lot of time to hang out and look at them because

[00:46:43] you're probably moving pretty quick into the pre show area where it's a large tiered area where

[00:46:50] you get to hang out and wait in that glorious air conditioning and listen to some disney music

[00:46:58] while you're standing there some orchestral disney music and there you go once you once you

[00:47:05] once the attraction opens the doors open ahead of you and you find your seat inside the spacious

[00:47:10] theater there's a giant stage in front of you point your body toward that when you sit down in

[00:47:15] the chair and you're ready for the show as an example right now the figment right is 15 minutes

[00:47:24] wait that's not a good sign yeah isn't 15 kind of the default do they go down to five five is

[00:47:30] the default oh isn't i think they might have put 15 because that's how long the show is

[00:47:38] make you spill her magic currently at 15 that would make your problem because it is yeah

[00:47:43] yeah that's a good point because you can't wait five minutes if the show just started

[00:47:47] I think they started doing that recently let me check uh dca hold on um all right so that is

[00:47:55] I really want to celebrate I'm a sucker for a pun very much like the in the mickey and minnie's

[00:48:01] runaway railway uh award winners hello fair not the queue um so that is true that's fair um

[00:48:11] anyway I would kind of want to celebrate those posters but I got to hear what dan has to say

[00:48:16] about his cue um guests encounter posters advertising past productions and performers

[00:48:26] in the concert hall um and the theater lobby guests pick up opera glasses which are 3d glasses

[00:48:33] and we hear orchestral music coming from uh at disney animated films it's so it's pretty pretty

[00:48:38] darn similar is it they've got the same posters hmm it possibly less if i'm being completely against

[00:48:46] yeah um it's there is there is at least a oh there's a sign up above that says what the thing is

[00:48:54] that's cool it's got Mickey Mouse on it uh that's true in it's an l.a. screen so if they want to

[00:49:00] put the dodger game on they can't um well I don't know help me out here so

[00:49:11] because we decided a long time ago that just because it's bigger that's not disney right right

[00:49:16] no it's okay well it's just a little bit uh I think I've mentioned before that they have

[00:49:30] who wants to be a millionaire play at that old right building uh where they currently are

[00:49:37] housing regis philbin's frozen corpse uh wait sorry uh too soon uh

[00:49:45] it could have yes and it's a it's a thumbs up they could have if they wanted to

[00:49:53] built the full version of mickey's fill our magic in that building I suspect

[00:50:00] because it's much built much bigger um and they did not

[00:50:06] instead they were like hey what if we get rid of muppet vision 3d and put in

[00:50:15] fill our magic and then yeah one of those same imaginers and maybe that same construction

[00:50:20] worker was like oh great you're gonna bring in all the in theater effects and the giant screen

[00:50:28] and you're gonna do that really cool slow reveal that people are like

[00:50:32] wowed by at just the right time to the show itself yet and then and they were like no

[00:50:41] we're not and then I need to pause for just a second I don't know what the dogs are doing

[00:50:46] you can talk amongst yourselves if you like I'll just keep going so those same people were like

[00:50:53] okay so you're probably gonna change what the theater looks like so when people go inside

[00:50:57] they won't get sad that the muppet vision show isn't here anymore and they were like

[00:51:03] no we didn't really I mean we thought about it but then we saw that it's gonna cost more than

[00:51:07] like five dollars so we were like no we don't we have a gift card for Home Depot and it's

[00:51:14] it's not that amount so thank you um Dan Eric's gone now um can we talk about how lit up he got

[00:51:23] when I was reading the copy for single writers and then he got on his phone

[00:51:28] and he like downloaded the app immediately do you notice that well to be fair we don't know what

[00:51:35] he was doing why was he smiling so much when I said ss maybe he thought it was like

[00:51:41] a star wars reference or start like I don't know I noticed he covered up his forehead when

[00:51:46] I said the thing about the swastika tattoo do you think he wrote the copy I don't know I mean it would

[00:51:54] be it would certainly be surprising it'd be it'd be quite the twist it turned out to be like

[00:52:01] not only the most unhinged out of the three of us but like that unhinged yeah interesting um

[00:52:09] anyway so I think the point is that the queue I don't I don't want to give it I guess I'm

[00:52:14] gonna have to just punish California Adventure for replacing them up it's again I mean it seems I

[00:52:22] guess the point is that Magic Kingdom seems a lot more intentional and it feels like a theater yeah

[00:52:27] you know that you're walking into in a lobby and whatever it feels very much like how the great

[00:52:32] movie ride used to feel you know at the switchbacks inside and you saw like garments from old

[00:52:37] you know gone with the wind or whatever felt very similar like going into a theater like that

[00:52:42] to be fair they did remove elements of the Muppet Vision waiting area to make the fill our magic

[00:52:50] area and I think they probably repainted it and they probably I think added some you know

[00:52:59] three-dimensional character type things well I'll tell you what then static because I don't

