The Case of the Celebrities 2! Another March-ish Bracket but the End of It

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[00:00:45] Welcome to the The Supreme Resort, Land v. World, a podcast about Disneyland and Walt Disney World and which is the The Supreme Resort. Each episode we will discuss and explore each resort ride by ride, land by land, park by park, celebrity by celebrity, determine which is better. I'm your host Jimmy and thank you for joining me on this quest to help the greater good of humanity answer this long elusive question, which is better, Disneyland or Walt Disney World?

[00:01:12] Joining me as always is Dan. Hi, I'm Dan. Just getting ready to purchase an individual lightning lane for the Autopia. Awesome. And we also have Eric. I will also purchase a lightning lane, but I'm not attending that day. Excellent. They're $50. Oh, oh, never mind. For the Autopia? Yes. You can buy individual lightning lanes for Autopia? It's a prediction. It's a prediction market? Based on world events. I'm predicting. Got it.

[00:01:42] Oh, because of Autopia and the amount of fuel. We'll be purchasing individual lightning lanes for $50 a piece. Yeah. Oh, that's going to happen. It's fine. So, listener, this is our second episode in the March Madness. And just like the NCAA basketball tournament, it actually ends in April. And so, too, does our March bracket madness. As you'll see in the description of the last episode, we promised that Teg will be here this week. He has been our guest judge every time we've done one of these.

[00:02:12] I just re-listened to the episode for reasons I will not explain. And we mentioned Teg's name many, many times as the final judge for this episode. And here's Teg. None of you will be surprised to learn that our guest judge is Marie. Hey. Hi, Marie. Hi. Marie from Concee Ears. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here. And Marie, you are a past guest, so listeners will be familiar with you.

[00:02:39] And also, since then, you are continuing to thrive on the Spoke podcast. Sure. Spokes. There's one Spokes. This is the answer to the hub crawl. This is the Spoke run. Correct. So we basically listen to the show. We answer questions. We pull listener questions from our Discord chat. And we talk about all kinds of things. That sounds really fun.

[00:03:07] I promise I listen all the time. I believe you. So I'm sure, are you having a good time with it? Yeah, we are. We're having fun. That's good. Do you have rotating guests on, like the hub crawl? We do not. It's mostly Olivia, Rob, and I. Unless one of us is absent, then we'll pull somebody else in. But for the most part, it's just us. Well, speaking of being absent, Tag is not here. There have been scheduling conflicts.

[00:03:36] Things are going well in all of our lives, which is good. But we said if we ever missed episodes because something went bad. I know that's what if we did a wheel. But anyway, everything was going well, just very busy. So we had a little bit of scheduling conflict. And Marie was kind enough to be our guest judge. I sent a note to Marie and said, would you be interested in guest judging? Here is the premise. And she said, I don't know anything about celebrities. And I said, perfect, because that's really not what this is about. Yes, it is about celebrities.

[00:04:04] But it's really more about the performance in the rideshow or attraction for Disney. So the fact that you're not in tune with all the celebrity of it all, you can just appreciate it as a guest of the parks. Correct. It could be really fun, though, to describe these people as celebrities. Well, they are. Explain who they are and why they are. It would be. And I will do that. I will pepper that in as we go through the discussion and kind of bring some relevance to Marie. We can do that together.

[00:04:33] So we have eliminated from 64 celebrities to 16. Just as a reminder to the listener. Oh, wait. Before we do that, guys, do you have any business? No. Marie, how's concierzing going? Concierzing is going great. I've been very busy lately. That's good. Yeah, it's good stuff. That's very good. We're not allowed to talk about that on this network. Oh, that's right. They're not a sponsor.

[00:05:01] I still have nothing but love for the concees. And Marie, before we hang up later, you're going to have to explain what it is that you needed from me concierge-wise. Marie booked a trip for a referral for me because she's better at it than I am. But I like to do the planning part. She can do the booking part. Right. But she's better at it, generally speaking. So I give it to the professionals. Anyway. And that's the professional. Okay. Great. So, listener, just a reminder.

[00:05:30] In our Sweet 16, we have four quadrants. And if you're not looking at the bracket, mostly because I haven't posted it and you have no access to it, unless you've created it yourself by listening to us. Our four quadrants or regions. In the upper northwest region is Disney IP. In the lower southwest region is Lucasfilm, etc. In the upper right is Pixar. And in the lower right, Marvel.

[00:05:56] Listen to the last episode of how I got to justifications of all these because, as we discussed, there weren't exactly 16 of each of these categories in every bracket. But I did my best. It was mostly Jim Cummings. It was mostly Jim Cummings. That's right. The other thing, I was listening back because somehow I lost the file we created in the last episode. My lovely bride on our ride home had to listen to the episode and write them all down again. Got to. So. Got to. Got to. Excuse me. Got to. Yes.

[00:06:25] I was able to, fortunately. Now, one thing that I didn't do very well is repeat for the listener what actually won. I had written it down but didn't necessarily repeat it. So it was confusing as a listener and a person who was having to write it all down what exactly, who exactly what. Oh, so you're saying that it would have been easier and probably a better episode if at the end we would have said, okay, here's what we landed on. That's correct. Well, I think I did. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Okay, so.

[00:06:54] I feel like that tracks with how we do our show. That's right. Yeah. Well. All right. So we have the Sweet 16. We're going to start in the Disney IP region and we're going to discuss Kristen Bell. Kristen Bell plays Anna in Frozen Ever After. It is a boat ride replaced Maelstrom in the Epcot World Showcase. All right. Before we continue, I just want to make a prediction that we will not have learned our lesson next year. Yeah. A hundred percent.

[00:07:24] As of. No. I would bet on that. This is how many times have we done this? I'll write a check right now and post date it. So listener, if you're doing a deep dive and listening to this like a year later, who knows? That's right. I know. And you're right. Okay.

[00:07:43] So Kristen Bell, all the things I just said, Marie, and Jennifer Lewis, who plays Mama Odie in the Tiana Bayou Adventure in both the Magic Kingdom and Disneyland. She's Mama Odie. She's Mama Odie. R.I.P. Splash. R.I.P. Splash Mountain, I guess. You might also recognize Kristen Bell from The Good Place. That's right. Veronica Mars. Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Yep. Yep.

[00:08:10] She's the titular Sarah Marshall. Yep. But all those things are irrelevant to the Disney ride show or attraction. So Marie, thinking about these two attractions and these two performances by these two actors, which one do you feel did a better job? Okay. Okay.

[00:08:29] So I feel like Mama Odie has a bigger role in her attraction because she's the one that is shrinking you down and bringing you back to size and sending you on your adventure. Anna's kind of expected to be there. So, of course, she's there. And if she wasn't there, I would say they would just put in more Elsa. I don't think it would matter too much. Oh. Wow.

[00:08:55] So I think what we'll do is to not put all the pressure on Marie. I think Marie's going to be the final decision maker and we'll give a little bit more of our nuanced opinion. But I agree. Jennifer Lewis was also in Black-ish. Goat, a movie in which they made a movie about a goat who is the greatest of all time. The greatest goat? So the executives were like, hey, you know what we should do? We should make a movie with a goat because that's how movies are made now.

[00:09:26] She was also in Dirty Laundry, The Preacher's Wife, Sister Act 3. What's Love got to do with that? Three? There was a three? French French of Bel Air. I guess so. Poetic justice. All right. Fresh Prince of Bel Air is what I was trying to say and failing. Got it. Okay. You're eroding your argument there. Yes. So we're going to move on to Eric Idle, who is Sir... Wait, wait, wait. What? Did we make him a decision? Or she already decided Jennifer Lewis.

