The Case of the Nemos: Subs versus Clamobiles Part 2

The Case of the Nemos: Subs versus Clamobiles Part 2

Following a Halloween hiatus you really must listen to, the Court returns to discuss their most important case yet: which is better? The Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage at Disneyland or The Seas with Nemo and Friends at Walt Disney World?

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[00:00:46] Welcome to The Supreme Resort, Land v. World, a podcast about Disneyland and Walt Disney World and which is The Supreme Resort?

[00:00:54] Pause for sting.

[00:00:56] There we go.

[00:00:57] Each episode we will discuss and explore each resort right by right.

[00:01:00] Land by land, park by park.

[00:01:02] I almost became a chast school guy for a second.

[00:01:04] Mermaid Bear Mermaid.

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[00:01:08] He's so cool!

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[00:01:10] He is the coolest.

[00:01:13] I'm Dan and thank you for joining me on this quest to help the greater good of humanity answer this long elusive question.

[00:01:19] Which is better, Disneyland or Walt Disney World?

[00:01:22] Joining me as always from scraping the vault, Jimmy.

[00:01:26] Hi! Hi everybody.

[00:01:28] Welcome to The Supreme Resort, scraping the vault.

[00:01:30] Christmas episode just announced.

[00:01:32] Chipmunk Christmas Special.

[00:01:34] Yeah.

[00:01:35] And from the upcoming podcast, Bowie explaining, Eric who just got his 50th COVID shot.

[00:01:42] Yay! Hey I'm here.

[00:01:45] Just announced our Christmas episode, Chipmunks.

[00:01:51] A three hour episode about Bowie and Bing Crosby singing Little Drummer Boy.

[00:01:57] Here we go.

[00:01:58] Either way.

[00:01:59] I don't know about that.

[00:02:02] Are you serious? You don't know about that?

[00:02:05] No, I don't know about that.

[00:02:07] Oh, you're in for such a treat.

[00:02:09] You haven't seen that, Eric?

[00:02:11] Are you kidding me?

[00:02:13] Jimmy, you've known me forever so like that's just like wallpaper for you.

[00:02:18] It's so famous.

[00:02:20] Bing is great.

[00:02:21] It's so famous, Eric, that Will Ferrell and John C. Riley did a shot by shot 100% recreation of the video.

[00:02:31] It is possibly the weirdest thing ever committed to video.

[00:02:35] It's wonderful.

[00:02:36] It's fantastic. I love it.

[00:02:38] I love it.

[00:02:39] So are there any puppets?

[00:02:41] No but we'll get there.

[00:02:43] So we are in the...

[00:02:45] Do you do a lot of music in the Bowie household?

[00:02:50] Let me mark down the time here.

[00:02:52] This is where listeners can skip too?

[00:02:58] So we are in smack dab in the middle of the case of the underwater projections.

[00:03:03] That's right, you guessed it.

[00:03:05] Finding Nemo submarine encounter the ride at Disneyland and the seas with Nemo and friends starring Nemo,

[00:03:11] the ride, the Pavilion, presented by Wonder Braddy.

[00:03:13] I've not changed that joke.

[00:03:15] And as Jimmy has said before, every episode is someone's first.

[00:03:19] So I need to point out that our previous episode was a Halloween episode where we do what we do and so that was someone's first.

[00:03:28] This is the one's first.

[00:03:30] I know it was the first for some people.

[00:03:32] I've promoted that so heavily.

[00:03:35] And this is probably someone's first.

[00:03:37] It's a continuation of part of an episode a month ago.

[00:03:41] Of an episode about a ride that just recreates a movie.

[00:03:45] So I intentionally have in my notes, Opsie.

[00:03:49] Opsie?

[00:03:51] Yeah, because I typed Opsie when I wanted to put Opsie.

[00:03:55] Oh, that's ironic.

[00:03:57] Don't you think?

[00:03:59] So some basic things before we get into the show.

[00:04:03] It's like fissures opening up in the earth when you marry the wrong person.

[00:04:07] You know, that classic line.

[00:04:09] Listen to scraping the vault everybody, Brother Bear 2.

[00:04:12] Yeah, like watching a movie with Dave Cullier.

[00:04:14] Anyway, so Christmas Crap is in the parks.

[00:04:20] Maybe a short episode with Eric and I talking about that will happen but don't hold us to it.

[00:04:25] The Adventure Land Tree is open as of this episode's release.

[00:04:29] I would imagine Asher was going to call in live from there but his parents won't let him use his phone service.

[00:04:38] It's our shared plan.

[00:04:40] And we haven't got any comments but I have a comment about the previous episode and about this topic,

[00:04:46] which is the sound many people might think might have thought they heard the sound of a chair,

[00:04:51] a creaky chair throughout the episode before.

[00:04:54] I appreciate your concern.

[00:04:56] It was actually the door to our studio opening and advertisers were dropping off money for us.

[00:05:03] Oh, the bags.

[00:05:05] Mm-hmm, the bags of money with comical dollar signs written on them.

[00:05:09] It wasn't because I'm bad at mixing audio.

[00:05:12] No, I think it's because the program you use is bad at using audio.

[00:05:17] Well, if you're not a creaky chair sounds listener.

[00:05:23] Oh wait, no, it's not working.

[00:05:26] You can't even create a creaky chair sound if you tried, my goodness.

[00:05:30] Hold on, hold on.

[00:05:31] I have tried.

[00:05:32] Those of you who are fans of chair sounds, here we go.

[00:05:35] There it is.

[00:05:38] Oh, I got to keep that in.

[00:05:40] Let me take a note.

[00:05:41] The content.

[00:05:42] Yeah, 20 minutes.

[00:05:45] Oh, we started recording before this happened.

[00:05:49] You haven't been listening for 20 minutes despite what it might feel like.

[00:05:53] Okay, all right, we're good.

[00:05:56] Okay.

[00:05:58] All right.

[00:05:59] So what's the score?

[00:06:01] The score is currently so in the previous episode just two episodes ago on the timeline.

[00:06:07] The official timeline, not the marble.

[00:06:10] Not the branched timeline.

[00:06:12] Whatever that show is.

[00:06:17] Disneyland submarine voyage starring Nemo and friends or whatever it's called has two points.

[00:06:25] Again, if it's your first episode, I know what I'm saying.

[00:06:28] Okay, I just don't care half the time.

[00:06:30] And Epcot Disney World has one point.

[00:06:34] Gonna make a gap.

[00:06:36] So far, we have observed the overview of each attraction and we've gone through the history of each attraction.

[00:06:43] Now we are going to explore the current version of the attraction.

[00:06:47] It's land impact.

[00:06:49] And is that how we do the show?

[00:06:51] It's been a while.

[00:06:52] Yes.

[00:06:53] Yeah, yeah, Q ride land impact.

[00:06:55] That's what's left.

[00:06:57] Q, right.

[00:06:58] Yeah.

[00:06:59] Yeah.

[00:07:00] Get ready.

[00:07:02] You're going down, Jimmy.

[00:07:04] I believe you.

[00:07:06] Your switchbacks are much darker than mine.

[00:07:09] And air conditioned.

[00:07:11] That's true.

[00:07:13] All right, so is that Jimmy?

[00:07:18] Are you first Jimmy or is it Eric?

[00:07:20] Yes, okay.

[00:07:21] Because the submarine voyage at Disneyland came first.

[00:07:24] Oh, we're going with that.

[00:07:25] Okay.

[00:07:26] All right.

[00:07:27] Continue the saga and impress me and impress our listeners.

[00:07:31] Just to catch everybody up.

[00:07:33] This is the submarine voyage with finding the most submarine voyage is the name of the ride.

[00:07:40] Oh, hey, sorry.

[00:07:42] Before you get started, listener especially long time listeners, we are considering breaking up these potentially bigger topics into two episodes sort of like we've done here with possibly not an entire month in between them.

[00:07:59] And send us send me I don't want to check my email.

[00:08:04] Send Jason an email.

[00:08:07] Jason will totally pass it on to us or go on our go to the Facebook group.

[00:08:12] Facebook group.

[00:08:13] Yes.

[00:08:14] Yeah, the Supreme Resort Facebook group.

[00:08:16] Supreme Resort Group.

[00:08:17] Let us know give us we genuinely want to know if you like this idea or not.

[00:08:23] We're just thinking it might actually make the content more informative.

[00:08:29] And people in our history is there's a lot of work that goes into a lot of research and it's fine.

[00:08:35] The research part all of that takes the same amount of time, but when you try to sit in one session with kind of getting together, getting the organized and 3040 minutes getting ready and then two and a half hours recording.

[00:08:45] It just gets very tedious.

[00:08:47] So and by the end of it, you're consolidating for the like kind of the listeners patients and like exactly even some of the best points.

[00:08:55] It's like, but okay, whatever we're done.

[00:08:57] Exactly.

[00:08:58] So and hey, before we really get going here, let's have a scientifician spot.

[00:09:04] Oh, we've got one ready for you folks.

[00:09:09] Let me take the reins here.

[00:09:19] Welcome to the scientifician spotlight.

[00:09:22] Fish.

[00:09:23] As far as scientificians know there are more than 300 varieties or as we like to call them species of fish.

[00:09:35] Little Danny, don't you have questions about fish?

[00:09:40] I cannot.

[00:09:43] Look, I know the discomfort that comes from you calling me that is well deserved based on a lifetime of being who I am.

[00:09:52] But I cannot express the amount of skin crawliness that comes every time you say that.

[00:09:59] All right, well then.

[00:10:00] I do have a question now.

[00:10:02] Maybe little Jimmy has a question for us.

[00:10:06] It's in the chat.

[00:10:07] Oh, is it?

[00:10:08] Oh, is it?

[00:10:09] I get how the supreme to gills work.

[00:10:17] 2440.

[00:10:19] Uh-huh.

[00:10:20] Okay, I'm running it down this time.

[00:10:22] It's in the chat.

[00:10:24] I know I'm just making sure I make notice of the don't we get one per episode like Guardians Galaxy.

[00:10:32] There we go.

[00:10:35] Man may never know how gills work.

[00:10:38] Perhaps fish scientists will share their secrets there that we're done.

[00:10:44] Oh, here's a drawing of a fish.

[00:10:47] It's a fish.

[00:10:48] Little Danny, please take a picture of that fish.

[00:10:52] And then the bubbles are coming on the smart glass.

[00:10:54] That is going on the Instagram.

[00:10:58] All right.

[00:11:00] Excellent.

[00:11:01] I'm sorry everybody.

[00:11:04] Okay, just got to cut with you.

[00:11:06] There is 2532.

[00:11:09] All right.

[00:11:10] Okay, we're good.

[00:11:11] Okay.

[00:11:12] So at the atrium, this is finding Nemo again because it's been a while since I introduced this finding Nemo.

[00:11:18] It's been a month submarine.

[00:11:20] Like in this episode, finding Nemo submarine voyage at the attraction's entrance.

[00:11:26] Yes, enter the Institute of Nautical Exploration and Marine Observation for you keen-eared listeners.

[00:11:34] That spells Nemo.

[00:11:36] Three seagulls perched on a nearby buoy cry out mine, mine, mine.

[00:11:42] Every few moments.

[00:11:44] Hank who voices those seagulls.

[00:11:46] I never mind.

[00:11:47] I'll talk about it later.

[00:11:49] Thank you.

[00:11:50] Hank from finding Dory, the octopus played by Al Bundy.

[00:11:57] Septopus.

[00:11:58] He was okay.

[00:12:00] He was added nearby, but he's not animated like the seagulls are.

[00:12:04] A guest board, one of Nemo's eight yellow research submarines and set out in search of an active underwater volcano.

[00:12:13] Nemo submarine names the 107 Nautilus 207 Scout formerly Neptune formerly seawolf 307 Voyager formerly sea star formerly skate 407 Mariner formerly explorer formerly skipjack 507 seafarer formerly seeker formerly triton 607 Explorer formerly Argonaut formerly George Washington 707 Neptune formerly Triton formerly Patrick Henry and finally 807.

[00:12:42] Argonaut formerly seawolf formerly Ethan Allen.

[00:12:46] Your honor, can I ask at this time what is your tolerance for this kind of list of nonsense?

[00:12:53] Honestly, I just ignored at this point.

[00:12:55] Okay, great.

[00:12:57] You're not alone.

[00:12:58] You're in for it.

[00:12:59] Wheelchair bound guests or those who can't get down the spiral staircase in the sub can view the experience from a special topside viewing room in the queue.

[00:13:10] Seats about six abled body persons plus two wheelchairs with the exception of one small animated effect.

[00:13:17] The visual is identical, perhaps faster, but despite a large monitor, the creatures appear smaller than when viewing them through a real porthole.

[00:13:27] The wait for the alternate viewing area is usually brief.

