The Case of 2023: Wrapping Up News and Trips

[00:00:00] Welcome to the Supreme Resort Landview World.

[00:00:15] A podcast, I have to do it in this nice pleasant voice with this music.

[00:00:21] Hi there.

[00:00:22] Welcome to the Supreme Resort Landview World.

[00:00:23] A podcast about Disneyland and Wild Disney's Eve. Okay. Awesome. In that special

[00:01:45] way that parents do, I think I messaged you who know the Disneyland Resort, the Downtown Disney parking traditionally is near Downtown Disney, kind of the entrances over there where the ESPN zone and Rainforest Cafe were, right? We parked over on the other side of Pixar Pier Hotel.

[00:03:02] It took us a very long time to get into the parking lot.

[00:03:06] When we got there, they just charged $10 to park to get a free of fireworks show essentially. We got in, we waited through security, obviously. We got in there and we didn't wait in line for anything. There was no line for anything. We walked into Lego store,

[00:04:21] not a line. We waited in line for a churro, no line. Carmel apple. That's a good one. Apple. I don't call it caramel. I just call it a caramel apple. Carmel apple. Dapple. And in Illinois, we had a brand called F E. Tepel. Mm. I think that might be the only.

[00:05:43] Time I've heard any like any Utah in your speaking.

[00:06:44] And most mail, well, you know, we have a lot of Utah listeners. I'm going to leave it alone.

[00:06:45] That's fine.

[00:06:45] Go fry sauce.

[00:06:46] Anyway.

[00:06:48] Yeah, I say just to be clear, I'm not, I'm not making fun of it.

[00:06:51] I'm not saying it to be critical.

[00:06:52] I just know it's just interesting to me.

[00:06:54] It's just one of those things.

[00:06:55] Yeah.

[00:06:55] But by the way, listener, before I get back into it,

[00:06:58] this if you haven't been able to tell you

[00:07:00] that this is a sidebar episode.

[00:07:02] We're doing year in roundup because at some point, Michael

[00:07:06] Eisner will say hello to the new year.

[00:07:08] Happy new year, oh, yes. But you weren't in a park. And maybe that's why I just, I guess it's the bubble.

[00:08:21] And I know that you do really like the bubble.

[00:08:23] I do like the bubble.

[00:08:24] I enjoy a bubble as well.

[00:08:26] I don't like it.

[00:08:27] You don't like the bubble? to go do my Disney thing. Not it's constant. I like it. I like it being something that it's like a sweet and sour thing. It's like, Oh, now I get a little bit of this and I get a little bit of that. I just step out of it and I get to step back in. But again, I'm not saying either of you are wrong. It's just experience.

[00:09:42] It's an opinion and it's of the moment. So there where it's like, I can be in the real world and then when I'm ready, I can just go do my thing and get immersed. I don't like to be reminded of the real world because I'm an escapist. Hence the copious amounts of alcohol I used to drink. Let me just point that

[00:12:23] anyway. So yeah, I was just taking it back for I've heard be our guest 15,000 different ways. I just need a reminder that real things exist. That's all I need. I mean, having stayed the one time I stayed at the Grand California with a park view or a downtown Disney view, that music clicks on at 7 a.m. and yeah, so a couple of things, Dan, you'll forgive me, Dan, for the listener. Dan and I drove, it was with my then girlfriend now wife, we were former guest of the show. We were driving down I-75 and we crossed over the Swanee River, the world famous Swanee River.

[00:14:44] California adventure behind us at this point that says, for our East Coast family at Disney World,

[00:14:48] then they counted down to the new year,

[00:14:49] we all counted down, kisses all around,

[00:14:51] and they played the music in the Esplanade for the fireworks,

[00:14:55] which I thought was a really nice touch

[00:14:56] that I did not expect.

[00:14:57] Wow.

[00:14:58] I don't know if they do that every night,

[00:14:59] but they did it that night,

[00:15:00] and it was a great, for $10, it was phenomenal.

[00:15:03] It was just a great experience.

[00:15:05] I don't think they do that every night.

[00:15:06] Well, the speaking of crimes, Eric went to knots for the first time. And Jimmy, I think went to knots, but I'm not sure. Oh, I also went to knots with Eric, not my first time because I'm cool. But I have any of your past now. Yeah, we both do.