[00:53:05] know enough I'm gonna go ahead and just be neutral with the queue and just no points

[00:53:10] no points awarded it's not going to be necessary I agree I agree it's not gonna be

[00:53:17] enough I mean I wish there were more I do actually have some semblance of an argument as to like

[00:53:26] a little bit of what's better or in some way like the show isn't better but

[00:53:31] I mean we can get into it when Eric's back but um do we do we want to I don't I'm not

[00:53:37] gonna have enough time to do Tiki Room should we let's try let's try because I know how much it

[00:53:42] means to Eric all right say speaking of Eric's back I wonder if his back's hurting from carrying

[00:53:47] this show so right and every other show he's got like 17 podcasts now yeah I know yeah I don't

[00:53:55] know how entertaining this is if you're new to the show Eric has literally walked away we may

[00:53:59] not cut this because I don't think Eric listens to the show so you may just hear us rambling

[00:54:04] he'll he'll cut this part out he'll cut parts of this out he'll cut the parts that I think need to

[00:54:08] be cut out okay um yeah oh of course he's gonna cut those parts out because he's gonna be like no

[00:54:15] they found me they figured it out

[00:54:19] yeah I'm so I'm looking at Yesterland for uh the Muppet Vision and um do you remember that the

[00:54:38] entrance used to be on the other side of the building like facing the Hollywood to this

[00:54:45] back lot area the entrance to actually had something going for it Muppet Vision 3d I do

[00:54:51] remember that yeah and they kind of like made a tie-in sort of with like why that area looked so

[00:54:58] crappy it was like well the Muppets did it um but no not anymore not just crappy yep um

[00:55:06] Eric is back and Eric you may want to listen back just in case you want to cut an edit free

[00:55:15] episode I may have we'll see it's up to you maybe it's up to you mister

[00:55:24] I'm a doctor actually I notice your bangs have lowered but interesting okay so uh we've decided

[00:55:31] yes like my bangs out while it was upstairs I've decided that um we're gonna keep it neutral

[00:55:38] because we can't I can't really fault Philharmagic DCA for the Muppets again and the cues are

[00:55:46] similar yeah I'm just gonna let's keep it neutral and move on to the show itself so Eric I believe

[00:55:52] the scenes are all the same but there's some uh Dan already kind of alluded to it that the

[00:55:56] dramatic difference so I'll let you tell the story of the current version of Philharmagic

[00:56:02] okay well even though we've decided that that we really can't uh say bigger is better the screen at

[00:56:09] Walt Disney World is 150 feet long and 24 feet high it's also curved I think Dan um already made

[00:56:17] the point that in this case it is in fact Disneyland's fault because they had the room

[00:56:20] they could have made this happen 100% go ahead all right well this this attraction marks the

[00:56:28] first time that Mickey Mouse was rendered in CGI and also the first time Mickey Mouse was in 3D

[00:56:35] Agrabah in the Aladdin scene this was the the largest space ever created in CGI at the time

[00:56:43] the attraction is wheelchair and ECV accessible and it has genie plus I guess but

[00:56:51] you probably shouldn't use that no you you shouldn't you should not

[00:56:56] I don't I don't want to talk I don't want to cut into Tiki time too much but

[00:57:02] I just want to say you should not yeah right the dog diversion was unless it's closed and

[00:57:09] how about I gotta tell you if it's closed yet then and it's closed like currently and there's

[00:57:14] lightning lane open currently grab it because then you'll get uh Scarily pass as I call them

[00:57:21] oh right oh good point um so but Derek I think it's probably important you you kind of um

[00:57:29] you skipped ahead of yourself you talk about the screen I think for those people at Disneyland

[00:57:33] who have not seen Mickey Spillhar magic in Disney World you should probably paint that picture

[00:57:38] it's I mean 150 feet long it's enormous the theater is very large right but it's not 150

[00:57:45] feet long when you sit down is my point oh oh I see what you're saying yeah I'm talking about

[00:57:52] the reveal that you don't get at Disneyland right yeah when the when the curtain first rises

[00:57:58] it's a smaller portion of screen that then expands as the movie progresses um expands to the left

[00:58:06] and right with a big reveal I do like the little side things that Dan will maybe talk about at at

[00:58:13] Disneyland the little side screens those are kind of cool why so I thought it was a clever way

[00:58:20] of replicating the effect that you have at Walt Disney World which is so massive and impressive

[00:58:25] like exactly how has it it's impressive as opposed to oh it's clever they're trying

[00:58:32] so that's the fundamental point here is they tried but not very hard so what's impressive is a

[00:58:39] opening with uh an orchestra uh Donald Duck Mickey Mouse you know and Donald comes in the

[00:58:45] tool around and he grabs the wand and puts on the hat and everything kind of goes haywire

[00:58:53] and when everything goes dark the proscenium stage a proscenium arch lifts out of the way

[00:59:00] and the reveal of 150 foot screen that feels very much like impressions to France