[00:13:30] Ask a cast member how to bypass the standby line and there are Mickey's hidden in the dive lockers inside.

[00:13:36] Isn't that fun?

[00:13:37] Oh.

[00:13:39] Yeah.

[00:13:40] So it's basically switchbacks outside and yeah, everyone can experience this in one form or another because those ride vehicles are very tight and you have to be able to walk down very tight spiral stairs.

[00:13:56] So is it just like a video of the?

[00:14:00] Yeah, basically.

[00:14:01] Okay.

[00:14:02] The same is true for like the walkthrough for Sleeping Beauty's Castle.

[00:14:06] There's a room where you can watch it walk through.

[00:14:09] Are you talking about the ride when we should be talking about the queue?

[00:14:13] I'm talking about the queue, Eric.

[00:14:15] In the queue, you can watch the ride.

[00:14:20] The end.

[00:14:21] Great.

[00:14:22] Okay.

[00:14:25] Do they play any Bobby Darren music in the queue?

[00:14:30] At the end of the ride, they do play.

[00:14:34] You were there for a moment.

[00:14:36] Absolutely.

[00:14:38] Beyond the sea.

[00:14:40] Okay.

[00:14:41] But only Kevin Spacey's cover.

[00:14:43] That's right.

[00:14:44] Only Kevin Spacey's version.

[00:14:45] You cannot listen to that.

[00:14:46] He's the captain.

[00:14:47] He's the captain of every submarine.

[00:14:49] Yep.

[00:14:50] Yeah.

[00:14:51] As a friend of mine said, and Eric, I believe you were there for this,

[00:14:55] but you might have not zeroed in on it as much as I did.

[00:14:59] And this is a real quote.

[00:15:01] And I've since shared this with her and my irritation about it.

[00:15:05] If you love, if you like Bobby Darren, you'll love this ride.

[00:15:10] Oh, that is an actual observation.

[00:15:13] I'm not going to say this person's name.

[00:15:16] It's 50-50.

[00:15:17] Which of the two people?

[00:15:19] I'm pretty sure I know which one.

[00:15:22] Oh, you do.

[00:15:24] If you love Bobby Darren.

[00:15:27] Yep.

[00:15:28] One of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

[00:15:30] Anyway.

[00:15:31] Sorry, sorry, whoever you are.

[00:15:35] We told her that.

[00:15:37] We find this delightful.

[00:15:39] Yeah.

[00:15:40] Yeah.

[00:15:41] She does too.

[00:15:42] It's fine.

[00:15:43] Right.

[00:15:44] So Eric, tell me about your cue and do I get to watch a video

[00:15:51] footage of finding Nemo's submarine voyage in a room at your

[00:15:59] attraction?

[00:16:00] Well, no.

[00:16:02] You don't get to watch the entire ride in a room in the

[00:16:05] attraction because you can go past it if you do not want to

[00:16:11] get onto your clam mobile, which many people can.

[00:16:18] Oh, you can still bypass it?

[00:16:22] You could still bypass.

[00:16:24] Yes.

[00:16:25] You can still head into the attraction by another route.

[00:16:29] The cue starts out with...

[00:16:34] Let's be clear for the listener, Eric.

[00:16:36] You can't bypass the attraction.

[00:16:39] You can't get onto the attraction by bypassing.

[00:16:41] You get into the seas by bypassing the attraction.

[00:16:44] You can get into the seas by bypassing the attraction.

[00:16:47] Yes.

[00:16:48] There you go.

[00:16:49] Can you see aspects of the ride?

[00:16:52] I watched a ride through last night, but I didn't...

[00:16:57] You can just see the load area, I think.

[00:16:59] Okay.

[00:17:00] I have not found any evidence that there is a watch through

[00:17:04] of this mediocre attraction we're spending so much time on.

[00:17:10] I didn't think that I would go there, but I think it has...

[00:17:15] That has to be a point for subs.

[00:17:18] Oh, no.

[00:17:23] Uh-oh.

[00:17:24] Three to one.

[00:17:25] Okay.

[00:17:26] Well, yeah.

[00:17:27] You can bypass it.

[00:17:28] You can head through a different tunnel and you can either

[00:17:31] get onto the attraction because it's an omnimover and many

[00:17:35] people can get onto an omnimover if properly motivated with...

[00:17:41] We're talking about the queue.

[00:17:43] What's in the queue?

[00:17:44] Oh, yes, the queue.

[00:17:45] The queue.

[00:17:46] Oh, gosh, the queue.

[00:17:47] Well, once you enter the queue, there are water effects

[00:17:52] projected onto the walls.

[00:17:54] So it looks like you're underwater at points.

[00:17:56] The switchbacks look like aged wood.

[00:18:02] Oh, yes.

[00:18:04] And there are portions where you can see...

[00:18:08] You can see coral with projections of your favorite friends

[00:18:14] from the Finding Nemo series.

[00:18:19] It's not a series.

[00:18:20] They're only two...

[00:18:21] Projections?

[00:18:23] They're on screens.

[00:18:25] They're not projections.

[00:18:26] There is also, at the end...

[00:18:28] I know it's actually...

[00:18:30] It's at the beginning.

[00:18:31] Sorry, I'm getting things mixed up in my head here.

[00:18:33] There's a beach area.

[00:18:35] So there's a lifeguard station that has signs.

[00:18:39] One of the signs says, please stay off the lifeguard station.

[00:18:44] There are beach rentals.

[00:18:48] This is station 5A.

[00:18:50] And there is a sign that reads the surf conditions that can...

[00:18:55] That has an arrow that points between mild, choppy, and just swell.

[00:19:00] Okay.

[00:19:02] I have ideas.

[00:19:04] Jimmy, I am curious.

[00:19:06] We're not done with the cube, by the way.

[00:19:08] I know.

[00:19:09] I have questions.

[00:19:11] Do you want to put the seagulls saying,

[00:19:14] mine, mine, mine, and Ted Bundy?

[00:19:19] Ted Bundy.

[00:19:21] Whoopsie.

[00:19:23] Oh, different Bundy.

[00:19:25] That was a real one.

[00:19:28] This is Dark Rides.

[00:19:32] Oh, boy.

[00:19:33] Do you want to have those theme parks?

[00:19:35] Do you want to say that those are part of the cube,

[00:19:38] or do you want that to be land impact?

[00:19:41] Interesting.

[00:19:43] Same for this one.

[00:19:45] I read about it as part of the cube because you can't see it from the ride.

[00:19:48] I can tell you from what I'm gleaming currently,

[00:19:52] you both have very strong land impacts for different reasons.

[00:19:57] Good point.

[00:19:59] I'm going to go ahead and withdraw the statement from the cube

[00:20:03] and add it to the land impact.

[00:20:05] Okay.

[00:20:06] In that case, I give the seas cube so far.

[00:20:12] He hasn't even brought up the seagulls.

[00:20:14] They're not even part of the cube at this point.

[00:20:16] They got wooden switchbacks.

[00:20:18] They got a...

[00:20:19] So he is not presenting...

[00:20:21] Lifeguard stand.

[00:20:22] We can hear.

[00:20:24] Here's what I'm hearing so far.

[00:20:26] Effort versus lack of effort.

[00:20:28] Before you land, enter the land of the seas.

[00:20:31] Is that the cube?

[00:20:32] And by the way, they're gone.

[00:20:34] Temporarily, they're being refurbished.

[00:20:37] There are loose wires sticking out of the ground with plastic over them.

[00:20:41] We're talking about the seagulls?

[00:20:43] Currently, they have been removed and they're being refurbished.

[00:20:46] But come on, they're coming back.

[00:20:48] That's fine, but you got wooden switchbacks.

[00:20:51] You got screens.

[00:20:53] You got lifeguard stand.

[00:20:55] You got a beach setting.

[00:20:56] You got sand versus under the monorail.

[00:20:59] That's fair.

[00:21:01] You got a clever wit about just swell for the width.

[00:21:07] Just swell.

[00:21:09] I mean, if you're trying to argue against the point, that is certainly helping.

[00:21:14] No, I mean, I really do...

[00:21:18] Effort versus lack of effort, that's worth at least a point,

[00:21:22] but Eric keep going and let's see if we can get more than one point out of it.

[00:21:25] Well, let's see here.

[00:21:26] I mean, it's indoors.

[00:21:27] The entire queue is indoors.

[00:21:29] You do...

[00:21:30] Yes, if we're going to talk about...

[00:21:33] If we're going to talk about the Andrew Stanton performed seagulls outside.

[00:21:43] Yes, you do pass beyond a very nice thing.

[00:21:48] But yeah, we'll save that for land impact.

[00:21:50] Inside, it's pleasant.

[00:21:52] It's dark.

[00:21:53] It's cold.

[00:21:54] You do pass multiple displays and at the end, when you pass the beach area,

[00:22:00] you've got rocky walls.

[00:22:02] You've got projected water effects on the walls.

[00:22:05] You've got coral around the area.

[00:22:08] You do have these coral reef sort of effects that make it seem like you're

[00:22:13] descending into the water before you board your clamobile.

[00:22:17] The queue.

[00:22:19] Oh, and before you board, one of these signs reads,

[00:22:23] daily diving departures sponsored by Nemo, nautical exploration and marine

[00:22:29] observation.

[00:22:31] They stole my name.

[00:22:33] Same name.

[00:22:34] This one came out before yours.

[00:22:36] I think we're going to go two points for that.

[00:22:40] Not for that specifically but for the queue because...

[00:22:43] The damage.

[00:22:45] The damage.

[00:22:47] This is one of those situations where it's like,

[00:22:52] I'm not even talking, like I'm talking absolute lack of effort on just the

[00:22:57] right.

[00:22:59] It's just straight up.

[00:23:01] Here's the line.

[00:23:03] The current Atopia has more thought put into it.

[00:23:09] Yeah, good point.

[00:23:11] I was going to say something about it's not California's fault because

[00:23:15] of better weather but you're right.

[00:23:17] The effort wise.

[00:23:19] The other thing, you gave a point for the being able to watch the ride through

[00:23:24] if you're disabled.

[00:23:26] I wonder if that is negated by the fact that anyone can ride the Epcot one.

[00:23:33] It takes a little bit of effort to get out of an electric vehicle or a wheelchair

[00:23:44] into a clamobile but it can happen.

[00:23:48] I think the point is really more about...

[00:23:54] I didn't mean to do this but it's about effort, lack of effort.

[00:23:59] It's like yeah, you could.

[00:24:01] They could shut down the entire ride and not shut it down but they can slow

[00:24:06] it down and you can do the transfer thing and that's totally fine and

[00:24:09] anybody that wants to absolutely should.

[00:24:12] Whereas at Disneyland you could just go, oh that room's for me.

[00:24:17] Cool, I'm going to go in there.

[00:24:19] Yeah, all right.

[00:24:23] Your attention please.

[00:24:25] Shall we talk about the ride itself?

[00:24:38] I would love nothing more.

[00:24:40] Let's do it.

[00:24:41] So once on board through their portholes, guests view a colorful underwater environment.

[00:24:46] One of the first things the guests see is Darla, the niece of dentist P Sherman.

[00:24:51] Well, P Sherman, 27 Wallaby Way.

[00:24:57] Anyway, she's freediving amid the coral holding a plastic bag with a fish that she's captured.

[00:25:06] We all remember that.

[00:25:08] As the journey continues guests see a giant sea bass swimming through a seaweed forest.

[00:25:13] The submarines then enter the ruins of an ancient civilization which are being explored by P Sherman

[00:25:19] and scuba diving.

[00:25:21] Among the ruins lies a gigantic tiki head embedded in the ocean floor.

[00:25:26] The subs then enter a coral reef with many bright reflective colors, giant clams slowly open

[00:25:32] and close as the submarines pass.

[00:25:34] The captain commands the sub to dive much deeper to avoid a surface storm ahead.

[00:25:39] Now it's important to note that most of the dialogue in this version which I guess is on Australia,

[00:25:45] Tomorrowland Australia.

[00:25:48] There's a lot of the dialogue that just like however many degrees forward that kind of stuff

[00:25:53] is all kind of borrowed from the original attraction.

[00:25:57] At this point the submarine travels through a waterfall and enters the hidden ride building

[00:26:01] where guests find themselves apparently moving through underwater caverns.

[00:26:05] The captain announces that due to advancements in marine technology,

[00:26:09] much like the original attraction, they can use sonar hydrophones to hear the fish talk.

[00:26:16] This is where we get effectively a book report from the original movie.

[00:26:22] The sub passes through a dark cavern where huge eels lunge toward it and lobsters can also be seen.

[00:26:27] The sub passes a marlin, a clownfish and dory, a blue tang as they discover that Nemo has gotten lost again.

