Puny Pod | Phase 3 Episode 9 - Captain Marvel ft. Dan from Bowiesplaining (Part 2)

[00:00:02] Alright, welcome back everybody. So we are going to get into the movie now. So thinking back to what? 2019. You know, before life went... Language!

[00:00:17] I mean before the one true president, you know, was unjustly dethroned. He was actually re-elected.

[00:00:31] What was your first viewing of this movie like, David? Do you remember how you were feeling going into this one?

[00:00:38] I mean, I think... I'll be honest, I don't actually remember seeing the film in the theater. I remember first watching in the sense of my recollection at the time. Things in 2019 were a little dark, so you wanted a little bit of an escape.

[00:00:54] But I didn't... You know, I wasn't... I wasn't a huge Captain Marvel fan of the comic originally. And... But I loved the... You know, everything that... Not everything, but most of the stuff that MCU had like produced at the time.

[00:01:06] So I was... I just, you know, I was again, ready for endgame. Let's just fast forward. Let's jump ahead. Let's get to it.

[00:01:16] Dan, how about you? What was your first recollection? Do you remember?

[00:01:21] I had... Let's see. I was in my... Around that time I was in, I think, my second year of... No, my first year of working at this school that I actually work at now full-time.

[00:01:33] I was subbing there. And I kind of heard about it. It's... This is one of those characters that I knew nothing about.

[00:01:42] And I... And I... Just like with Guardians of the Galaxy, I didn't know anything about it.

[00:01:47] So I was like, oh, this is going to be kind of fun. Not like I knew a lot about the others, but it's like, hey, Thor, he's the guy with the hammer and like vague lightning stuff.

[00:01:55] And Iron Man, he's the guy that I thought was a robot for a long time, but isn't.

[00:01:59] You know, like I had some back knowledge of everything except for Guardians of the Galaxy and Captain Marvel.

[00:02:09] So I remember just kind of like talking about it.

[00:02:14] There was this one student that was in one of the classes that I subbed for a lot that was like so excited about Captain Marvel.

[00:02:21] And she was like, oh, no, you really... Here are the things that you need to know.

[00:02:24] She was very clear about it. Here's what you need to know going in.

[00:02:28] She's super gay and she has like space powers.

[00:02:32] I'm like, got it.

[00:02:35] What if she'd said, here's the background and she basically like recites what Ryan just recited?

[00:02:41] And for some reason, and it might have been the age or something.

[00:02:45] She was like, no, she's super gay.

[00:02:53] Like, but not in a judgmental sense.

[00:02:55] Like she was excited about this.

[00:02:56] I'm like, all right, cool.

[00:02:57] Let's see what goes on here.

[00:02:59] And I didn't, for whatever reason, I didn't watch it for some time.

[00:03:04] And then I was on an airplane, most likely before 2020, I would imagine.

[00:03:10] And I saw that it was available as a movie to watch.

[00:03:13] And I was like, oh, I totally forgot.

[00:03:15] And I watched it and I remember watching it and thinking, this is a really good movie to watch on a plane.

[00:03:24] And not even in a bad way.

[00:03:25] There are just some movies that's just like, oh, this really fits.

[00:03:29] Yeah.

[00:03:30] And yeah.

[00:03:33] And that's it.

[00:03:34] I didn't watch it again until last night.

[00:03:37] And it was a very different experience.

[00:03:40] Yeah.

[00:03:42] How about you, Ryan?

[00:03:44] I think this might have been, this might have been the first post, post comic book store movie.

[00:03:54] I think, I think in 2019 is about when the comic book store that I was going with, their deal with the movie theater kind of dried up.

[00:04:05] So they, they stopped doing the kind of private showings.

[00:04:10] And so I want to say, because I saw Black Panther in the theaters with my wife after like, those like quote unquote, our second date.

[00:04:23] So I'm sure I went to this one with my wife at the time, girlfriend.

[00:04:32] And I, I was, I was, even though I was a comic book guy, I wasn't super aware of Captain Marvel.

[00:04:39] Again, BC tier character.

[00:04:42] So like, didn't really read her a whole lot.

[00:04:46] I was nervous that Brie Larson was cast just because like Brie Larson at the time, like my association with her was Envy Adams.

[00:04:54] Right.

[00:04:55] Which is a very different character from Captain Marvel.

[00:05:00] And so a little bit nervous about that, but overall I think honestly, very similar to you, David of just like, let's get to end game.

[00:05:13] Right there.

[00:05:13] I think that's, that's our refrain, no matter who the character is for, for all of these movies.

[00:05:18] It's like, let's just get to end game.

[00:05:20] Right.

[00:05:21] That was how we were feeling before Ant-Man and the Wasp.

[00:05:24] That's how I was feeling before this one.

[00:05:25] Um, but I, I think I was excited about the nineties setting.

[00:05:31] I'm a nineties kid.

[00:05:32] So I was kind of excited that they were going to do something interesting there.

[00:05:39] Um, so yeah, you know, excited for more content, but not like, oh my gosh, I have to go see this movie.

[00:05:46] I saw it at midnight.

[00:05:47] I always do.

[00:05:47] Right.

[00:05:47] I've, I've seen every, like every MCU movie past, I think, uh, Captain America at midnight.

[00:05:55] I want to say so.

[00:05:59] Um, I didn't realize the date on this.

[00:06:02] This was 2019 and end game came out in 2020.

[00:06:06] Mm hmm.

[00:06:07] Mm hmm.

[00:06:09] Wow.

[00:06:10] No, no, no, no.

[00:06:12] End game came out 2019.

[00:06:14] Yeah.

[00:06:15] So this was like early 2019.

[00:06:17] Yeah.

[00:06:17] End game is, I think, may 2019.

[00:06:20] And then Spider-Man is like November, 2019.

[00:06:24] I want to say.

[00:06:25] That's crazy.

[00:06:28] Like the connection to COVID is what I'm thinking.

[00:06:30] Like, oh yeah.

[00:06:31] Yeah.

[00:06:32] Yeah.

[00:06:32] Yeah.

[00:06:32] Yeah.

[00:06:34] Cause watching in game net and not to step on the toes of your next episode, but like watching

[00:06:39] in game now when they're dealing with like half the population being gone.

[00:06:44] Oh yeah.

[00:06:45] Oh, this feels different.

[00:06:48] Yeah.

[00:06:49] It's going to be, it's going to be a different ride for sure.

[00:06:51] Right.

[00:06:52] Yeah.

[00:06:53] Yeah.

[00:06:53] Just like watching Ant-Man and the Wasp and watching his house arrest is like shades of

[00:06:59] shades of isolation.

[00:07:02] Totally.

[00:07:03] Like, hey, let me learn magic and drums.

[00:07:05] Right.

[00:07:06] And we're watching it now.

[00:07:08] It's like, hey, you know, it wasn't so bad.

[00:07:09] Right.

[00:07:11] Yeah.

[00:07:11] So this was March 8, 2019.

[00:07:13] And then end game was April.

[00:07:18] Oh yeah.

[00:07:19] It wasn't.

[00:07:19] It was the last week of April.

[00:07:21] Cause it wasn't, it was, I think,

[00:07:23] 2019 is one of the years where they didn't have a May release.

[00:07:27] Right.

[00:07:27] It's April 26.

[00:07:28] So I have a, I have a kind of connected question that I would, I wanted to ask.

[00:07:34] Um, what was, so of course being in a shutdown was a nightmare for all of us, but what is something

[00:07:42] that you miss from it?

[00:07:43] Like some like weird food that you'd found that you like connected to or like, or what,

[00:07:49] what, yeah, something like that.

[00:07:51] What, what is there anything like that for you?

[00:07:57] Um, I am, I was going to say, I appreciate the proliferate proliferation of like to go

[00:08:02] cocktails.

[00:08:03] You can buy from restaurants and just kind of like, okay.

[00:08:06] Chug them in the car on the way home.

[00:08:07] I'm kidding about the last part, but, um, it was just never a thing before.

[00:08:12] And QR code ordering.

[00:08:14] It's great.

[00:08:16] Yeah.

[00:08:16] Yeah.

[00:08:17] Right.

[00:08:17] I, yeah, I think as far as like things I miss, um, I mean, of course we don't miss it,

[00:08:22] but like in an over a period of time, you know, things happen that you actually find that you

[00:08:28] enjoy.

[00:08:28] Right.

[00:08:28] Right.

[00:08:29] Right.

[00:08:29] Yeah.

[00:08:30] Cause I, I think there's a lot of things that did carry forward.

[00:08:32] My, my work became hybrid, which was massive.

[00:08:35] I work for a call center and, uh, I was a, in office drone five days a week.

[00:08:41] Uh, and my work became hybrid, which was really cool.

[00:08:46] I, I actually, I, I simultaneously hated, but also hold this special place in my heart

[00:08:52] for when we first went to hybrid work.

[00:08:55] I was working from my kitchen, my kitchen table.

[00:08:59] Um, and I, again, I work for a call center.

[00:09:02] I am a supervisor.

[00:09:03] So I was talking to a supervisor call that had me held up for four hours.

[00:09:10] Oh my God.

[00:09:11] I'm sitting at my kitchen table.

[00:09:13] We're like working this call with this guy.

[00:09:17] My wife is cooking dinner around me because I was supposed to be off at like five o'clock.

[00:09:22] I took this right before I was supposed to be off.

[00:09:24] So I'm on this call from 5 PM to like 9 PM.

[00:09:28] My wife is literally having to work around me to make dinner.

[00:09:32] And like, would I do that again?

[00:09:34] God, no.

[00:09:35] Do I hold this weird little special like nugget in my heart of like, that was actually

[00:09:39] kind of fun, fun in a really weird way.

[00:09:44] But I was going to say, did you find this movie fun then?

[00:09:46] In a kind of a weird way, in a similar kind of like four hour work around the, no, I'm kidding.

[00:09:56] How about you?

[00:09:57] Was there anything for you, Dan?

[00:09:58] For me, oddly enough, I, and this is disgusting, but I don't care.

[00:10:03] Um, I learned to really, truly enjoy and prefer non heated up, uh, canned ravioli just straight

[00:10:14] out of the can.

[00:10:15] I always loved that as a kid.

[00:10:17] Yeah.

[00:10:17] Nice.

[00:10:18] Yeah.

[00:10:18] Like if everyone's like, Hey, maybe I'll heat this up.

[00:10:21] But most of the time it's just like, Oh no, this is living.

[00:10:27] Chef Boyardee just right out of the can.

[00:10:29] Um, actually store brand is my preferred, but it's hard to find.

[00:10:33] Yeah.

[00:10:35] Oh, well, we're here for a movie.

[00:10:37] And reminiscing aside.

[00:10:39] Yeah.

[00:10:39] Let's, let's talk about, let's talk about this movie.

[00:10:42] Uh, so rewatching it, Dan, you said you rewatched it last night.

[00:10:46] I rewatched it, um, a couple of weeks ago, David, I know you just rewatched it like this

[00:10:52] week going back into rewatching it.

[00:10:55] Um, what were you kind of looking forward to?

[00:10:59] What were you thinking about?

[00:11:01] What memories did you have of this movie?

[00:11:04] Um, I'll pass it to our guest first.

[00:11:07] So Dan, was there anything about getting back to this movie that you were thinking about?

[00:11:13] Yeah, I was definitely thinking about, cause I, I didn't know that Jude Law was going to

[00:11:18] end up being the type of character that Jude Law usually plays.

[00:11:23] Um, and so when, when I watched it the first time it was like, oh, he seems weirdly menacing,

[00:11:30] but okay, that's weird.

[00:11:33] And he's doing, he's talking to her strange, but like, I guess that's just what we're doing.

[00:11:40] And then just accepting a little bit of abuse.

[00:11:43] Right.

[00:11:44] And then, and then watching, and then when the reveal happens, it was like, oh, that all

[00:11:48] makes sense.

[00:11:49] And then this time around, I was like, holy crap.

[00:11:53] He is gaslighting the hell out of her.

[00:11:56] This is like the most, this is awful.

[00:11:59] Like in a, in a really good, well-made way.

[00:12:02] Like, I was just like, oh my God, how in the hell is this happening?

[00:12:06] And of course, like memory loss and all that, it's like, it, it all kind of makes sense.

[00:12:12] Uh, and I was like, oh wow, this is so, this is painful to watch in all the best ways.

[00:12:21] And then, you know, certain connections to certain things happening with world events.

[00:12:27] I was like, oh, this is all sorts of uncomfortable, isn't it?

[00:12:31] And then, and, and then the sort of like, my, my issue with this movie continues to be

[00:12:41] the like over reliance on nineties nostalgia and the over chummy relationship.

[00:12:50] It's like, I get it.

[00:12:51] Samuel L. Jackson and Brie Larson are friends.

[00:12:54] I get it, but stop just, you know?

[00:13:00] Um, but then it was, it was like, oh, I guess you kind of need that balance because there's

[00:13:06] so much tension in the other stuff.

[00:13:11] I don't think they, they hit the balance, but I understand why they made the moves that

[00:13:15] they made now.

[00:13:17] Um, yeah.

[00:13:19] What about, uh, who do I go to?

[00:13:21] I'm not used to, this is, I'm used to hub crawl where it's like, throw it to, throw it to me,

[00:13:27] tag.

[00:13:27] Okay.

[00:13:27] I'm going to throw it to tag.

[00:13:30] I, um, I hand congrats to my buddy on 35 years.

[00:13:36] Right.

[00:13:36] Um, so I, you know, I, the thing I was anticipating going back and looking at was like, it's been,

[00:13:45] it's been panned by a lot of, a lot of, a lot of criticism from Brie Larson's performance

[00:13:51] between like, kind of the quote unquote culture that changed her to a woman, changed her to

[00:13:56] a woman.

[00:13:56] And, um, but just wanted to see like how it just stands up on its own.

[00:14:00] When you remove, when you look at the nostalgia again, and now that you know the, the big

[00:14:07] plot reveal, uh, is it, is it as enjoyable?

[00:14:11] It's still hold up.

[00:14:13] Um, that's what I was kind of looking forward to.

[00:14:15] Yeah.

[00:14:16] Yeah.

[00:14:16] Brian.

[00:14:17] No, that's fair.

[00:14:18] I, I, uh, so I've watched this movie a few times.

[00:14:21] It's, it's, you know, I would say probably, uh, it's kind of in that B tier of, of rewatch

[00:14:28] movies, right?

[00:14:29] I, I'll rewatch it here and there.

[00:14:31] Um, and so I, I was fairly familiar with it even, you know, having watched it since, since

[00:14:40] it came out, but I was looking forward to going back to it now in light of this rewatch

[00:14:48] where, you know, the Tesseract stuff was going to be really interesting to me and tracking

[00:14:53] where the Tesseract was, um, throughout, throughout Marvel history.