[00:09:55] I didn't decide. You can try to convince me otherwise. All right. Let's go. You asked for my opinion. I gave you. Yes, I did. Guys, I agree with her. Go ahead. I think Kristen Bell, looking at her filmography and whatnot, is a strong... And this is just as of today, is a stronger, oh, it's that person choice. Fair enough. More of a celebrity than Jennifer Lewis. True. Yeah, maybe.

[00:10:22] Like, I don't know Jennifer Lewis's name until we were talking about this. Agree. I didn't know who Jennifer Lewis was prior to this. I did know who Kristen Bell was. Okay. But are we going based on celebrity or performance? It's kind of whatever the vibe is. It's a great point, but let's decide that now. No, because Marie is not as familiar with celebrities, that's kind of why this is a fun little nuance.

[00:10:49] Because then she's not going to be playing favorites based on her favorite actor or actress. Correct. It's more about the experience of the park goer, maybe not even knowing that that person is a celebrity. So it really should be more about the performance. Mama Odie. Also in Bad Moms and Frozen 2. And 3. Huh. And presumably 5 and 6. 22. Not 4. So how do we feel about this format as we make it up as we go?

[00:11:19] I think we keep making it up as we go. I don't think there's going to be one answer to this, to be honest. Because some, it'll be more of a clean, okay, that's the more interesting celebrity. Some will be like, okay, that's the more interesting performance. Yeah. And I think locking us in to one approach is going to end up being a less entertaining show, to be honest. Just trying to give a framework. No, that's fine. Marie is our avatar for our audience. She's already bored. All right. So let's move on to Eric.

[00:11:48] We're going to say Jennifer Lewis, just for the sake of time. Oh, okay. Eric Idle, who is Nigel Channing in the Figment ride and the journey into somebody's imagination, sometimes starring Figment. He was also Marie in playing the same character in Honey, I Shrunk the Audience. Oh. He was also...

[00:12:14] Generally known for, outside of attractions in Disney, generally known for Monty Python. Monty Python. Okay. He was in lots of, all the Monty Pythons. So Eric Idle, does his face come to your brain when you think about that name? Yes. Now that I explained it? Okay. I know who he is from Figment. From the ride. Okay, great. Are you familiar with the parrot sketch? No. Okay. Now, she's a sophisticated lady.

[00:12:43] No, she does not know the parrot sketch. One of the most disturbing images you'll see in that attraction is Eric Idle's face projected on the moon. Yes. Very disturbing image. I recall. Yep. And then he is going up against Eugene Levy, who is playing Eugene Levy in Canada Far and Wide, the Circle Vision 360 from Epcot's Canada Pavilion. You may also know him from Schitt's Creek, Jaws. American Pie. Splash. Not Jaws. Splash.

[00:13:12] I was going to say Jaws. I knew there was a fish in it. Best in Show, Waiting for Guffman, Mighty Wind. A CTV star. Any of this ring a bell. Schitt's Creek. Great show. Okay, great. Yeah. So, Eric Idle or Eugene Levy as a park enthusiast. In fact, those attractions are right next to each other, geographically speaking. There's also Cannibal Girls from 1973. Hmm. Yeah, no. That doesn't sound familiar. Okay.

[00:13:42] So, do you guys want to try to convince me or do you want me to just give you my opinion? Go for it. All of the above. That would be a good way to do this, Jeff. I think Eric Idle, he narrates it. He's got more of a presence. He's got more of a presence. Eugene, for me, Canada Far and Wide is a boring show. If it were Martin Short and this was the Martin Short version, I would say Martin Short all day because he's a lot more entertaining.

[00:14:11] But because of Eugene Levy, as much as I love him as an actor, I think Eric Idle kind of has a bigger presence in the ride. Okay. Eugene's kind of boring. Eugene and Catherine O'Hara. RIP. RIP. It's kind of bland, their performance. But you're talking about it as though the Eric Idle ride is good. And it's not. It's not. Neither are good in my opinion.

[00:14:40] And I think that as far as celebrity goes, Eric Idle, I mean, if the check clears, he's going to show up. Let's be honest. But he does his best. So here's what I'm thinking. He does something good. Go ahead, Marissa. Does it have to be Eric Idle? Because I don't know anything about him other than he's Figment's friend. So anybody could have been in that attraction and I would be cool with that. That is a good qualifier. Interesting. Who else can we imagine in that role?

[00:15:10] Well, what's the question? Is it whoever's Figment's friend is my choice or what do you mean? No, I think this is a good thought experiment. For example, if we replace Eric Idle with Eugene Levy, it would work just as well. Yes, it would. Probably better. Possibly better. Because Eugene Levy is probably a better actor. What does this mean? Or if we replace... What if we replaced Eric Idle with Eugene Levy in the Canada movie?

[00:15:41] That would be interesting because it would point out that Canada is a part of the Commonwealth. And it would be really uncomfortable for a lot of people. I think both these attractions are better if they switch roles. Hmm. Hmm. I think... I want to lean in on... Eugene Levy is starring as himself. Yes, he is. Which is kind of... The ultimate celebrity cameo.

[00:16:10] It is the ultimate celebrity cameo. And he's just having a conversation with his pal Catherine about Canada. And maybe he's having a conversation with us. About Canada. And nobody... I think in terms of like who's the bigger get, I think Eugene Levy is. But I'm not saying that that wins the argument. I'm just saying let's actually have the discussion. Okay. Well, I think we've had the discussion.

[00:16:39] Now it's time for Marie to decide. Yeah. So I'm going to be a hypocrite here and say Eugene Levy wins because Schitt's Creek. That's funny. I don't know anything about celebrities, but I'm going to pick it because I like that show. I just said I'm going to be a hypocrite here. No, it's good. I'm good. We were watching episodes of that yesterday. So... It's a fun show. Okay. Let's move on to the Lucasfilm Etcetera bracket. Hold on. I think I broke Dan. Dan, are you okay? Okay. I'm good.

[00:17:09] Okay. Are you sure? Did I hurt your feelings? Did you say Eugene Levy? No, you did not hurt his feelings. Okay. Okay. I'm speaking on his behalf. He's reading something. I'm looking ahead. Yeah. So moving on to the Lucasfilm Etcetera, Jim Cummings, in this case, Marie, plays Hondo Onaka in Millennium Falcon Smuggler's Run. Okay. Millennium Falcor as you... Will you just stop it?

[00:17:38] Inside joke. I'm sorry. I shouldn't do that. So anyway, Jim Cummings, also Marie, for context, is a lot of Disney voices. As I mentioned in the last episode, he was the preamble narrator for the pre-show of... What is it? The Epcot show? Illuminations, Reflections of Earth. That was him. He plays Winnie the Pooh. He plays Tigger. He plays Hondo Onaka. He plays the Firefly from Princess and the Frog.

[00:18:06] He's a very talented, well-rounded actor. So in this case, Hondo Onaka. He filled in on Be Prepared. You said that. I still don't understand what you're saying. He sang Be Prepared? Yeah. I think the second half... Jeremy Irons? Yeah. Jeremy Irons, I think, didn't sing the second half. Yeah. Interesting. I haven't heard that before. Talented. I keep saying it. I heard it last episode, but I didn't understand it then. Okay. Sorry. So this is Jim Cummings playing Hondo Onaka.