[00:59:06] you know the whole and it's seamless screen too right and and there's nothing nothing

[00:59:11] unless you've been on on it before or unless you have a demnoxious friend that's just like

[00:59:15] wait just you happens like it's and this is I think I remember the first time I saw I was

[00:59:23] my jaw dropped and I was like actually just amazed because nothing in this up to that point

[00:59:32] tells you that that's a possibility it's like I'm sure this thing it's in France

[00:59:38] it's like my friend and I said to each other after watching Interstellar like they didn't tell

[00:59:43] Matt they didn't say Matt Damon wasn't in the movie you know it's like it's it's like that thing

[00:59:49] where it's where it's just like oh this is a thing that I wasn't it's like that same treat as

[00:59:56] like if you watch Fight Club for this the first time uh telling yourself yes this is just going

[01:00:02] to be a dumb action movie when it ceases to be that it's so much more rewarding right so anyway

[01:00:09] the reveal and Eric I don't want to step on your toes do you want to talk about scene by scene yeah

[01:00:13] I can go through the scenes pretty quick here um because I mean I'm I'm kind of trying to get up

[01:00:19] toward tiki time here but before we get to the scenes uh we'll do another uh boring list of

[01:00:23] voice actors um I'm not going to do the full thing for for brevity because most of the

[01:00:28] voice actors are the original voice actors do we need to find music for the segment uh

[01:00:35] Eric talks about people Eric talks about people talking um I probably have some good ones that I

[01:00:43] could play around behind this one will be pretty quick worth noting Wayne all wine was the both

[01:00:51] voice of mickey at the time Wayne was the third official mickey after walt and jimmy mcdonald

[01:00:58] hey guys I gotta get a joke for you yeah what does Wayne drink when he goes to the bar

[01:01:06] what all wine oh that paid off thanks for listening all right another chapter break

[01:01:17] who am I kidding I can't figure out chapter if chris provost is listening you know he just

[01:01:21] lost his he's lost it did you hear that what we must work with you on your next video

[01:01:33] and his wife's probably like sitting there watching him react daughter getting ready to give him a

[01:01:38] kidney punch no it's his wife okay Wayne Wayne started as the voice of mickey in 1977 and he

[01:01:49] played mickey for 32 years he's the longest running mickey actor uh he was also married to

[01:01:56] russie taylor who portrayed mini mouse also in this feature uh let's see um clarence ducky nash

[01:02:05] who was the original voice of donald duck was most of the voice work for donald in this feature

[01:02:10] so they use archival footage for most of donald's lines but toni and selmo who was playing donald

[01:02:17] at the time subbed in four or five lines and then pretty much everybody else in in the feature are

[01:02:25] the same voice actors you know and love from all the things that you know and love speaking of donald

[01:02:32] duck I would like to make an argument uh against uh this your your attraction because he has a

[01:02:38] creepy attraction to a very young aerial and that's a good point but that's true for both

[01:02:45] no what oh yeah that yeah that does happen in both yeah okay well happens in tokyo too

[01:02:51] and paris this rides everywhere folks it's a good show yeah it is it yeah it is when it's

[01:02:59] the full thing yes it's very it's very all right so we we got the voice actors um then what are

[01:03:05] the show scenes all right show scenes we start out goofy is the stage manager he gets uh zapped

[01:03:10] as he tries to get things rolling I will say um here's a little scientific spotlight for you

[01:03:19] if you say someone got electrocuted they died

[01:03:26] if you got shocked then you received a blast of electricity but you survived congratulations

[01:03:34] hmm just a little bit of semantics there for you

[01:03:39] great so and I if I recall correctly you see the outline of goofy getting zapped behind the curtain

[01:03:46] maybe is it a projection on the curtain or from is it a back projection let's forget about it

[01:03:53] yeah okay pass your curtain you're like questioning a thing I'm like I literally watched that this

[01:03:59] morning I'm not remembering because I have only seen the california's introversion for several years

[01:04:06] and it's not there okay all right uh mini mouse mouse mini mouse asks you to put on your opera

[01:04:12] grass the glass is my can't talk uh these are regular 3d glasses they're not opera glasses really

[01:04:20] people it's just it's just regular you need to have them on though so to make it cool

[01:04:25] uh nothing is ready for the the the performance mickey runs off and donald who is sleeping nearby

[01:04:33] finds mickey's sorcerer hat and wand he dons the hat and there's a whirlwind of music as the

[01:04:40] instruments start coming to life uh you feel wind blowing jimmy are you weighing in on the

[01:04:47] the topic okay no he's just he's just leaning forward to the mic you do fill in you do

[01:04:52] fill in blowing um less so tell look at them it's pretty intense actually you know what let's just do

[01:05:02] let's do let's do play my play yeah okay uh wind california adventure um it's let it's let you

[01:05:10] know what it's less intense for our more sensitive viewers how about that well there you go okay

[01:05:16] we start out at beauty and the beast during the be our guest scene which plays through the song