[00:16:22] And Eric, what were like, you guys are old, we're not gonna hang with you. Yeah, please stop following us around. We're like, all right, teens. But you're cool. I was shocked at, we'll just start out here at Ghost Rider.

[00:17:41] I was shocked at how inefficient knots is.

[00:17:45] Yeah, it sure is.

[00:17:46] My goodness, if you look just give it. Oh, yeah. And she took her jacket off and she just gave me a look like it's go time. It's so gross. This is happening. So to that end, guys, as we were in Southern California prior to the New Year's weekend,

[00:19:03] and we were looking to Disneyland, it was $1, person with the entertainment book. And sitting at dinner at the Five Crowns in Corona Del Mar, it's a Lower East Primary restaurant. I'm sitting there. My kids have been sick. One of them has been sick since November. My wife found an off sick. 10 year olds on an off sick. Can I sit there at dinner? I'm like, I made it through.

[00:20:21] Didn't get sick.

[00:20:25] The next morning, you all know how it went. We did not go to Knott's Berry Farm.

[00:21:30] for cook. This is barely themed. And this is a barn. I'm like feet inside the park. And this is the first thing that we do. And Tom joined us in line. Tom came a half an

[00:21:37] hour after us and joined us in the line, our way through. And then toughed it out for the

[00:21:43] rest of the ride. We were standing so long that when I started walking up the stairs It's because it's normal and again, it's like I'm not trying to be critical about it It's that's just how it is when you go there. It's just like oh, yeah Like my party is up there and to be fair the party is eventually up there. Oh, yes Yeah, and is this the same Tom that we know and love?

[00:23:04] Yeah, founder of the the court is adjourned. Yes. Yes. That's Tom. Hi Tom

[00:24:01] I'm just holding on to this. What does that even mark?

[00:24:04] Like you're turning right,

[00:24:06] but the cart is leaning left.

[00:24:09] Oh.

[00:24:10] And you're going.

[00:24:11] Interesting.

[00:24:12] There's nothing's holding on to this car.

[00:24:15] If this is not a tubular steel roller coaster

[00:24:17] where you feel like the car can't leave,

[00:24:20] it feels like it's gonna,

[00:24:22] and you know it's not gonna actually go off the rails.

[00:24:24] Well, do you know that?

[00:24:25] You're right, I don't.

[00:24:27] And we were in the front and sounds. We learned about... We saw a show. Yes, we saw it. That's right. We saw a show. We learned about so many things from the Notzbury Farmancer, man. Oh gosh, that museum, that guy was... You were right, Dan. He want to. So, yeah, I guess the point is we have annual passes. Eric knows what's cool. Yeah. And there we go. All right. So to be fair, to the listener, if you have not ever gone to knots and this being my first time,

[00:27:00] I was amazed because Dan's like, you probably want to get an annual pass.

[00:27:05] Like, I don't know.

[00:27:06] I'm probably only going to go the to Knott's Berry Farm? I will go back to Knott's Berry Farm and I might even go on another ride. Mm. Calico Mine Train, by the way. Oh, weirdest. Yes. Weirdest thing. Just again. It is weird.

[00:28:20] It's a bunch of statues going,

[00:28:21] oh, at you.

[00:28:24] Now, and have we spoken about the relevance

[00:28:28] to the, sorry, you, and I feel like you go to knots because it's weird, right? And that's what I was trying to convey is it's like, I can't really tell you that it's good, but it's definitely weird. It's like, it's like, it's like, if Disneyland was Vegas,

[00:29:41] knots would be lawful. And it's like, you, but you go there for Disneyland. I did go to Disneyland that night. There you go. I got back. I watched in the park. It is such a salve, right? Yeah, it was nice. It was very busy. It was right before Christmas. And yeah, very busy night, but then I walked through the park real quick,

[00:31:02] got on a couple rides.

[00:31:04] I think that was None. But I did have a kale salad. That's right. You don't want to be salad with kale. With kale. Follow up question, how many times were you welcomed home?

[00:32:21] None.

[00:32:22] You said welcome home when I went in.

[00:32:24] Even when you checked in.

[00:32:25] Yep.

[00:32:26] Wow.