[00:18:34] Now, in this case, he is physically there as a robot, and he is also on screen as himself painted up as Hondo. He also played Hondo in the animated series. So you've got all of those things. Now, Dom Nogleeson, the same story in Rise of the Resistance. He plays Lieutenant... Is the red-headed one? Hux. Hux. General Hux. He plays General Hux. He's red-headed.

[00:19:01] He's kind of right-hand man to the supreme leader slash in the ride. He's next to Kylo Ren. He plays Bill Weasley in the Harry Potter movies. Oh. He's been in a lot of stuff. Very talented actor. His father played Mad-Eye Moody also in the Harry Potter movies. Wow. Anyway, so both of these actors are playing themselves, or excuse me, are playing a role

[00:19:27] on screen in pre-show, et cetera, and they're also physical robots. Okay. Yes, but... No, that's okay. Never mind. Well, okay. Hondo is less of a Jim Cummings representation in robot form, where Dom Nogleeson, it's like, that's the guy. Well, that's right. Are you saying, oh, because he's... He's... A character. An alien. He's a character. Yeah.

[00:19:56] So... Now... I don't know. Here's my argument. Dom Nogleeson is a very talented actor, but he's playing a Dom Nogleeson type, whereas Jim Cummings is unrecognizable. I'm going to push back on that, because Jim Cummings being in anything is like there being a churro cart in a land. I like that argument, actually. It's like, who cares? He's less... At this point, he's not... He's more of an employee than a celebrity. Fair enough.

[00:20:27] And if you... Looking at Dom Nogleeson's filmography, I love that he's usually in these, like... Kind of indie-leaning or artsy-leaning movies. I mean, he's in some big things, but he's also in, like, Mother... Sorry, Mother... Paddington. Okay. I realize that people are going to be in things... Was that Paddington? ...that people have seen. What I'm trying to say is that he's in...

[00:20:54] He has more of an, like, indie cred, or tries to. He's in The Patient, The Revenant, Ex Machina. Like, he's got more to lose by being there. Appearance-wise. It wasn't Paddington. It's more of a whiplash thing to be like, oh, he's involved with this. So, again, going back to the...

[00:21:23] Eric, I think it was Peter Rabbit. That's right. That's what it was. It was Peter Rabbit. Yeah. So, what did they do for the attraction? Jimmy, you disappeared. Yeah, I know. On purpose. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. Here's what I'm thinking. When Hondo... It's Hondo, right? It is. When Hondo breaks down, they throw a tarp over him, and he's got to be on a screen. Correct. Right? Okay. When... But then it's actually him. But then it's actually him, but it's still on a screen.

[00:21:53] Like, he doesn't actually come out in costume and makeup, right? He's not a person. No, none of them do. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, he breaks, they throw a tarp over him, and then when Domhal Gleeson breaks, the whole ride goes down? I don't know if that's been the case. I think he's probably just as stiff. I don't know. He's probably just stiff. Huh, what's the B mode of those two? I don't know B mode. I know B mode of Kylo at the end.

[00:22:23] Later, yeah. Yeah. So, what are you getting at, Marie? Well, I'm debating because is it better that they can just throw a tarp over person one and have him on the screen? Or is it better in my brain that General Hux breaks down and then the whole ride is done? But if that's not what happens, then I'm stuck. You guys have to... We're not sure. Huh. So, I think Dan's point of...

[00:22:53] Domhnall Gleeson is a more respectable actor who is in a Disney ride, whereas Jim Cummings is practically a churro cart in every land. It's just to be expected to be there. Mm-hmm. So, perhaps Domhnall Gleeson being... Doesn't make him less respectable. Well, I'm taking the point in that Jim Cummings is an employee and Domhnall is more of a... What I'm applying to this is, like, if someone knows who both of these people are and they're,

[00:23:21] like, driving to Disneyland, you're like, oh, yeah. And there's something with Jim Cummings. And it'll be like, yeah, isn't everything Jim Cummings? Mm-hmm. And then if you say, like, oh, Domhnall Gleeson, your favorite actor is in here, it's like, oh, my God, how the hell did that happen? Yeah. Okay. So, then I'll reframe the question in a different way, Marie. As a guest going on Millennium Falcon Smuggler's Run and a guest going on Star Wars Rise of

[00:23:50] the Resistance, which one, if you took out, wouldn't have an impact on you? I don't care about Hondo. I think that General Hux is actually central to the story. He's got quite a presence. Hondo could be any other Star Battle, Star Wars person. As far as I'm concerned. It could be Eric Hux, for example. For example. Yeah, that guy. So, Domhnall Gleeson moves on to the Elite Eight.

[00:24:20] Okay. All right, next in our Lucasfilm Etcetera category is Patton Oswalt, who plays Remy the rat in Remy's Ratatouille Adventure. He is also a big Star Wars fan as an actor, which is why he's in the Lucasfilm quadrant. And in the retired, and retired as in no longer in the parks, Gary Sinise, who is in the pre-show of Mission Space. Now, you know Patton Oswalt. What are you laughing at? What is so funny? I just...

[00:24:50] His bracket is bonkers. How funny it would be if he won the whole thing. Patton Oswalt? No, Gary Sinise. Gary Sinise. All right, so Patton Oswalt, did you see Gary Sinise's version of the pre-show of Mission Space? I don't know. I don't remember. I'll just give you some context. He is also the Star Lieutenant Dan from Forrest Gump. Yes, I do know him as Lieutenant Dan. Yes. I don't remember. No.

[00:25:20] Okay. He was also quite hungover. Oh, wow. There you go. He is also a very popular voice actor and comedian, very raunchy comedian at Patton Oswalt. Raunchy? Oh, yeah. Oh. Okay. And that actually makes this bracket really interesting to me because either is interesting in its own way.

[00:25:44] Because the way Patton Oswalt ended up in Ratatouille, I don't think it would have happened if Pixar was under stricter Disney control at the time. But it was in that weird gray period where like they were, do we own it? Do we not own it? Do we care? Do we not care? And so that's fun. And I enjoy him as a comedian very much. Not that that matters. But and then there's Gary Sinise. Who is Gary Sinise? It's hilarious.

[00:26:14] You might also know him from the Gary Sinise and Lieutenant Dan band. Yeah. No. The fact that she now let me ask you this. CSI New York. What is the first time you what year approximately is the first year you rode Mission Space? 2006. So Gary Sinise was on that ride in 2006. Yeah. What does that tell you? Was he already Lieutenant Dan? I don't know. He had been Lieutenant Dan for a couple decades at that point.

[00:26:40] And some would say he's been Lieutenant Dan since because there's a lot of I'm looking at his filmography. There's so much like military and history stuff. And oh my God, Lieutenant Dan band is a thing. I thought you were joking. No. And there's a video for the Common Good. Wait, but is he in it? Oh my God. Yeah. He's Gary Sinise of Gary Sinise and the Lieutenant Dan band. Okay. Oh my God. Okay. Wait, wait, wait. We're straying. Are we though? No.

[00:27:10] Shockingly, we're straying. No, I'm bringing it back because. All right. What do you got? Gary Sinise is no longer in Mission Space. That's correct. That's correct. He was replaceable. Yes, that is correct. And by the way, replaced with the exact verbatim dialogue. They didn't change a word. Eric Idle's doing it. No, it was, what's her name? Gina Torres. Torres, yeah. Yeah.