[00:26:35] Oh no, not again.

[00:26:37] I wonder if they're going to go through the same adventures they did the first time.

[00:26:41] Well that's how you find Nemo.

[00:26:43] That's right.

[00:26:44] That's the only way.

[00:26:45] Farther along the reef guests encounter Mr. Ray, a stingray and his class swimming through the coral looking for Nemo as well.

[00:26:52] Hold on, I'm sorry.

[00:26:53] The first mate...

[00:26:54] Is this actually presented as he's missing again?

[00:26:57] Yeah.

[00:26:58] Oh god.

[00:26:59] It's the same as Eric's right.

[00:27:00] Oh yeah.

[00:27:01] It's the same thing.

[00:27:02] Yeah, Marlin literally says, oh no, he's lost again.

[00:27:05] Again.

[00:27:06] Can I just on principle take away...

[00:27:10] By the way, it happens at both.

[00:27:12] Same exact thing.

[00:27:13] I know, I know.

[00:27:14] Same exact thing.

[00:27:15] But I need my spite to be recognized by this.

[00:27:18] Okay, all right.

[00:27:19] So I'm going to give each of you a point for punishment for the other one.

[00:27:26] What?

[00:27:27] I'll...

[00:27:28] The dead one.

[00:27:29] There we go.

[00:27:30] I'll reverse those points in post.

[00:27:33] Maybe.

[00:27:34] The first mate announces that the sub is approaching the East Australian current and the submarine enters the current along with Nemo, Squirt,

[00:27:43] Trash, and other green sea turtles.

[00:27:45] It's a fun effect in the ride.

[00:27:47] It's kind of nice.

[00:27:49] The sub then exits the current and enters a graveyard of sunken ships.

[00:27:54] Jock, a cleaner shrimp, and Blenny, a worried green fish can both be seen nearby while Marlin and Dory continue their search for Nemo.

[00:28:03] Bruce, a great white shark, and Chum, a short fin Mako shark swim inside a sunken submarine surrounded by mines.

[00:28:11] The submarine hits one of the mines, causing all the mines to explode and the sub to shake and temporarily lose power.

[00:28:18] As the sub goes dark, Marlin and Dory are surrounded by small glowing lights which turn out to be phosphorescent lights on several huge deep sea angler fish.

[00:28:28] After they escape the creatures, they make their way through the forest of jellyfish.

[00:28:33] The submarine reaches the active deep sea volcano.

[00:28:36] Gil, a Moorish idol, bloat of puffer fish, gurgle a royal grandma, bubbles, and not grandma by the way,

[00:28:44] bubbles, yellow tang, and Squirt chant as lava flows down the volcano's sides while Marlin and Dory finally reunite with Nemo.

[00:28:53] Hooray!

[00:28:54] And to their credit that scene takes place in the fish tank.

[00:28:59] Fish tank.

[00:29:00] So they did make some changes.

[00:29:01] Wanna haka-loo-gee.

[00:29:03] The volcano erupts just as the sub escapes and returns to the reef.

[00:29:07] The fish gather around and celebrate finding Nemo once again.

[00:29:11] Suddenly a pot of humpback whales appears and one of them swallows both Dory and the submarine,

[00:29:18] which I thought was kind of a fun little effect reminiscent of Storybookland canal boats.

[00:29:23] Dory swims about trying to understand the whales vocalizations.

[00:29:27] After a few moments, the whale shoots the submarine and Dory out through its blowhole,

[00:29:32] which is kind of fun.

[00:29:33] You're coming out of the show building and so it gets lighter.

[00:29:37] That gets a point.

[00:29:39] That's a clever moment.

[00:29:41] Dory then mistakes the sub for a big yellow whale and speaks whale saying goodbye.

[00:29:50] The captain tells the first mate not to enter anything that has happened into the ship's log because nobody would believe it anyway.

[00:29:57] He then says they should bring the sub up to the surface before we have a run-in with a sea serpent or an encounter with a mermaid.

[00:30:05] Fun nod to the original attraction and if you look in the ride's rock formations,

[00:30:10] you will find one is shaped like a sea serpent's head and the other shaped like a mermaid.

[00:30:16] It's in the rock work.

[00:30:18] I know you're waiting for a point.

[00:30:19] I'm just saying the sub then surfaces and reenters the harbor where a pair of king crabs snap at air bubbles

[00:30:25] coming from sewage pipe.

[00:30:27] An instrumental version of Kevin Spacey's Beyond the Sea plays as the submarine docks and the captain thanks the passengers for riding.

[00:30:37] Somewhere beyond the sea.

[00:30:49] Here's just a fascinating feeling that I have.

[00:30:52] I know you described the entire thing.

[00:30:56] Right.

[00:30:57] It feels so much longer.

[00:31:00] There's a lot of, I mean I described all the scenes but there's a lot of slow moving in between things.

[00:31:06] I read through the P Sherman and the little girl with the fish.

[00:31:10] That's like five minutes of the ride to get from one vignette to the other.

[00:31:15] It's slow.

[00:31:16] And that first part is I have to say it is lovely especially at night.

[00:31:21] Yeah.

[00:31:22] In fact you didn't, okay Jimmy say something about how it looks different at night.

[00:31:31] It looks different at night.

[00:31:33] There we go that's a point.

[00:31:35] Don't worry Eric.

[00:31:39] So before I don't want to spoiler it but I guess I can wait for it but effectively Eric's version of the ride is exactly what I just said.

[00:31:52] But it's presented in a very, very different way.

[00:31:55] Exactly.

[00:32:00] And you mentioned caverns and I didn't, so the elephant in the room for me with this specific ride is, and I told you this in the chat, I think it's way too long but they can't really control the speed of it.

[00:32:17] But they can choose what they show you, right?

[00:32:20] True.

[00:32:21] And a lot of the projection effects are so close to you that by like minute two it's like oh that part's not water anymore or that part's that or that.

[00:32:34] And I understand that there are some parts especially at the beginning where like the caverns are a transitional thing but as you were talking about it I was just thinking the whole time about how like there's so much stuff that is so close to you that it kind of ruins the effect really early on.

[00:32:59] So you're saying just by having your face close to the glass?

[00:33:03] Yeah.

[00:33:04] And I think that if they would have moved like for example the shark scene, if they would have moved all of those things like three feet away from you.

[00:33:12] What do you mean it's not water anymore?

[00:33:14] Like you mean the screens aren't water?

[00:33:16] There's a point where you're, I feel like you're underwater the whole time.

[00:33:22] Yeah, you're underwater the whole time.

[00:33:24] But not all the scenes are underwater from what I can tell.

[00:33:28] The submarine is submerged in the same level of water the entire ride.

[00:33:32] Are all of the scenes are all of the show scenes also underwater?

[00:33:37] Yeah.

[00:33:38] Yeah.

[00:33:39] It doesn't look like it.

[00:33:41] Well you think there are fish swimming around in the air?

[00:33:44] Yeah, no.

[00:33:47] I could be wrong I've never figured out how this ride works and where the water is or isn't.

[00:33:54] The water level is always exactly the same.

[00:33:58] And you're looking at these projection screens through water.

[00:34:02] Now how the projections are the projection screens submerged underwater?

[00:34:08] I don't know.

[00:34:09] I don't think they are.

[00:34:10] They may not be but that means there's a plate of glass that's holding in the water from the lagoon.

[00:34:17] Yeah, that's what I'm picturing.

[00:34:19] It may be I don't know.

[00:34:21] And I did a bunch of searches about how they do the projection.

[00:34:25] I have no idea.

[00:34:26] Okay.

[00:34:27] What I feel is more impressive is the projections on the actual aquarium in Upcom.

[00:34:35] That is just mind boggling to me.

[00:34:37] Short of just screens.

[00:34:40] Right.

[00:34:41] Yeah, and I guess what I'm saying is that like this ride and if you can come up with some sort of argument for her against or why it's on a problem.

[00:34:51] This ride you're in a submarine and you're going through such tight spaces.

[00:34:56] And I understand, you know, what do you call when you just say, oh no.

[00:35:04] First perspective?

[00:35:05] What are you going for here?

[00:35:07] No, suspension of disbelief.

[00:35:09] I understand that suspicion of disbelief is necessary but you're so...

[00:35:19] I feel like things are too close and I know that they have the room to push them at least like a few feet further in some cases.

[00:35:27] Hmm, I think Dan you don't have enough experience with the Florida version to make that argument.

[00:35:36] Maybe.

[00:35:37] Because the only difference for me and Eric correct me if I'm wrong, the only difference between these two rides, short of some different like scenery and whatever is the fact that you're physically open.

[00:35:48] You're not going to be underwater in one and you're never underwater in the other.

[00:35:52] But otherwise it's the same exact ride.

[00:35:54] It's very similar, there are some differences.

[00:35:57] Well obviously there are differences you're not seeing mermaid rocks and you're not going into a whale's mouth that kind of thing.

[00:36:02] There are differences but the fundamental core of the ride is redoing the movie.

[00:36:07] The gimmick of the projection onto a thing is easier to do.

[00:36:12] You're just as close to those projection screens in Epcot as you are in Disneyland.

[00:36:20] But my point is it looks different.

[00:36:24] And I'm not a physicist or whatever those people are called.

[00:36:29] I'm just saying that in my experience riding the thing, it looks just off.

[00:36:38] The dimensions feel off.

[00:36:41] That's not a negative point necessarily.

[00:36:44] It's just the thing to think about or a thing to talk about since you're talking about the ride.

[00:36:49] But I also think that, I get what you're saying about there.

[00:36:53] The actual show elements are essentially the same.

[00:36:56] Right.

[00:36:57] But they're presented in a very different way.

[00:37:02] And I'm not going to go into what's better or worse but I think that the one at the land,

[00:37:12] first of all, it's not like a two minute load process.

[00:37:15] Sorry, I might do that a lot.

[00:37:18] Not on purpose.

[00:37:21] Perhaps we can go in that direction.

[00:37:25] You know what?

[00:37:26] That's a wonderful idea.

[00:37:29] Eric, tell me about what I'm going to say.

[00:37:33] Tell me what I should do.

[00:37:36] The version of what I was going to say that is most favorable to your side.

[00:37:40] All right.

[00:37:41] Great.

[00:37:42] Well, you reach the end of the queue and you board your clam mobile.

[00:37:46] The clam mobiles are a clean.

[00:37:49] Ugly.

[00:37:50] I have to say they're ugly.

[00:37:53] Sorry.

[00:37:56] It's not a negative point.

[00:37:57] I'm just saying it's not quite the same as a, you know, doom buggy or anything where it kind of turns it.

[00:38:06] Well, it turns to face you and the door opens in the middle.

[00:38:10] So you walk in with your other person and you sit down and then the door closes in the middle.

[00:38:17] So it's not quite the, I'll close the bar for you.

[00:38:24] You know, it's a clam shell with a smaller clam shell in front of it.

[00:38:31] I don't know.

[00:38:33] I think the thing that strikes me as weird about it when I was watching the video was, I've been on it before.

[00:38:41] It's just been a while, was that, you know, you have, I think one of the things that is a real draw about this attraction is it is, it feels, they make more of an effort, I think for place making like with the queue.

[00:39:01] And they're also dealing with the fact that you are about to see a bunch of real fishies.

[00:39:06] And so like they have, there's kind of an extra layer of like we kind of have to take this a little bit more seriously because it's Epcot.

[00:39:17] And then having a little cartoony clam shell is just like, that's a weird choice.

[00:39:22] Yeah.

[00:39:23] Do, is it, is it, is it point worthy that one of these is a pretty much a submarine and the other is an Omni Mover?

[00:39:33] Is there, is that enough of a thing for you?

[00:39:37] I don't want to promote the other attraction, but I've always loved the feeling of going in one of those subs.

[00:39:45] I think we got there previously when it was about the submarines are themselves more impressive in that they exist.

[00:39:53] Okay, all right.

[00:39:55] Well, board your claymobile and join all of your friends who many, many of whom sound just a little different than they used to.

[00:40:05] You pass realistic looking coral displays with screens.

[00:40:11] So you start out Mr. Ray and the kids, the school realize that Nemo is heading out to see the kids are saying, oh no, Nemo is heading out to see.

[00:40:22] And they're swimming around and then they realize, oh no, Nemo is lost again.

[00:40:29] Marlon is Lurt.

[00:40:32] Oh my goodness.

[00:40:34] Oh no.

[00:40:35] Oh no, I just realized he's searching.

[00:40:37] Oh no what?

[00:40:38] I just realized something.

[00:40:40] Nemo is going out to see, which gives us a reason to go where we're going, which is the sea.

[00:40:50] Except that we find them before we get there.

[00:40:53] But he does go all the way to...

[00:40:57] Do they find him before we get there?