[00:14:59] Um, I was also looking forward to, to, like you said, kind of viewing it in the eyes of

[00:15:08] like, people hate this movie.

[00:15:09] Why do they hate it?

[00:15:10] Um, and, and spoiler alert for later on when we talk about our rankings and stuff, I, I

[00:15:17] still don't necessarily know why people hate it.

[00:15:19] I, I do think that, you know, the, the nineties nostalgia maybe is a bit much at this point,

[00:15:25] but we'll get into that a little later.

[00:15:28] Um, I can, I can, I can make a good argument, I think for why people hate it, but I, I, I

[00:15:34] don't, I don't know that I'm there with them, you know?

[00:15:38] That's fair.

[00:15:39] Yeah.

[00:15:40] Um, so, so yeah, you know, getting back into it, the, this past week or so is, um, I

[00:15:47] was really looking forward to kind of, as with all of these movies, getting it in light

[00:15:54] of this project where it's not just something that happened to be on FX that I turned on

[00:15:59] in the background or something like that.

[00:16:00] It was watching it with intention, which I was pretty excited for.

[00:16:05] So.

[00:16:06] I will say, uh, Dan, to your point about seeing it on a plane.

[00:16:09] Um, I actually finished, finished most of my, half my rewatch on a plane.

[00:16:14] Like, Oh really?

[00:16:15] Yeah.

[00:16:15] Yeah.

[00:16:15] On Friday.

[00:16:16] Yep.

[00:16:17] It's better.

[00:16:18] It, it, I think so.

[00:16:20] It has a, it has a kind of a, like a cozier feel that is better suited for maybe a smaller

[00:16:27] screen.

[00:16:28] I think there's that.

[00:16:30] And also, and I, I really, I don't mean this as an insult and I, I, I would make this

[00:16:34] very same joke about something, or I would make this as an insulting joke about something,

[00:16:40] but I don't mean this in this sense.

[00:16:42] There are some movies, even like big Marvel experiences where like, it's not bad to be

[00:16:49] interrupted by the occasional turbulence or like person moving by you to go take a crap

[00:16:54] or something, you know, like it's it.

[00:16:56] It, I think it benefits from somewhat passive viewing.

[00:17:00] That's fair.

[00:17:02] Yeah.

[00:17:03] Um, that's a good way of putting it.

[00:17:04] Yeah.

[00:17:04] I can see that.

[00:17:07] So not, not at 0.25 speed is what you're saying.

[00:17:10] No, not at all.

[00:17:11] In fact, I would say the, the, if you're not, if you're not going to go by a plane ticket

[00:17:16] to watch this movie, I would say, you know, just line up some chores that you can do in

[00:17:20] the same room.

[00:17:21] And I think you'd probably get a better experience out of it.

[00:17:24] Yeah.

[00:17:25] Almost, almost watching it for the action scenes where you just kind of pick a, you, you

[00:17:31] step in for, for the fun little scene and then you step out.

[00:17:34] Yeah.

[00:17:35] And when it loses you, let, let it lose you and it'll get you back.

[00:17:38] And that's kind of actually this would have been a great TV series to be honest.

[00:17:43] Yeah.

[00:17:44] I could see that.

[00:17:45] I could see that.

[00:17:47] Uh, well let's get started on the movie.

[00:17:48] Let's, let's see where it loses us and where, where we come back to it.

[00:17:52] Um, so very first scene here is a edited version of the Marvel studios logo, which makes

[00:18:01] me blubber like a grown man child.

[00:18:05] Um, so in, instead of the normal kind of comic books and movies clips, we get all images of

[00:18:15] Stanley.

[00:18:15] Um, it's all like images from his cameos images from his like press events, that sort of thing.

[00:18:22] Um, he actually passed away while this film was being edited.

[00:18:26] So between, uh, wrapping up in 2018 and it's release in March of 2019, he passed away in

[00:18:36] November of 2018.

[00:18:37] I thought it was just cause he was sexy.

[00:18:39] I mean that too, but just don't ask his nurse.

[00:18:46] Um, sorry.

[00:18:48] I should not disparage a man who were talking about a tribute.

[00:18:51] That's a lot.

[00:18:52] I'm going to do another one of these.

[00:18:53] That's almost as dark as a Tamagotchi funeral.

[00:18:56] Oh, 90s references for you.

[00:19:00] I have a whole list.

[00:19:01] It's a ladies and gentlemen, just prepare yourself for this episode.

[00:19:05] Probably should prepare yourself much as.

[00:19:09] Many people prepared themselves for the Y2K bug panic.

[00:19:14] I do remember Y2K.

[00:19:16] And if you really liked this episode and you haven't listened to the Thor dark world episode,

[00:19:20] go listen to that one.

[00:19:24] I think this one is a little bit less grandma beats up your beats you up for your.

[00:19:28] We'll see.

[00:19:29] We'll see what happens.

[00:19:32] Um, so yeah, the Marvel logo, Stanley images.

[00:19:38] Um, and then after the, the Marvel studios comes up, it says, thank you, Stan.

[00:19:44] Um, very touching tribute to obviously, uh, the guy who kind of gave us most of this or at least takes credit for it.

[00:19:54] Yes.

[00:19:55] Um, speaking of grandmothers, I had an interesting time when I was, I remember watching the spider friends.

[00:20:03] I would basically, I would trick my grandmother into letting me watch more cartoons than I was allowed to watch.

[00:20:09] And it's an impressive feat.

[00:20:11] Cause she was a very smart lady.

[00:20:12] Um, and he, he, he would introduce the episodes and he would always start with, I'm Stan Lee.

[00:20:21] And I, and I was like, his name's Stanley.

[00:20:25] Right.

[00:20:25] And my grandma's like, no, it's Stan Lee.

[00:20:27] I'm like, Stanley.

[00:20:29] No.

[00:20:30] Meanwhile, this woman was like the first female graduate from like Pomona college.

[00:20:36] Like it was like a very, like highly intelligent, hated pop culture, knew exactly what it was doing to rot her grandson's brain.

[00:20:46] And we're having this like dumb conversation about Stanley.

[00:20:53] I'm like, no, it's Stanley.

[00:20:55] He's like, I'm six years old.

[00:20:57] Stanley.

[00:20:58] Those can be two separate names.

[00:20:59] Like it's Stanley grandma.

[00:21:02] Well, Dan, all these years later, I'm here to tell you his name was Stanley Lieber.

[00:21:07] So Stanley Marvel.

[00:21:17] So, uh, movie pops on.

[00:21:20] It's 1995.

[00:21:22] We see Brie Larson as veers residing on Hala, the capital of Cree civilization.

[00:21:32] She is a, she has constant nightmares that haunt her.

[00:21:35] Sorry.

[00:21:39] And I'm sure not named for the, uh, intrinsic link it has to other things.

[00:21:46] Yeah, exactly.

[00:21:49] What are you guys talking about?

[00:21:51] Nothing.

[00:21:53] Tasty, delectable holiday time treats.

[00:21:59] The movie opens and we see a brief slow motion dream sequence.

[00:22:03] There's some sort of airplane crash and combat going on.

[00:22:07] Brie Larson's character is injured and bleeding blue blood.

[00:22:10] Just like in the American.

[00:22:12] Annette Bening.

[00:22:13] This character is holding a gun and staring at Carol as a mysterious person arrives.

[00:22:19] She then snaps and half of everybody dies.

[00:22:23] Uh, sorry.

[00:22:24] She snaps out of her dream.

[00:22:25] There you go.

[00:22:26] Uh, bears cannot sleep.

[00:22:27] So she pays a visit to Yon-Rogg, whom we later find out is her superior officer and is training

[00:22:35] her to become a member of Star Force.

[00:22:37] She invites him to combat as they spar.

[00:22:42] She asks about her dream before punching before, or sorry.

[00:22:47] As they spar, he asks her about her dream before punching her and knocking her down.

[00:22:54] I slipped, she says.

[00:22:56] He tells her to forget her past and makes a comment about her emotions serving as distractions.

[00:23:02] And then he punches her again.

[00:23:05] Fed up with being a punching bag, Carol flashes her special powers by blasting him in with a force

[00:23:12] bolt generated from her hand, which sends him flying across the room.

[00:23:17] Seems like a healthy work relationship right there.

[00:23:19] Yeah.

[00:23:20] Yeah.

[00:23:21] Yeah.

[00:23:21] I mean, how do we not know he's the bad guy?

[00:23:25] Are you kidding?

[00:23:27] I mean.

[00:23:28] Right?

[00:23:29] It's pretty obvious.

[00:23:31] I feel like such an idiot.

[00:23:33] Like the first time, like, it's a little weird, but I mean, I guess not going to kink shame anybody.

[00:23:39] I don't know.

[00:23:41] She slipped into his fist.

[00:23:43] Yeah.

[00:23:47] I mean, it's not a problem for me.

[00:23:57] I will say this.

[00:23:58] The one thing, the one thing I did appreciate about the character, you know, obviously, you

[00:24:03] know, for a lot of people was the Mar-Vell male Captain America, now female.

[00:24:08] The fact that she doesn't just have to fight like other women, I guess is a positive thing

[00:24:16] as opposed to just, it's just a couple of aliens just going at it regardless of what

[00:24:20] they're.

[00:24:21] Yeah.

[00:24:22] Now that you mentioned that, I think I did go in knowing that there was some like some

[00:24:30] figure that gave her.

[00:24:32] I think, I think it was, I think in fairness, I did watch the first time with the assumption

[00:24:39] that like, this is like a weirdly a part of her training, but like in a, in a way where

[00:24:47] it's just like, oh, he's being a dick because that's being a dick as part of the training

[00:24:51] or something.

[00:24:52] Yeah.

[00:24:53] But I mean, in hindsight, it's just like, oh, I just wasn't recognizing clear.

[00:24:59] Yeah.

[00:25:00] Very obvious abuse.

[00:25:01] Right.

[00:25:02] Yeah.

[00:25:02] Because again, I feel very represented and it's not a problem, which is totally messed

[00:25:09] up.

[00:25:11] Yeah.

[00:25:14] So it turns out that, uh, Viers is a Kree warrior and a member of the empire's elite

[00:25:20] star force.

[00:25:21] We see Yon-Rogg give Viers a pep talk, uh, as they travel to visit the Supreme Intelligence,

[00:25:29] which is the AI leader of the Kree civilization.

[00:25:32] One real quick comment here.

[00:25:34] The, um, Yon-Rogg, I'm just going home Jude Law.

[00:25:38] Jude Law asks, you know, he basically says that the Supreme Intelligence is who's

[00:25:42] whomever you most admire.

[00:25:44] So the question for you two is who is the Supreme Intelligence person you would see?

[00:25:48] Trump.

[00:25:49] Um, there you go.

[00:25:50] Okay.

[00:25:51] Good call.

[00:25:51] Just kidding.

[00:25:53] B.

[00:25:55] Asher.

[00:25:56] Dammit.

[00:25:57] Okay.

[00:25:58] All right.

[00:26:00] Never mind.

[00:26:01] Next.

[00:26:01] Uh, I need time to think about that.

[00:26:07] Okay.

[00:26:07] Yeah.

[00:26:07] It would be, uh, Ryan, if you have one, please go.

[00:26:11] I don't have a serious one.

[00:26:13] Uh,

[00:26:13] yeah, I can't.

[00:26:15] Um,

[00:26:17] I think.

[00:26:20] We should have started a drinking game for every time,

[00:26:24] um,

[00:26:24] we get distracted or make.

[00:26:28] Oh, wow.

[00:26:29] Yeah.

[00:26:29] Completely hammered by the end.

[00:26:31] Uh,

[00:26:32] it'd probably be a weird combination of like.

[00:26:37] Brian Eno.

[00:26:38] No, you know what?

[00:26:39] It'd be David Bowie.

[00:26:40] I was going to say it had to be David Bowie.

[00:26:41] Right.

[00:26:42] Yeah.

[00:26:43] Yeah.

[00:26:43] I think so.

[00:26:44] Not because I'm like,

[00:26:46] it's weird.

[00:26:47] I'm not like,

[00:26:49] I wouldn't classify myself as a super fan,

[00:26:51] but I absolutely adore him as a,

[00:26:57] as a person.

[00:26:58] And as an artist.

[00:26:59] And Dan,

[00:27:00] where can we hear you talk more?

[00:27:01] Oh,

[00:27:01] we'll get to that.

[00:27:02] Don't worry.

[00:27:05] It would have made a great Supreme intelligence.

[00:27:08] Oh yeah.

[00:27:08] He would have.

[00:27:10] Absolutely.

[00:27:11] He would,

[00:27:11] he would have made a great replacement for Annette Bening in this movie.

[00:27:16] Yeah.

[00:27:17] Yeah.

[00:27:18] All the way across.

[00:27:18] Yeah.

[00:27:21] Yeah.

[00:27:23] who would you see David?

[00:27:24] Probably Ricky Henderson.

[00:27:29] I love Ricky Henderson.

[00:27:30] He's the best.

[00:27:31] Anyway,

[00:27:32] I just want to,

[00:27:33] I just want to hear Asher is the Supreme intelligence.

[00:27:36] Oh no.

[00:27:37] Hey,

[00:27:38] it's me.

[00:27:39] I'm really cool.

[00:27:42] I'm supremely intelligent.

[00:27:45] I want to see me do some sick skateboard tricks.

[00:27:48] Sick kickflips.

[00:27:53] I will say one thing about one thing,

[00:27:56] bringing it back to the movie real quick about the Supreme intelligence.

[00:28:01] So,

[00:28:01] so I guess first let me say,

[00:28:03] so veers arrives,

[00:28:05] she plugs into the Cree board machine thing and,

[00:28:08] and meets the Supreme intelligence,

[00:28:10] which takes,

[00:28:12] takes up the image of Annette Bening,

[00:28:15] who we later find out is Marvell,

[00:28:18] is Captain,

[00:28:19] or is Wendy Lawson.

[00:28:23] Something to note here is,

[00:28:25] when she's the Supreme intelligence,

[00:28:28] she has,

[00:28:29] so when Marvell is the Supreme intelligence,

[00:28:32] she has green eyes,

[00:28:34] like really bright green eyes.

[00:28:37] But when it's the actual Marvell,

[00:28:39] she has,

[00:28:39] she has brown eyes,

[00:28:40] which to me,

[00:28:42] it gives me some like wizard of Oz,

[00:28:44] kind of big goggle green eye kind of vibes.

[00:28:52] So,

[00:28:53] so yeah,

[00:28:53] we,

[00:28:54] we commune with the Supreme intelligence.

[00:28:56] Yon-Rogg believes that veers is fit to serve in star force.