[00:32:27] Now there is a sign out front from experience. this with one of the workers, they're like, no, it's part of the policy, it's a meeting. If we don't say welcome to Subway within a certain number of seconds and you're technically in trouble. Wow. That's amazing. And so because of that, the most unwelcome, welcome to Subway would be chanted over and the from years up, he is going with his family to Disneyland for the first time in a long time and I want to go into the detail that I put into helping him plan his trip. Right. Well, I- And try to make his experience the best possible. Yeah, and to help you, if you, you know, if you listen, I'm sure there's at least a few of you who still haven't been back or maybe you just want to hear certain nerdy details

[00:36:21] that we've come up with.

[00:36:23] It's been I think,

[00:37:42] you are the 999 happy hunts. One might argue that he's not a happy hunt. I don't know. Do you guys have a take on that? I get what people have said about that. I don't know that I care. I mean, there was always, there's always a floating candelabra back there. Like, there are spooky things happening before the seance.

[00:39:03] You just don't see a physical ghost.

[00:39:05] That's true. and somebody got hit on the, I forget what it was on the bridge, but, um, so BMAX San Francisco, what are your thoughts on San Francisco and so Q Dan? I think that if it, it, it feels like it may as well have always been like that is the best way that I can put it and, and not in the sense of like, why wasn't it always like this? It's like,. Yeah, I thought it was fantastic. Just scratching the surface, but you've got Moana, of course, that's not the journey of water part with Moana, meet and greet, figment is back, Mirabelle's at the Magic Kingdom.

[00:41:40] So new characters, that is my number one highlight for 2023.

[00:41:44] All right, New Year, New Year, new characters.

[00:42:41] in collections just open. And it was basically like you walked into a flea market.

[00:42:46] Very unattractive, very,

[00:42:48] not to say anything about the people,

[00:42:50] it just did not look good for them.

[00:42:51] Yeah, it was gonna say some of them were pretty good looking.

[00:42:53] Some of them were, but ugly though.

[00:42:55] I mean, you've seen people, they've, they range, right?

[00:42:58] Yeah, that's how people are.

[00:43:00] That's how people are.

[00:43:03] Disney in November, what's very interesting is in October, But apparently there are all these, there have been knockoffs and it's been a problem. And Disneyland basically said, those benches are ours. Stop it. Which, So is it, Was it a revenue issue or is it a distraction? Distraction. A public issue, distraction. And I guess some of the pin traders were,

[00:44:21] you know, kind of unruly if people would try to sit

[00:44:25] in the benches, you know,

[00:44:27] heaven forbid you sit in a bench. That's that is going to be the next thing, I think, because it's it's you could basically, you can kind of see them. You know, it's like it's it's it's like the I'm trying to I'm not gonna. Okay, so I'm too far in it. I'm just going to say I was trying to come up with a way to connect it to a joke about how if you want to become a personal trainer, you just show up at a gym and wear a shirt that says trainer on the back.

[00:46:42] what you want to pay me, I just wouldn't do it because it's just not right. I mean, I do it for friends and family and stuff, just matter of course.

[00:46:46] But another thing that I thought was interesting, not to usurp Eric's time, and again, this

[00:46:50] is not one of our top.

[00:46:52] But along the same lines, the Disney dish, the Len Testa and his team, they're constantly

[00:47:01] in the parks every day looking at how that people are taking't need it. That person doesn't need it because you don't know. And you could be right. But I'm just saying that it opens a door that is very hard to close and is not at all good to open when you start doing that. And it's sort of the, it's kind of like welfare.

[00:49:40] It's like, yeah, people are gonna take advantage of it

[00:49:43] and to some extent, like that's built in, 10 articles. Basically, I'm going to summarize the ongoing waste of time and money that is DeSantis versus Disney. There was recently a meeting to disband the Central Florida to go back to Reedy Creek. into the show notes. At least I'll put mine in. You guys just need to send me your links. Let's see. DeSantis installed new according to this article, cultural warriors who might be less interested

[00:52:20] in working with a business and more interested in

[00:52:25] pushing some sort of agenda.

[00:52:27] Big woke.

[00:52:28] Odd. forward, basically into perpetuity because the ending of this referendum that was legally passed in an open session of this group before it was changed, it lasts until 21 years after the death of the last surviving descendant of King Charles III, so basically forever.

[00:53:45] And everybody knows before he was king, right? I don't care anymore. And I think I believe, let's make a prediction now, that the really Creek Improvement District will be reinstated by the end of 2024. That's a fun. I think it will very quietly be reinstated. Maybe three days after he's out of the president.

[00:55:00] So tomorrow.