[00:40:59] Yeah.

[00:41:00] He does the EAC in both versions, doesn't he?

[00:41:04] Yeah.

[00:41:05] And goes all the way to Australia.

[00:41:09] I'm just saying that in terms of having it be narrative, Nemo is going out to the sea.

[00:41:20] We have to follow him and find him.

[00:41:22] And that's what gets us to the sea.

[00:41:25] I think it's a stretch, Eric.

[00:41:27] I'm not trying to argue against you.

[00:41:28] I would not have made that argument.

[00:41:30] No, I don't think that's a stretch.

[00:41:34] I think in terms of...

[00:41:37] I'm not stretching to make this point at all.

[00:41:40] I think that just works for me, where it's like, oh, he went off to sea.

[00:41:44] Where the other one is just like, oh, Nemo, help us have an overlay for this old dead ride.

[00:41:50] It makes it...

[00:41:52] In that context, full disclosure, I don't think either of these need...

[00:41:58] I find them whimsical.

[00:42:00] They're kind of cute.

[00:42:01] I don't hate that they exist, but if they had never existed, I wouldn't have asked for them.

[00:42:07] But Dan, your point is they're both just cute overlays for a dead attraction.

[00:42:12] Pretty much.

[00:42:13] But chasing after Nemo into the sea gives us a reason to get on the ride.

[00:42:21] But we're already on the ride.

[00:42:24] Narratively.

[00:42:26] We have a thing to do.

[00:42:28] We get on the ride, Dan, and then Nemo runs away.

[00:42:32] Yeah, he doesn't like us.

[00:42:33] In both cases.

[00:42:35] So there's no reason for us to get on the ride.

[00:42:37] Yeah, but on the submarines it's like...

[00:42:40] Both are arguing why this is less important for us.

[00:42:45] I think it's Dan Plover, because we're going out to the sea.

[00:42:50] Now we're in the sea, like the pavilion, the sea.

[00:42:53] We're in the sea now, because Nemo got lost and took us there.

[00:42:59] Because we had to find him, and in finding him we went to the sea with Nemo and his friends,

[00:43:04] some might say.

[00:43:05] Where with the submarine it's like...

[00:43:08] Jimmy, you're muted.

[00:43:09] With the submarine it's like...

[00:43:11] I'm going to get on the submarine.

[00:43:13] Okay, I'm going to watch this thing, and now we're back.

[00:43:15] Okay, now they found Nemo.

[00:43:17] Bye, friends.

[00:43:18] Now I'm just back where I was.

[00:43:19] I guess they don't necessarily come back in the narrative of the ride.

[00:43:25] Well, let me set...

[00:43:28] Okay, so in the submarine, the conceit is you are going to get on a submarine to go explore

[00:43:37] an underwater volcano.

[00:43:39] Along the way you see some of the friends from the movie.

[00:43:43] You have sonar hydrophones so you can hear what the fish are saying.

[00:43:46] And you have the same experience that the Epcot one has.

[00:43:50] Right.

[00:43:51] And then, oh, all this crazy stuff, you get swallowed by a whale.

[00:43:54] Let's go back.

[00:43:55] Okay?

[00:43:56] Yeah, all this wacky stuff happens to you while you're doing this other thing.

[00:44:01] This one, you are going to find Nemo.

[00:44:04] That is the whole reason you're there.

[00:44:06] I don't think that's true, Eric.

[00:44:08] Is it?

[00:44:09] Is there a conceit for Epcot?

[00:44:11] No, and it's not like the old days where you were specifically going to sea base

[00:44:16] alpha, which is now just called sea base.

[00:44:19] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:44:23] You're not really boarding these vessels for a specific purpose.

[00:44:28] You're seeing a little bit in the queue that says, hey, here are your friends,

[00:44:32] they're fish, and we're underwater, and we're going to go to a place...

[00:44:38] Maybe.

[00:44:39] I don't know.

[00:44:41] I mean, if I'm reading too much, if I'm off, Eric, it's your point to...

[00:44:47] It's only going to be one point anyway.

[00:44:49] But if you think I'm off base, if I'm reading something into this and all the

[00:44:55] listeners are like, oh, God, he's doing it again, I will take ownership of that.

[00:45:00] I can be that person.

[00:45:02] I legitimately see something in that.

[00:45:05] But if I'm wrong, I'll accept being wrong.

[00:45:09] Well, I don't think there's that much intention for sure.

[00:45:12] Agreed.

[00:45:13] I think that's the point.

[00:45:14] If you land there, that's fine.

[00:45:16] And I'm not going to argue against it, but I don't think there's a story in

[00:45:21] Epcot like there is a little bit in California.

[00:45:25] I think it's...

[00:45:26] I'm still going to give it a point for being, at the very least, a convenient

[00:45:33] coincidence.

[00:45:36] Because it's not not there.

[00:45:39] I just don't know how much intention is there.

[00:45:41] Yeah.

[00:45:42] The deadly.

[00:45:44] Have we talked about the sounds?

[00:45:46] I mean, it's been a few episodes.

[00:45:48] You can listen to the old episodes.

[00:45:49] Okay, great.

[00:45:50] Go do that.

[00:45:52] All right.

[00:45:53] Well, yeah.

[00:45:54] So Nemo is lost again.

[00:45:55] Marlin is searching for Nemo with Dory who actually sees Nemo swimming

[00:46:00] around.

[00:46:01] They are projections on a wall.

[00:46:04] And you go around a corner and an angler fish pops out of the dark

[00:46:09] and scares the fish.

[00:46:10] And you, as Marlin swims away from the angler fish, each figure is on

[00:46:15] a separate robotic arm.

[00:46:17] So they have, they are their practical effects that exist in the

[00:46:22] movement in the air because you're not underwater in this

[00:46:27] attraction.

[00:46:28] Let's see.

[00:46:30] Continue into darkness where you find a submarine wreck in a

[00:46:34] minefield very similar to the other one.

[00:46:37] Nemo is hiding and the two sharks Chum and Bruce are trying

[00:46:41] to get him to come out.

[00:46:43] They say some of their classic lines like fish are friends

[00:46:46] not food swim over here.

[00:46:48] And doesn't want an animatronic.

[00:46:50] Am I remembering correctly?

[00:46:52] I was going to say the same thing.

[00:46:55] I think there's a physical charm.

[00:46:57] I want to say just physical.

[00:46:59] Yeah, yeah.

[00:47:00] It's one of them out of a porthole.

[00:47:02] Right.

[00:47:03] Right.

[00:47:04] Yeah.

[00:47:05] So there's a lot of, a lot of practical effects and that this

[00:47:07] portion of the ride, if you remember from the previous

[00:47:09] episode, this is where the ride is going.

[00:47:12] The, the Omni mover is going through the one of the two

[00:47:15] pre-show theaters.

[00:47:18] So part of this attraction is built into this area where you're

[00:47:23] not in the aquarium.

[00:47:26] So you leave the aquarium, you go back into the aquarium.

[00:47:29] Some of the port portions of this ride where you're,

[00:47:35] you're heading through your in basically the aquarium port,

[00:47:39] the original aquarium tunnels that were part of the

[00:47:41] original attraction, but they're all basically boarded up

[00:47:45] and projected on.

[00:47:48] So you can't see into the aquarium for most of it.

[00:47:51] Yeah.

[00:47:53] It's a whole thing.

[00:47:55] My memory is that, and this is my memory of the video

[00:47:59] that I watched.

[00:48:00] I didn't check the date.

[00:48:01] I should have.

[00:48:02] Is that you start to see underwater projections pretty

[00:48:05] early on.

[00:48:06] Yeah.

[00:48:07] And then you kind of leave that area.

[00:48:09] Okay.

[00:48:10] Okay.

[00:48:11] And you head into practical effects that make you feel like

[00:48:15] you're underwater, but you're not.

[00:48:20] Okay.

[00:48:21] I really like that angler thing.

[00:48:25] I'm going to hold the point.

[00:48:26] I'm holding on to that point.

[00:48:27] Okay.

[00:48:28] Yeah.

[00:48:29] The angler is a nice feature and the only real reason that

[00:48:34] I found is to...

[00:48:35] The angler fish is in both.

[00:48:37] Right.

[00:48:38] But...

[00:48:39] And it's a practical effect in both.

[00:48:42] But it doesn't like move around like a scary monster.

[00:48:47] No, it does not.

[00:48:48] It's stationary and it flashes.

[00:48:49] Yeah.

[00:48:50] The only reason I have found that the...

[00:48:54] When it comes to the sharks, there aren't three is

[00:48:57] because the third shark wasn't available.

[00:49:00] Hmm.

[00:49:01] To record at the time they were doing this.

[00:49:04] Don't worry.

[00:49:07] We'll get to the voice cast soon.

[00:49:10] If you like lists, I've got lists.

[00:49:13] Let's see.

[00:49:15] And then you head through the East Australian current,

[00:49:18] which is projected on the walls with bubbles and crush

[00:49:21] and squirt and Nemo are swimming through...

[00:49:25] Sorry, crush and squirt and Marlon, not Nemo.

[00:49:30] Then...

[00:49:31] This effect is very reminiscent of the Tron...

[00:49:35] What is the...

[00:49:36] Oh, I'm trying to remember.

[00:49:38] The people mover, the speed tunnel.

[00:49:41] Yeah, the speed tunnel.

[00:49:42] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:49:43] And I concede that the effect on Epcot's version of the AAC

[00:49:49] is more impactful because it's all screen projection in both

[00:49:54] but they have that spinning effect

[00:49:55] and you're in the middle of that spinning effect.

[00:49:57] Do you actually feel that a little bit?

[00:49:59] It does give a...

[00:50:00] Yeah, it gives an impression of speed for sure.

[00:50:03] Jimmy, you had me at Tron speed tunnel.

[00:50:06] So I'm going to award some random points here.

[00:50:10] One point to the C for the Tron thing.

[00:50:21] And if I can give a point to subs for the whale thing...

[00:50:27] No, no, no.

[00:50:29] Okay, here's where I'm stuck.

[00:50:31] I really...

[00:50:32] I love the Angler, the animatronic Angler thing

[00:50:35] and I feel like if I had seen that as a child,

[00:50:37] it would have terrified me.

[00:50:39] It's pretty big.

[00:50:41] And I don't know if that isn't true for the Angler scene on the subs.

[00:50:47] Hmm.

[00:50:48] But my hunch is that for my...

[00:50:54] specifically for my child brain,

[00:50:57] I would have identified that Angler thing as terrifying

[00:51:00] and identified that there's a mechanical thing behind it

[00:51:04] and immediately gotten more terrified by the mechanical thing attached to it.

[00:51:09] Hmm, okay.

[00:51:11] I don't know...

[00:51:13] I don't think it's fair to give that a point.

[00:51:15] I really want to, but I think...

[00:51:17] I don't think it's fair to do that.

[00:51:19] Okay, okay.

[00:51:21] I think...

[00:51:25] Oh, and subs at Disneyland get a point for real bubbles

[00:51:29] and says fake projected bubbles.

[00:51:31] Oh, real bubbles are cool.

[00:51:33] Real bubbles are pretty cool.

[00:51:35] It's like under my smell.

[00:51:37] I do like that effect.

[00:51:38] I always loved that when you would move into the building

[00:51:40] and you were quote diving and it would get darker.

[00:51:44] I love that effect, yeah.

[00:51:48] Yeah, I think I'm good with all that.

[00:51:50] Okay.

[00:51:51] My dogs are going insane right now.

[00:51:57] My dogs agree.

[00:51:58] Yeah, yeah.

[00:52:03] They're gonna start barking jingle bells.

[00:52:05] Are they gonna start a podcast?

[00:52:07] Yes.

[00:52:09] You're gonna have a new podcast.

[00:52:11] It's called Dogs Barking.

[00:52:16] It'll be on the Ears Up Network 2024.

[00:52:21] A weekly podcast for Dogs Bark.

[00:52:24] You'll love it.

[00:52:27] He's chasing that desperate for content at this point.

[00:52:31] Why don't you just give me some Dogs Barking?

[00:52:34] There we go.

[00:52:36] All right.

[00:52:37] I'm surprised he hasn't given an atrocious show yet.

[00:52:40] I mean, he's just so real and cool.

[00:52:43] They're related.

[00:52:46] You're right.

[00:52:47] He's his nephew.

[00:52:48] He gave a show to his other nephew, right?

[00:52:53] Oh, that's right.

[00:52:55] That means that Asher is the less favorite nephew.

[00:52:57] I never even thought about that.

[00:52:59] That's unfortunate.

[00:53:00] All right.

[00:53:01] Let's continue.

[00:53:03] Let's see.

[00:53:04] So suddenly you're next to a giant aquarium window.