[00:27:40] Anyway, she lost to Glenn Close. Okay. All right. So Patton Oswalt, Remy. Remy. Remy kind of needs to be in Remy. Yeah. And they didn't hire a voice sound alike like they do with Tom Hanks. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The stand. Reindeer. And you don't remember actually seeing Gary Sinise in that ride. I think that tells us that you select Platon Oswald. Captain America, the Winter Soldier. I'm going to say you're right. He was. He was in Captain America, Winter Soldier.

[00:28:09] Criminal Minds Beyond Borders. All right. Gary Sinise's distance. Also, both of these rides make me nauseous. So I'm just going to throw that out there. Remy's does. Have you written it since they took away the 3D glasses? No, I have not. But I did ride it without the 3D glasses when I was supposed to have them. And that wasn't fun. No, not as much fun. Oh, gosh. Well, Gary Sinise was potentially quite nauseous when he recorded that. So does that make it fit? Okay. We're going to move on to the Pixar quadrant.

[00:28:36] By the way, Patton Oswalt moves on to the Elite Eight along with Domhnall Gleeson, Eugene Levy, and Jennifer Lewis. Okay. In the Pixar quadrant, we have Brad Bird and Holly Hunter. Brad Bird is the director of The Incredibles, also director of The Iron Giant, director of a Mission Impossible film, I think the fourth one. He plays Edna Mode in Incredibles in the Incredicoaster. Holly Hunter plays Mrs. Incredible.

[00:29:05] You might also know her from Raising Arizona and her having her voice that is very distinct. Yes. Also, that voice made a speaker in Theater 14 at the Regal in El Cajon rattle a very certain way. Oh. Not joking. I don't know what it was. We played it in every... So I used to work in the movie theater, right? And I might have told this story before, but I don't think so on the show. I don't think so either.

[00:29:34] The Incredibles 2 came out and my boss was like... My boss was basically like a very similar personality to me, but it's like he knew... And he knew a lot of stuff like with theater stuff. So I showed up for my shift and he texted me immediately and he's like, you're here, right? I'm like, yes. He's like, okay, thank God. Meet me in Theater 14. I thought for sure it's like on fire or something. And so he's in there and he's listening. He's like just playing the movie. There's nothing in... There's no one in there.

[00:30:03] And he's like... And as soon as I walk in, he's like, wait. And Holly Hunter's voice goes... He points to the speaker in the back. He's like, do you hear that? I'm like, yes. He's like, okay, thank you. I knew you would. I've played this in every single theater. And this is the only theater in which that happens. And it's just when she talks and I don't know what it is. Just a vibration? Just something about her voice.

[00:30:31] Something about her voice and that speaker. And now anytime Holly Hunter comes up, I think of that. Okay. And hopefully you will too. Yeah. The 14th vehicle in that ride also has a funny vibration when Holly Hunter's voice comes on. Really? No, it doesn't. Okay. I didn't think so. So my thoughts are that they're both on the same ride. They're in Carter Coaster. Brad Bird is a very respected director.

[00:31:02] Not an actor, but plays Edna Mode. I don't know what his influence is on the ride, but the fact that he came on to do it, it could be anybody. Holly Hunter's got a very distinct voice and it'd be really challenging for someone to do a voiceover for her, but also equally impressive that she came back to record dialogue for this ride. So I personally am torn. I could go either way. Okay. What, Marie, is the impact from you when you're thinking about these two voice actors on the ride?

[00:31:33] Well, for me, I feel like once again, Edna Mode is central to the story. She's the one that lost the baby. She's the one that ends up with the baby. The rest of the Incredibles are in there in, you know, in the middle, but I don't know that any of them individually matters as much. Like if Mrs. Incredible wasn't there, would we all be like, but wait, where is she? Or would we be like, oh, it just doesn't matter. Interesting.

[00:31:58] And the only two characters that have a physical presence are Jack-Jack and Edna. They have physical presence in the end of the ride. Yeah. It's the last voice you hear is darling. I get what you're saying, but they all do technically at some point. Oh yeah, I suppose you're right. Except for the fast one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dash. Dash, thank you. Dash. You see him, he's physically there, Dan, you just can't see him because he's moving so fast.

[00:32:26] You can see his footprints. A lot of impaled babies in there. Played Martha in Batman versus Superman. That's right. No, she wasn't Martha. She was in Batman versus Superman. She was like a senator. Oh no, she was, was she? Oh, she was. She blew up. She got blowed up. Oh, that's right. It was so gory.

[00:32:56] Anyway, Eric, do you have an opinion on this? I think, I think, I think Brad Bird is the more interesting story. Like the inline of, Hey, did you know blah, blah, blah? Like that thing that us nerds like to do. Yeah. I mean, Edna, Edna's a more charismatic character. Yeah. But like Marie said, she's kind of influential in the attraction. She kind of, she's the inciting incident and also the conclusion. Right. And maybe that's it.

[00:33:24] I'm, I'm thinking of the end of the ride because Mrs. Incredible is barely in the ride. That's right. All of the other characters are in the ride more. Song to song. Bonnie and Clyde. All right, Marie. Swing shift. Final answer. I'm going to go with Brad Bird. Brad Bird. Mr. Man. All right. Moving on to Larry, the cable guy who plays Toe Mater in both Mater's Junkyard Jamboree

[00:33:50] and the Cars and Credit Cars, Cars Adventure. Radiator Spring Racers. Radiator Spring Racers. Yeah. I was doing this on the last episode. I just, you know, when you're on the spot and my son, he's like, yeah, good one, dad. You're the expert. I'm like, well. He was embarrassed. I couldn't remember Sally's name. Oh, he was embarrassed for you. Yeah. Well, I'm embarrassed for myself. The Cable Guys filmography includes the Blue Collar Comedy Tour, Cars, Health Inspector,

[00:34:20] Delta Farce, Witless Protection, Cars 2, Tooth Fairy 2. Cars 3. Oh, A Madea Christmas. Oh, boy. Jingle All the Way 2 and Cars 3. And Wallace Shawn, who plays Rex the Dinosaur in the Toy Story franchise and in this case Toy Story Mania. Mm-hmm. Also, he's inconceivable. Vizzini from The Princess Bride. Ah, okay.

[00:34:49] He's done a lot of other things. Again, a very distinct voice like Holly Hunter that, you know, he plays a very much a Wallace Shawn type character in everything he does. Same with Larry the Cable Guy. Both kind of one-note actors. Mm-hmm. Larry the Cable Guy, you know, an actor. I'm using the term actor loosely. Mom and dad say that. Well, he is an actor playing the part of Larry the Cable Guy. That's right. That's true. That's a good point. That is a character. Yeah. Yeah. That is technically a character. So, Marie, initial thoughts?

[00:35:19] My very first initial thought is Larry the Cable Guy has two attractions. That's correct. That's right. And I think he matters. And he sings on one. Larry the Cable Guy is on tour currently. You can see him in Corpus Christi. Oh, boy. On May 2nd. Pikeville, Kentucky. Salem, Virginia. Atlantic City, New Jersey. Can you guess what the average price is for these tickets? $5. $135. $58. About $40. Oh. I was closest.