[01:05:24] donald's involved which that is the actual reveal that scene and i don't know if you were going to get

[01:05:31] to it but because oh as with when the proscenium moved yes right because as far as we know it's

[01:05:38] still just tiny screen everything's blowing around um i mean the screen wait the screen does slowly

[01:05:46] expand to i i'm obsessed with how this thing works with reveals because i it's awesome to me then go

[01:05:54] ahead and describe it because every scene every scene has a purpose in the reveal until it runs out of

[01:06:00] reveals to do and it ends which is lovely so if i remember correctly when the fans go on the

[01:06:08] the the original screen expands to like just a bigger screen and then darkness and then we see

[01:06:20] match get lit and then once that opens up to the full scene we get the giant reveal of the

[01:06:29] of the huge huge huge screen yeah and it's just the drawing back of the curtain the

[01:06:34] proscenium just lifts up into the flyspace and the person or the curtain just pulls back and then

[01:06:40] it pulls back more and pulls back more yeah yeah just keeps going it is it is very impressive and

[01:06:47] introduces fragrance to where it's like oh we have that now too right we've got food smells coming

[01:06:53] in during during the show there the apple pie smell maybe that's the fourth dimension we're

[01:07:00] dealing with the smell it's hers when the bottles when the champagne bottles pop we get a little spritz

[01:07:06] get a little little moist um yeah let's see any other any other effects in that scene i think that's

[01:07:14] kind of it that's kind of it and it's it really it it sets the stage for like okay this is what

[01:07:21] we're doing here and if you're at disney land or california adventure similar sense and things

[01:07:28] like that but instead of that proscenium and the and the widening of the curtain they're just smaller

[01:07:33] screens next to the main screen yeah so they have uh you have the the screen on on which

[01:07:38] muppet vision 3d used to be projected and they have uh the proscenium is projected with

[01:07:45] projected curtains because they didn't want to build curtains uh because you know again

[01:07:49] the gift card at home depot was only for so much and um and then when we have that reveal

[01:07:56] we get some fans but it's kind of like the equivalent of the canon sound at uh parts like arabia and

[01:08:04] magic kingdom where it's sort of a blast it's like so it's kind of that sensation but in fan form and

[01:08:14] and then the next thing you can tell that they thought about it and they were like okay well

[01:08:19] what if we just instead of having a reveal of the big ass screen what if we have the

[01:08:27] the framing of the image kind of like slowly expand throughout this be our guest thing which

[01:08:37] like you can almost feel them in like uh adobe premiere being like how about this what if we did

[01:08:44] that and then it slowly expands and as it expands you can see like the letter boxing

[01:08:50] because the format's weird there's like a weird sort of like it gets to a point where it's

[01:08:54] the image is too big for the screen so then it kind of like shrinks down a little bit on some way

[01:08:59] and but while that's happening so you don't notice unless you've been on it too many times

[01:09:05] and and have have I think I think it's built with the idea that no one will return so if you

[01:09:12] have returned you will notice that then the formatting gets weirder on the main screen

[01:09:16] but while that happens this the sides the sides of the building turn into screens as well

[01:09:23] but not entirely because the structure of the building is still Muppet Vision 3D so it still

[01:09:30] has like little columns that you're dealing with so no matter what it is always you are in the

[01:09:37] building you're in and the movie is happening outside the building right so it's not seamless

[01:09:44] as the point it's not like that's another way of saying that yeah there are slashes of

[01:09:50] screen off right sides they tried they did try you can tell that you can tell that after the

[01:09:56] initial decision making was made of like yeah we're not gonna do that we're not gonna do that

[01:10:02] you can tell that the creative team that was put in that limitation box was like okay well we can

[01:10:09] do this what are we gonna cut out of the picture yeah how can we fit as much in as possible

[01:10:17] right yeah well there you go and i'm pretty sure statler and wal dorf are still up there in that

[01:10:23] moment oh you bet they're still up there which makes me so sad sad and happy they probably

[01:10:31] harvested several gears for statler and wal dorf in florida every time i go in there i look up

[01:10:39] out there like it's it's right there wouldn't it be great if they came out and commented on

[01:10:46] they should they absolutely should i'm not i'm not even joking that would save this if they

[01:10:54] hundred percent be like well what do you expect they nobody watched our show i don't and i know why

[01:11:00] ho i mean they have better eyes right um but yeah do they i mean yeah anyway so let's say

[01:11:13] let's get this over with so we can get on to you to talk about uh fantasia comes next where we're

[01:11:19] we're looking at the the sorcerer's apprentice portion the marching brooms are marching and

[01:11:25] we get water sprayed on us because of course we do and uh let's see the little mermaid

[01:11:31] donald tries to kiss ariel a a young teenager uh tween maybe um and an eel uh shocks uh him

[01:11:44] to be clear not electrocutes yes to be cleared not electrocutes this is actually where i was