[00:53:07] Nemo and his friends are projected onto the glass to look like they're swimming with real fish.

[00:53:13] And they are singing in the big blue world, which is a song.

[00:53:19] Jimmy's gonna say it was written for the Finding Nemo the Musical at Disney's Animal Kingdom,

[00:53:28] which started previews on November 5th, 2006 and opened on January 24th, 2007,

[00:53:37] which was after this ride debuted.

[00:53:40] So this is a song written for a musical that had not yet debuted.

[00:53:46] And they premiered it basically on this ride.

[00:53:51] Yeah.

[00:53:52] A couple of things I want to point out.

[00:53:53] I love the continuity between the in the resort with the Finding Nemo musical, which I love.

[00:54:00] It's my dolphin show, Tears Every Time.

[00:54:04] It's Bobby and Kristen Lopez, Tony Award-winning composers.

[00:54:09] And loyal listeners to the show will remember the original Nemo was a guest on this show from that musical.

[00:54:16] You should listen to that episode because surprisingly no one has.

[00:54:21] Yeah.

[00:54:22] It was really good.

[00:54:23] What episode was that?

[00:54:24] Let me find out.

[00:54:25] It was the case of the second gate.

[00:54:29] Because it was Frozen versus Nemo, yeah.

[00:54:31] Frozen versus Nemo is the second gate theme park stage shows that Bobby and Kristen Lopez wrote.

[00:54:38] Mm-hmm.

[00:54:39] Right.

[00:54:40] Something like that.

[00:54:41] This is a very elaborate title.

[00:54:42] But the two things that I'll say about this.

[00:54:44] Now first of all, I know we're not done, but I believe the submarines execute this story better.

[00:54:50] You're underwater the whole time.

[00:54:52] There's an execution, there's a continuity, there's a story.

[00:54:55] The projection of these animated figures inside of the aquarium is like magic to me.

[00:55:03] And the fact that they brought that song into the attraction, which is a wonderful song from Wonderful Musical,

[00:55:09] those two things alone are outstanding despite the fact that I feel like submarine voyage executes the story better.

[00:55:19] You've basically made my point.

[00:55:22] The whole thing behind seeing these animated fish swim around with actual fish is really interesting.

[00:55:32] And it's not bad in the subs to see the fish swimming around.

[00:55:36] You've got your head in your little port hole and it's nice.

[00:55:39] It's nice, but it's not quite as amazing looking as looking across like five feet away from you.

[00:55:46] There is a giant aquarium, one of the world's largest aquariums with...

[00:55:52] Sixth largest in the world.

[00:55:53] There you go.

[00:55:54] With actual fish swimming around.

[00:55:56] And then you've got these animated fish that are your friends swimming in it.

[00:56:01] It's pretty fantastic.

[00:56:04] And as you depart, you get to hear them singing the song in a loop and you get to hear Alice and Janney as the starfish commenting on things.

[00:56:16] Hasn't she kind of lost it like the character?

[00:56:20] What's that?

[00:56:21] Hasn't the character kind of lost it in that scene?

[00:56:24] It's kind of crazy.

[00:56:25] She breaks the fourth wall at one point, Eric.

[00:56:28] Yeah.

[00:56:29] Like for the amount of time it takes for each ride vehicle group to pass.

[00:56:35] It's like 17 seconds or something.

[00:56:38] I forget what it is, but it's very funny.

[00:56:40] She talks directly to you.

[00:56:42] I don't think that that necessarily is point worthy.

[00:56:47] And I love that they have an original song and I like that it...

[00:56:52] That the song itself gives you a sense of arrival.

[00:56:56] Which again, goes back to my other friend or whatever.

[00:57:03] However, it goes on that...

[00:57:06] The loop on that is far too long, but those two things combine at one point.

[00:57:11] For me, right?

[00:57:13] For you.

[00:57:14] The devil.

[00:57:16] Would you like to hear an exhaustive list of all the voice actors?

[00:57:23] Yes, please.

[00:57:24] Hold on.

[00:57:25] Did you talk about the...

[00:57:30] Sorry, the language part of my brain is the first to go.

[00:57:33] You disembark at the sea base and you're inside the sea base

[00:57:36] and that's apparently another episode that we're going to do someday, maybe?

[00:57:40] Yes.

[00:57:41] Because of Total Talk.

[00:57:43] Call me a baby.

[00:57:46] Jellyfish.

[00:57:48] Are there not jellyfish above you?

[00:57:50] Oh, oh yes.

[00:57:52] That is in one of the physical scenes that's inside the theater.

[00:57:55] I did neglect to mention them.

[00:57:57] They are hanging above you, their neon and in black light.

[00:58:01] Yeah.

[00:58:04] It's one of those things that makes you feel a little bit like you're actually under the sea.

[00:58:11] I think that is where I'm coming to with this

[00:58:18] is that I think I'm drawn to the sea a little bit more,

[00:58:24] at least for now, because it feels more like an actual ride kind of.

[00:58:31] I don't know.

[00:58:32] I mean, you're right, Jimmy.

[00:58:33] The subs do tell the story better,

[00:58:36] but I don't know that the story needs to be a theme park ride at all.

[00:58:40] Well, but that's true for both.

[00:58:42] Yeah.

[00:58:43] Right.

[00:58:44] I don't think that the subs tell the Nemo story better.

[00:58:47] I think the Nemo story happens within a story of you going to explore an underwater volcano.

[00:58:54] Right.

[00:58:55] That's the whole point of this.

[00:58:56] The whole point of the subs is you're in a sub and you're going to do a weird new version of the original subs.

[00:59:03] Yes, you're going to underwater volcano and along the way when you listen to your sonar hydrophones,

[00:59:08] you come across these scenes that happen within a story.

[00:59:14] I'm not saying that's better or worse.

[00:59:17] I just wanted to clarify.

[00:59:18] No, no, you're right.

[00:59:19] I get what you're saying.

[00:59:20] I just I keep coming back to this idea of the like the subs and I don't know if I'm going to explain this well,

[00:59:28] but it feels like the subs kind of are like, yeah, they tell the story better,

[00:59:34] but they're also kind of burdened by being like being a reason to still exist.

[00:59:43] Therefore, that reason to still exist is to have the story shoehorned in whereas with the seas,

[00:59:49] it's like, okay, here's the thing we can do and a thing that already exists to make it to really showcase

[00:59:59] what we can do and just kind of have fun with it.

[01:00:04] I don't know if I'm entirely there yet, but it just listen, you're the judge.

[01:00:11] They're both shoehorned.

[01:00:12] Yeah, well, I mean, they're both shoehorned.

[01:00:15] But I think with the seas, the shoehorn is because well, first of all,

[01:00:20] the load time isn't like 15 minutes and also and the ride itself is shorter.

[01:00:28] It feels like, yeah, it's I'm more willing to to accept that shoehorn as like,

[01:00:36] okay, this is actually kind of fun where every time I ride the subs at about the right about the jellyfish scene.

[01:00:46] I'm like, oh, God, there's more.

[01:00:48] Okay. You know, that's just kind of where I'm at right now.

[01:00:56] I don't know that that's the decision.

[01:00:57] It takes 11 minutes to get around the loop.

[01:01:00] The capacity is 900 people per hour, which is very low.

[01:01:05] Pretty poor.

[01:01:06] It takes forever.

[01:01:07] And that brings up another problem that I have with this.

[01:01:09] I love that the subs are still there.

[01:01:11] Don't get me wrong.

[01:01:12] Oh yeah, love the subs.

[01:01:14] But should they really still be there in a park where space is at such a premium?

[01:01:23] Hey, they took out the Utopia right next door.

[01:01:25] Well, yeah, exactly.

[01:01:26] On top of.

[01:01:28] And I think that might be a big part of it.

[01:01:30] And I will get to that part later.

[01:01:33] Also, if they changed the subs that the Matterhorn would fall into the sea.

[01:01:38] 100%.

[01:01:39] That's right.

[01:01:40] Yeah, collapse.

[01:01:41] And like, I suspect that the reason why the line for the subs is always pretty long

[01:01:47] is not because it's super popular.

[01:01:49] I think it just takes that long to live.

[01:01:51] The capacity, absolutely.

[01:01:54] Anyway, just some thoughts, some things to throw around, throw back at me or whatever.

[01:01:59] I just that's just kind of where I'm at right now.

[01:02:01] Yeah, I think we're kind of in the middle of a thing and we're not quite there yet.

[01:02:06] But middle Lord.

[01:02:08] Oh yeah.

[01:02:09] All right, let's hear about some some actors because this is what you tune into this

[01:02:15] show for is an exhaustive list of people.

[01:02:20] So I found a website behind the voice actors.com which

[01:02:26] I've never encountered before.

[01:02:28] Oh, I'm afraid during the strike cannot allow to speak about actors work.

[01:02:32] Oh, I guess Jimmy Jimmy needs to go to bed sooner.

[01:02:36] All right.

[01:02:37] Okay, that's it everybody.

[01:02:39] No, you're not an actor.

[01:02:40] You can do whatever you want.

[01:02:42] You're not in the guild.

[01:02:43] You do what you want.

[01:02:44] Okay, I am not.

[01:02:45] I don't pay dues.

[01:02:46] I don't get paid for my voice acting and I certainly don't get paid by ears up

[01:02:51] hyphen podcast.com.

[01:02:54] All right, so we've got let's start with the cast here.

[01:02:57] We've got Nemo who is played by Anthony DeMarco who played the nephew in

[01:03:07] the prestige in 2006 movie the prestige in the movie he was played by Alexander

[01:03:14] Gould.

[01:03:15] He's just a kid who recorded a voice.

[01:03:20] You know who else was in the prestige?

[01:03:23] Huge Ackerman.

[01:03:25] Yes, huge, huge Jackman was awesome.

[01:03:28] And so is David Bowie.

[01:03:29] By the way, since we since I made the huge Jackman joke, I just want to

[01:03:33] say I've been such a good boy.

[01:03:36] You have said port hole so many times.

[01:03:40] I have not.

[01:03:41] He has not giggled at all.

[01:03:43] I've been giggling on the inside constantly.

[01:03:46] David Bowie played Nikola Tesla in that film.

[01:03:49] Yeah, that's a good movie.

[01:03:51] Go see it.

[01:03:52] It was a great movie.

[01:03:53] I loved it.

[01:03:54] I still have a ticket for that movie in one of my jackets.

[01:03:57] Oh, you should use it and watch it.

[01:04:00] Spoilers he was the clock the whole time.

[01:04:03] Oh no.

[01:04:04] What?

[01:04:05] I have two tickets for the marvels on Friday and the person I bought

[01:04:09] the other ticket for can't go.

[01:04:12] Is it Dan or is it me?

[01:04:15] Well, it's either one of you if you want to fly out here.

[01:04:17] I just he had a conflict and it's at four o'clock on a Friday and

[01:04:23] Oh, Eastern time.

[01:04:24] Oh, that's too early.

[01:04:25] Yeah, I think I'm going to go by myself.

[01:04:27] I'd have to leave work at like 9am.

[01:04:30] Anyway, continue with your.

[01:04:34] Marlin.

[01:04:35] You should bring a mannequin with you.

[01:04:37] What's that?

[01:04:38] It should be like you should bring a mannequin with you.

[01:04:40] So it's not weird.

[01:04:41] There you go.

[01:04:42] Can you can you get on the tool way in the?

[01:04:51] Yeah, with the car poling the car poling.

[01:04:54] I'm way more tickled by that joke than I should be.

[01:04:57] Should be just next to him again.

[01:05:02] So it's not weird.

[01:05:03] Right.

[01:05:04] Obviously.

[01:05:05] That's not weird.

[01:05:06] Well, in the original movie finding Nemo,

[01:05:13] some guy named Albert Brooks played Marlin.

[01:05:16] But in the in the the attraction and in so many other things,

[01:05:25] Jess Harnell played Marlin.

[01:05:27] Jess Harnell is a very prolific voice actor.

[01:05:32] He played Wacko Warner and the Animaniacs crash bandicoot in

[01:05:36] those games where crash bandicoot was a crash bandicoot.

[01:05:39] Scuttle the seagull in that new Once Upon a Time once upon a

[01:05:43] studio short, the one that everybody was crying about a

[01:05:46] few weeks ago.

[01:05:47] It was it was pretty good.

[01:05:49] I didn't cry, but it was pretty good.

[01:05:51] You're talking about the people crying that Walt Disney had

[01:05:54] slightly darker skin than they feel like they should have.

[01:05:57] That was that.

[01:05:58] Yes, he was to some people were crying about that and

[01:06:01] those people got made fun of.

[01:06:03] Well, he also played Roger Rabbit in the Disney sing along

[01:06:08] songs VHS cassettes.