[00:29:00] Uh,

[00:29:01] but the,

[00:29:02] but the Supreme intelligence,

[00:29:04] I can't keep up all these voices,

[00:29:07] uh,

[00:29:07] says that veers struggles with her emotions and her past,

[00:29:11] uh,

[00:29:12] which fuels them.

[00:29:13] Hey,

[00:29:14] we get a sweet flashback again to the plane crash.

[00:29:20] That's going to come back.

[00:29:22] It's one of the more expensive scenes in the movie.

[00:29:25] So you gotta get your money out of it.

[00:29:26] Yeah.

[00:29:27] Use it.

[00:29:27] Uh,

[00:29:28] the Supreme intelligence provides some exposition by explaining,

[00:29:32] uh,

[00:29:32] to veers that the scrolls and an alien race who can shape shift have secretly

[00:29:39] invaded and taken over planets,

[00:29:42] uh,

[00:29:44] and have threatened the Cree civilization for centuries.

[00:29:47] The Supreme intelligence sends veers on a mission.

[00:29:51] Veers joins the team,

[00:29:52] which includes Korath introduced in quasar number 32,

[00:29:56] January of 1992,

[00:29:58] Mark Grunwald,

[00:29:59] Greg Capullo.

[00:30:00] Also the only member of this unit that we've seen,

[00:30:03] uh,

[00:30:04] are already in the MCU.

[00:30:05] So I'm back in guardians of the galaxy.

[00:30:08] Minerva.

[00:30:10] Yep.

[00:30:10] That's the name we're going to with this.

[00:30:12] Minerva.

[00:30:13] Uh,

[00:30:14] introduced captain Marvel number 50,

[00:30:16] February of 1977,

[00:30:18] Scott Edelman,

[00:30:19] Al Milgram.

[00:30:20] Uh,

[00:30:21] also like David mentioned complete waste of Gemma Chan and she would get used

[00:30:27] later.

[00:30:28] Uh,

[00:30:28] maybe wasted again.

[00:30:30] Um,

[00:30:30] it's like all the characters are like,

[00:30:33] uh,

[00:30:33] custom license plates.

[00:30:37] Yeah.

[00:30:38] Just wait till we get to this last one.

[00:30:39] So first we have brought Braun char,

[00:30:42] uh,

[00:30:43] who was introduced captain America volume three,

[00:30:45] number eight,

[00:30:46] June of 1998,

[00:30:47] Mark Wade and Joe Kubert.

[00:30:49] He,

[00:30:50] he is one character who has been able to break captain America's shield.

[00:30:55] Um,

[00:30:55] and then at less,

[00:30:59] they need to stop.

[00:31:00] They do.

[00:31:01] Quasar number nine,

[00:31:03] Mark Grunwald,

[00:31:03] Mike Manley is also actually a reference to Atlas comics,

[00:31:07] which is the original name of the company we now know as Marvel comics.

[00:31:13] Uh,

[00:31:14] veers asks Korath if he's ever been stim or if he's ever been simmed by a

[00:31:20] scroll.

[00:31:22] Korath once,

[00:31:23] it was deeply disturbing.

[00:31:25] Veers.

[00:31:26] Why?

[00:31:27] Korath,

[00:31:28] because I stared into the face of my mortal enemy and the face staring back at

[00:31:32] me was my own.

[00:31:33] Veers.

[00:31:34] Maybe if you were more attractive,

[00:31:36] it would be less disturbing.

[00:31:37] Oh,

[00:31:38] sick burn,

[00:31:38] sick burn,

[00:31:39] sick burn.

[00:31:41] I do like Braun char.

[00:31:42] He's like,

[00:31:43] it's funny.

[00:31:43] Cause objectively speaking,

[00:31:44] you're quite handsome.

[00:31:49] I mean,

[00:31:50] look,

[00:31:50] he,

[00:31:50] he's not bad looking.

[00:31:52] Oh,

[00:31:52] he's a great looking guy.

[00:31:55] Yon-Rogg arrives and prepares the team for their mission.

[00:31:58] They're going to rescue a Cree named.

[00:32:01] So Larr,

[00:32:03] who has gone missing.

[00:32:06] Just any,

[00:32:07] you just feel like that,

[00:32:08] that they wrote down like one syllable words,

[00:32:11] put them in two cups,

[00:32:12] poured them out and just came up with names at that point in time.

[00:32:15] Oh,

[00:32:16] it's rough.

[00:32:18] So we get a cool CGI ski scene where the Cree arrive,

[00:32:22] they land underwater and jettison from their ships.

[00:32:25] They divide up.

[00:32:26] Veers is tasked with locating.

[00:32:28] So Larr,

[00:32:28] the mission goes awry.

[00:32:31] When Veers finds the ship,

[00:32:33] uh,

[00:32:34] or finds the spy only to discover that he's actually,

[00:32:38] the scroll general Talos,

[00:32:40] uh,

[00:32:41] in disguise.

[00:32:42] He captures Veers and takes her up to his ship in order to probe her memories.

[00:32:47] He says,

[00:32:49] let's open her up.

[00:32:53] The,

[00:32:54] uh,

[00:32:54] I'm trying to get Asher to say something.

[00:32:56] That's why I'm Asher.

[00:32:59] Come out of your room.

[00:33:02] It's not working.

[00:33:03] It's not working.

[00:33:04] He's not answering my text.

[00:33:06] Asher.

[00:33:07] Stop listening to David Bowie.

[00:33:12] Okay.

[00:33:12] I'm giving up on that.

[00:33:13] It would have been funny.

[00:33:14] He's just busy.

[00:33:15] We'll maybe make you impaired a bit.

[00:33:17] Um,

[00:33:18] so the probing,

[00:33:19] so we get the,

[00:33:20] the,

[00:33:21] yet another flashback,

[00:33:22] uh,

[00:33:23] the probing of Veers memories reveals a life that she cannot remember.

[00:33:28] So we quickly get like a flashback,

[00:33:31] big airport hangar scene.

[00:33:34] Veers is a pilot with Monica Rambeau.

[00:33:36] Then they rewind further and we see her as a child.

[00:33:40] She's like a bit of a tomboy.

[00:33:43] What's that?

[00:33:44] She sucks at go-karts.

[00:33:46] She sucks at everything.

[00:33:48] She's like,

[00:33:48] why now?

[00:33:49] Right?

[00:33:50] Yeah.

[00:33:50] I gotta say cinematically,

[00:33:52] at least like I appreciated most of how this was handled.

[00:34:00] Um,

[00:34:01] like it was,

[00:34:02] it was interesting that whole sort of like,

[00:34:04] okay,

[00:34:05] wait,

[00:34:05] go back.

[00:34:05] Okay.

[00:34:06] Okay.

[00:34:06] Focus on that.

[00:34:07] And then like in her memory,

[00:34:09] it's almost like you can almost like see this.

[00:34:13] Okay.

[00:34:13] This is how you would experience this.

[00:34:16] If you were remembering this and heard this,

[00:34:19] like,

[00:34:19] do you hear that?

[00:34:20] You know,

[00:34:21] like,

[00:34:21] but then it's like montage of,

[00:34:27] Oh,

[00:34:27] these are all the ways I'm going to see her stand up in,

[00:34:31] but right before the final battle.

[00:34:34] Yeah.

[00:34:36] Yeah.

[00:34:36] You get to your point down,

[00:34:37] like,

[00:34:37] and they did it in like minority report where they do this kind of like

[00:34:41] blurry,

[00:34:41] kind of like rewind,

[00:34:42] kind of like view back a scene,

[00:34:44] if you will.

[00:34:45] Um,

[00:34:46] and yeah,

[00:34:46] they see her as a child.

[00:34:48] She's racing go-karts,

[00:34:49] baseball.

[00:34:50] She's a military cadet.

[00:34:52] Each,

[00:34:52] each time she kind of,

[00:34:53] you know,

[00:34:54] repeatedly fails,

[00:34:55] gets back up,

[00:34:56] told that she's not good enough.

[00:34:57] You know,

[00:34:57] you don't belong here.

[00:34:58] You aren't strong enough.

[00:34:59] You're too emotional.

[00:35:01] You don't know why they're called a cockpit.

[00:35:02] Do you?

[00:35:03] And,

[00:35:04] um,

[00:35:04] and we do now because we've explained it.

[00:35:07] And we do explain that in the first part of the thing.

[00:35:10] Um,

[00:35:11] the,

[00:35:11] um,

[00:35:12] the thing just to kind of make a point here about her character that,

[00:35:17] uh,

[00:35:18] Kelly Sue DeConnick made a point of is that she's sort of like Captain America.

[00:35:24] Right.

[00:35:24] And in fact,

[00:35:25] in fact,

[00:35:26] Feige was originally kind of concerned about this kind of like get back up no

[00:35:29] matter what kind of things.

[00:35:30] Like we already have one.

[00:35:31] I could do this all day,

[00:35:32] dude.

[00:35:32] Right.

[00:35:32] What's the difference?

[00:35:34] And then.

[00:35:35] So,

[00:35:36] uh,

[00:35:36] Kelly Sue DeConnick wrote like basically the differences,

[00:35:39] like Steve gets back up because it's the right thing to do.

[00:35:41] And then she,

[00:35:43] you know,

[00:35:43] in her,

[00:35:44] um,

[00:35:44] in this book,

[00:35:45] it's described Carol gets back up because F you,

[00:35:48] she doesn't do it because it's righteous.

[00:35:49] It's just,

[00:35:50] she's like this full of like piss and vinegar.

[00:35:53] And I don't know that necessarily comes across as the film,

[00:35:56] but like seeing it that way made me appreciate her character a little bit

[00:35:59] more.

[00:36:00] I would have been nicely kind of drawn it out a little bit,

[00:36:02] but because she's got amnesia through the most of the film,

[00:36:05] you just,

[00:36:06] you don't really get to see it.

[00:36:07] But so to,

[00:36:10] uh,

[00:36:10] to that point,

[00:36:11] the scrolls fast forward her memories.

[00:36:12] Now where she's veers is talking with Annette Benning's character,

[00:36:16] um,

[00:36:16] whose name tag reads Pegasus,

[00:36:18] Dr.

[00:36:19] Wendy Lawson.

[00:36:20] And this is the woman who has appeared in the recesses of beer's mind.

[00:36:24] This is the person that shows up at the Supreme intelligence when he goes to

[00:36:27] talk to her or it,

[00:36:29] I should say.

[00:36:30] And Talos is eager to find Lawson's light speed engine.

[00:36:34] That's the whole purpose of the movie.

[00:36:35] Um,

[00:36:36] and so he tries,

[00:36:37] you know,

[00:36:38] he basically tries to get lost to focus on the name tag and tries to get the

[00:36:41] coordinates based on another memory of veers.

[00:36:45] And so,

[00:36:46] um,

[00:36:47] but that memory fails that they failed to draw her memory.

[00:36:50] Veers manages to break free from mind reading device and with their hands

[00:36:54] bound by these,

[00:36:55] uh,

[00:36:56] detention bolts for lack of a better term,

[00:36:58] just proceeds to just throw hands,

[00:37:00] just lay out a bunch of scrolls.

[00:37:01] And then it's kind of great scene.

[00:37:03] Um,

[00:37:04] real quick.

[00:37:05] Um,

[00:37:06] in the,

[00:37:07] so as her,

[00:37:08] as she's like breaking out,

[00:37:09] you actually see her eject in her memories.

[00:37:12] Oh yeah,

[00:37:13] yeah,

[00:37:13] yeah.

[00:37:13] And one of the quick flashes you see is actually a burning piano.

[00:37:18] Um,

[00:37:19] which this is actually something really cool that I didn't know until I was

[00:37:22] doing research for this.

[00:37:24] Uh,

[00:37:24] so burning pianos are actually used as a tribute to fallen air force pilots in

[00:37:29] actual air forces.

[00:37:31] Um,

[00:37:33] origins a little bit uncertain,

[00:37:34] but it seems to date back to world war two.

[00:37:36] This was actually included as a tribute to major Steven,

[00:37:42] major Steven Del bag bag,

[00:37:46] AKA Cajun,

[00:37:48] uh,

[00:37:48] who was thunderbolt number four,

[00:37:50] uh,

[00:37:51] or thunderbird number four.

[00:37:52] Um,

[00:37:53] he consulted on the film and he actually died in a training exercise shortly

[00:37:57] after the filming was created.

[00:37:59] So he,

[00:38:00] and he also appears in the movie as one of the guys playing pool at the bar

[00:38:04] during the flashbacks.

[00:38:06] Um,

[00:38:07] and so they,

[00:38:08] they included this burning piano as a,

[00:38:10] just a very brief,

[00:38:12] very,

[00:38:13] you know,

[00:38:13] kind of get it or you don't kind of tribute to them or to him.

[00:38:18] Oh,

[00:38:18] cool.

[00:38:19] Didn't realize that.

[00:38:19] That's cool.

[00:38:21] Yeah.

[00:38:21] I like that.

[00:38:22] Yeah.

[00:38:22] The,

[00:38:23] um,

[00:38:24] so the purpose of this opening dream scene was to set up the mystery of,

[00:38:29] of her past and her connection with Dr.

[00:38:31] Lawson,

[00:38:31] which we'll see over time.

[00:38:33] Um,

[00:38:34] she veers,

[00:38:35] confronts Talos about her new memories,

[00:38:38] which she claims are not hers.

[00:38:39] And Carol says,

[00:38:41] but those aren't my memories.

[00:38:42] And Taylor says,

[00:38:43] yeah,

[00:38:43] it's like a bad trip.

[00:38:44] Isn't it?

[00:38:45] I'm not surprised you can't keep it straight.

[00:38:46] They really did a number on you.

[00:38:48] Carol's like enough of your mind games.

[00:38:50] What do you want?

[00:38:50] Talos.

[00:38:51] We're looking for the location of Dr.

[00:38:53] Lawson and her lightspeed engine.

[00:38:55] Carol's like,

[00:38:55] I don't know any Dr.

[00:38:57] Lawson.

[00:38:57] And Taylor says,

[00:38:58] really?

[00:38:58] Then why is she in your head?

[00:39:00] So you've just,

[00:39:00] you know,

[00:39:01] the movie sets up with this kind of mystery of these memories,

[00:39:05] which she aren't sure are hers.

[00:39:08] Right.

[00:39:08] They aren't straight.

[00:39:09] Um,

[00:39:10] you know,

[00:39:10] kind of also will they,

[00:39:11] won't they?

[00:39:12] Yeah.

[00:39:13] Yeah.

[00:39:13] Yeah.

[00:39:13] She,

[00:39:14] uh,

[00:39:16] keep moving on.

[00:39:17] Fierce managed to free herself from her shackles,

[00:39:20] takes out a bunch more scrolls.