[01:11:49] going to put in the scientific spotlight but i did it earlier but now we all know

[01:11:54] that he was not electrocuted uh lion king comes next simba and his friends

[01:12:02] saying i just can't wait to be king i like the effects as they they switch into a more abstract

[01:12:07] thing where there are flowers around and like simba's in the middle of one of them and

[01:12:11] it really great imagery um and hey zazu is here which reminds me of the the history for

[01:12:19] the enchanted tiki room that where i'm prepared to talk about under new management um when zazu and

[01:12:25] yago joined the birds right they were soundly rejected and died by fire because that's that's

[01:12:30] interesting right like we agree that's really interesting we can't wait to talk absolutely

[01:12:34] absolutely sorry i keep jumping ahead yes spoilers yeah spoilers uh koko a new segment added to

[01:12:42] all of the versions of philhar magic everybody sings un poco loco which is my all them

[01:12:47] movie yeah it started out in dca and then was added to tokyo paris and finally walt disney world

[01:12:56] well fine uh have i talked about award-winners not not this minute okay uh peter pan you can

[01:13:05] fly and then tinker bell pixie dusts donald so he can fly too by the way when

[01:13:12] when we uh when we're watching in dca this is when the the building the seam the seam fullness of it

[01:13:25] becomes very clear because it's like the building is flying now the building is what the building

[01:13:33] is flying now because with it it feels like like the like it feels like the building is flying

[01:13:39] whereas because there's visual stuff in the way the building itself is in the way oh gotcha

[01:13:45] yeah yeah it's you know they're trying they tried they try they they try i mean they

[01:13:56] they did try i don't i don't know i'm making it clear enough they did try but you can feel

[01:14:03] the limitations it's like throwing a it's like throwing a big party with like you know a $10 budget

[01:14:12] you know it's like or like hey we're gonna do a fashion show but it's all from big lots you know

[01:14:20] like they're still trying all right so after coco yeah after coco after peter pan we've got

[01:14:29] a laden part of your world they're on the carpet because donald's flying now and throughout this

[01:14:36] this entire thing donald is trying to get the sorcerer's hat back so that he can gain control of the show

[01:14:42] finally he gets it there's a giant whirlwind if you're at Walt Disney World you feel like

[01:14:47] you're getting blown out of your seat it's so immersive if you're at dca you get it's

[01:14:52] it's just it's a nice gentle breeze not overwhelming because i because i mean just to be fair they don't

[01:15:00] have the space yes there there are seven nice men who have little handheld fans with the spray bottles

[01:15:08] walking through i mean i i guess i wouldn't be so hard on this if it wasn't like you have a

[01:15:17] empty building behind this building and you could have just done it there kept them up at vision open

[01:15:26] yeah you have 3d movie next to 3d movie but like it's what else they better do it's better than 3d

[01:15:32] movie next to nothing i mean you got spider-man shooter game adjacent to toy shooter game the

[01:15:40] Avengers store that they sometimes open it's not not anymore it's not there oh okay

[01:15:48] like we don't want to sell any more of this junk no no they sell the same junk but now it's in

[01:15:54] it's at Avengers campus uh they you know that the the the building that's right there's yeah

[01:16:01] yeah the building they're supposedly gonna build the e-ticket in yeah uh yeah so they now have it

[01:16:06] so that you know how like you have those characters that fight above that store yeah and how people

[01:16:13] like want to stop and watch the thing uh they have it so that you can't do that now because you

[01:16:18] have to have an opening for the store oh i love disneyland i think it's when they do things right

[01:16:26] they really do things right but holy supreme i

[01:16:35] all right so he gets the hat back uh so jasmine puts it on his head iago knocks it off his head

[01:16:44] he falls down then everything resets right big whirlwind we're back to the orchestra and

[01:16:52] the cnm back in right mickey picks up the hat by the way eric did you figure out what the mechanism

[01:16:58] is that makes that thing go shloop back in so quickly because it it moves that that that structural

[01:17:06] thing moves fat and i know i've said this before but i am so impressed with it and every time i'm

[01:17:12] like goshers um like it it it's been it comes back in at a speed that's something that size

[01:17:19] should not move out it's it's not very thick it's light weight and it's just it's just fly space

[01:17:24] just you've been to theater they pull it up they drop it down i i believe you but it's just the

[01:17:30] effect is so impressive it it looks like a very large heavy thing oh yeah it does look like it's

[01:17:39] it's solid but yeah definitely isn't yeah i mean it's it it it's impressive in that it probably

[01:17:47] is a very dumb easy effect just like you know it's fly space like you said right but it's done so well

[01:17:53] and it's so impressive that it's like i watched i will watch that show just for that effect right

[01:18:00] okay so mickey grabs the hat donald gets knocked into a tuba by the flute that's playing the mickey

[01:18:06] mouse club theme at the beginning with that donald's annoys annoyed with and uh he gets fired off of the