[01:06:10] If you remember those, he also played Roger Rabbit in

[01:06:15] Mickey's Starland show, which ran in Mickey's Starland for

[01:06:19] the few years that that was open in the Magic Kingdom.

[01:06:22] That was 1990 to 1996.

[01:06:24] We'll have to find a way to shoehorn that into this

[01:06:26] show at some point.

[01:06:28] He also played the Wicked Witch of the West in several

[01:06:31] productions of the Wizard of Oz in upland California.

[01:06:37] I'm into that true story and also true story.

[01:06:42] He was many voices in Splash Mountain.

[01:06:45] RIP.

[01:06:48] Brer Rabbit, Brer Bear, Mr.

[01:06:51] Bluebird, the singing geese, Brer Terrapin,

[01:06:54] Brer Porcupine, Boot Hill Boy one and two.

[01:06:56] That was the vultures with the top hats and the

[01:06:58] Gators with straw hats.

[01:06:59] None of this is a character at all.

[01:07:01] And that's just Harnell.

[01:07:06] All right, moving on to friends with a provost.

[01:07:09] Oh, really?

[01:07:10] We got to hang out with provost.

[01:07:12] No reason to get him on.

[01:07:14] Right in my next trip to the parks where I

[01:07:17] accidentally booked the trips on a different

[01:07:19] set of days than I initially intended.

[01:07:22] Yeah.

[01:07:23] I think it'd be fun for the three of us to

[01:07:25] hang out with Chris provost.

[01:07:27] Mainly because for at least the first 20 minutes,

[01:07:30] we wouldn't know how to feel about it.

[01:07:32] That's fair.

[01:07:33] Yeah.

[01:07:34] Yeah.

[01:07:35] Is he going to do the thing?

[01:07:37] Or is he right?

[01:07:38] Are you a regular person?

[01:07:39] What's going to happen?

[01:07:40] Are you doing the voice?

[01:07:41] Let's all do the voice.

[01:07:43] Because I'm okay with that if that's real,

[01:07:45] but I don't think it is.

[01:07:47] But maybe it is.

[01:07:49] I think it's a good idea.

[01:07:51] I think it's a good idea.

[01:07:52] I think it's a good idea.

[01:07:53] I think it's a good idea.

[01:07:55] But maybe it is.

[01:07:57] I'd hang out with Chris and I've met some of the other folks.

[01:08:00] Yeah, whatever.

[01:08:01] Yeah.

[01:08:02] Dory, not played by Ellen somebody,

[01:08:05] played in this attraction by Jennifer Hale.

[01:08:09] Again, so many voices in movies, shows and video games.

[01:08:13] She was Aela Sakura, the twilec or twilec,

[01:08:16] if you like to pronounce it that way,

[01:08:18] in Rise of Skywalker.

[01:08:20] She was Cinderella in Wreck-It Ralph 2

[01:08:23] and recent video games and shows like Sophia the First.

[01:08:28] This is all Cinderella.

[01:08:30] Disney sing along songs.

[01:08:32] And she was in Cinderella in Cinderella 3,

[01:08:36] a twist in time soon to be.

[01:08:39] Just scraping the vault.

[01:08:41] Coming up soon.

[01:08:42] Can't wait.

[01:08:44] She was in a ton of Marvel cartoons.

[01:08:47] And yeah, there we go.

[01:08:50] That is Jennifer Hale.

[01:08:53] Crush, the turtle has classically been portrayed by Andrew Stanton,

[01:08:59] the director of the movie.

[01:09:01] He apparently recorded all of his dialogue for the movie

[01:09:05] laying down on a couch in his office.

[01:09:08] So somebody put a boom over his face.

[01:09:11] Well, he did his laid back surfer dude.

[01:09:16] Voice.

[01:09:18] Squirt.

[01:09:20] Crush's little baby turtle boy.

[01:09:24] No, Nicholas Bird.

[01:09:27] Same. Pretty close.

[01:09:29] Who did the voice in the movie also.

[01:09:32] He's the son of Brad Bird,

[01:09:34] who is another great Pixar director.

[01:09:37] Nicholas was also the voice of Jack Jack in The Incredibles

[01:09:41] and the little kid on the tricycle who was a great

[01:09:44] man, the little kid on the tricycle who was so excited to see

[01:09:47] The Incredibles in action in the neighborhood.

[01:09:50] The one who was like, that was great at the end of the movie.

[01:09:53] That was totally awesome.

[01:09:55] So the family member of the Disney person so far is the only

[01:10:00] person who has done both the movie and the attraction.

[01:10:05] And I understand.

[01:10:07] Also the director.

[01:10:09] Oh, okay.

[01:10:11] Just the child.

[01:10:13] Bruce was voiced by Barry Humphries in the movie and the

[01:10:17] attraction.

[01:10:19] He's an Australian comedian and actor.

[01:10:21] And he was the classic character Dame Edna.

[01:10:26] If you know who Dame Edna is, please send Dan an email.

[01:10:33] Dan at yearsupifepodcast.com.

[01:10:36] I'll write the email for you right now.

[01:10:39] Stop grouping my children with your Disney rights.

[01:10:43] Oh, no.

[01:10:45] Chum the other shark.

[01:10:47] Not anchor the third shark who was played by, oh no, I didn't

[01:10:51] write him down.

[01:10:53] I think that's fine.

[01:10:55] Okay.

[01:10:57] Who was anchor.

[01:10:59] He wasn't in the rides.

[01:11:01] We don't have to talk about him.

[01:11:03] But Chum was played by Bruce Spence who played the same

[01:11:06] character in the movie.

[01:11:08] He's a New Zealand actor.

[01:11:10] He has not a lot of voice over credits, but he was

[01:11:14] Tion Meton in Star Wars Episode 3.

[01:11:17] One of those alien folks who met Obi-Wan Kenobi on that

[01:11:23] planet tour at the end of the movie where he found

[01:11:26] like it's the tall guy who's got like stripes on his

[01:11:32] face, the white face with the black stripes.

[01:11:35] The big Nick Galaxy eye people.

[01:11:37] No, not them.

[01:11:39] That was from Attack of the Clones.

[01:11:41] Yeah.

[01:11:43] Oh no, I'm blanking on what their names were.

[01:11:46] The Kaminoans.

[01:11:48] Yeah, that was them.

[01:11:50] Oh, Dan's watching a butterfly or a fly or a wasp.

[01:11:54] It's a mosquito.

[01:11:56] The anchor was played by Eric Banna also.

[01:11:59] There we go.

[01:12:01] Bruce Banner, incredible Hulk.

[01:12:03] That's a big name.

[01:12:05] Incredible Hulk.

[01:12:07] In the good one.

[01:12:09] Tad was played by Austin Corini, played by

[01:12:14] Jordy Rantft in the movie.

[01:12:16] Tad is one of the kid fish.

[01:12:19] He has one voice over credit and it's Tad.

[01:12:23] Pearl was played by Erica Jones, played by

[01:12:28] Erica Beck in the movie.

[01:12:30] Another small child playing a kid thing.

[01:12:33] That's the tiny octopus.

[01:12:35] She has a few additional cast credits in Pixar movies.

[01:12:39] The chicken fish is played by Katherine Ringgold,

[01:12:42] who appeared in Finding Dory but first in the ride.

[01:12:46] This is a character that was originated in the ride

[01:12:49] that then appeared in the sequel.

[01:12:51] She's a Pixar employee in the editorial department.

[01:12:54] Ops and for occasional voice work.

[01:12:57] Peach the starfish, played by Alice and Janney,

[01:13:00] who was very low on this list.

[01:13:03] Alice and Janney, one of the most famous people in this movie.

[01:13:06] She played the starfish in the movies as well.

[01:13:09] She has not done a lot of voice over work.

[01:13:13] She was in the new Duck Tales series.

[01:13:17] And in her most iconic voice over role ever.

[01:13:23] The Kaiser Permanente commercials for a few years.

[01:13:28] Also, she was Ellie Sansan in Star Tour as the adventure continues.

[01:13:33] Bye-bye.

[01:13:34] Every time I hear that name, a part of me dies.

[01:13:38] Alison Janney or Kaiser Permanente?

[01:13:42] No, the name of the robot thing.

[01:13:45] Ellie Sansan?

[01:13:46] Yeah.

[01:13:47] Named after Alison Janney?

[01:13:49] This is not the first time this has come up in these shows.

[01:13:54] Sure not.

[01:13:56] The seagulls were outside of the attraction were also voiced by Andrew Stanton,

[01:14:01] the director who is also Andrew Stanton in my notes.

[01:14:06] There we go.

[01:14:07] Boring stuff.

[01:14:08] No height requirement on this attraction.

[01:14:10] It's an omnimover.

[01:14:12] They don't care.

[01:14:13] There's a genie plus lightning lane available, but if you need this,

[01:14:17] this is a very busy day at Epcot.

[01:14:21] Yeah.

[01:14:22] Try to judge everything Eric just said about the voices.

[01:14:26] True for me as well.

[01:14:28] Yeah, absolutely.

[01:14:30] Literally.

[01:14:32] Except Alison Janney.

[01:14:34] Hold on, Eric.

[01:14:35] Don't listen for a little bit.

[01:14:37] All right, hang on.

[01:14:39] Hey.

[01:14:40] I don't know if you know this, Jimmy, but I was not paying attention to that part.

[01:14:47] So that's why I just made it easy.

[01:14:50] I think he said is true for me too.

[01:14:52] Great.

[01:14:53] Cool.

[01:14:54] Point negated.

[01:14:56] I hate you both.

[01:14:58] I spent so...

[01:15:00] I know you did.

[01:15:02] I spent so damn long looking at these names.

[01:15:04] I wasn't going to say anything until Jimmy set up what I thought was a really good joke.

[01:15:11] I mean, it's true, but it's still a good joke.

[01:15:15] There are three listeners who will enjoy what I just read to them.

[01:15:20] You know, that's great.

[01:15:22] I totally encourage that.

[01:15:24] I, you know...

[01:15:26] Like and subscribe, go to our page.

[01:15:28] Eric, if I were not a part of this show and it wasn't so late,

[01:15:32] I too would and will enjoy that part of it.

[01:15:35] I love that stuff.

[01:15:37] Sure.

[01:15:38] Whatever.

[01:15:39] When I listen back to this, I'll be like, ooh, that's interesting.

[01:15:42] I mean, let's be honest.

[01:15:44] When Jimmy talked to me about being on this show all those years ago,

[01:15:48] I was like, oh, I think I understand why my voice is important here.

[01:15:54] It's for this reason.

[01:15:58] Yeah, our listener, our core listener base, they're going to love that crap.

[01:16:02] I'm here for the people who don't.

[01:16:09] That's fine.

[01:16:10] I'm on both of you.

[01:16:12] Write down the timestamp.

[01:16:14] I already wrote down the timestamp.

[01:16:16] Wait until I write down the timestamp before I say it.

[01:16:21] It takes all kinds.

[01:16:23] I love that, truly, I love that you did that.

[01:16:26] But about 30 seconds in, I'm just like, okay.

[01:16:32] Yeah, alright.

[01:16:33] I felt the same way, but for different reasons.

[01:16:36] Yeah, yeah.

[01:16:37] Thanks.

[01:16:38] Thanks for...

[01:16:39] Good job, Eric.

[01:16:40] Thanks for interacting with me as a human being.

[01:16:42] No, no.

[01:16:43] And that joke was a callback to what I said before earlier.

[01:16:48] When you edit the episode, you'll see the connection.

[01:16:51] I wasn't just being...

[01:16:52] I was being a dick, but I was being a dick with a purpose.

[01:16:56] Great.

[01:16:57] Again, that's why I'm here.

[01:16:58] I love your purposeful dick.

[01:17:00] A few more.

[01:17:01] And I love yours.

[01:17:03] Thank you.

[01:17:04] A few more boring facts.

[01:17:05] This attraction is located in world nature, along with the land.

[01:17:12] Because that's what we call this area now.

[01:17:14] We need to keep promoting this so people learn the worlds in Epcot.

[01:17:18] Because this is very important.

[01:17:21] The Klamo...

[01:17:22] I already talked about the Klamobias opening up in the middle.

[01:17:24] They don't like go down.

[01:17:26] They...

[01:17:27] That would be great if they like...

[01:17:30] They close the way an actual clam closed.

[01:17:33] They smoosh you in the middle.

[01:17:35] And then you watch a video the whole time.

[01:17:37] That would be good.

[01:17:38] And as we mentioned earlier...

[01:17:40] Get out and there's a pearl.

[01:17:41] There you go.

[01:17:42] Oh.

[01:17:43] As we mentioned earlier, there's a little bit of controversy about the attraction right now

[01:17:47] because the seagulls aren't there at the moment

[01:17:49] because they're being refurbished.