[00:55:04] Okay, don't worry, I've got plenty more stories on this.

[00:55:06] So, well, I'm cheating a little bit generally have to book except for good to go days. That's right. So that is my number four. I find this story delightful because David on Fresh Baked, this is like his white whale, and I've noticed it. He has a couple, but this is one of the big ones where

[00:56:21] anytime any good news comes up involving reservation, he hates the reservation system at Disneyland.

[00:57:28] tickets, which I assume is a thing you can do now. I don't know. But that because there are so few relatively few annual pass holders in Orlando, they're still reservation based. But is it because

[00:57:35] such a majority of the goers to Disneyland are times, California and friends. Friend of the show, Marie sent me a link saying,

[00:59:00] oh, we're gonna make you a magic key holder.

[00:59:02] Magic keys are back.

[00:59:03] Yeah, they are.

[00:59:04] Oh yeah, that's right.

[00:59:05] This is a 2024 thing, but I opened the link I mean, that's just kind of even if they don't actually need the reservation system, they need the reservation system just Even the put us in our settings satire of very annual pass holders didn't live to change the one episode. Yeah You get t-shirts made will boa. We will become obnoxious again

[01:00:22] Will boa

[01:01:25] said in that episode was most of what I said in that episode regarding how I feel about the show was absolutely true.

[01:01:28] I, again, it's not hard to make this happen, but I cried when I heard this because the story

[01:01:38] of this dragon is so, if you know the story It was just like this cool thing. And then to hear, yeah, the dragon burned up and there's no way they can use it again. story for me, Fantasmic is returning May 24th of this year. It originally opened on May 13th some years ago. So I don't want to say that this means they might push to open it a little bit early. But if you happen to be planning to look up every time because it rolls off the tongue. Just flows right out of my brain the second I say it. Eric, can you refresh my memory? Is he the one that looks like he is afraid that someone might find his browser history?

[01:05:40] Or is he the one that looks like the person

[01:05:44] who made the things that that person consumes? Basically being in charge of the ethics commission, he's not allowed to hold any other public office. And this is a public office. So a judge had to tell him, you need to pick. And he picked. He picked one that pays him $400,000 a year. Wow. It could have had an ethics accountability partner, like Mike Johnson and his son with porn.

[01:07:01] Hey, yes.

[01:07:02] That's exactly.

[01:07:03] It's important that people know it.

[01:07:06] Their families do it.

[01:07:07] Oh, God. this. So the district was deemed $2 million in back taxes and it's still ongoing how that's going to be fixed up. The board has changed the policy. They took away that benefit for employees saying that, well, some people don't want to, don't want an annual pass to Walt Disney

[01:08:22] World. So now they promise a $3,000 they start building it, Jimmy? Sometime in 2014. It took me six. It took me six. COVID and et cetera, et cetera. But in short, it'll take universal, less time to build an entire theme park than it took Disney

[01:09:42] to build Tron Light Cycle Run.

[01:09:44] I just want to introduce into I've heard of this movie. And in another story I got, The Bear, Magic Kingdom, The Bear. Oh, The Bear, that's right.

[01:11:01] I'm including this as an actual delightful. Yeah. Yeah. Because she's. Oh, well.

[01:12:20] Yes.

[01:12:21] That word is.

[01:12:22] Yes.

[01:12:23] Because she, you see, she's a teacher, I'll look up an actual article. All right, you'll come back. All right. What else did the Santas do? Moving on to more of September, it was announced that when it comes to the ongoing legal battle that Disney has to pay legal bills on both sides.

[01:13:41] That's right, because the, hang on,

[01:13:45] central Florida tourism oversight board And then by the end of October, it was announced that over 40 employees have left the board. The board chairman says, the vibe's real good. They've got a really, really great culture going on. some controversy on the layout of that, but it's a nice statue, he's on a bench. He's not in the center of the bench because Walt would never put himself in the center. So this is a lie from The Simpsons. The former Future World's very name had grown ironic.

[01:16:20] And as The Simpsons put it,

[01:16:22] it was how the 21st century looked in the early 1980s.

[01:17:24] Yeah, commune core. That's effectively it's a meet and greet, which is what it used to be. It's just a new building. But that'll be kind of the end of the new Epcot. The 2022

[01:17:30] saw the Guardians, but now we have four worlds, world discovery, world celebration, world nature,

[01:17:35] and world showcase. So maybe a little more thematically consistent, but yeah, Epcot's done.