[00:35:49] Reasonable. So, yes. Larry the Cable Guy is in two attractions at California Adventure. While LaShawn is in more than two attractions. He's in Toy Story Mania, Midway Mania. And he is in Slinky Dog Dash. Multiple parks and multiple resorts. Whereas Larry the Cable Guy is not at Disney World. But he's not the feature. Right. Well, he's the feature of Mater's Junkyard Jamboree. Right.

[00:36:16] I hate Larry the Cable Guy with a red hot steaming passion. But I would argue that Junkyard Jamboree is like the only enjoyable way to experience him. Okay. Okay. Because it's just so ridiculous. And he's just singing too loud the whole time. His songs are really good though, right? You enjoy them? You dance? Sure. Good is a word that can be used.

[00:36:43] I love that he doesn't know all the words. Yeah. Eric, what is your opinion between Larry the Cable Guy and Wallace Shawn? Larry the Cable Guy. I'd go with Larry. Why would you say that? Because he is the lead on an attraction. And he is a very recognizable character on another attraction.

[00:37:10] And he's barely in his toys. Wallace Shawn is barely in. Yeah. Fair enough. The Toy Story stuff. Dan? Similar question. I think what I'm trying to say is that if we are going to have a Larry the Cable Guy in our world, then this is the place that he should be. But nowhere else. Okay. Okay. What was your question? You answered it. So Marie? Yes. Larry the Cable Guy? Yes.

[00:37:41] Okay. By the way, you don't have to agree with us. This isn't a democratic question. Oh, she does not think that she does. I promise you that. You are agreeing with me. And that's the way I like it. Okay. Okay. That's why she likes it. Now, let's move down to Marvel. We have Benicio Del Toro, who plays the collector in the Guardians of the Galaxy mission breakout. Yes. Yes. He's not in the ride. He's only in the pre-show. And Zoe Saldana from Cosmic Rewind, not from Mission Breakout. So let's be very clear.

[00:38:10] This is Zoe from Cosmic Rewind. Okay. Who is really barely in it. Just kind of phoned it in a little bit. Benicio Del Toro was on that pre-show, filmed a lot of stuff. Benicio is obviously a very good actor. I think the usual suspects. Zoe Saldana is in all the Avatar movies as Natiri, who's the main protagonist, Jake Sully's wife, I guess.

[00:38:36] And she's also, she plays Gamora in all the Guardians movies, the green one. Okay. I know her as the green one. Okay. She's the green one in Marvel. She's the blue one in Avatar. Never seen it. Okay. Star Trek, she's the red one. Oh, that's right. In Star Wars, she'll be the- No, I think she's a brown one in Star Trek. I don't think you're allowed to say that. No, I'm sorry. Okay.

[00:39:03] Eric, what are your thoughts on Benicio versus Zoe? Let's get off this subject. Benicio has a statue. I mean- That's true. I mean, that's not his acting performance, I suppose. So, fun little tangent real quick. We were listening to the last episode on the way home today, where Dina could fill in the bracket.

[00:39:28] And we came to the first round of Disney IP, and I had thrown Donald Trump in the Tiana section, and I said, Donald Trump because he loves black people. Oh, no. And then in the next thing, I was like, I'm going to tread very lightly. She's like, you've already stomped. I was like, no, he says all the time he loves black people. He says it all the time. Just quoting the man. Anyway, moving back. He's lucky if not honest. He says it like it is. Right, guys? Uh-huh. That's what happens. Okay.

[00:39:57] Yeah, so Eric, do you have an opinion on- Moving away from this one. So Benicio has a statue where you left it. Yes, Benicio has a statue. He's got a very real presence in there. He seems like he's invested in it. He showed up for the unveiling of the ride. Hmm. As Benicio, strangely enough, not as the collector. Oh. But- I don't know. Okay. Yeah.

[00:40:26] Dan, do you have opinions about these two? Um, I don't know. I think- I think with Benicio, what it comes down to for me is that after- What's the raccoon's name? Rocket. After he mutes him, you can- You know Benicio is still delivering the same amount of intensity. He's still in his mood form. I love that so much. That's a good point. And he- But he also doesn't go over the top into ridiculousness.

[00:40:56] It's just, you can kind of tell what he's talking about. You think he's probably saying increasingly unhinged things. Mm-hmm. But because it's the character that it is, we don't see a lot of physicality. Like, doing- It's just- It's just- He's just a delightful presence in that ride. That's a good point. Whereas Zoe Saldana is just like, I'm Zamora, Gamora, or whatever her name is, and here I am. Like, it's just not bad.

[00:41:26] It's just like, it doesn't make a difference. Okay. Marie? Yeah, I agree with that. I don't care that Zamora, Gamora, whatever, Green Lady is there or not there. She doesn't matter to me. I love Benicio del Toro's part in the pre-show. And I don't know if this is true, but I read while I was thinking about this that when we're exiting the gift shop, it's actually his stuff that we are buying. I love that. So he's at the beginning. He's at the end.

[00:41:55] I have a thing for celebrities at the beginning and end. I don't know. Okay, that's cool. Benicio del Toro moves on to the Elite Eight, and he will challenge either Glenn Close or Terry Crews, both of which are in the pre-show of Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Cosmic Rewind. Glenn Close is a very famous actress.

[00:42:19] She should not need any introduction, but in case she does, she is Cruella de Vil from 101 and 102 Dalmatians. Was she in anything else? Because that's all I know her from. Sunset Boulevard. Basically nothing else. She wasn't really as much. She's an incredibly good actress. She hasn't done much. Terry Crews, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, I believe. He is the gentleman at the beginning of the pre-show. He's kind of funny. Both are in the pre-show of the same ride. Yes.

[00:42:48] So, Terry Crews, former NFL player, also Brooklyn Nine-Nine, he became a very funny actor and does a wonderful job in the pre-show of Cosmic Rewind. Glenn Close was in The Elephant Man? What the hell? Yeah. What, the Lynch one? Yeah. She was in that? I don't remember that. I thought that we didn't hurt the whole time. So, I really don't have any strong opinions about these two. You guys can try to convince me either way.

[00:43:15] I have something that I can never not notice in that attraction. Okay. And that is that Glenn Close is very clearly reading off of a cue card that is outside of the, it's not a teleprompter in front of the camera. It's somewhere in the corner. Okay, let me. And she does not know her lines. Oh.

[00:43:44] But let me, let me add, she's playing a politician. That's right. And would, is it possible that that's a character choice? She is a good actress. That's a good, that's a good take. So, a couple of things, just to give you some color. So, because Dan hasn't been on the ride. Glenn Close is kind of like a poor man's Meryl Streep. Mm. Right? How dare you? What? And so the fact that kind of. I get what you're saying. B-roll Meryl Streep.

[00:44:14] Is in this. It's like how I, like I used to call Sandra, Sandra, Sandra. Bullock. Bullock. Not Julia Roberts. What? That's right. Glenn Close is not Meryl Streep. That's right. Sorry, Marie, do you want to unpack that? Those are not the same. Those are not the same thing. I think what he's trying to get at is an archetype of a romantic comedy. Ah. So, it's like, okay, should we, could we, who would be good in this role?

[00:44:43] Well, Julia Roberts would be fantastic. She's not going to answer. She's not available. Sandra Bullock could be good, though. Okay. Sandra Bullock is a good period. She's good. No doubt. She's fine. Saying the same thing, Marie. Glenn Close is really good, but she's not Meryl Streep. Okay, we don't have to write about this today, but we're going to revisit this another time. And then, sorry, who played Catwoman? Remind me. Which one? Halle Berry? No. No. No. Oh, Anne Hathaway.