[01:18:14] stage and if you turn around his animatronic buns are sticking out of the wall at the back of the theater

[01:18:22] very enjoyable very cute and then he falls in yeah and that that's true in uh california too because

[01:18:30] that was the same effect with the canon and the sweet chef and all that yeah i'm up it's

[01:18:34] yes they were able to do it because they already had the hole right i don't think it would

[01:18:39] exist if they didn't already have the hole to be fair yes do you when donald reaches out

[01:18:48] on the screen at some point do you reach out and try to grab his hands

[01:18:54] um i actually i try to kiss him and i say what's that feel like donald

[01:19:00] okay a little taste of your own medicine pervert

[01:19:04] i see i'm trying to kiss you too many times in the part

[01:19:07] arial try to kiss a oh i see you're getting back okay yeah on ariel's behalf okay so um

[01:19:14] i'm waiting at a real anything else you want to talk about requested kiss with the show um

[01:19:20] let's read is i mean yeah it's old 3d but it doesn't feel that old

[01:19:28] okay maybe it's the scale i or maybe it's because it's largely cartoon characters

[01:19:34] it's pretty good right i think so okay it's digital now right what's that yeah it's all digital right

[01:19:44] okay well i've come to my verdict if you have not guessed i have an i have an argument i have a

[01:19:50] couple actual arguments i know where this is going and i don't disagree but i need to

[01:19:55] i need to say these things that i've thought of is i've been trying to come up with any

[01:20:01] any way to defend this thing first of all that space could be utilized for a dark ride

[01:20:10] a very awesome dark ride perhaps bringing back mr toad um because it's a giant giant space and

[01:20:19] um the fancy land at magic kingdom is currently kind of hurting for dark rights

[01:20:25] compared to disneyland right um also my at california adventure this show or a a show of this kind

[01:20:38] should exist more so than an additional show of this kind needs to exist at the magic kingdom

[01:20:45] let me explain at magic kingdom you have tiki rum philhar magic country bread jamboree uh i think

[01:20:54] those are the old what carousel of progress carousel oh yeah carousel of progress okay thank you

[01:21:00] and well i mean you could even possibly put people mover in there but that's it's not really a show

[01:21:06] but it kind of has that same kind of like middle of the day yeah the middle of the day

[01:21:13] something to take gampi on you know like that kind of energy um dca only has this

[01:21:20] it should have more but it only has this there's a better argument in there that i haven't really

[01:21:28] untapped yet well it's it's also got a giant broadway style theater around the corner but

[01:21:33] they're not using it yeah so therefore they were for a little while but then the contract ran out

[01:21:41] for the garage also has giant screens too that are very similar to what we're talking about

[01:21:46] about so they could put philhar magic in that space well that would be in an impressive space

[01:21:54] well i've no i i have rarely been in the grasping at straws position i don't like it any more than

[01:22:01] you guys do well it i'll stop you from grasping um 10 points for philhar magic and magic kingdom

[01:22:08] it's an impressive show it's full immersion mouth jaw drop like dan said worth the price of admission

[01:22:14] to watch the thing the proscenium drop and everything else it's a magic trick and it's wonderful

[01:22:19] and they tried at dca but they failed so uh i don't know if we really want to go into the

[01:22:25] the land impact but eric while you are away dan had mentioned that the muppet vision 3d's entrance

[01:22:31] was kind of on the opposite side of where philhar magic's entrances no longer adjacent to

[01:22:37] ward weaners that is all that's it yeah i never actually got to go there when

[01:22:44] muppet vision was still going so yeah i don't i don't recall that it's in a weird spot and it's

[01:22:49] in a weird part of the park they changed the entrance so people knew where it was right

[01:22:54] because no nothing happens back in that area outside of monsters but right um so magic kingdoms

[01:23:00] impact is it's just another one of the storefronts if you will right it's it's a part of fantasy

[01:23:07] land and you want to have all of the parts of fantasy land working and why not have a movie starring

[01:23:14] donald duck and donald duck several of your friends that can evolve and add new scenes when

[01:23:20] there are new beloved features yeah well you know once in the last yeah it's looking at some of

[01:23:27] the arguments and discussions online that people were saying that like wouldn't be cool if they

[01:23:33] could like start tours this thing where they have a bunch of different interchangeable scenes

[01:23:38] which well every time you go on it's a different thing yeah yeah i don't disagree i mean as long

[01:23:43] as you keep the beginning and the end the same then that could work yeah it's a great idea

[01:23:50] they'll never do it but it is a great idea for rewatchability and you could even do it like

[01:23:56] they do with parades and stuff or used to do with parades where like the movie comes out the

[01:23:59] same day the parade opens you could do that kind of thing with um with philhar magic like this disney

[01:24:05] wish movie you could have a wish scene in that thing because it's all digital you can add donald

[01:24:12] duck to it and i'm sure everybody who is on these films now they've learned from marvel you get

[01:24:17] everybody to sign as part of their contract is if we need you for a theme park show you're doing