[00:39:21] So she gets the things off her hands,

[00:39:24] you know,

[00:39:25] throws those jazz hands around as a later referred to.

[00:39:28] She hops into escape pod and heads towards planet C 53.

[00:39:32] As the scroll ship starts to explode in the background.

[00:39:35] Do we get the nineties music at this point yet?

[00:39:40] I can't remember the very first piece of music.

[00:39:44] There's one coming up in about two minutes.

[00:39:48] Um,

[00:39:48] Oh,

[00:39:49] by the way,

[00:39:50] uh,

[00:39:50] here we go.

[00:39:50] Oh,

[00:39:50] good.

[00:39:53] There we go.

[00:39:55] Oh,

[00:39:55] thank you.

[00:39:55] Asher.

[00:39:56] Appreciate it.

[00:39:57] Good food for thought.

[00:39:59] Um,

[00:40:00] her pod is damaged,

[00:40:02] breaks apart,

[00:40:03] sends a crashing to earth or,

[00:40:05] or AKA C five,

[00:40:07] three.

[00:40:08] She crashes through a blockbuster,

[00:40:10] which is funny.

[00:40:11] Cause that is extremely nineties right now.

[00:40:14] Hey,

[00:40:15] we're in the nineties.

[00:40:16] Remember those?

[00:40:16] Hey,

[00:40:17] did that blockbuster have crystal Pepsi in it?

[00:40:22] Was Max headroom in the nineties?

[00:40:24] No,

[00:40:25] no,

[00:40:25] it's eighties.

[00:40:25] Eighties.

[00:40:26] Damn.

[00:40:26] Sorry about that.

[00:40:27] Ruined the joke.

[00:40:28] Anyway.

[00:40:28] Um,

[00:40:29] so director Ryan Fleck actually worked in a,

[00:40:31] at a blockbuster in 1995.

[00:40:34] And in the director's commentary,

[00:40:35] they kind of talk about how much fun it was to film the scene.

[00:40:38] So she crashes through.

[00:40:40] There's a bunch of Easter eggs.

[00:40:41] She blasts a cardboard cutout of Arnold Schwarzenegger from true lies.

[00:40:46] They,

[00:40:47] uh,

[00:40:47] they wanted to use the mask,

[00:40:48] but they couldn't because of their green face,

[00:40:49] but they couldn't get approval from Warner brothers.

[00:40:51] She picks up a VHS cassette of the right stuff.

[00:40:56] They're test pilots,

[00:40:57] test pilot movie.

[00:40:59] And then she approaches the security guard in his car and asks him where she

[00:41:04] can find communications equipment.

[00:41:06] That security guard is Barry Curtis,

[00:41:08] who is the on set director for Marvel security.

[00:41:13] And I can 100% smell the,

[00:41:15] the,

[00:41:16] uh,

[00:41:16] blockbuster scene too.

[00:41:19] Totally.

[00:41:21] Totally.

[00:41:21] Turn around the corner.

[00:41:22] You're hoping to rent like,

[00:41:23] you know,

[00:41:24] whatever movie from 1995.

[00:41:26] Oh,

[00:41:26] they're all out.

[00:41:27] Damn.

[00:41:28] Yeah.

[00:41:28] Damn.

[00:41:29] Or maybe hoping to rent some,

[00:41:31] uh,

[00:41:31] some,

[00:41:32] uh,

[00:41:32] games.

[00:41:33] Hold on.

[00:41:33] I have,

[00:41:34] uh,

[00:41:34] maybe,

[00:41:35] oh,

[00:41:36] I saw games in here.

[00:41:37] Hold on.

[00:41:37] These,

[00:41:38] not,

[00:41:38] nevermind.

[00:41:39] Oregon trail.

[00:41:40] That's just,

[00:41:43] so,

[00:41:44] um,

[00:41:44] the,

[00:41:45] we will mention songs and we will kind of maybe thumbs up,

[00:41:48] thumbs down as to the appropriateness right now.

[00:41:50] The,

[00:41:50] uh,

[00:41:51] he's listened to salt and pepper,

[00:41:53] salt and pepper.

[00:41:54] What a man.

[00:41:54] Yeah.

[00:41:55] Which does not seem,

[00:41:56] it seems a little out of,

[00:41:57] out of place for the character,

[00:41:59] but I think that's the joke.

[00:42:01] I think the joke is that security guards are dumb and that we should laugh at them.

[00:42:09] Which to be fair,

[00:42:10] this,

[00:42:10] this security guard is actually a security guard.

[00:42:13] This is Marvel head of security.

[00:42:14] I'm just saying like in the,

[00:42:16] in the world of bad movie humor,

[00:42:19] it's,

[00:42:20] oh,

[00:42:20] huh.

[00:42:21] He's a security guard.

[00:42:23] Yeah.

[00:42:23] It's like,

[00:42:24] he doesn't know.

[00:42:28] So again,

[00:42:29] in another,

[00:42:30] uh,

[00:42:32] you know,

[00:42:33] um,

[00:42:34] nod to nostalgia,

[00:42:35] she goes into a radio shack.

[00:42:39] Shout out to my ham radio nerd friends.

[00:42:42] And then she makes a community with nighttime.

[00:42:44] When she arrived,

[00:42:45] she,

[00:42:46] the radio shack must've been enthralling.

[00:42:48] So when she comes out,

[00:42:49] it's daytime,

[00:42:50] but we'll put that aside.

[00:42:51] She makes this communicator radio shacks are enthralling.

[00:42:54] I gotta say,

[00:42:55] I can imagine.

[00:42:56] Every,

[00:42:57] think of how many resistor,

[00:42:58] every switch.

[00:42:59] Think of how many 3.5 inch floppy disks she could have purchased.

[00:43:04] Nineties.

[00:43:08] What's that?

[00:43:09] A dial up modem?

[00:43:10] Sign me up.

[00:43:12] So she takes some radio shack equipment and Nintendo game boy and like a

[00:43:19] communications key from her students and a pay phone.

[00:43:22] And basically,

[00:43:23] just in case you're not sure where this is set.

[00:43:28] It's the nineties.

[00:43:29] Yeah.

[00:43:30] And then she logged into AOL and got on map quest.

[00:43:35] Should have.

[00:43:36] Why not?

[00:43:36] Right.

[00:43:37] Um,

[00:43:38] so she's able to somehow reach Yon-Rogg galaxies away using this.

[00:43:43] Jerry rigged kind of like comms system.

[00:43:46] And she tells him that she is on C 53.

[00:43:50] Um,

[00:43:51] the key,

[00:43:52] I will point out that that little key is the key that is used later.

[00:43:55] And it's incorporated into the pager that she gives fury towards the end of

[00:43:58] the movie.

[00:43:59] She tells,,

[00:44:00] uh,

[00:44:01] Yon

[00:44:01] -Rogg, uh,

[00:44:03] Jude law

[00:44:03] about Dr. Lawson

[00:44:04] and her light speed tech. And that

[00:44:06] she needs to find loss before the scrolls do. So while

[00:44:10] she is on her comms device, she is

[00:44:13] approached by a very young looking Nick Fury and agent Colson, which the

[00:44:18] first time I watched it through me,

[00:44:21] like,

[00:44:23] um,

[00:44:24] the,

[00:44:25] uh,

[00:44:25] the,

[00:44:26] the,

[00:44:27] cause we've seen de-aging in,

[00:44:29] in films before,

[00:44:30] right?

[00:44:30] In Ant-Man and civil war and gardens to an ant-man,

[00:44:36] the wasp,

[00:44:37] they use them for like scenes here and there.

[00:44:38] This is an entire movie.

[00:44:40] Um,

[00:44:40] but kudos to them.

[00:44:42] I,

[00:44:42] I don't know about you all,

[00:44:43] but like,

[00:44:43] I actually found the de-aging to not be entirely distracting.

[00:44:46] I actually thought it was pretty good.

[00:44:47] I think it worked well.

[00:44:48] What they could have done though,

[00:44:50] better is give them frosted tips.

[00:44:52] Yeah.

[00:44:52] I agree.

[00:44:53] I agree.

[00:44:54] You could have gone frosted tips.

[00:44:56] You could put like,

[00:44:57] you know,

[00:44:58] like a zigzag cut in the part.

[00:45:00] Right.

[00:45:01] Um,

[00:45:02] but whatever.

[00:45:03] Give a giant car.

[00:45:04] Oh,

[00:45:05] we saw the giant car phone.

[00:45:06] Colson had it,

[00:45:07] right?

[00:45:07] Like,

[00:45:08] he's like,

[00:45:08] Hey guys,

[00:45:08] where are you?

[00:45:09] Um,

[00:45:09] the thing I want to point out real quick,

[00:45:11] they were,

[00:45:12] um,

[00:45:12] because this movie is set in 1995 and they were de-aged for it.

[00:45:16] So Jackson,

[00:45:18] Samuel Jackson wore a wig in his scenes and they added dots to his face.

[00:45:22] And then some poor people at a company called Lola VFX had to hand paint every frame.

[00:45:29] Wow.

[00:45:30] Yeah.

[00:45:31] Yeah.

[00:45:32] That's crazy.

[00:45:32] Yeah.

[00:45:33] But it looks,

[00:45:33] it looks really good.

[00:45:34] I think the reason why,

[00:45:36] um,

[00:45:37] it went in,

[00:45:38] in rewatching the movie,

[00:45:39] I noticed that all the scenes are for the most part,

[00:45:42] except like in the spaceship,

[00:45:43] but even that are pretty well lit.

[00:45:45] Cause I think like doing it like in darker nighttime may not have turned out as well.

[00:45:49] But so Fury says,

[00:45:53] quote,

[00:45:54] you know,

[00:45:54] anything about a lady blowing up a blockbuster witnesses says she was dressed for laser tag.

[00:45:59] And Carol's like,

[00:46:00] yeah,

[00:46:00] I think she went that way.

[00:46:01] So Fury asks her for identification.

[00:46:04] She says her name is fear and that she's creased star,

[00:46:07] star forest and quote,

[00:46:08] she doesn't carry a paper ID piece of paper,

[00:46:10] which I thought was funny.

[00:46:12] She explains that she'll leave as soon as she can track down the shape shifting scrolls that are infiltrating their planets.

[00:46:17] Uh,

[00:46:18] the,

[00:46:19] as the,

[00:46:20] as she explains the situation with the scrolls,

[00:46:22] they are ambushed by a scroll who shoots at them.

[00:46:26] So this leads to this fun chase scene where veers pursues the scroll on foot.

[00:46:34] Um,

[00:46:35] music playing.

[00:46:36] What was the music playing?

[00:46:38] I don't remember.

[00:46:39] I think it was it.

[00:46:40] I'm only happy when it rains.

[00:46:42] No,

[00:46:42] that's when she's on the motorcycle.

[00:46:45] Um,

[00:46:46] then that leaves.

[00:46:47] And,

[00:46:47] and then,

[00:46:48] you know,

[00:46:48] she's pursuing Taylor's who in a senior earlier had like disguised as a surfer girl,

[00:46:53] surfer person.

[00:46:54] Um,

[00:46:55] and then fearing Colson follow in a wild car.

[00:46:58] She's seen,

[00:46:58] think like French connection.

[00:47:00] So the scene,

[00:47:02] by the way,

[00:47:02] I would point out the scene where Carol's running up the stairs to the train.

[00:47:05] That was the first shot of the film.

[00:47:09] So veers runs down the train platform as train prepares to leave the scroll on it.

[00:47:14] She managed,

[00:47:15] she bumps shoulders with an old person,

[00:47:18] checkoffs,

[00:47:18] old person.

[00:47:19] She managed to hop aboard and spot a suspicious person.

[00:47:22] And it's Stanley as himself reading the script from Kevin Smith's mall rats from 1995.

[00:47:29] We're citing the line over and over again.

[00:47:33] And trust me,

[00:47:34] true believer.

[00:47:35] And then I'm really disappointed.

[00:47:37] They didn't use the part where he talked about,

[00:47:39] uh,

[00:47:41] Mr.

[00:47:42] Fantastic's growable schlong.

[00:47:43] Uh,

[00:47:46] that,

[00:47:46] that would have been the better line.

[00:47:47] Well,

[00:47:47] that would have been spoilers for the,

[00:47:49] uh,

[00:47:50] you didn't see.

[00:47:50] Yeah.

[00:47:51] You didn't see.

[00:47:51] That's one that's both fantastic.

[00:47:53] You obviously didn't watch the deleted scenes.

[00:47:56] Hello.

[00:47:58] eventually,

[00:47:59] um,

[00:47:59] and one thing to point out in the scene.

[00:48:01] So Stanley's help was obviously in serious decline.

[00:48:04] Cause he died,

[00:48:05] you know,

[00:48:05] in,

[00:48:06] in production and he couldn't normal,

[00:48:08] his normal.

[00:48:09] They called me the thing.

[00:48:10] Slobber time.

[00:48:14] Oh no.

[00:48:16] Oh no.

[00:48:18] Here we go.

[00:48:19] Stan going to have some pudding pops.

[00:48:25] Trust me,

[00:48:26] true believer.

[00:48:31] Now talk about how his health is in decline.

[00:48:34] His health was in decline.

[00:48:37] Couldn't muster his normal enthusiasm.

[00:48:40] Yeah.

[00:48:41] Right.

[00:48:41] So they looped in unused audio from all rats.

[00:48:44] And then during production,

[00:48:46] like cracking up,

[00:48:49] trying to like give this man,

[00:48:50] this dead man,

[00:48:51] a tribute here.

[00:48:51] God damn it.

[00:48:53] Um,

[00:48:56] can someone see my mouth moving?

[00:49:02] My wife,

[00:49:10] Jack Kirby.

[00:49:16] So we hear a soft version of Michael G and Kino's Marvel studios,

[00:49:19] fanfare play in the background.

[00:49:21] And the scene was extended a bit with Carol's gaze lingering on him as she

[00:49:26] smiles.

[00:49:33] And scene.

[00:49:35] Hey,

[00:49:35] do you guys remember the Dewey decimals?

[00:49:43] Oh man.

[00:49:45] Oh man.

[00:49:46] Here we go.

[00:49:49] If you like this Thor dark world.

[00:49:53] Is a fantastic.

[00:49:56] Listen.

[00:49:58] Let me guys least listen to episode.

[00:50:02] Oh my God.

[00:50:04] Uh,

[00:50:05] eventually veers runs into the old late quote,

[00:50:08] old lady on the train character that bumped her early on the platform.

[00:50:10] And she realized she's a scroll and they get into like this very violent

[00:50:14] extended train fight.

[00:50:16] And I can only imagine like your reaction.

[00:50:19] Do you say something?