[00:45:12] Anne Hathaway is, following this math, not Sandra Bullock. Oh, interesting. I think that's, all right. Anyway. All right. So, if you, listener, if you understand what we're saying, you're shaking your, you're nodding your head. No, you're shaking your head. Okay. So, Glenn Close, Glenn Close is that. Put your head in a circle. Terry Crews is not phoning it in at all. He's really performing this thing. Epcot-terians, Epcot-tians.

[00:45:41] You're supposed to tell me when I'm on, et cetera, et cetera. Just for context. I have no opinion. So, that's really all I remember from the pre-show in this attraction. I remember him and him being really funny and me laughing all four or five times I've done this attraction. Okay. I remember Glenn Close being there, but I don't really remember what she said or what she did or why she mattered. So, I didn't know the track for you. I know we don't usually like to do this, but let me throw this out.

[00:46:11] Glenn Close versus Benicio Del Toro as opposed to Terry Crews versus Benicio Del Toro. Hmm. I think the first one's more interesting. Maybe. But, so, Meryl Streep is actually in the Guardians of the Galaxy movie. She plays that same character. She's like the president of this planet. Glenn Close. Glenn Close. Yeah. I remember her from the movie. Yeah. So, she's reprising her role. What did I say?

[00:46:40] Again, not Meryl Streep. Did I say Meryl Streep? You said Meryl Streep. Yeah. Glenn Close is not Meryl Streep. Not Meryl Streep. There we go. So, if Meryl Streep was doing this, I think it's a no-brainer. But what you're getting at is the memorable part between these two performances, Marie, for you is Terry Crews. For me, it is. Yes. All right. So, I think that's the answer. All right. That's the Elite Eight. Let's move on. We're going back to the Disney IP.

[00:47:08] Jennifer Lewis, Mama Odie, Eugene Levy, Eugene Levy. Mama Odie, Tiana's Bayou Adventure, and two versions. And Eugene Levy, who plays himself in a subpar Canada 360 film. Okay. Are we doing more debate, or do you just want me to pick somebody? I just want you to pick somebody. Jennifer Lewis. But you have to tell us why.

[00:47:35] Because, once again, she is central to the attraction. So, Eugene Levy could be swapped out for any other Canadian. Any Canadian. Jennifer Lewis needs to be there as Mama Odie. Eric Idle. Okay. Okay. Excellent. Very well done. Very well reasoned. And, by the way, Jennifer Lewis is more likely to be on our show. That's right. If we want to circle back to the original. We just needed to eliminate 64, Dan. That argument's done. All right.

[00:48:02] So, Luke's film section, Domhnall Gleeson as General Hux, Patton Oswalt as Remy the Rat. Ooh. That's tough, because they are both important to their stories. But Remy is the attraction, not just a piece of the attraction. So, I'm going to have to go with- This is about the celebrity. The celebrity-ness of the thing. Okay. But then I have to remember who these celebrities are as celebrities.

[00:48:30] I think they're both equally interesting in their own ways. Mm-hmm. I mean, you're the judge. So, whatever you say is correct. But if we're- Regardless if I'm judging or not, that's true. That's fair. This is the best celebrity in a Disney pre-show attraction ride show, et cetera. Okay. So, celebrity-wise, that would be Domhnall Gleeson, because people know him as a celebrity more than Patton Oswalt, who's a director.

[00:49:00] Did I track this correctly? Patton Oswalt is a comedian. I think it's- Oh, comedian. For different audiences, it's kind of neck and neck. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it depends on the audience. Yeah, they both have very strong, I can't believe it's actually that guy energy in terms of them being there. Okay. Not in the audience base. Hmm. Because Patton's done a lot of stuff. I mean, he did MST3K. He's done-

[00:49:29] A lot of stand-up specials. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of specials. And we're surprised he's there, because Disney wouldn't normally allow this person to be part of their projects. That's right. There is that, but Domhnall, in his own way, kind of has a little bit of that, too. Yeah. Yeah. He's more of a dramatic actor. If all things are equal, then Marie, back to your point, is that we don't have a Remy attraction without Patton Oswalt, and you don't need General Hux for a Star Wars ride.

[00:49:59] That's what I would go with, yes. Patton Oswalt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Patton Oswalt. And I think we can probably assume that Patton Oswalt was more excited to do this job than Domhnall Gleeson. Probably. All right. And we can probably get Patton Oswalt on the show. We're probably good. Moving to whoever wins this is going to be on the show. Well, we should definitely try. Genuinely try.

[00:50:27] I mean, you got me here, so your chances are pretty good. That's right. So back to Pixar. Brad Bird or Larry the Cable Guy? Oh, this is so hard. Brad Bird and Larry the Cable Guy. Oh, I don't like this. Why is Dan laughing? Dan, what's funny? Does he think it's just funny? Those words in sequence were very fun to hear. Eric, what are your opinions about Brad Bird, Larry the Cable Guy matchup?

[00:50:54] I mean, Brad Bird is like the director of so much stuff. And couldn't find it. I love the story of Edna Mode where he couldn't find somebody that could do the role the way he wanted it done. And so he just did it himself. And has created this character that's so iconic. Some could say the same about Larry the Cable Guy. He couldn't.

[00:51:25] But Larry the Cable Guy, they created a busted up truck and said, we got to get Larry the Cable Guy to do this. Mm-hmm. Hmm. He wasn't in charge of the project. That's fair. And both of them are so, I guess, Larry, I guess, I mean. All right, I'm going to rephrase the question.

[00:51:52] Brad Bird as Edna Mode versus Larry the Cable Guy as Toe Mater. Yeah. Mater, it has multiple appearances. Yeah, I think. Go ahead, Dan. The tow truck ride, I really think that they just like opened the mic, pressed record, turned on some music here and there. And they were like, okay, just kind of do your thing.

[00:52:22] Now, that's not to say that I like Larry the Cable Guy. Again, I do not. But the occasional drift into unhinged energy that that ride can have is actually pretty fun. And I think that that comes from him. Mm-hmm. Let me ask another question. If at the end of this, we have announced the best celebrity in any Disney ride, show, or attraction.

[00:52:52] Larry the Cable Guy? There is a scenario where that is the case. So I'm going to ask the question again. Brad Bird or Larry the Cable Guy? I mean, when you put it that way, I have to go with Larry the Cable Guy. Okay. I think I agree with that. And to be fair, Brad Bird isn't really a celebrity. He's a celebrity like Steven Spielberg is a celebrity. Right. We could get Larry the Cable Guy for like 40 bucks. 40 bucks. He probably is on Cameo.

[00:53:19] And we can do like $200 for an hour. Oh, God. Oh, I just wrote Larry Bird. Oops. Larry the Cable Guy. Larry Bird. We can get Larry Bird too. A $200 Cameo for an hour. He has to come on the show. Larry Bird, what do you think? Benicio Del Toro or Terry Crews? All right. He's not on. He's not on. Okay. All right.

[00:53:47] Now, Benicio Del Toro as the collector or Terry Crews as the unnamed galactic guy from Cosmic Rewind. I'm sure he is. He's got a name. I can't remember what it is. Captain something. They're kind of inversions of the same idea of a character. In that? In that. They're kind of like in charge of stuff.