[01:17:51] Inside the magic did a whole stupid thing on it.

[01:17:54] 14 paragraphs until they got the sentence...

[01:17:57] Until they approached the sentence.

[01:17:59] Now another Pixar film is being scrubbed from Disney.

[01:18:04] Oh God.

[01:18:05] Then a few paragraphs about the attraction that were...

[01:18:08] Honestly, if those seagulls are the thing that makes the attraction for you...

[01:18:13] Go somewhere else.

[01:18:15] Yeah.

[01:18:16] Hell.

[01:18:17] Go watch a puppet show or something.

[01:18:18] Just bad stuff.

[01:18:19] But they based all of this off of a tweet by somebody.

[01:18:22] And part of their argument was that...

[01:18:25] The seagulls are gone and they've painted the roof of the attraction copper.

[01:18:31] And the tweet that they posted was a comparison between...

[01:18:36] It was a humorous comparison between the seas and mission space

[01:18:41] where somebody said this is basically the same show,

[01:18:44] but the same like attraction building out in front.

[01:18:48] It's dumb.

[01:18:49] I think they're making it look more like the original...

[01:18:51] Right.

[01:18:52] Guessing some sort of AI or some sort of person who's not attentive

[01:18:57] looked at it and said,

[01:18:58] Oh they painted the seas copper.

[01:19:01] Oh no, they're obviously removing the Finding Nemo stuff from it.

[01:19:06] But yeah, they did get a click out of me because I had to read the whole thing.

[01:19:11] And...

[01:19:12] That's all they need.

[01:19:13] It's all that matters.

[01:19:14] There we go.

[01:19:15] Blog Mickey, another site that's a little bit questionable

[01:19:19] but also sometimes useful had a picture of the wires for the seagulls

[01:19:24] covered up with a plastic bag tied up with a rubber band,

[01:19:28] which I thought was pretty great.

[01:19:30] Like they removed the seagulls for refurbishment clearly

[01:19:35] and the wires are still there.

[01:19:39] Like it's not a big deal.

[01:19:41] Anyway...

[01:19:42] We got to get in that click baity garbage.

[01:19:45] We got to start cashing on that.

[01:19:48] Right.

[01:19:49] Let's start.

[01:19:50] Do you hear there's a theme park closing at Disney World?

[01:19:52] Oh yeah.

[01:19:53] Oh wait, Jimmy, what?

[01:19:55] What?

[01:19:56] A whole theme park closing at Disney World.

[01:19:58] A whole theme park?

[01:19:59] That's what they use to say?

[01:20:00] They do have so many I guess that would make sense.

[01:20:03] But I mean, what about the magic and all the magical experiences that my family can...

[01:20:08] Well you know Disney creates magical experiences for people?

[01:20:11] They do.

[01:20:12] And sometimes they just need to close.

[01:20:15] Where do they get...

[01:20:17] They're just closing.

[01:20:18] I know they're just closing out of spite and they're closing because it's part of their woke agenda.

[01:20:26] Yeah, it's because Ron DeSantis told them they had to.

[01:20:28] Oh my gosh.

[01:20:29] No, I mean we need to start making click bait.

[01:20:33] We don't want to just tell stories that are actually true.

[01:20:39] Folks, every year one of the water parks close for refurbishment during the winter.

[01:20:44] Every year.

[01:20:45] Like it does every year.

[01:20:46] Every year.

[01:20:47] COVID is kicking in.

[01:20:48] All right, let's get this...

[01:20:50] I got a heart out.

[01:20:51] Let's go.

[01:20:52] Land Impact.

[01:20:53] Land Impact.

[01:20:54] Where are we at with points?

[01:20:55] We got any points here?

[01:20:57] We got the C with Nemo and his friends is ahead one point.

[01:21:04] Okay.

[01:21:05] We're looking at 7 to 8.

[01:21:09] Impact our lands there, Jimmy.

[01:21:11] So, Dan, you'd mentioned about the space and the thing that I like about Tomorrowland in

[01:21:20] that specific...

[01:21:21] And we've talked about it in the past.

[01:21:23] That specific kinetic energy of the submarines moving, the monorail going by formerly the

[01:21:30] people mover, the tomorrow and the atopia, all of that is all this kinetic energy.

[01:21:36] The problem is it's all one structure.

[01:21:40] Yeah.

[01:21:41] The monorail, the people mover, the atopia and the subs are all one superstructure.

[01:21:49] So, you get rid of one, you get rid of all.

[01:21:54] For listeners who are like the most nerdy version of us listening to this, we understand they

[01:21:59] are not literally the same thing but they are so interwoven that they may as well be.

[01:22:04] Well, but that the pylons of the monorail and the extension of the atopia are on top of

[01:22:12] the submarine show building.

[01:22:14] Right.

[01:22:15] I get what you're saying.

[01:22:16] I'm just saying that like...

[01:22:17] And what you're doing now is what they are doing but in reverse.

[01:22:21] I'm just making it clear we understand that they are not literally the same thing

[01:22:25] but your point still completely stands.

[01:22:27] So, the Tomorrowland problem of it all, right?

[01:22:32] That none of it makes sense anymore to be in Tomorrowland.

[01:22:36] You get on the thing and you're on Australia but as far as Tomorrowland's...

[01:22:42] Excuse me, Disneyland's Tomorrowland, it's hard to not picture that without the submarine voyage.

[01:22:53] Not in disagreement but I'm going to add to this in a way that seems like taking away.

[01:23:00] It's about the lagoon.

[01:23:02] 100%.

[01:23:04] You're absolutely right.

[01:23:06] And you need to have something in the lagoon that's moving unless it's just a water feature.

[01:23:12] Right, of course the mind, mind, mind understand birds.

[01:23:16] Yeah, I get that's an appeal.

[01:23:19] I don't love it but I'm not going to...

[01:23:21] Again, it's not negative.

[01:23:23] You're not going to really get a lot from that.

[01:23:26] Yeah, I'm not trying to convince you of it because I brought it up before as part of the queue

[01:23:30] and then I changed it to the land impact.

[01:23:32] And it works better as part of the land I think.

[01:23:34] Agreed.

[01:23:35] So, I didn't make any notes about this like I mentioned in the chat

[01:23:39] because I don't know that I have a true opinion about it.

[01:23:43] And again, when we're talking about lands because the lands at Epcot in World Nature are inside of buildings

[01:23:51] it's hard to have this omnimover impact the land unless you can't access the land without this ride

[01:24:01] which is not the case.

[01:24:03] Hmm.

[01:24:05] Huh.

[01:24:06] Yeah, I mean...

[01:24:08] Now, you can access tomorrow land without this ride.

[01:24:12] So, maybe that negates itself?

[01:24:15] And you can access the seas without going on the ride.

[01:24:20] That's what I'm saying.

[01:24:21] You can get in without it but the general way to access the land as you're walking up to it

[01:24:26] you see that wonderful rock thing...

[01:24:34] The reef with the water with the waves.

[01:24:36] The reef with the water that splashes up on it.

[01:24:38] Before you even get there I think I'm going to get there for you.

[01:24:42] I hate talking.

[01:24:44] You can get into the seas pavilion without going on this ride but you have to know where you're going.

[01:24:49] Right.

[01:24:50] So, if we're talking about the seas with Nemo and Friends as a land which is reasonable, right?

[01:24:56] Hmm.

[01:24:58] 90 something percent of the people are not going to access the seas with Nemo and Friends without going on this ride.

[01:25:06] Correct.

[01:25:07] That's fair.

[01:25:08] The Nemo and Friends ride...

[01:25:11] I didn't think that was going to come out coherently but it happened.

[01:25:17] It's more the land impacting the ride in a way.

[01:25:23] Isn't it?

[01:25:24] And didn't that wave thing exist before Nemo?

[01:25:27] Yes, the wave thing did exist before and then they added in the seagulls.

[01:25:31] The seagulls, yeah.

[01:25:34] And they added in more mid-mod images of characters from Finding Nemo on the front of the building.

[01:25:44] The mural.

[01:25:45] Right.

[01:25:46] So, I think just to finish my thesis statement here is that as an impact of the land more people are going to go on the ride to access the land

[01:25:58] whereas in Tomorrowland you don't need to go on that ride to access the land and in fact most people don't go on the ride because it's prohibitive.

[01:26:07] I will say again, it does it better.

[01:26:11] The submarines do the whole experience better.

[01:26:15] Pause if you don't mind.

[01:26:18] Go ahead.

[01:26:20] I'm talking about land impact in terms of like how it actually impacts everything around it.

[01:26:29] I don't care about the people.

[01:26:32] I care...

[01:26:33] Don't care about people.

[01:26:34] Dan does not care about people.

[01:26:36] To me, land impact isn't so much about whether or not people have an experience with...

[01:26:42] I would argue that in terms of land impact, a bunch of people have an experience with how the subs impact the land more than actually ride it

[01:26:57] because it's this giant...

[01:26:59] It's a big thing of water and it's a huge...

[01:27:03] I mean visually it's beautiful especially at night.

[01:27:06] True.

[01:27:08] Even during the day.

[01:27:09] It's nice blue water.

[01:27:10] But it's just, it's such a pleasant place to be whether you are riding the subs or not and that wouldn't exist if the subs weren't there.

[01:27:22] That's fair.

[01:27:23] And then we could also extend the argument further to say that the land in Epcot is technically world nature.

[01:27:31] So if we're talking about this ride impacting the land of world nature then it has no impact.

[01:27:38] No impact.

[01:27:41] It is...

[01:27:42] A giant aquarium is nature.

[01:27:44] But the aquarium is not the subject at hand, counselor.

[01:27:50] But you see the aquarium, the reveal of the aquarium is a portion, a major portion of the ride.

[01:27:57] It's a little part of the beginning and then it's the big reveal at the end is, wow, my cartoon friends are inside this giant aquarium filled with real fish and turtles, sharks and all that stuff.

[01:28:10] I think the...

[01:28:11] I think you already had a point for that.

[01:28:12] I think the ride, by the way, if they're projecting fish onto a shark, that'd be a clear winner.

[01:28:19] But I think with the seas it's like, I get what you're saying Jimmy, but or and whichever, it's not that it doesn't have any impact.

[01:28:35] It sort of enhances.

[01:28:38] It's like dipping your fries in ranch.

[01:28:42] You can still have your fries, but this is your dipping it in ranch or whatever.

[01:28:47] Please clarify your example.

[01:28:49] Yes, your honor.

[01:28:51] The ride works as a very good condiment for the land.

[01:28:57] But I guess I'm arguing with myself here a little bit, but is the land...

[01:29:02] We all are right now.

[01:29:03] Is the sea's with Nemo and friends or is the land world nature?

[01:29:10] Well, what does the guidebook say? What does the app say?

[01:29:15] The land is world nature.

[01:29:16] The sea's with Nemo and friends is located in world nature.

[01:29:19] All right.

[01:29:20] So the way I answer that question remains whether it should be or not we're going off of what the guide says because they've decided that that's the case.

[01:29:34] I will confirm.

[01:29:35] Okay.

[01:29:36] It's a very, I think to be perfectly honest, the seas with Nemo and friends or rather just with Nemo and friends, not the seas yet.

[01:29:53] So with Nemo and friends...

[01:29:55] It is now called the seas, you're right.

[01:29:57] Deep.

[01:29:58] But the ride is with Nemo and friends.

[01:30:03] Correct.

[01:30:05] It has a lot to potentially...

[01:30:10] In terms of land impact, I can't say that the subs don't beat the seas for this because that dam lagoon is such a big part of tomorrow land and kind of...

[01:30:33] It is a pretty big draw.

[01:30:34] Fancy land.

[01:30:35] And it just kind of makes that area.

[01:30:37] But look at the presentation of the entire pavilion, the seas with Nemo and friends.

[01:30:44] You've got this kinetic splash out front with the seagull friends that you know.

[01:30:51] Which existed before this overlay.

[01:30:53] Right.

[01:30:54] And there's a...

[01:30:55] So did the lagoon.

[01:30:57] There's a display off to the side with 3D like the puffer fish and several of the other fish from the...

[01:31:05] The movie.

[01:31:06] And then there's the kind of mid-mod like half 2D display on the front of it.

[01:31:13] It's drawing you inside with your friends.

[01:31:16] It's telling you, this is a thing and you don't know what's inside but you can come inside and you'll find out.

[01:31:22] But I have to actually go inside in order to experience any of that except for the splash effect.

[01:31:27] That is correct.

[01:31:28] So here's what I'm going to say, Eric, to your point.

[01:31:32] The same as the dancing fountains at the imagination or the upside down waterfall of water falling up.

[01:31:41] Those things are also drawing you in because the seas is in world nature.

[01:31:48] So if we're talking about the land is world nature, I don't think...