[00:50:20] Or you're just like,

[00:50:20] Oh man,

[00:50:22] stupid train,

[00:50:22] man.

[00:50:23] It's always something.

[00:50:23] Right.

[00:50:24] Well,

[00:50:25] based on my reaction to the,

[00:50:27] the scene where Jude law beats up.

[00:50:30] Free Larson.

[00:50:32] I would probably just go,

[00:50:33] I guess.

[00:50:35] Exactly.

[00:50:38] What goes down on the a train stays on the a train.

[00:50:41] Um,

[00:50:42] the,

[00:50:42] by the way,

[00:50:43] I,

[00:50:43] I really,

[00:50:44] really wish that they would have just,

[00:50:46] they need to do these things every once in a while,

[00:50:49] just for fun.

[00:50:50] Like just have the old lady kick her ass.

[00:50:53] And then be like,

[00:50:54] no,

[00:50:55] I'm not,

[00:50:55] I'm not.

[00:50:59] I'm just an old lady.

[00:51:01] You can get your ass.

[00:51:05] That's the scroll.

[00:51:06] What are you talking about?

[00:51:08] That old lady is a stunt double.

[00:51:10] Bash your scroll right now.

[00:51:14] It's clobber.

[00:51:18] It's clobber time.

[00:51:24] Oh,

[00:51:25] lady smash.

[00:51:28] Oh,

[00:51:29] old lady Hulk would be amazing.

[00:51:31] That'd be pretty good.

[00:51:33] Actually.

[00:51:34] Side note.

[00:51:35] I don't know if you've ever seen the key and peel Stan Lee skit.

[00:51:39] No.

[00:51:40] Oh,

[00:51:41] it's,

[00:51:41] I'm again,

[00:51:42] it's fantastic.

[00:51:44] Pause the podcast and go check it out.

[00:51:45] It is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

[00:51:47] Yeah.

[00:51:48] Anyway,

[00:51:49] the,

[00:51:49] uh,

[00:51:49] the stunt,

[00:51:49] the old lady steps.

[00:51:50] We got the old lady.

[00:51:51] her stunt double is Heidi moneymaker and Brie Larson stunt double as her sister,

[00:51:55] Renee moneymaker.

[00:51:56] So it's basically like sisters fighting on their train,

[00:51:59] which I thought was,

[00:52:05] okay.

[00:52:06] Meanwhile,

[00:52:07] fear and Colson or what we believe to be Colson continue their car pursuit.

[00:52:11] Would they get a call from the real agent Colson?

[00:52:13] And what looks to be like one of those Nokia brick phones,

[00:52:18] fury quickly realized that the Colson in the car is actually a scroll or as I like to call

[00:52:23] him agent Scrawlson.

[00:52:25] Oh,

[00:52:26] and yeah,

[00:52:27] I got stole that from the directors.

[00:52:29] Um,

[00:52:30] fury crashes,

[00:52:31] his car kills the scroll and then brings it to shield to be,

[00:52:35] um,

[00:52:37] uh,

[00:52:37] analyzed.

[00:52:38] The scroll on the train managed to evade fears,

[00:52:41] but she learns a clue about Dr.

[00:52:42] Larson,

[00:52:43] Dr.

[00:52:43] Lawson project Pegasus and Poncho's bar using this like skull drive,

[00:52:48] scroll drive thing that was dropped during the chase.

[00:52:52] And she does what anyone else would do in 1995.

[00:52:56] She does the Macarena.

[00:53:01] And thank you for that song in my head.

[00:53:04] Um,

[00:53:05] she,

[00:53:05] and the G or is 12 CDs from Columbia.

[00:53:08] Oh,

[00:53:08] totally.

[00:53:09] The,

[00:53:10] um,

[00:53:10] the,

[00:53:11] we get a,

[00:53:11] we do get,

[00:53:11] uh,

[00:53:12] to Ryan's earlier comment.

[00:53:13] We do at like minute 33 and a half.

[00:53:15] There's a Kelly Sue DeConnick,

[00:53:17] the captain Marvel writer from 2012 to 15 is one of the train station bystanders who

[00:53:21] looks at captain Marvel with like a colored hair.

[00:53:25] Um,

[00:53:26] she wants to find out more about project Pegasus and Poncho's bar.

[00:53:30] So she goes to an internet cafe.

[00:53:33] And searches more for it using Alta Vista.

[00:53:37] Shout out to pre Google search engine.

[00:53:41] She grabs a map,

[00:53:42] steals a motorcycle and heads to Poncho's bar.

[00:53:45] So after she orders several pogs and mini babies,

[00:53:53] you'd be surprised.

[00:53:55] Dr.

[00:53:55] Raspberry is worth a lot of money these days.

[00:54:00] I love,

[00:54:01] I do love the idea that someone who barely,

[00:54:03] who has no conception about the internet works.

[00:54:06] It's like punching in the terms.

[00:54:08] And if,

[00:54:08] if you look in the screen for project Pegasus,

[00:54:10] the top three results are who,

[00:54:13] who rides a Pegasus.

[00:54:15] Number two is flying horse project.

[00:54:17] And number three is mythical winged creature.

[00:54:19] So she's like,

[00:54:19] none of this stuff helps at all.

[00:54:21] So I think on mythical winged creature too,

[00:54:24] like in the actual description,

[00:54:26] if you pause it and look,

[00:54:27] it talks about Disney's Hercules,

[00:54:29] which didn't come out until 97.

[00:54:31] Oh my God.

[00:54:33] Huge air.

[00:54:34] I'm over this movie now.

[00:54:36] Yeah.

[00:54:36] You know what?

[00:54:37] I,

[00:54:37] I,

[00:54:38] this is unforgivable as a Disney fan.

[00:54:43] And I,

[00:54:44] um,

[00:54:45] ruins my appreciate for appreciation for the parks as well.

[00:54:48] It's like the magic's gone.

[00:54:49] Hey,

[00:54:49] go,

[00:54:50] go broke,

[00:54:50] right?

[00:54:54] God damn it.

[00:54:56] Uh,

[00:54:59] and just as a comment,

[00:55:00] project,

[00:55:00] project Pegasus is,

[00:55:01] uh,

[00:55:02] seen in Iron Man two and it's seen as the Avengers.

[00:55:04] So it's something we've seen a couple of times before.

[00:55:06] So it's not necessarily new.

[00:55:08] So we cut to an autopsy scene,

[00:55:10] which is pulled straight from the secret invasion comics,

[00:55:13] um,

[00:55:13] performed on a dead scroll at a shield facility.

[00:55:17] The autopsy performer tells Fury that the creature was from another planet

[00:55:22] because he is not carbon based.

[00:55:25] Uh,

[00:55:26] and then Fury is joined by shield director,

[00:55:30] R Keller,

[00:55:31] not R Kelly.

[00:55:32] Uh,

[00:55:33] uh,

[00:55:34] who asked Fury.

[00:55:35] Oh,

[00:55:36] wait a second now.

[00:55:38] I wish her R Kelly.

[00:55:40] It'd be a totally different story.

[00:55:43] Rolling fresh at the party.

[00:55:46] That,

[00:55:47] that makes what Samuel L Jackson checks.

[00:55:49] We set in bombing fluid.

[00:55:52] You idiot.

[00:55:58] That's him,

[00:55:58] right?

[00:55:59] Yeah.

[00:55:59] Yeah.

[00:55:59] Okay.

[00:56:03] As Fury leaves,

[00:56:05] Keller kneels down and says to the now dead scroll,

[00:56:09] safe journeys into the beyond.

[00:56:11] My friend.

[00:56:12] Whoa,

[00:56:12] whoa.

[00:56:13] What was that?

[00:56:14] That's not Australian.

[00:56:16] I didn't realize that that character was played by that actor until I saw the,

[00:56:23] the,

[00:56:23] like,

[00:56:24] yeah.

[00:56:25] Yeah.

[00:56:25] He's like the quintessential,

[00:56:27] like that guy from political thriller movies.

[00:56:30] Like,

[00:56:31] like it was,

[00:56:32] it was kind of cool.

[00:56:33] I'm like,

[00:56:33] Oh,

[00:56:34] he usually doesn't have any range in these movies and that he's playing a part that gives

[00:56:40] him a lot of range.

[00:56:41] How nice for him.

[00:56:46] Uh,

[00:56:46] so yeah,

[00:56:47] uh,

[00:56:48] apparently every,

[00:56:49] everybody's a scroll.

[00:56:50] We,

[00:56:51] David,

[00:56:52] I don't know how we're going to do our,

[00:56:53] who's a scroll.

[00:56:54] Just question.

[00:57:03] Oh boy.

[00:57:12] Oh boy.

[00:57:14] The,

[00:57:14] the nineties or the nineties,

[00:57:16] everybody.

[00:57:20] I will,

[00:57:21] um,

[00:57:22] the,

[00:57:22] um,

[00:57:23] the cheeky little glance that Samuel Jackson gives to,

[00:57:27] uh,

[00:57:27] that Fury gives to the scroll to check out a genitalia.

[00:57:31] Um,

[00:57:32] surprisingly not written to the script.

[00:57:34] Just kind of improvised it.

[00:57:35] Let's see what's going on down there.

[00:57:38] Uh,

[00:57:39] and strike up only happy when it rains,

[00:57:43] uh,

[00:57:45] by garbage.

[00:57:47] It is garbage.

[00:57:50] I wish,

[00:57:51] I wish that like they would have,

[00:57:55] cause presumably,

[00:57:56] wait,

[00:57:56] no,

[00:57:57] that's not true.

[00:57:58] Hold on.

[00:57:59] Let me think of this through Carol Danvers.

[00:58:01] Was she on earth in the nineties?

[00:58:06] No,

[00:58:07] no.

[00:58:08] Cause well,

[00:58:08] 1989 she was gone.

[00:58:10] She was taken away.

[00:58:11] Yeah.

[00:58:11] That was one of my nitpicks of like,

[00:58:13] why,

[00:58:13] why don't we have like 89 L 95?

[00:58:16] Yeah.

[00:58:17] That would have worked.

[00:58:17] I think better.

[00:58:19] Cause people were still listening to that stuff in 95 anyway.

[00:58:23] Yeah.

[00:58:23] Um,

[00:58:25] it's just this,

[00:58:26] yeah,

[00:58:26] it's this weird smattering of like taste,

[00:58:30] like zero focus or taste.

[00:58:32] Just like,

[00:58:33] Hey,

[00:58:33] remember this?

[00:58:36] Remember the nineties?

[00:58:37] She's this is a lady and she's on a thing.

[00:58:41] And that's wouldn't,

[00:58:42] this is a kick-ass song.

[00:58:43] It sounds,

[00:58:44] she's also a lady.

[00:58:46] And that's,

[00:58:47] I think,

[00:58:47] I think that's what led.

[00:58:49] Cause the,

[00:58:50] that's one of the things about this movie.

[00:58:52] I actually turned my wife and said,

[00:58:53] I was like the nostalgia bomb that was this movie.

[00:58:58] Like it,

[00:59:00] when this movie first came out,

[00:59:01] that was kind of novel,

[00:59:03] right?

[00:59:03] For,

[00:59:03] for the MCU.

[00:59:04] There wasn't,

[00:59:05] there wasn't that,

[00:59:07] that like,

[00:59:08] there was one movie that was like about back in time,

[00:59:12] but that was about world war two.

[00:59:13] That's not,

[00:59:15] you're not trying to get people who have nostalgia for world war two to,

[00:59:18] to enjoy that movie.

[00:59:20] Um,

[00:59:21] this was novel for the time for superhero movies to kind of be based in a

[00:59:29] time gone past that is recent enough to create nostalgia.

[00:59:34] And so it,

[00:59:36] watching it in theaters,

[00:59:37] it somewhat worked,

[00:59:38] but like,

[00:59:39] I think that's something about this movie that has not aged well with it.

[00:59:42] It's just that like cudgel of nostalgia that they just beat you over the

[00:59:47] head with.

[00:59:47] Yeah.

[00:59:48] It's just,

[00:59:48] it,

[00:59:49] it's all,

[00:59:49] it's just like watching VH one before VH one ceased to exist.

[00:59:53] Um,

[00:59:54] I,

[00:59:54] I mean,

[00:59:55] I,

[00:59:55] I'm assuming it ceased to exist.

[00:59:57] I don't,

[00:59:57] if it shouldn't,

[00:59:58] it shouldn't exist anymore,

[00:59:59] but like,

[01:00:01] it would have been interesting if,

[01:00:03] for example,

[01:00:04] they would have had it be nothing but garbage or,

[01:00:07] you know,

[01:00:08] or have garbage the band now be like,

[01:00:12] or,

[01:00:12] or in 2019,

[01:00:13] who I,

[01:00:14] uh,

[01:00:15] assuming they're still together,

[01:00:16] have them come up with new songs that sound like that time.

[01:00:21] Like have,

[01:00:21] have there be a sense of an overall sense of aesthetic taste to it,

[01:00:26] rather than it just being like not here.

[01:00:29] Nineties from our nineties.

[01:00:30] Remember that?

[01:00:32] Have Trent Reznor do the,

[01:00:33] the,

[01:00:34] the score along with the movie or along with the songs or,

[01:00:39] yeah.

[01:00:41] I want to scroll you like.

[01:00:46] Yeah.

[01:00:49] The,

[01:00:50] the,

[01:00:51] or you just,

[01:00:52] you just take songs from the nineties and then you just put scroll and

[01:00:55] everything and re and redo them.

[01:00:57] Like I want scrolls in candy.

[01:01:05] Anyway,

[01:01:06] or just have it all ace of base.

[01:01:07] They all sound the same.

[01:01:13] Oh,

[01:01:14] so veers heads to poncho's bar where she's flooded with memories and

[01:01:18] begins asking questions,

[01:01:19] uh,

[01:01:21] uh,

[01:01:21] about Pegasus fury appears and says,

[01:01:23] that's classified.

[01:01:24] Not unlike the file I started on you.

[01:01:28] Um,

[01:01:30] she then asks him a series of questions of personal questions to prove

[01:01:35] that he's not a scroll.

[01:01:36] Where you,

[01:01:37] where were you born?

[01:01:38] Huntsville,

[01:01:39] Alabama.

[01:01:39] But technically I don't remember that part.

[01:01:42] What's the name of your first pet?

[01:01:44] Mr.

[01:01:44] Snoofers,

[01:01:46] Mr.

[01:01:46] Snoofers.

[01:01:48] That's what I said.

[01:01:49] Do I pass?

[01:01:50] Not yet.

[01:01:51] First job soldier straight out of high school,

[01:01:54] left the ranks,

[01:01:55] went full bird colonel,

[01:01:57] then spy where it was a cold where war.

[01:02:02] We were everywhere.