[01:24:23] right um anyway all right so impact whatever the point is mickey's philhar magic magic kingdom is the

[01:24:30] supreme mickey's philhar magic let's move on to the tiki room before we do you want to do e-tickets

[01:24:37] right yeah so so there was another show behind the paywall of another podcast we talk about

[01:24:44] and and they didn't do a very good job at e-tickets they had a listener mailbag situation

[01:24:49] and i forget the question that was posed i think it was like should this thing still be an e-ticket so

[01:24:55] for those listeners who don't know which would surprise me disney used to classify before it

[01:25:00] was an all-inclusive pass where you could just get on everything uh with buying an admission

[01:25:05] used to pay a dollar to walk in or two dollars whatever it was and they would give you or

[01:25:09] you'd buy a coupon book a coupons are the main street vehicles b is i don't know the carousel

[01:25:15] c is um something else and then in 1959 they introduced the e-ticket canoes are also start with a c

[01:25:24] sinu's yeah can sinu's um so the monorail uh submarine voyage uh um trying to i'm sorry

[01:25:34] everest matterhorn they're all e-tickets right so in in common vernacular an e-ticket attraction

[01:25:42] is rise of the resistance right um a hundred mansion was an e-ticket so as these things evolve

[01:25:51] they still refer to these things as e-ticket they they then they do c-ticket d-ticket whatever

[01:25:58] so my argument here is if walters if they're still doing ticket books what letter are we on

[01:26:05] hmm that's the real question because things have to evolve in my hair and see what if for example

[01:26:15] the submarine voyage is no longer an e-ticket no no we're gonna downgrade a lot of these

[01:26:19] attractions but right i don't see why you would need to go beyond e-ticket maybe you offer more

[01:26:24] tickets in the book well there's just a attraction that disneyland if it's about the immersion or

[01:26:30] quality or spectacle of the thing you can't say rise the resistance is an e-ticket attraction and so

[01:26:36] is uh mr toad no no no you'd have to downgrade things over time i think you had another tier but

[01:26:44] you can't i mean you can't have an f ticket why not because f is failure jimmy skip over f and move

[01:26:51] to g like i don't know like so so there's two arguments here my argument is that it just keeps

[01:26:58] evolving and i'm gonna use rise of resistance again as sort of the current top tier but then there was

[01:27:04] there's guardians of the galaxy there's tower of terror rock and roller coaster test track

[01:27:09] like are those if those are all e-tickets then rise of the resistance has to be an f or a g or

[01:27:15] what letter should we be on at this point walt disneyworld so my my point here is walt disneyworld

[01:27:20] has so few attractions per park you could stick you could stick with e when the new thing comes

[01:27:27] out kind of like with lightning lane where they say all right the new attractions out there's either a

[01:27:31] virtual q or a lightning lane you have to pay for so we're gonna downgrade the rest of the stuff

[01:27:36] like d tickets can be tower of terror and rock and roller coaster and e can be rise and

[01:27:47] run away real millennium falcon can't be an e ticket no it would be a c or a d okay so so your

[01:27:54] argument much left your argument is just downgrade everything else so if it's a currently an e ticket

[01:28:00] and it's tower of terror rise of resistance is the new standard for e ticket tower of terror

[01:28:05] gets dropped to a d right so aliens are buying us there's isn't a or a b probably or i mean what

[01:28:12] if we combine these things a little bit and say keep a to e but then also have an additional

[01:28:18] tier of virtual q and or individual lightning lane but what what under the guise of this argument

[01:28:27] what ticket is that is that e plus we actually honestly with current disney nomenclature it

[01:28:35] would in fact be e plus right that's fair so yeah i guess so i guess either one either

[01:28:43] argument is sound for me i still contend that if we're still doing ticket books i don't maybe you're

[01:28:50] adding more to the c ticket book as more e tickets come online but i think i think there's a couple

[01:28:56] ways to have this conversation and i i think that the difficulty i'm having is that i don't

[01:29:01] know which direction to go in because it's a it's a good conversation to have but i think in

[01:29:07] reality what it would look like currently is it would be entirely based on the popularity of

[01:29:12] the right um whether it should or not and then so the so that brings up the other come other way

[01:29:19] to have the conversation is if we do just talk about the i don't know detail quality whatever of

[01:29:28] the ride and don't take into account the wait time yeah there's going to be some overlap but

[01:29:34] not necessarily then that's another way to have the conversation okay well let me reframe again so

[01:29:41] um we use the term e ticket in the disney vernacular we use the term the e ticket to explain a blockbuster

[01:29:50] new attraction we still use the term candle power for light like the light at the top of the luxor

[01:29:58] is like three million candle power we still use horsepower to describe an engine so you have

[01:30:05] this my car has 300 horsepower whatever it is right so if if the same is true for e ticket

[01:30:16] it would have to expand beyond e ticket just like the number of horses it would take to get to this