[00:54:17] I don't know. I haven't been on the other ride. Fair enough. My impression is that. He's more of a lackey. Okay. Well, there we go. Yeah, there you go. I think I like Del Toro's performance better. Yeah. Terry Crews is fun. It feels very. It's scripted, but it feels a little bit improv. Yeah. After a fashion. Del Toro. There are things that I love, like when the weird way he takes off his glasses. Yeah.

[00:54:47] Like that. That just sticks in my head. Yeah, that's good. Terry Crews is just like, what do they call themselves? And you know, he didn't. Like that was not a direction. That's a Benicio thing with the glasses. Right. And I think also he's falling. He falls into that really perfect celebrity Venn diagram place where it's like, it's really fun and interesting and cool that he's there.

[00:55:12] And there's definitely a sense of like, oh, wow, they got, they got him to do the thing. And he probably didn't have to do it. He probably wanted to do it. And at the same time, he has a strong like credibility where he is kind of over it. Like he, he didn't need to be there, but he is. And it's interesting. And he does a good job and all the things I think, I think. Yeah. I think he's, he, for me, he wins this one. Marie. Marie. I agree.

[00:55:43] And not because I have to, I actually agree. And you don't have to. Here, say more words. All right. We are down to the final four. The final four in the West. We have Jennifer Lewis as Mama Odie on Tiana's Bayou Adventure and Patton Oswald as Remy, the rat in Remy's Ratatouille Adventure. Both rides have the term adventure. One is a Bayou Adventure. One's a Ratatouille Adventure. Oh.

[00:56:13] Irrelevant, but fun. One's International. One is International. You've got Remy in both Disney Studios, Paris, Adventure World, whatever it's called now. And that's Remy's, that Remy, yeah. Also, Patton presumably speaks French and English, unless it was a voiceover person, I don't know. Jennifer Lewis has also two attractions, not bi-coastal, not international.

[00:56:42] Okay, we shrink down to Critter Size in both of them. That we do. That we do. That's very well put. Very astute. I'm going to go with Jennifer Lewis because she doesn't make me nauseous. That's my rationale. Jennifer Lewis. Jennifer Lewis is in the National Championship of Best Celebrity. And also because I think she does a really great job. And I...

[00:57:12] And she does. Yeah. I... And she, we all assume she's old, but she's not that old. Yes, I love that too. And she was even younger when she played the thing on the cartoon. Okay, now in the East, we have Larry the Cable Guy as Toe Mater. And Benicio Del Toro as the Collector. This is a weird match. Both wonderful in such different ways.

[00:57:39] Larry is a Toe Mater in two attractions. Benicio in the same park, by the way. All three of these attractions are all in the same park. Larry the Cable Guy plays Toe Mater in two attractions. Benicio Del Toro does the pre-show. And as you pointed out, Marie, the final. You're in his collection purchasing his goods. Benicio Del Toro or Larry the Cable Guy?

[00:58:08] Oh, Benicio's in the queue as well, isn't he? Well, he's in the pre-show. Yeah, yeah. In the queue, yeah. No, no, I meant like outside when they play his collection of music and sounds. Oh, interesting, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Larry also in the pre-show of his ride. Right. Oof. Oh, this is so tough. They both have their own ride, yeah.

[00:58:38] Well, yeah, after a fashion. Kinda. But Larry the Cable Guy has two attractions, and he is the attraction for one of those attractions. Named after his character. Correct. Yeah, it's Mater's Junkyard Jamboree. And it's also the Guardian's is in the Collector's Palace. Oh, I'm not saying you're wrong, but let me still just push back for the argument's sake. Okay. We could say the same about Tony Shalhoub. He's not in this.

[00:59:08] He does have a right. Well, he got voted out in the first round. Right. I'm just saying that, like, it's not... I don't know if that's going to be... I think that that is a qualification, but I think it's not a strong qualification. Okay. Because of Luigi's... People have the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm not saying, again...

[00:59:32] I honestly can't pick a winner between these two other than I think if we go with... I think one is a clearer winner against Jennifer Lewis. Mm-hmm. Best Celebrity in a Disney theme park ride show attraction. Which performance do you enjoy... Oh, am I frozen? No. No? You're fine.

[01:00:00] Which performance do you enjoy more? Do you enjoy Benicio Del Toro's Collector performance or Larry the Cable Guy's Toe Mater performance? Okay. That's really hard because I... Benicio gets muted and I don't want him to. And Mater doesn't get muted. And you want him to. And you kind of want him to. At times. At times. I think that answers your question. That's right.

[01:00:24] I also think that just my own spin on this is that I don't see myself ever being annoyed by Benicio Del Toro's presence. Mm-hmm. When he comes on the show. But... When he comes on the show. But at the same time, I think Larry the Cable Guy's presence is supposed to be annoying. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And he's got more... He does it well. ...content. Yeah.

[01:00:54] He's got multiple songs. Mm-hmm. We've got seasonal overlays. We can do Halloween. Right. Or Halloween. Halloween. And then he's got Christmas stuff. Well, by the way, Guardians also has an overlay. It does. It's the same thing with Benicio. But it doesn't have Benicio. No, he doesn't have anything new. It's the same thing. It doesn't. And that makes it creepier, actually. True. True. When someone asks you, Marie, what did you do on Sunday?

[01:01:24] And you said, I recorded a podcast where I decided the best celebrity cameo in any Disney theme park ride show or attractions. And I chose... Uh-huh. This is really changing my mind now. And... I've reframed this like 14 different times, so...

[01:01:45] And we all know that at least one of the three of us of the regular hosts will say that Marie was the one that chose this. Yeah. Yeah. Larry, I'm sorry. You've got to go. Oh. Oh. Okay. So, here we are in our final matchup to decide the best celebrity cameo in any Disney theme

[01:02:13] park ride show or attraction in the United States is either Benicio Del Toro as the collector in Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout or Jennifer Lewis as Mama Odie in Tiana's Bayou Adventure. Sure. It's got to be Jennifer Lewis. And tell us why. It's got to be. Because. What? Because. Wait. What? Because.

[01:02:42] You just blew us all away. Oh, she did. Okay. All of our wings are gone. Hold on. I need a moment. Okay. Well, while he's taking a moment, I'm going to just paint the picture one more time. Marie, what did you do on Sunday? Well, I recorded a podcast where I decided the best celebrity cameo in any Disney theme park ride show or attractions. Scenario one. Who'd you choose? Jennifer Lewis. Who? Scenario two.

[01:03:12] Benicio Del Toro. Oh, that's cool. I didn't know he was in that. Anyway, go ahead. I'm glad that I made you all lose your minds because I was really just messing with you. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. It's the collector. Let me see what. We're getting collected. Let me see what the robot says just for fun. Who the best Disney theme park? Yeah. Okay. Final matchup. Jennifer Lewis versus Benicio Del Toro. Why did I think about that? Okay. Hold on.

[01:03:41] Let me put my spectacles. Keaton. I'm going to get coin purse out and pull out. Go on. So Jennifer Lewis makes sense. But at full volume, Benicio Del Toro is why are you in this at all? Yeah. Lewis is correct. Casting. Del Toro is confusing. Casting. Schroding. Schrodinger's respectability. Lewis is fully committed. No ambiguity. Del Toro feels like he wandered in from a different movie. Trump ripple confidence as reality. Lewis treats everything like it's the most important thing ever.