[01:02:03] Uh,

[01:02:03] Belfast,

[01:02:04] Bucharest,

[01:02:05] Belgrade,

[01:02:05] Budapest.

[01:02:06] I like the bees.

[01:02:07] I can make them rhyme.

[01:02:09] Call back to,

[01:02:10] uh,

[01:02:11] the winter soldier.

[01:02:12] When Pierce talks about a rescue mission that fear initiated in

[01:02:16] Bogota.

[01:02:17] Um,

[01:02:17] one of the things I never noticed until literally just this morning,

[01:02:23] rewatching it yet again,

[01:02:24] um,

[01:02:25] in the scene when she's looking at a plane,

[01:02:27] there is a Pegasus,

[01:02:28] which appears in the wing of the plane,

[01:02:31] which is identical to the hats that we'll see in a minute.

[01:02:34] Never noticed it before.

[01:02:36] It's like,

[01:02:36] Oh,

[01:02:36] okay.

[01:02:37] Yeah.

[01:02:38] Um,

[01:02:39] that's what you see when you slow it down to 1.25 speeds.

[01:02:42] Yeah.

[01:02:43] Click on that.

[01:02:43] 2 point,

[01:02:44] whatever guy,

[01:02:45] 2 point,

[01:02:45] is it 2.25?

[01:02:47] 2.5?

[01:02:47] Is it 2.5?

[01:02:49] What is it?

[01:02:49] 2.5?

[01:02:49] It's 0.25.

[01:02:51] 0.25.

[01:02:52] Oh,

[01:02:52] wait.

[01:02:52] So he's watching it at slow motion.

[01:02:55] Yeah.

[01:02:55] Oh,

[01:02:55] sorry.

[01:02:56] Not speed it up.

[01:02:57] It's,

[01:02:57] it's one quarter speed.

[01:02:59] You got it.

[01:03:00] Have you,

[01:03:00] and you haven't had this guy on?

[01:03:02] Not yet.

[01:03:03] You need to.

[01:03:03] I know.

[01:03:05] I know.

[01:03:06] Which means like,

[01:03:07] end game would be 10 hours.

[01:03:11] With the audio?

[01:03:13] I can't.

[01:03:14] I,

[01:03:14] I guess.

[01:03:15] I,

[01:03:16] I,

[01:03:16] I haven't watched too much of his videos.

[01:03:18] I need to go watch them,

[01:03:19] but yeah,

[01:03:20] it's.

[01:03:21] It's.

[01:03:23] Avengers.

[01:03:28] Assemble.

[01:03:31] That sounds awful.

[01:03:32] Nevermind.

[01:03:33] Um,

[01:03:33] the other,

[01:03:34] the other thing that,

[01:03:35] that.

[01:03:36] Fury establishes here is him not being a scroll is that he,

[01:03:40] that also launched a million fan theories that he will only eat.

[01:03:44] He cannot eat toast if it's cut into triangles.

[01:03:47] Uh,

[01:03:47] which means that every nerd out there went back and rewatched civil war at

[01:03:53] very slow speeds.

[01:03:53] Cause he happens to eat toast in that movie.

[01:03:56] Um,

[01:03:57] and to figure out if it's trying to cut right.

[01:03:59] Stupid.

[01:04:00] It is the stupidest part of the fandom.

[01:04:02] Actually,

[01:04:03] it's not the stupidest part of the cut in a circle.

[01:04:05] Yeah.

[01:04:06] Cause he doesn't.

[01:04:08] Ultimately,

[01:04:09] uh,

[01:04:09] fury is able to convince the ears that he's not a scroll.

[01:04:13] The two joined for forces and search for the truth behind Wendy Lawson.

[01:04:18] As they drive towards the shield facility.

[01:04:21] She explains the differences between scrolls and Cree.

[01:04:24] She wants to stop the scrolls before they get to Dr.

[01:04:28] Lawson's light speed engine,

[01:04:29] which is the goal of project Pegasus and classic nineties song.

[01:04:36] TLC waterfalls plays for some inexplicable reason.

[01:04:41] Don't go Jason.

[01:04:43] That's insane.

[01:04:45] Although to be fair,

[01:04:47] fury would listen to waterfalls.

[01:04:49] I know.

[01:04:51] No question,

[01:04:52] but it just didn't really fit.

[01:04:55] Yeah.

[01:04:56] Well,

[01:04:57] it,

[01:04:57] again,

[01:04:58] it's just sort of like,

[01:05:00] Hey,

[01:05:00] remember,

[01:05:00] I think what it is is we have spent too much time talking about story and

[01:05:06] they,

[01:05:07] we,

[01:05:07] we might've forgotten that we were in 1995 and nobody like drank from a

[01:05:13] Capri sun pouch or.

[01:05:16] Yeah.

[01:05:17] You're not,

[01:05:17] you're not quite into that weird,

[01:05:19] uh,

[01:05:20] like orb webcam sitting on a triangular base.

[01:05:25] Yeah.

[01:05:26] Right.

[01:05:27] So it's just like,

[01:05:27] Oh,

[01:05:28] what if the audience forgot that we're in the nineties?

[01:05:31] I know play.

[01:05:33] Don't go chasing waterfalls.

[01:05:35] Play.

[01:05:36] Semi-charmed life by third hour blind.

[01:05:41] Now I want that to be a thing.

[01:05:43] Somebody just goes in and hits like shuffle on a,

[01:05:46] on a Spotify playlist and just re,

[01:05:50] re scores this movie.

[01:05:51] I mean,

[01:05:52] you may as well,

[01:05:53] to be perfectly honest,

[01:05:54] you could.

[01:05:56] So it'd be almost like the guardians ride where it's just a different song

[01:05:59] every time.

[01:05:59] Yeah,

[01:06:00] exactly.

[01:06:00] Maybe that's where they got the idea.

[01:06:02] So we were talking about like,

[01:06:04] why?

[01:06:04] So you basically,

[01:06:05] they want you to watch it over and over again.

[01:06:06] So you're like,

[01:06:07] you're like,

[01:06:07] Oh man,

[01:06:08] I really hope I get sugar Ray this time.

[01:06:10] I really hope I get sugar Ray.

[01:06:13] So at this point,

[01:06:14] the whole thing should have just been bittersweet symphony over and over.

[01:06:20] And I wouldn't have minded to be perfectly honest.

[01:06:28] So they arrive at the facility and they're stopped by security.

[01:06:32] Fury announces himself as Nicholas,

[01:06:33] Joseph fury,

[01:06:35] agent of shield flashes his identification badge.

[01:06:38] She makes a comment about him having three names.

[01:06:41] And he tells her that everyone calls him fury,

[01:06:44] not Nicholas,

[01:06:45] not Joseph,

[01:06:46] just Nick or just fury.

[01:06:49] Sorry.

[01:06:50] Yeah.

[01:06:51] I do like the part of like,

[01:06:53] what were your kids?

[01:06:53] If I had them,

[01:06:54] they'd call me fury.

[01:06:55] What'd you call your mom?

[01:06:57] Yeah.

[01:06:58] In a scene that screams,

[01:07:00] this is going to be useful later.

[01:07:04] Right.

[01:07:06] Chekhov's nickname.

[01:07:07] Yeah.

[01:07:10] It is kind of fun when you see his,

[01:07:12] his ID,

[01:07:12] you see that he's,

[01:07:15] he was,

[01:07:15] you know,

[01:07:16] born on the 4th of July,

[01:07:18] 1950,

[01:07:20] which makes him 45 in movie timeline.

[01:07:25] His idea also shows him having level three clearance,

[01:07:27] which we now know he has level 10 clearance.

[01:07:31] So kind of showing the progression of the character,

[01:07:34] you know,

[01:07:34] even just in scene details here.

[01:07:37] There have been a couple of characters.

[01:07:39] So Alexander Pierce and Steve Rogers have called him Nick.

[01:07:41] I don't know if that makes them scrolls,

[01:07:43] but man.

[01:07:45] Yeah,

[01:07:46] probably.

[01:07:47] Okay.

[01:07:49] So they drive into an underground facility and inquire about the location of

[01:07:54] Dr.

[01:07:54] Lawson.

[01:07:56] The agent looks at furious credentials.

[01:07:59] And the next thing we see is them locked in a holding room.

[01:08:04] Fury tries to use his fingerprint.

[01:08:05] Doesn't let him out.

[01:08:07] He sends off a text from his pager.

[01:08:10] Veers scouts the location for,

[01:08:14] for the records rooms.

[01:08:16] Well,

[01:08:16] Fury uses some tape to lift a fingerprint from his ID and open the door.

[01:08:24] Um,

[01:08:25] I,

[01:08:25] I do think this is fun that,

[01:08:26] uh,

[01:08:29] there's kind of a,

[01:08:30] I,

[01:08:30] well,

[01:08:31] I actually want to go back.

[01:08:32] I,

[01:08:32] I wonder if this is the phase three thing.

[01:08:35] So phase two,

[01:08:35] everybody lost an arm,

[01:08:37] right?

[01:08:37] I think phase three,

[01:08:39] they make fun of hats and sunglasses as a disguise in like every movie.

[01:08:46] Could be.

[01:08:46] Cause they did it last one,

[01:08:47] right?

[01:08:48] Yeah.

[01:08:48] And they did it here.

[01:08:49] Yep.

[01:08:50] Also not sure if it's a nineties reference,

[01:08:52] but it's kind of a,

[01:08:54] uh,

[01:08:55] um,

[01:08:55] I,

[01:08:56] I lost the name.

[01:08:58] MacGyver move.

[01:09:00] Oh yeah.

[01:09:01] Fury.

[01:09:02] That's the eighties though,

[01:09:03] right?

[01:09:04] Yes.

[01:09:05] Yeah.

[01:09:05] I think that's more eighties.

[01:09:07] Maybe even I'm going to,

[01:09:10] so,

[01:09:10] okay.

[01:09:11] David,

[01:09:11] I think you're looking up.

[01:09:12] I'm going to call it.

[01:09:13] I think it was maybe the show probably ended like 92 or 93.

[01:09:20] You are correct.

[01:09:21] Yeah.

[01:09:22] Let's go trivia team.

[01:09:24] 85 to 92.

[01:09:27] I'll take obscure knowledge for 600.

[01:09:31] Alex.

[01:09:33] Cultural failure for 1000.

[01:09:36] I'll take hours.

[01:09:38] I waste on TV for 200.

[01:09:42] So as they,

[01:09:43] uh,

[01:09:44] as they go through the,

[01:09:45] the Pegasus bunker,

[01:09:47] they,

[01:09:48] they encounter goose,

[01:09:49] the quote unquote cat.

[01:09:51] Uh,

[01:09:52] and they find another locked door to the records room.

[01:09:56] Fury's like pulling out his,

[01:09:57] his tape fingerprint.

[01:09:59] And,

[01:10:00] uh,

[01:10:03] and Carol just blasts it with a photon blast.

[01:10:06] And they head into the records room.

[01:10:08] Fun little exchange of like,

[01:10:09] wait,

[01:10:09] you could do that the whole time.

[01:10:11] Come on,

[01:10:11] bro.

[01:10:12] Um,

[01:10:13] and it's like,

[01:10:14] it's Roger rabbit rules,

[01:10:15] right?

[01:10:15] Only when it's funny.

[01:10:16] Yeah,

[01:10:17] exactly.

[01:10:18] Exactly.

[01:10:19] Uh,

[01:10:19] they find files about Dr.

[01:10:21] Larson,

[01:10:22] including her notebook,

[01:10:23] which veers identifies as having Cree glyphs.

[01:10:27] Uh,

[01:10:27] Fury tells her that the project failed in 1989 and that there was a crash during an unauthorized test flight,

[01:10:34] which killed Dr.

[01:10:35] Larson and the pet,

[01:10:36] the jets unknown test pilot.

[01:10:38] The identity of the test pilot is unknown,

[01:10:41] but there is an affidavit from the last person to see them alive.

[01:10:45] Maria Rambo.

[01:10:50] Fury sends a message,

[01:10:51] uh,

[01:10:52] on his pager.

[01:10:53] Did we need to have the test pilot die?

[01:10:55] I mean,

[01:10:56] cause they,

[01:10:57] she didn't.

[01:10:58] Yeah.

[01:10:59] Yeah.

[01:10:59] She just disappeared.

[01:11:01] Guess she could have been MIA.

[01:11:02] Yeah.

[01:11:02] That would have,

[01:11:03] I think made it,

[01:11:06] that would have been more interesting.

[01:11:07] I think we already know in the context of the MCU,

[01:11:10] that MIA is only used for AIM backwards.

[01:11:13] It's true.

[01:11:17] Now you,

[01:11:18] Brian,

[01:11:18] you're seeing your third eye right now.

[01:11:20] Well done.

[01:11:23] Um,

[01:11:29] so Fury gets a text message on his,

[01:11:31] page,

[01:11:32] uh,

[01:11:33] uh,

[01:11:34] text received.

[01:11:34] Keller leaving viewers to dig a little further.

[01:11:38] She finds a photo of Dr.

[01:11:41] Lawson and Maria and an unknown pilot in the background who looks a lot like

[01:11:47] viewers.

[01:11:48] She's getting into a plane that says Carol Avenger Danvers,

[01:11:54] because the cheeseburgers would sound way worse than the Avengers.

[01:12:00] Cheeseburgers,

[01:12:01] age of Ultron.

[01:12:04] Ba da ba ba ba.

[01:12:07] It's clobbering time.

[01:12:12] One funny thing about that photo,

[01:12:13] um,

[01:12:14] which I tried to find online.

[01:12:15] I can't,

[01:12:16] I couldn't find it,

[01:12:16] but basically the pilot who's the,

[01:12:19] the,

[01:12:19] the male pilot who's shaking hands of Lawson with,

[01:12:22] uh,

[01:12:22] Maria on the left and Carol Danvers in the right rear is an actual pilot.

[01:12:27] And they're filming on the,

[01:12:28] they were basically filmed there to say,

[01:12:30] Hey,

[01:12:30] can you come here?

[01:12:30] We need you to take a photo here real quick.

[01:12:33] And so,

[01:12:34] and that person is Patrick Warburton who would later on do the voiceover.

[01:12:41] So it's not stolen valor.

[01:12:44] Great job.

[01:12:49] I,

[01:12:49] I do want to add though,

[01:12:51] cause I,

[01:12:52] I feel like I've been lost in trying to make fun of this movie that,

[01:12:55] uh,

[01:12:55] I,

[01:12:56] this is kind of the part in the movie where I'm like,

[01:12:59] okay,

[01:13:00] we get it.

[01:13:00] You guys are friends.

[01:13:01] Like Samuel L.

[01:13:03] Jackson and Brie Larson.