[01:18:45] grand. In maybe Tom Corleis listens to our show news,

[01:18:48] they were talking about a new fixture that was put on Tiana.

[01:18:52] Oh, yes, I saw that.

[01:18:53] You saw that with the, not the windmill.

[01:18:56] What do they call the weather vein?

[01:18:58] Yeah.

[01:18:59] It was handmade by a Louisiana been around for generations weather vein guy.

[01:19:05] And he just went on and on about how you should not judge attractions before. Yes, exactly. Anyway, so yeah, the Tiana's bio adventure closed. Yeah. Sorry. It's fast. It's fast. I'm like, what's the winner? You're making that. No, I did not do it for me. Yeah. And I, I, it's just a log from them, right people?

[01:20:22] Like, I just want to say, Yeah, that's very good. I mean, we could do like a whole thing on weather veins. Maybe that's not- You'll be sure could. That's something I discovered only in our Village House episode, ironically. Right, right. That weather veins are a thing. Oh, they're everywhere. They're like the popcorn guys

[01:21:40] in the popcorn at Disneyland.

[01:21:42] Like everyone's a little different and they all have a story.

[01:21:44] The Roasty Toasty.

[01:21:45] Roasty Toasty's.

[01:21:46] That one.

[01:21:48] Yeah. Well, aren't they doing that with the theming of the ride though? Like the left half is going to be more of New Orleans foodie and the right half is going to be more critter-y. Well, yeah. Like Matterhorn. Yeah, but it's critter isn't a location specific designation. There's critters everywhere. Mm-hmm. I don't know. Sure. But you're probably right. It's probably going to be a better version of Disneyland.

[01:23:02] Only because they'll have time to figure out what they did wrong. The report took cost $360,000 to produce, again, mostly Disney's money being used to produce an 80-page report saying that Disney is bad. Disney responded that, quote, the report is neither objective nor credible, only seeks to advance CFTOD's interests in its wasteful litigation that could derail further investment

[01:24:24] within the district.

[01:24:25] Sorry, Eric.

[01:24:26] What's CFTOD? So that's something that came up when land values skyrocketed a few years back. The board claims they're cleaning up Disney's cronyism. They're currently replacing it with more cronyism and offered, were criticized for offering no bid contracts to former colleagues from other state boards.

[01:25:42] They were saying, well, Disney's had these long standing contracts. Let's, let's assign them to somebody else like my, you know, cousin.

[01:26:50] the fact that Disney turned 100 years old. There are not a lot of companies that are relevant today

[01:26:59] that are 100 years old and still thriving. General Electric, Chevron, Proctor & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer, Coca-Cola companies. There's not a lot of, you know,

[01:27:05] Fortune 100, let's call them companies thatner, Iger, Chapak and Iger, right? I mean, it's really been just a handful of people who have run this company, which is another very rare thing to have such few people run of was a normal thing. It was just like, hey, here's some extra banners and extra stuff and, you know, we'll do an extra version of this show, but it wasn't like, like it was acknowledged and it was acknowledged, but it wasn't like,

[01:29:42] at least in my experience, it was an appropriate amount

[01:29:45] of a deal that don't need it. They know their business better than we do, but it feels like D23 is an opportunity for them to really show what's going to happen with the $80 billion that Bob Iger committed over the next 10 years or whatever. Perhaps they could make reference to my top story, which is Disney Land Forward.

[01:31:06] I think that, so again, if you're listening to this show, you know what these things are,

[01:31:08] so I would rather just talk about it. parking structures are now, let's extend Disneyland and DCA into that area and to expand these theme parks for additional revenue, which will help everybody. I don't know where everybody's going to park necessarily, but that's the idea for Disneyland Forward. It's an idea. It's a proposal to the city of that toy story parking is probably going to be a new theme park. Again this is just based on the speculation of a youtuber but he's he's laid the case out really really well that what is.

[01:34:46] story parking lot is already done. Like, that's approved, it's passed, it's going to happen. He doesn't know what is going to happen, but he knows that something is going

[01:34:51] to happen with it. And the other properties, he goes, I don't see any reason why this wouldn't

[01:34:58] happen eventually.

[01:35:00] So I had this conversation with my family when also, there are so many questions. I'm very, very curious to see how they solve these problems because then it also becomes, well, do you have an additional exit in that direction

[01:36:21] that takes you out to?