[01:31:52] Let's just say imagination is in world celebration.

[01:31:55] Let's not say that.

[01:31:57] We've already said that.

[01:31:59] Have we?

[01:32:00] Or have they?

[01:32:01] No, it's in world celebration and it was brought up when I was arguing for the attraction a couple months ago.

[01:32:08] I thought...

[01:32:09] Confirmed.

[01:32:10] Thank you.

[01:32:11] So the only things in world nature are land seas.

[01:32:15] Okay.

[01:32:16] Also let me say I don't care at this point.

[01:32:19] Like I...

[01:32:20] I don't either.

[01:32:22] And I think I'm just trying to not give the world nature.

[01:32:25] I don't either.

[01:32:26] And I think I'm just trying to not give the subs a point because I just love that land impact so much.

[01:32:34] I'm actually really trying to be fair here.

[01:32:36] I do love the look of the subs floating through.

[01:32:39] I agree.

[01:32:40] It does draw you in and then you look at the line and you leave.

[01:32:43] Yes, I personally believe that the impact of the submarine voyage to the land is greater than seas with emo and friends is to the land of world nature.

[01:32:53] You can't see the ride.

[01:32:54] You don't know the ride exists unless you go inside.

[01:32:58] My nieces love it.

[01:33:00] I've seen that we've been there times where they will ride the attraction, leave through the back door, come back out, ride the attraction again.

[01:33:07] But...

[01:33:08] Mm-hmm.

[01:33:10] So if...

[01:33:14] Just that...

[01:33:15] Go ahead.

[01:33:16] Sub to one point.

[01:33:21] All right, which gets us to a tie.

[01:33:23] Yep.

[01:33:24] So I think...

[01:33:26] And again, I try to be as objective as possible here.

[01:33:29] I said already that I think the submarine voyage tells us a better story.

[01:33:34] Mm-hmm.

[01:33:36] But that the amount of people who experience that on a daily basis and the amount of time it takes...

[01:33:48] I think we're talking about 900 people per hour at submarine voyage and the load unload tedium and the 11 minutes on the ride.

[01:33:57] Now you could argue that 11 minutes, I'm getting more bang for my buck, but it's 11 minutes because of how long it takes to get through everything.

[01:34:04] Mm-hmm.

[01:34:05] So you're the judge obviously, but I think if we talk about throughput and more people being able to experience an attraction, that would give the leg up to the seas.

[01:34:14] More people being able to experience the attraction and the attraction goes somewhere.

[01:34:21] It does, you're at...

[01:34:23] You end in a different place than you begin.

[01:34:25] Mm-hmm.

[01:34:26] That's true.

[01:34:27] And you end in a whole new experience of stuff rather than where you started at the base of the monorail.

[01:34:32] Right.

[01:34:33] So to add to what you're saying, I think also, at least for me, for the seas it's like...

[01:34:41] It gives you a reason to go to the place and then it's like, oh, I'm here, I may as well check out some stuff.

[01:34:48] Correct.

[01:34:54] It's more of a voyage.

[01:34:55] That's a good point.

[01:34:56] Yeah.

[01:34:57] And you know, you got turtle talk in there so it might be something that you're specifically going to.

[01:35:03] So I think that you're right.

[01:35:05] It tells the story more better.

[01:35:09] I'm gonna stick with that.

[01:35:10] Good.

[01:35:11] But the seas, I think, does it in a more concise way that it isn't too long.

[01:35:23] It's less of an ordeal.

[01:35:26] That's fair.

[01:35:27] And ultimately, it feels more like a fun...

[01:35:30] It feels more fun mainly because it feels like less of a commitment.

[01:35:35] Okay.

[01:35:36] Where it's just like, hey, I'm gonna do this cool thing.

[01:35:38] There have been times honestly, and I think the last time I went there was...

[01:35:41] I was looking at the subs line and it was like 10, 15 minutes.

[01:35:45] Right?

[01:35:46] And I don't hate that ride really at all.

[01:35:49] I mean, I love Bobby Darin, so I love the ride.

[01:35:52] Obviously.

[01:35:53] Yeah.

[01:35:54] Kevin Spacey, you love Kevin Spacey too.

[01:35:56] Yes, absolutely.

[01:36:00] And I just...

[01:36:01] I was like, I really should go on this.

[01:36:04] It's like almost no weight.

[01:36:07] I don't want to deal with the whole going down, being a fat guy going down the stairs and then

[01:36:14] pulling down the thing and being next to people and then jumping on the hatch above.

[01:36:22] There are parts of it that are charming and it's like...

[01:36:25] It is definitely one of those things where it's like...

[01:36:30] It's like when you crave Taco Bell or McDonald's, nothing else will do.

[01:36:34] And same thing with the subs.

[01:36:36] It's like when you want to go on the subs, there's no substitute.

[01:36:40] That nostalgia trigger flipped and you're like, no, I got to walk into a weird contraption.

[01:36:46] Right.

[01:36:47] And it can be really exciting but most of the time...

[01:36:51] And I'm doing that thing that we do very often which is, okay, you have one right next to the other.

[01:36:56] Which one do you go on?

[01:36:58] Most of the time.

[01:37:00] 80% of the time.

[01:37:01] Unless I'm like, I need the subs in my life right now.

[01:37:04] Which does happen but not all the time because of the ordeal.

[01:37:07] I would just go on Nemo.

[01:37:10] I mean, it's the other one.

[01:37:11] It's the C's.

[01:37:13] Eric is typing messages in a messenger to a group that is not this group.

[01:37:19] Like?

[01:37:20] I just want you to know that.

[01:37:21] I'm just saying.

[01:37:22] That's how much he's checked out of this.

[01:37:26] Hey, you checked out when I talked for 20 minutes.

[01:37:31] I'm allowed to check out while you two are arguing for me.

[01:37:35] Why do I need to talk?

[01:37:37] You two are taking care of it.

[01:37:39] I don't care.

[01:37:43] Yeah, it's weird because I almost feel like I know I'm being as objective as possible

[01:37:50] because I want the subs to win.

[01:37:54] But after everything that we've said, I think the C's is the winner.

[01:38:01] I can't even get better.

[01:38:03] You got well overall like we've discussed it.

[01:38:06] It's just yeah.

[01:38:07] It's better.

[01:38:10] Overall, it's more fantastic.

[01:38:13] The way that the projections show up in an aquarium filled with fish.

[01:38:17] I think for me, I'll give you that that right there is is some of that Disney

[01:38:23] magic where you go, whoa.

[01:38:26] Yeah, my friends are inside of a real aquarium and it's a giant aquarium

[01:38:30] and everybody loves original IP.

[01:38:34] They got that with the song.

[01:38:37] Yeah, it's it's better but with the caveat that if you want to go on a

[01:38:43] submarine ride, there's only one that you can go on.

[01:38:46] And that's that's fair.

[01:38:48] I have nostalgia for the submarines, but that said, I love the

[01:38:53] 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and going on the submarine ride at

[01:38:58] Disneyland.

[01:38:59] I've done it twice.

[01:39:01] I don't know.

[01:39:02] It's just it's a long wait for something that's not as much fun.

[01:39:08] And even if they even if yeah, it shouldn't exist in a lot of ways

[01:39:12] on paper, please don't get rid of it.

[01:39:14] Oh, absolutely not.

[01:39:15] No, but it's weird.

[01:39:18] Yeah.

[01:39:19] Yeah.

[01:39:21] So with all those qualifiers, I feel very comfortable saying the

[01:39:26] seas wins.

[01:39:27] Congratulations.

[01:39:31] Oh, and bring back the living seas.

[01:39:34] Hmm.

[01:39:37] Yeah.

[01:39:38] If they had that technology in the living seas game.

[01:39:41] Totally.

[01:39:42] Yep.

[01:39:43] Get off the get off your clam mobile and then take a hydro

[01:39:46] later down.

[01:39:47] No clam mobile.

[01:39:48] First of all, no clam.

[01:39:49] No clam.

[01:39:50] Okay.

[01:39:51] Just a regular old in a weird mobile.

[01:39:55] And all right, Dan, we'll take us home.

[01:39:57] That was great.

[01:39:58] All right, let's see.

[01:40:01] We got other shows on the network.

[01:40:04] Other shows such as the aforementioned before I do this, Jimmy,

[01:40:07] you have any consious news?

[01:40:10] Yeah, I've got a new one.

[01:40:12] I think I mentioned Bianca and her the Reiki family on

[01:40:17] scraping the fault.

[01:40:18] I didn't mention it here.

[01:40:20] And they have another family coming from Oregon playing

[01:40:23] their trip for December.

[01:40:24] There was still availability.

[01:40:25] Think I mentioned that was that?

[01:40:27] That wasn't this year.

[01:40:28] Scraping the ball.

[01:40:29] Scraping the ball.

[01:40:30] Pretty sure.

[01:40:31] I've got a new one from Mexico, the Uruguay family.

[01:40:34] And they were actually were meeting tomorrow to

[01:40:37] plan a trip for early December if you can believe

[01:40:39] this.

[01:40:40] Nice.

[01:40:41] And if you would like to meet Jimmy tomorrow, you

[01:40:43] can call 856R EARS.

[01:40:44] Yes.

[01:40:45] And tomorrow.

[01:40:46] Oh, and we have two new ones that I got.

[01:40:48] What happens?

[01:40:49] Well, hold on.

[01:40:50] They haven't called me back yet.

[01:40:52] But there are two new listeners that have not going

[01:40:59] to take much longer.

[01:41:01] Erik, it's a good one.

[01:41:02] I've tuned this part out too.

[01:41:04] I'm trying to find a good song for Jimmy, but

[01:41:06] I just closed all the windows.

[01:41:07] I didn't think we were going to...

[01:41:09] Trinette has reached out.

[01:41:10] She said she wants to go fall of 2025.

[01:41:12] That's a little far in advance for me.

[01:41:14] Oh.

[01:41:15] But anyway, people are listening.

[01:41:17] Thank you listeners and concierge 856R at the end.

[01:41:21] Right.

[01:41:22] So other shows you can listen to on our network.

[01:41:25] Oh, hold on.

[01:41:27] I almost forgot.

[01:41:29] These other shows are brought to you by an app.

[01:41:33] I think it's an app called Single Writers.

[01:41:36] Single Writers.

[01:41:38] It exists.

[01:41:41] It's a real thing.

[01:41:43] I'm going to move on.

[01:41:44] I really want to retire this bit.

[01:41:49] Anyway, yes.

[01:41:51] Long story.

[01:41:53] Other shows that happen with us, you have Ears Up.

[01:41:58] Ears Up in depth.

[01:42:00] Recording now?

[01:42:03] Right after we finish.

[01:42:05] Yeah.

[01:42:06] All right.

[01:42:08] Oh, in-depth is?

[01:42:09] In-depth is, yes.

[01:42:11] Oh, I can't wait.

[01:42:14] No further comment.

[01:42:16] Let's see.

[01:42:17] You got Milkman Illuminate around the corner.

[01:42:19] Balthamilk also known as Balthamilk podcast.

[01:42:21] They talk about Star Wars stuff.

[01:42:23] And the people who talk about other Star Wars things,

[01:42:27] the Star Wars things known as Marvel, they are punypott.

[01:42:31] And they are full-size humans.

[01:42:34] That's just a name.

[01:42:37] And let's see.

[01:42:39] You got Concierge.

[01:42:40] Contact us.

[01:42:43] I'm Dan at EarsUp-podcast.com.

[01:42:47] Neither Jimmy and Eric know how to access their emails,

[01:42:50] and I don't really check mine.

[01:42:52] So go to the Facebook group.

[01:42:54] Interact with us there.

[01:42:55] Eric Poddy on Instagram or TSRE.

[01:43:01] Oh, I need to get on TSR West a little bit more.

[01:43:06] That's all I got.

[01:43:08] That's a show.

[01:43:10] See you at the parks.

[01:43:12] Get to each other.

[01:43:14] Fresh Bates.

[01:43:15] He said the magic words.

[01:43:50] For the record is 10.02 p.m.

[01:43:56] I'm normally asleep, but I'm awake.

[01:44:01] Oh, Trinette responded.

[01:44:03] Fall of 2025.

[01:44:07] Very expensive vacation here.

[01:44:11] They're going to DC, New York and Boston.

[01:44:13] Oh.

[01:44:14] 8 nights, 7 days in the parks.

[01:44:16] 6 days on Disney properties.

[01:44:18] One day universal single gate.

[01:44:20] Oh, that's a mistake.

[01:44:22] You've got to see Olive Harry Potter.

[01:44:24] Single day tickets.

[01:44:26] I love to pick my brain more.

[01:44:28] All the Potter.

[01:44:30] Are we still recording?

[01:44:32] Nah.