[01:13:04] I,

[01:13:05] I'm,

[01:13:05] I'm picking up on your chummy aesthetic and,

[01:13:09] you know,

[01:13:10] uh,

[01:13:11] don't need it really,

[01:13:13] but I'm glad you guys get along.

[01:13:16] Yeah,

[01:13:18] that's fair,

[01:13:18] but it's probably,

[01:13:19] honestly,

[01:13:20] it's probably like the best relationship in the movie.

[01:13:24] Yeah,

[01:13:25] I agree.

[01:13:26] It just doesn't help the movie.

[01:13:27] Like in,

[01:13:29] in the abstract,

[01:13:30] I completely agree with you,

[01:13:32] but it doesn't help.

[01:13:34] It does.

[01:13:35] It's,

[01:13:36] it sticks out too much a bit to me.

[01:13:38] I think I agree with that.

[01:13:40] I think the only thing that it kind of makes sense for is for,

[01:13:43] to basically expound upon Fury's origin story and to provide more

[01:13:47] information about him.

[01:13:48] Otherwise,

[01:13:48] otherwise it just feels out of place.

[01:13:50] I agree with you.

[01:13:52] Um,

[01:13:53] I,

[01:13:53] it,

[01:13:53] it might just be in the acting choices where it's just like,

[01:13:56] maybe they could be like 20% or 10% less familiar with each other.

[01:14:02] Yeah,

[01:14:03] I can see that.

[01:14:04] I can see that.

[01:14:05] Uh,

[01:14:06] so veers has a,

[01:14:07] uh,

[01:14:08] flashback to her piloting the plane,

[01:14:10] which crashed and realizes she was that test pilot.

[01:14:13] That was supposedly kill.

[01:14:16] I completely missed that until you just mentioned it.

[01:14:20] She calls Yon-Rogg and tells him that Lawson was on C 53 and died in a

[01:14:26] plane crash.

[01:14:27] He tells her that,

[01:14:28] uh,

[01:14:30] he tells her that he just discovered a mission report sent from C 53 that

[01:14:35] indicated Lawson was a Cree undercover operative named Marvell,

[01:14:42] who was working on tech that could keep the Cree or that could help the Cree win the war against

[01:14:48] the scrolls.

[01:14:49] Every,

[01:14:50] or elsewhere in the facility,

[01:14:51] we see director Keller and other shield agents arrive.

[01:14:56] It turns out Fury was contacted,

[01:14:59] uh,

[01:14:59] or contacted him and ratted out veers.

[01:15:01] Keller,

[01:15:02] she's still here.

[01:15:03] Fury,

[01:15:04] she's corrupt.

[01:15:05] She's cooperating with the investigation,

[01:15:07] sir.

[01:15:08] Keller,

[01:15:08] you men stay here.

[01:15:09] I want to question her alone.

[01:15:12] Excellent work,

[01:15:13] Nicholas.

[01:15:17] Cut back to beers.

[01:15:19] She tells him that she had a life on C 53 and that she knew Dr.

[01:15:24] Lawson and the,

[01:15:25] that she sees law Lawson when she visits the Supreme intelligence.

[01:15:32] Yon-Rogg mansplains to her that she remembers her training and to not let her

[01:15:39] emotions outweigh her judgment.

[01:15:41] He tells her that to leave her beacon on so that they can find her and figure

[01:15:47] out,

[01:15:48] figure it all out together.

[01:15:50] Cause you know,

[01:15:51] she can't figure it out.

[01:15:52] She's just a girl.

[01:15:53] Well,

[01:15:53] yeah,

[01:15:54] he can explain all these complicated emotions and thoughts that she's having.

[01:15:58] I could have just called this mansplaining the movie,

[01:16:00] right?

[01:16:02] Fury realizes that Keller is a scroll and exits the elevator on a separate floor

[01:16:08] from Keller.

[01:16:09] He realizes that shield has been infiltrated by Hydra.

[01:16:15] I,

[01:16:15] sorry,

[01:16:16] a scroll,

[01:16:17] uh,

[01:16:18] passing as Keller.

[01:16:19] Keller told the other agents that fury is colluding with the target veers and

[01:16:24] that they have come to capture them dead or alive.

[01:16:28] Do we think that this movie captures the feeling of being mansplained to better than

[01:16:37] any other?

[01:16:38] For those of us who have never experienced it before?

[01:16:43] Well,

[01:16:44] Dan mansplaining is.

[01:16:49] That's the name of our new podcast.

[01:16:52] Just mansplaining,

[01:16:53] mansplaining where we explain mansplaining over and over again.

[01:16:57] It's yeah,

[01:16:57] it's a pretty good,

[01:16:58] it would be on the Mount Rushmore for sure.

[01:17:01] On Mount splain more.

[01:17:07] Bowie splaining,

[01:17:08] mansplaining.

[01:17:11] Cause I,

[01:17:12] I,

[01:17:12] it like it,

[01:17:13] I know it's a thing,

[01:17:15] right?

[01:17:15] And I,

[01:17:16] I,

[01:17:16] I,

[01:17:16] and I guess we all experienced some version of splaining,

[01:17:20] right?

[01:17:21] Um,

[01:17:22] you got like,

[01:17:22] I experienced education splaining all the time from other educators who think they

[01:17:27] know that I,

[01:17:28] or think that I don't know anything based on my,

[01:17:31] you know,

[01:17:32] my demeanor generally.

[01:17:35] Um,

[01:17:37] but in this specific sense,

[01:17:41] it like,

[01:17:41] I think you're right.

[01:17:42] Yeah.

[01:17:43] It like,

[01:17:43] it makes me,

[01:17:44] it made my skin crawl.

[01:17:45] And I was like,

[01:17:46] and I think part of it honestly is like,

[01:17:49] there's no way I haven't done that.

[01:17:52] Yeah.

[01:17:53] It's,

[01:17:53] it's kind of the thing that Barbie does where it's like,

[01:17:57] without directly calling it out,

[01:17:58] although in some ways directly calling it out,

[01:18:01] it does a really good job of explaining the thing.

[01:18:04] Yeah.

[01:18:05] Well,

[01:18:05] and making you feel it.

[01:18:06] Right.

[01:18:06] Cause it's like,

[01:18:07] cause again,

[01:18:08] I,

[01:18:08] I mean,

[01:18:09] not intentionally,

[01:18:09] but like,

[01:18:10] I'm watching this.

[01:18:10] I'm like,

[01:18:11] I have definitely been that person before.

[01:18:13] Maybe not to that extent,

[01:18:14] but like,

[01:18:16] Oh,

[01:18:17] yeah.

[01:18:18] Yeah.

[01:18:20] Uh huh.

[01:18:21] But do you think,

[01:18:22] do you,

[01:18:22] but do you think your mansplaining was like oriented?

[01:18:25] it was correct gender.

[01:18:26] Or do you think it was just like,

[01:18:27] you can mansplain Disneyland to me and be like,

[01:18:30] I,

[01:18:30] you know what I mean?

[01:18:30] Like it doesn't.

[01:18:31] Well,

[01:18:32] but that's coming from an actual place of like,

[01:18:34] Oh,

[01:18:34] I actually have some insights or experience that you may not,

[01:18:39] you know,

[01:18:39] be privy to.

[01:18:40] Um,

[01:18:41] and again,

[01:18:41] I don't want to imply that I was incorrect in the things that I was

[01:18:46] mansplaining,

[01:18:47] but.

[01:18:48] No,

[01:18:49] no,

[01:18:49] we,

[01:18:49] yeah.

[01:18:50] Yeah.

[01:18:51] Yeah.

[01:18:52] Yeah.

[01:18:54] I'm just saying,

[01:18:55] I'm sorry if it made,

[01:18:57] if you were uncomfortable.

[01:19:03] I'm sorry that you felt,

[01:19:06] I'm sorry.

[01:19:06] Yeah.

[01:19:06] Right.

[01:19:07] I'm sorry.

[01:19:08] If you chose to feel like I was mansplaining,

[01:19:12] but here's why you shouldn't be upset with me.

[01:19:16] But really,

[01:19:18] but I was right.

[01:19:18] You were the one who just didn't understand.

[01:19:21] You needed to know.

[01:19:23] It's not me.

[01:19:24] It's you.

[01:19:25] Besides,

[01:19:26] you got the promotion.

[01:19:28] Oh my God.

[01:19:29] Before we go any deeper down this well of misogyny,

[01:19:35] Keller arrives at the records room to confront fury.

[01:19:38] Keller asks,

[01:19:40] was it something I said?

[01:19:41] They fight.

[01:19:43] Fury gets worked before veers arrives to save the day.

[01:19:50] Veers and fury encounter Colson in a stairwell who lets them past.

[01:19:55] He tells her that,

[01:19:58] that he called them in.

[01:20:00] Uh,

[01:20:01] she asks for his communication.

[01:20:03] Um,

[01:20:04] when fury tells veers that he let,

[01:20:07] he called them in.

[01:20:08] She asks for his communication device because he can't be trusted with it.

[01:20:12] The duo manages to make their escape on a,

[01:20:16] you know,

[01:20:16] cargo jet,

[01:20:17] uh,

[01:20:18] which is actually a quad jet,

[01:20:20] uh,

[01:20:20] predecessor to the Quinn jet.

[01:20:22] Um,

[01:20:23] it also has the same dashboard with the same coordinates as the Quinn jet from

[01:20:28] Avengers.

[01:20:29] Uh,

[01:20:32] and,

[01:20:33] uh,

[01:20:34] they,

[01:20:34] they have the files they found on Pegasus.

[01:20:37] Pegasus and find that goose has stowed away on the plane.

[01:20:41] They set their destination to Louisiana,

[01:20:44] head to Memphis,

[01:20:45] hang left.

[01:20:46] And the home of Maria Rambo was the last person to see Lawson alive.

[01:20:53] And as well as the test pilot cue,

[01:20:56] the obnoxious that it got music.

[01:21:01] Cause that way,

[01:21:02] you know,

[01:21:02] you're in Louisiana.

[01:21:03] Just like,

[01:21:03] that's how we knew we were in the nineties.

[01:21:06] We need to have like,

[01:21:07] you know,

[01:21:08] play some,

[01:21:09] one of Beaujolais greatest hits.

[01:21:14] And they're all sucking on crawfish.

[01:21:17] How else would you know?

[01:21:19] So big.

[01:21:20] I remember that.

[01:21:21] Oh my God.

[01:21:22] Um,

[01:21:24] so when,

[01:21:25] um,

[01:21:25] so when,

[01:21:26] it was so-and-so scroll Captain America,

[01:21:28] scroll was goose is in my mind,

[01:21:30] clearly a scroll,

[01:21:31] but we'll come back to it.

[01:21:32] Um,

[01:21:33] the one thing I would kind of point out,

[01:21:34] it's,

[01:21:35] it didn't realize at the time,

[01:21:37] but Brie Larson is like deathly allergic to cats.

[01:21:40] And so,

[01:21:41] yeah.

[01:21:41] so when the scenes where,

[01:21:43] where Carol and goose are at it,

[01:21:45] um,

[01:21:46] you've got CGI stand-ins and puppet cats and editing,

[01:21:49] which makes it look real,

[01:21:51] which I found to be mind boggling.

[01:21:53] I didn't even notice it.

[01:21:54] I did notice it.

[01:21:56] And that explains it.

[01:21:57] I'm actually glad that.

[01:21:58] Cause there,

[01:21:59] there are some moments where the CG is like,

[01:22:02] um,

[01:22:03] I think that's a lady.

[01:22:08] Yeah.

[01:22:12] And there's a few moments with the cat where I was like,

[01:22:15] that wasn't,

[01:22:16] that's an odd place to have not a real cat,

[01:22:19] but that makes,

[01:22:19] that makes sense.

[01:22:20] Yeah.

[01:22:21] So we are now aboard the Kree worship.

[01:22:25] We see Yon-Rogg having a zoom call with her old voting buddy Ronan that shows up.

[01:22:31] I believe it was AOL instant messenger.

[01:22:34] Yeah.

[01:22:34] Yeah.

[01:22:36] I guess if we're going nine,

[01:22:37] yeah,

[01:22:38] if we're going 95,

[01:22:39] it'd be AIM,

[01:22:39] right?

[01:22:40] Yeah.

[01:22:40] Yeah.

[01:22:41] Um,

[01:22:42] who was last seen blown up by the power stone and guardians.

[01:22:47] So now we know,

[01:22:48] Oh,

[01:22:48] these are really the bad guys.

[01:22:51] Okay.

[01:22:52] Got it.

[01:22:52] They discussed the failed plan to kidnap beers on Torfa.

[01:22:56] Ronan asked for her location so he can take care of the quote terrorist threat,

[01:23:00] which is Carol Danvers.

[01:23:02] Yon-Rogg tells him that she is lost,

[01:23:04] but that he will find her.

[01:23:05] The zoom call ends and Yon-Rogg tells Korth to maintain the course for C five,

[01:23:10] three.

[01:23:11] So we land at Louisiana and this is really Louisiana.

[01:23:17] It's not Atlanta.

[01:23:18] It's not California.

[01:23:19] A lot of this film was filmed in California.

[01:23:21] The scene,

[01:23:22] the prior scene where they're driving through the mountain,

[01:23:25] the Hills,

[01:23:26] and they go through that long,

[01:23:28] um,

[01:23:28] uh,

[01:23:29] tunnel,

[01:23:29] if you will,

[01:23:30] that's Shaver Lake,

[01:23:31] California.

[01:23:31] And that's a real tunnel.

[01:23:32] That's not like fake effects or anything like that here.

[01:23:35] They're in Louisiana.

[01:23:36] We see Maria Rambo,

[01:23:37] who's working on some airplane parts in an outdoor garage.

[01:23:41] She has her own plane somehow.

[01:23:43] I don't know how she got it there.

[01:23:44] It's Louisiana.

[01:23:45] There's all sorts of stuff going on there.

[01:23:47] You know,

[01:23:47] that's a really good call.

[01:23:48] I should probably remember that.

[01:23:49] I forgot about that.

[01:23:49] So Justin,

[01:23:53] Auntie Carol shows up much to the surprise of Maria,

[01:23:56] uh,

[01:23:57] who is played by a British accent who did not adopt any kind of Southern draw,

[01:24:00] but we will put that aside.

[01:24:02] And in fact,

[01:24:03] I think Louisiana is like the,

[01:24:05] if Florida is like a university,

[01:24:08] Louisiana is like a junior college.

[01:24:10] Yes.

[01:24:11] Yeah.

[01:24:12] That,

[01:24:12] that,

[01:24:13] yes,

[01:24:13] I have.

[01:24:15] That's very,

[01:24:16] yes.

[01:24:21] The,

[01:24:22] uh,

[01:24:23] Carol tells them the story of quote,

[01:24:26] the craziest shit that has happened.