[01:04:11] Del Toro treats nothing like it's important. Even when it is. Celebrity aura effect. Lewis expands the space she's in. Del Toro shrinks into it in a weird way. Commitment gap. Lewis is giving 150% to everything. Del Toro is giving 25%, 300% impossible to tell. Chaos value. Lewis is loud chaos. Del Toro is quiet, confusing chaos. Final contradiction. Lewis wins because she fully commits. Del Toro wins because we cannot tell what he's doing. All right.

[01:04:40] Uh, final lean that the robot says is Del Toro because at the highest level of this bracket being explainable becomes a liability. So, I think, you know, if we look back to the 64 original names on this list, many of them, you know, are good contenders. But when you think about Disney theme parks, ride shows, attractions, or whatever, a lot of these people can kind of be explained away. Like Kristen Bell's in the Frozen ride.

[01:05:09] Of course she is. Um, you know, Jim Cummings of it all. Domhnall Gleeson, that's really interesting. You know, I could see that. But it feels like Benicio is the most, is the most interesting of all the celebrities. Not only because of his performance, but because of his sort of his, his presence and clout in Hollywood. And it just doesn't make any sense to be in any Disney ride. Um, so I think, you know. Much less to have a statue of him outside. Have a statue, have the, the, the whole pre-show of it all.

[01:05:39] I just think that it's a really interesting and, and rightful winner, I think, of this, this whole thing. It makes a lot of sense. Yeah, that's why I chose it. Just, I chose it. Benicio Del Toro enthusiastically reprised his role as Tantalier Tavan. Uh, he filmed scenes specifically for the ride and described seeing a statue of his character as bizarre and surreal. Act of participation. He filmed new footage, uh, enthusiasm. He was heavily involved. Character entered, uh, okay.

[01:06:07] Uh, he was spotted filling in, uh, 2016 wearing the white hair piece. I do remember him being like very involved with the opening of this and like, like. But he was playing, he didn't need to do this. Yeah. At the opening. Yeah. And he. Yeah. I think. But he was probably playing a little bit of the collector. Maybe.

[01:06:36] I remember him being quite drunk at the footage. Yeah. It's been a while since I watched that video. Go ahead, Marie. So, Marie. Yes. Thank you for that. That was awesome. Well done. Well played. You were very engaging and charming. Thank you. Thank you. Um, and where, so we talked about the, the spokes. Mm-hmm. The spokes walk. Spokes run. Or just the spokes. It's opposite of hub crawl. Just spokes. It's just.

[01:07:05] Where, where can people listen to the spokes podcast? I'm pretty sure the spokes comes out, uh, on all of the podcast things. Eric, you're our producer. Yes. It, it is, it is on all the podcast things, um, that, that I know of. And how often does it release? So, every other week we are opposite the hub crawl.

[01:07:30] So, every other Friday you will hear either spokes or the hub crawl. And, and the spokes the following Friday is in response to the hub crawl the previous Friday. Correct. That's really fun. Um, and concierging is going well. And thank you for all of the, the support you've given to me over the years on that. Oh yeah. And if somebody wanted to reach out to you to plan their vacation, and by the way, um, like we talked about, I do a good job planning. Like I like the, here's the detail.

[01:08:00] Here's where you go. All that kind of stuff. I enjoy that part of it, which I'm sure you do as well. And you're very good at it. But you have developed or been part of developing a, a vacation planning tool that is beyond anything that I have the capacity for. And I want you to kind of share some of the tools that you have helped build and that you provide to your clients. Well, I have not been as, uh, influential in the build as some of our other planners. So I've been very fortunate. They're not on the show. Yeah.

[01:08:29] I've been very fortunate that they've done actually most of the work. Um, but it is called turn. It is, uh, an app that you can have on your phone. There is also a website. So we basically put your entire itinerary there from your flight, if you're flying, um, to your vacation and your flight home and everything in between. Uh, so we have a lot of information in there. We send out a lot of updates about things to look forward to, um, events that are happening during your vacation.

[01:08:58] Again, if you're flying, we're going to have your flights in there. We're going to have your shuttle or whatever transfers you need to and from your trip. Um, if you're doing cruises, we've got a lot of information for basically every destination and I don't just do Disney. So there's that too. So the app is your entire agenda all in one. Like here's what's happening next and you're going here and you're going there. Now I assume that doesn't interface with the, with the Disney apps. So like if you have a, uh, a lightning lane, that's not going to be in the turn thing per

[01:09:27] se, but where you're staying that night will be and where you're having dinner and a pre predetermined reservation. Yep, exactly. So you will still need your Disney app for, uh, your lightning lanes, your tickets, all of those things. But this is another piece to see your overall trip. That's the kind of thing you can get with Marie as a vacation planner. I'm sure that's true with many other vacation planners, but I can't speak to them because they're not on the show. So, uh, Marie, if somebody wanted to reach out to you to plan their next Disney universal

[01:09:57] cruise ship, Disneyland Paris, whatever vacation, how do they reach you? Um, you can reach me through the concierge website. You can call Jimmy or you can find me on Instagram. Cause I'll refer you. My Instagram is land world. See with Marie. There's underscores under all of those words. Um, I am not super active there. So DM me and be patient. Or you can call eight, five, six hour ears. No, that's not the thing anymore. No, it's not. We don't have a phone number anymore.

[01:10:27] Yeah. Oh, we should do it anyway. Concierge.com forward slash eight, five, six hour years. Okay. By the way, any listeners, if you want to create a podcast called the district resort, let us know. Okay. Um, excuse me. I have been sitting for 10 consecutive hours, so I need to stand up and move around. So without further ado, Dan, Eric, do you have anything else to add?

[01:10:56] Um, listener, try standing up. It's fun. It's good for you. Oh, standing is the best. Indeed. Indeed. Well, I want to thank Marie, uh, Concierge Marie for joining us on this episode and being our guest Supreme Judge for the best Disney, excuse me, the best celebrity cameo in any Disney ride show or attraction. Marie has decided it is Benicio Del Toro as the collector, a very wise and astute, accurate choice. He will be on next week's episode.

[01:11:25] He will be on next week's episode. Um, very much like we said, Tag would be on this week's episode. And we also said it would be next week and that was a month ago. Unlike me, he will not be a last resort. Oh no, you were the second resort. To be fair. That's a good name for our, for our, uh, the last resort, the last resort. Oh, I like that. Yeah. Cause it's the last episode of the Supreme Resort or I'm listening to this as a last resort cause I'm so bored.

[01:11:52] Or we're doing this as a last resort as podcast hosts because someone decided that Spokes would be the better one to do. I love it. All right. Awesome. Well, thank you everybody for listening. Have a wonderful week, wonderful day. Be good to each other. And until next time, the resort is adjourned.

[01:12:45] Did it? No. I think so. Okay. Oh, you don't think so? You don't agree? I agree. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. I think it was good. I just, I'm so uncomfortable guys. That's not even, I just, I was pushing through it cause I just, I don't do well sitting. And I've been doing it for a long time. Yeah. Oh gosh. You've been in a car for so long. Yeah. I get it. It was, it was a lot. Um, but anyway, thanks Marie. You're welcome. Thank you. It's good to see you. I want to catch up. Do you?

[01:13:15] I do. I do. Things are normal. You have one of these things. I do. I do. And I know I have to respond to your message. We do have like chats with Marie. Well, it's true. I just, things are normalizing for me a little bit more. Um, this is kind of the culmination of, of, you know, 18 weeks of travel and discovery. And I think I'm kind of, things are normalizing. So. Okay. I, here, let me, let me stop.