[01:30:23] speed so too with the number of letter to explain this thing because you discount rise the resistance

[01:30:32] as an e ticket attraction if also the submarine voyage is an e ticket attraction it discounts the

[01:30:37] value of what the thing is yeah i i wonder okay again i'm doing that thing where i'm like

[01:30:48] i'm thinking in terms of like sort of like the theoretical idealistic e ticket being a standard

[01:30:55] bearer and maybe we have maybe maybe we do have something on top of that but then i'm also thinking

[01:31:01] how it would probably work is it probably go land by land and say like well this is tomorrow land's e

[01:31:08] ticket or this is fantasy land's e ticket like you know uh which i think is bad accounting on

[01:31:14] their part but that's probably what it would be um because i either that or they just complete

[01:31:23] i i think that the problem i'm having in addressing this is like i i know how they

[01:31:29] probably would do this and i think by now they would have gotten rid of the the lettering system

[01:31:35] and had it be like this weird like this is a more like tears yeah which obviously all of its moot

[01:31:47] but they brought up the conversation and i thought there was a better conversation to have around

[01:31:51] it so um listener pipe in what do you think do you think two things do you think we've gone

[01:31:56] to letter f or or let's say h or maybe we're up to t and if we still have coupon books

[01:32:04] or do we stop at e and we just reduce things that aren't of the same quality to a c or a b or a d

[01:32:14] yeah that was a call to action for the listeners you can you can reach us at uh i'm j hunt at

[01:32:20] countyyears.com uh e johnson at countyyears.com dan at ears up hyphen podcast dot com that's how

[01:32:25] you reach out and pipe in how else on the facebook group yeah facebook facebook group

[01:32:31] supreme resort group and chime in with your answer to what is an e ticket anymore or instagram we've

[01:32:38] got we've got instagram the supreme resort yeah it's not that i don't check it like on a cement

[01:32:43] or principle it's just not something i do okay uh guys i'm full transparency i'm really out it's

[01:32:51] been i've been sitting here for over two hours i know the episode's not quite that long but i really

[01:32:56] want to do take your room service it deserves more we thought this was going to go a lot faster

[01:33:02] by the way it should have gone a lot faster yeah um and if i'm being honest why would it go faster

[01:33:07] yeah well and if i'm being honest my notes are kind of old i haven't read them in a while and the

[01:33:13] i think i probably gave up on them halfway through when preparing them and i don't

[01:33:18] did the new bathroom the new sticky room bathroom was it open when we recorded i don't remember i

[01:33:23] haven't heard a lot of documents so years 2020 well yeah let's uh let's let's let's give it the

[01:33:29] respected deserves i'm sorry eric i know you really wanted to talk about it we'll find another

[01:33:33] episode that we can put it in or make it the main topic yeah another one that goes quickly

[01:33:38] like this one exactly right great all right thank you well folks thank you for listening

[01:33:44] i appreciate we have we appreciate your patronage um thank you for all your support and uh for new

[01:33:51] listeners welcome and we have other shows on the network we have ears up which is a podcast

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[01:34:02] is a news program puny pod is a podcast about the marvel cinematic universe where inexplicably

[01:34:09] they do spoiler free reviews of these movies um and i think the the explicable part is that

[01:34:20] they it's a rewatch podcast that a person who is watching for the first time can listen to

[01:34:29] without getting any of the future right gotcha okay uh stay tuned for that with the marvels

[01:34:37] which you can hear in 2027 um which i saw on opening day i'm yes that was me i was the one

[01:34:46] that saw it on opening day um i loved it it was so much fun i loved it i loved it i think it was fun

[01:34:53] the mid credit pre-credit mid credit all of it was wonderful i think it was just the right length

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[01:35:48] of the feedbacks is that i just want to hear the content of the show i don't want to hear

[01:35:51] you you know yahoo's talking about being nerds like talking about e tickets for 10 minutes

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[01:36:36] hey why does it do it fuel goes twice too um how was the ad that was great just enough

[01:36:47] ad was great all right i think it accomplished what you want to accomplish i think it's a fitting end

[01:36:55] because when you said nazi paraphernalia i'm like oh

[01:37:01] and and i should have probably credited i borrowed a few of well most of that from a song

[01:37:07] by steven lynch you've heard me talk about it i believe the song is called tiny mustache no god

[01:37:13] uh subtitle i think you're a nazi

[01:37:21] yeah i he says uh real quick um

[01:37:28] the ryan are gonna be heartbroken he's loved my life but it cuts like a knife and i feel

[01:37:33] i'm being misled see i'm a little concerned for i recently learned of this was the tattoo on

[01:37:38] your head makes you smile when you hear see kyle you love the smell of a burning cross in the yard

[01:37:45] you do goose step salutes in your doc martin boots and you quoted mine confin our fifth anniversary

[01:37:50] card i think you're a nazi you keep extensive files of the nuremberg trials etc etc anyway good stuff

[01:38:08] not a nazi