[01:36:23] You kind of have to to the hotels, right?

[01:36:25] You might have to. of Toy Story parking lot being a third park, that becomes very interesting. Because then what happens with Garden Walk? And in- Except for a theme park. What's that? It is big enough. It is big enough. I just parked there. It's not that big. It doesn't seem that big. No, but if you look at the acreage,

[01:37:40] and again, Ricky did the numbers,

[01:37:42] I'm not gonna like,

[01:37:43] and I didn't write. It's all just speculation. I don't know the trunk. Point is Disneyland Forward. I, well, I mean, it's better than nothing. What does? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think mainly my main point is that Disneyland Forward

[01:39:02] is a story.

[01:39:03] It's something that happens.

[01:39:04] It's something that will be happening.

[01:39:06] And it's something that I think will be developing and phones, they use their personal equipment for the job. So they don't have to give out everything because then they'd be giving up personal information. The only one who does have to give out everything is the board chairman who as we recall makes $400,000 a year. So he also, of course he also gets a free computer and phone.

[01:40:22] That's the latest.

[01:40:25] It's still ongoing.

[01:40:27] This is the weirdest thing. going to happen. The board, despite being, despite being cronies, they really, like most boards of things, haven't really done much of anything other than, all right, let's approve, let's approve that pothole repair. Okay. All right, good job. Congrats. We did it. Let's all, a hard time believing anyway. So that was 2023. Absolutely true. I mean, could you hear it over the jets? I mean, yeah, you're in a plane. You're in a small, it's a small plane, I guess. I don't know. It's a small plane after all.

[01:43:02] So do we have time to get into to you?

[01:43:06] Do we have time to get into tips and tricks in 2024? various budgets and that sort of thing. I'd taken several tours of different hotels. I was in Anaheim and so I took it upon myself to go through some of the other hotels and take some room tours and that sort of thing to find out what would be the safest for their family. The perfect thing for Jason and his family. For Jason is exactly the ideal situation.

[01:44:21] You know, you could stay in a VRBO obviously,

[01:44:25] you're only breathing your own air.

[01:44:26] So we looked into kind of limitations. So I wanted to make sure that Jason and his family were as comfortable as possible for their trip to Disneyland. I was able to get up at 3 a.m. Eastern time're hatred of Disneyland is what continues. Well, not this one. The other one, the other one. Yes. Yes. No, but that is a good point. Does this network wouldn't exist if it weren't for the, I would somewhat say one man's love for another man's vision? Does it? That's right. And his friend, Terrence. And his, yes, exactly.

[01:47:01] No longer on the show. Anyway, so I'm excited for them.

[01:47:04] And yeah, that's it.

[01:47:05] So Dan, let's, what are to reduce the cost of lightning lane to reflect that there are less things on it. Right? Literally no way. There's absolutely no way to.

[01:48:20] The lightning lane for Rancho del Solco.

[01:48:23] Right.

[01:48:24] So they are instead saying, well, look,

[01:48:27] there's one for pirates. of a high capacity ride, it's gonna be on lightning lane. I do understand why it's silly, but it kind of, I guess, makes sense that like, you can't have like a dark place in the lightning lane map. I guess it makes sense, but it's gonna turn that part

[01:49:41] of the park into a very weird fuster clock

[01:49:45] of congestion and emptiness. and Thunder Mountain. These are funny tips, but they are true. Well, you got to pay for rise of the resistance. Right. Yeah. You can get lightning lane by itself. You have to pay. Wait for rise? Yeah. Yeah, you have to pay for that. Okay. So, just real quick, you buy lightning lane, the minute's available. That is technically midnight the day you're showing up.

[01:51:03] That's what Disneyland, you get it.

[01:51:05] It's 7 a.m.

[01:51:06] Well, when you walk in the park.

[01:52:05] good one to hit first because the line is going to get longer as the day progresses. And then following that with Snow White.

[01:52:08] And then after that Pinocchio Dumbo, they're kind of, wait, why I have Dumbo in here?

[01:52:14] You can get a little short line on Dumbo sometimes in the beginning part of the day, later part

[01:52:18] of the day as well.

[01:52:19] If you see Casey Jr. running with two trains, hop on it.

[01:52:22] It's not going to So I can have breakfast. Well, if you're looking at it from that point of view, yeah, it's fine. But if you think about it, if you rope up DCA to get the most use of your rope drop attraction time,

[01:53:41] guardians OK, but it's often down.

[01:53:44] But then there's really nothing else in to Galaxy's Edge and then I discovered that it's broken. I didn't have to go to a whole other part of the park. And then by that time, lines are already forming. You basically don't get a rope drop time unless you... You don't get a rope drop time unless all of these things line up.

[01:55:01] It's open and the crowd doesn't get ahead of you.

[01:55:04] They are not exist. In fact, rain is possibly, it used to be a great time to go. It's possibly the worst time to go now because it's filled with people who want to use

[01:56:21] their reservation and are afraid of, you know,

[01:56:24] changing it or whatever.

[01:56:26] And they don't know what to do

[01:56:27] because they're Southern Californians, line management procedures on top of everyone being on the app constantly means that a long wait on the app will usually mean a significantly shorter actual wait time by the time you get there. And vice versa, if you see like, oh, Thunder Mountain has a 10 minute wait by the minutes to an hour at some point during the day. Indiana Jones, you can usually see a 40 minute to 50 minute wait, top throughout the day, sorry. It'll get higher, but a good sweet spot

[01:59:00] that it often settles in is 40 to 50 minutes.

[01:59:03] However, check the switchback area

[01:59:06] because if there's to a lot of people But generally look for the third 30 to 45 minutes. That's a good settling point that it'll eventually get to again anything more than these times it's either a super busy day or Wait, don't go on it at that time

[02:00:20] Thunder Mountain usually 20 to 30 minutes and credit coaster it dies down He is 100% accurate within five minutes. I'm telling you. Everything he's saying is 100%. And by the way, it's 239 Pacific time on Sunday, January 7th. And everything he has said has been accurate, dead on balls accurate within five minutes. Uh-huh. No, I am so, like I said in our chat,

[02:01:43] I am glad that I'm not looking at our screen, not, not, my notes, go for it. Indiana Jones currently is listed at 50 minutes, 50. Yeah. What is the Jungkook cruise? 25. 15. Oh, so close, but you know.

[02:03:01] I'm gonna stop quizzing you just in case.

[02:03:06] No, no, go, give me another one.

[02:03:07] All right, all's always an hour. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That is so weird. And to me, it's weird in the reverse, where it's like, wait,

[02:04:23] this is one of your most popular, right? I mean twice as long line. Let's see. Everyone goes to Galaxy's Edge or Indiana Jones first. If those are down, they will go either to Thunder Mountain or Pirates. So just be aware of that. Let's see. What else? Indiana Jones stand by and makes's a ton of shade because it is a walkway up until the very moment that you get there 15 minutes before the parade starts. If you rely on this, you will never have to wait for a parade longer than 15 minutes. It really only works for the last pray of the day you get there 15 minutes or so before the first parade, same deal. It's just less luxurious because it's super, it's gross. There's lots of people. And it's, you know, there's no shade. Fire is that is that when you're looking at, it's a small world. Are we waiting on the left or are we waiting on the right?

[02:08:23] Oh, coming from Toon Town. Coming from Toon Town. full because they have stuff that goes off on the castle. So that way you get all the fireworks that happen on the castle and you get the full picture of the panoramic thing of like, oh, this relates to all of the things. Things relate to the castle in the show. So that way you get all of that without having to deal with the Tom Foolery of the castle

[02:09:43] people. 2019, I think, or whatever. I felt very ill-equipped to have all of those old tools. And I was like, okay, well, what's current? What do I know now? And now that there's been a couple years of seeing how these things work, these are just some things that I've noticed. That's awesome.

[02:11:00] Some of the best advice I think I've heard.

[02:11:02] Well, I think very detailed.

[02:11:04] Yeah, just a quick one.

[02:11:05] Yeah, that's all.

[02:11:06] Yeah. There's also a show called ears up featuring a person called Jason who will be going to Disneyland soon There is also ears up in depth which I Have nothing but good things to say about We We can if you want to contact us you can do so. Hey, listen to boys playing to by the way

[02:12:24] I was at scraping the vault. Sorry

[02:13:25] Well, we'll cross that bitch when we get to a day at Disneyland. Oh, Dan Disney Lane. Oh,

[02:13:34] That would be wonderful. That's what I want. There you go. If you want to contact us you can try to email Jimmy

[02:13:37] good luck

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