[01:24:28] And the alien scrolls,

[01:24:29] Carol tells Maria that she only has flashes of her memory.

[01:24:33] So Maria tells the story of what happened that fateful day and how sad and

[01:24:37] frustrated to miss her friend over the past six years.

[01:24:40] The,

[01:24:40] um,

[01:24:41] Monica shares photos of Carol over the years and other mementos and starts to

[01:24:45] kind of like,

[01:24:45] you know,

[01:24:46] this will start to,

[01:24:47] um,

[01:24:48] spur her memory in the future,

[01:24:51] including the other half of the dog tab,

[01:24:52] which reads Carol dah or Corolda.

[01:24:56] If she were,

[01:24:57] if,

[01:24:58] if the Cree had gotten that half,

[01:25:01] she'd be Corolda,

[01:25:02] Corolda,

[01:25:02] Corolda Toyota Corolda.

[01:25:04] Anyway,

[01:25:05] this,

[01:25:06] this question has been burning in me since I,

[01:25:09] that one student told me she's super gay.

[01:25:11] And then I watched it.

[01:25:13] Are,

[01:25:14] were they,

[01:25:14] are they in a relationship?

[01:25:16] I mean,

[01:25:17] not that it has,

[01:25:18] does look,

[01:25:19] I don't,

[01:25:19] doesn't change anything.

[01:25:20] I,

[01:25:21] it's just,

[01:25:21] I was just been curious.

[01:25:23] That's a,

[01:25:24] that would be an interesting,

[01:25:25] that would be an interesting storyline.

[01:25:27] There was no way they would have picked up on it or done it,

[01:25:29] but that would have been kind of,

[01:25:31] if they're making this day,

[01:25:31] might have alluded to it.

[01:25:33] Why?

[01:25:34] In,

[01:25:34] in the backstory of these characters,

[01:25:36] is that a thing or is that just something I'm reading into it?

[01:25:39] I don't think ever in the comics,

[01:25:41] it was a thing.

[01:25:42] Okay.

[01:25:43] No.

[01:25:44] Yeah.

[01:25:44] They make,

[01:25:45] cause the,

[01:25:45] the Carol Danvers characters is,

[01:25:48] I seems kind of,

[01:25:49] um,

[01:25:50] I don't want to say asexual is not quite the right word,

[01:25:52] but there's no,

[01:25:53] she reads as kind of asexual.

[01:25:55] Yeah.

[01:25:56] Okay.

[01:25:56] Um,

[01:25:58] um,

[01:25:58] and so it's certainly possible.

[01:26:00] It would have made actually for an interesting plot device.

[01:26:02] If,

[01:26:02] if like,

[01:26:03] if Maria were like completely like emotional and surprised,

[01:26:08] she,

[01:26:08] I found actually the scene to be a little bit off-putting.

[01:26:11] Cause it's like Maria is just kind of sitting there like girl,

[01:26:14] what happened?

[01:26:15] And right.

[01:26:15] And I mean,

[01:26:16] and there's no,

[01:26:17] there's no like crying.

[01:26:18] There's no like over emotion.

[01:26:20] The child actress who plays Monica seemed to be like the most amped for the

[01:26:25] role,

[01:26:25] but I don't know if it's cause she just had a bunch of sugar before her

[01:26:27] scene.

[01:26:28] Well,

[01:26:28] we'll stop probably.

[01:26:29] Of course it's the purple stuff.

[01:26:32] Um,

[01:26:33] Oh,

[01:26:33] wait a minute.

[01:26:34] Hold on.

[01:26:34] It was probably,

[01:26:35] um,

[01:26:37] fruitopia drinks.

[01:26:38] There we go.

[01:26:39] Um,

[01:26:40] the nineties,

[01:26:41] nineties reference.

[01:26:43] Or it might've been new Coke.

[01:26:44] Oh,

[01:26:44] maybe that was eighties.

[01:26:46] I already used that one.

[01:26:48] Um,

[01:26:49] no,

[01:26:49] cause the way I read it.

[01:26:50] And again,

[01:26:51] I don't know anything about these characters and I don't know if Carol

[01:26:54] Danders is even remotely gay,

[01:26:56] let alone super gay.

[01:26:57] Again,

[01:26:58] I don't care.

[01:26:59] I just went into this with that small amount of background.

[01:27:03] And I read that into the scene and it,

[01:27:06] it was interesting to me because it was like,

[01:27:10] Oh,

[01:27:10] she's so distraught that she can't even express emotion.

[01:27:14] Right.

[01:27:14] I do think,

[01:27:16] I do think,

[01:27:17] and I could be wrong,

[01:27:18] but I'm pretty sure that like for that,

[01:27:20] that she's considered like a gay icon,

[01:27:22] lesbian icon for some,

[01:27:23] right.

[01:27:23] Which might be some of the reasons also why people hated the film.

[01:27:26] Just side of the scene.

[01:27:27] Right.

[01:27:27] It would certainly be on brand for those sorts of people.

[01:27:30] Right.

[01:27:31] So,

[01:27:31] cause what's interesting is like her most notable people that I can think

[01:27:36] of in the comic books,

[01:27:37] she had a relationship with roadie for a while.

[01:27:42] Marvell,

[01:27:43] like I mentioned,

[01:27:44] she,

[01:27:44] she had a relationship with Marvell.

[01:27:49] I am not aware of a love interest in her more modern ones,

[01:27:54] which is where that would have come in.

[01:27:55] I,

[01:27:56] it's entirely possible.

[01:27:57] And again,

[01:27:58] that no,

[01:27:58] and I,

[01:27:59] I'm not,

[01:28:00] I mean this in a good sense,

[01:28:02] knowing this student that shared this thing,

[01:28:04] she could have just read this into that character.

[01:28:07] And maybe honestly,

[01:28:09] maybe that's what she was trying to communicate is like trying to get me

[01:28:14] to understand this character is important.

[01:28:18] If you take into consideration that she is a gay icon,

[01:28:22] whether or not she is super gay.

[01:28:24] Right.

[01:28:24] Yeah.

[01:28:25] Kind of the,

[01:28:25] the like Claribel cow effect.

[01:28:28] Right.

[01:28:28] Where like,

[01:28:28] right.

[01:28:29] Who is famously super gay.

[01:28:31] Yeah.

[01:28:33] But,

[01:28:34] but like without being specific,

[01:28:37] specifically outwardly gay,

[01:28:39] you know,

[01:28:40] still a very meaningful character for folks that need that.

[01:28:43] Yeah.

[01:28:44] No,

[01:28:44] I'm actually glad I went into that,

[01:28:46] into it with that idea.

[01:28:47] Cause I might not have,

[01:28:50] it might not,

[01:28:51] not have felt significant to me.

[01:28:53] And it did when I was like,

[01:28:55] Oh,

[01:28:55] this is,

[01:28:56] I guess this is important.

[01:28:57] I guess I think maybe what that student was trying to communicate is like,

[01:29:00] no,

[01:29:00] you need to understand this is important to me.

[01:29:04] Yeah.

[01:29:05] Yeah.

[01:29:06] Yeah.

[01:29:06] And so it kind of became important.

[01:29:09] So that's,

[01:29:10] I like those things.

[01:29:11] Yeah.

[01:29:14] Uh,

[01:29:14] so at this time,

[01:29:16] a neighbor knocks on the door,

[01:29:17] Tom,

[01:29:18] who's seems kind of suspicious and asking to bring his sons by to look at the

[01:29:22] aircraft park.

[01:29:23] Tom Bayou,

[01:29:24] Tom,

[01:29:25] Bayou,

[01:29:26] Tom.

[01:29:32] Carol suspects he's a scroll named Talos and Maria suggests that Tom come

[01:29:36] back later when they turn around.

[01:29:38] Boom.

[01:29:39] There he is.

[01:29:40] Talos in his natural form,

[01:29:42] standing in the hallway,

[01:29:43] drinking a milkshake,

[01:29:45] shades of,

[01:29:46] um,

[01:29:47] the same cup.

[01:29:48] Yeah.

[01:29:49] Yeah.

[01:29:50] Pulp fiction or,

[01:29:51] um,

[01:29:51] the earlier,

[01:29:52] Oh,

[01:29:52] what's the one with all the,

[01:29:54] the people had like Mr.

[01:29:56] Pink,

[01:29:56] Mr.

[01:29:57] Black.

[01:29:57] What was that?

[01:29:59] yeah.

[01:30:01] Uh,

[01:30:02] he,

[01:30:02] he was like,

[01:30:03] you know,

[01:30:03] you should be,

[01:30:04] you really,

[01:30:05] you know,

[01:30:05] you really should be conned to your neighbors.

[01:30:07] That sounds awful.

[01:30:09] Anyway,

[01:30:09] I almost had it and lost the end.

[01:30:10] You almost went Creole.

[01:30:11] I got looking to buy a hill.

[01:30:15] Okay.

[01:30:16] I'll make a name for myself.

[01:30:18] Um,

[01:30:19] Creole.

[01:30:21] Screeal.

[01:30:23] Screeal.

[01:30:27] The crawfish is boiling.

[01:30:29] Now I'm going to give you more about the plot.

[01:30:32] Hold on a second.

[01:30:33] Let me explain what happens here with the technical machine parts you're working on outside.

[01:30:38] It was a,

[01:30:38] let me just,

[01:30:40] let me just sip on this,

[01:30:43] jar of Tabasco sauce here.

[01:30:48] It's off a crawfish.

[01:30:51] Gonna make this new dish out of bugs.

[01:30:53] Cause that's what we do.

[01:30:55] Here in the bayou.

[01:31:05] Down by.

[01:31:07] You want some karma?

[01:31:18] It's clobbering.

[01:31:19] Oh God.

[01:31:28] Um,

[01:31:31] so he makes a comment about inviter to eat his shrimp at touffe.

[01:31:35] He made from scratch.

[01:31:36] And they just like water bugs.

[01:31:46] I can hold out the gum.

[01:31:47] I can hold out the.

[01:31:51] If the sausage is too spicy,

[01:31:53] I can use a milder anyway.

[01:31:54] It's fine.

[01:31:58] So he just.

[01:31:59] Grab whatever was in the cat's mouth and put it in a pot.

[01:32:10] Who here?

[01:32:10] Who here doesn't like the new Tiana's restaurant ride.

[01:32:13] Oh God.

[01:32:19] It was better when it was song of the South.

[01:32:21] Don't we all agree?

[01:32:22] Me,

[01:32:23] I'm torn.

[01:32:24] It speaks to me in some ways,

[01:32:26] but in other ways it don't.

[01:32:29] Well,

[01:32:30] I enjoy riding on the non-racist sandwich ship Columbia.

[01:32:36] I just don't know why they let everyone ride it.

[01:32:41] Anyway.

[01:32:42] So Talos.

[01:32:46] So Talos,

[01:32:47] who I think was actually probably the funniest person in the movie,

[01:32:49] to be honest.

[01:32:51] I enjoy his character a lot.

[01:32:53] I would watch it again for him.

[01:32:55] I agree.

[01:32:55] I agree.

[01:32:56] He says,

[01:32:57] he says,

[01:32:58] hold on a second before you go swinging those jazz hands around,

[01:33:01] making a mess of my friend's home.

[01:33:03] And it's,

[01:33:03] and it's a lovely home.

[01:33:04] Um,

[01:33:07] uh,

[01:33:07] so.

[01:33:09] Fury's got his gun drawn.

[01:33:11] Speaking of jazz.

[01:33:20] Let me get my clarinet out.

[01:33:23] Oh my God.

[01:33:25] Almost made a terrible Al Jolson joke.

[01:33:27] Anyway.

[01:33:27] So,

[01:33:28] so Carol's got,

[01:33:30] Carol's got her,

[01:33:31] her hands are glowing.

[01:33:31] They're ready to attack.

[01:33:32] Before they can do anything.

[01:33:34] They look outside and they see a scroll impersonating Monica with the child,

[01:33:40] Maria.

[01:33:41] And so,

[01:33:42] um,

[01:33:43] which led me to this weird,

[01:33:45] like question.

[01:33:47] Can that scroll?

[01:33:50] Can that,

[01:33:50] can the scroll who's imitating Maria outside?

[01:33:53] Can she use racial epitaphs or not?

[01:33:56] Like,

[01:33:57] I mean,

[01:33:58] I don't think so,

[01:33:59] but it's kind of like,

[01:34:01] anyway,

[01:34:02] is it racist?

[01:34:03] If she did,

[01:34:03] if it did anyway.

[01:34:05] So Talos tries to diffuse the situation.

[01:34:07] He's like,

[01:34:08] no one's going to hurt the girl.

[01:34:09] Just don't.

[01:34:10] God,

[01:34:10] just don't.

[01:34:10] I'm just gonna do it in regular.

[01:34:12] Just don't kill me.

[01:34:12] That really complicate the situation.

[01:34:15] He's like,

[01:34:15] I'm about five seconds from complicating that wall with that.

[01:34:18] Some ugly ass scroll brains.

[01:34:21] I'm sorry.

[01:34:22] I assumed your boss,

[01:34:22] but now I stand before you as my true self without deception.

[01:34:25] And who's out there.

[01:34:28] Okay.

[01:34:28] That's a fair point,

[01:34:29] but I'm sure you understand.

[01:34:30] I had to take some precautions.

[01:34:32] Um,

[01:34:33] so Talos tells Carol that she's different from the other Kree.

[01:34:37] And this is when he starts to break it down.

[01:34:38] He just wants to talk.

[01:34:39] He tells her that he has the recording of Carol's voice from

[01:34:42] pregasus from the day that plane crashed.

[01:34:45] Maria says that she was told that the black box was destroyed and asked how he got it.

[01:34:51] He says,

[01:34:52] young lady.

[01:34:53] Go ahead.

[01:34:53] Doesn't this kind of go counter to the previous scene where they're trying to dig into her memories?

[01:34:59] Or did,

[01:35:00] or maybe did they find it after they dug?

[01:35:04] So what,

[01:35:04] what's going to,

[01:35:05] what,

[01:35:05] what it's going to conflict within a second is like Maria,

[01:35:09] whom I believe to be a scroll in the movie the whole time,

[01:35:12] um,

[01:35:12] says,

[01:35:13] you mean,

[01:35:13] she'd,

[01:35:13] I didn't know what happened to you.

[01:35:14] They covered it up for six years.

[01:35:15] And yet we'll,

[01:35:17] we see in a couple of scenes,

[01:35:18] like Carol's like radio wing tour.

[01:35:20] We crash landed.

[01:35:21] I'm okay.

[01:35:22] Dr.

[01:35:22] Lawson's killed.

[01:35:24] interesting.

[01:35:25] Okay.

[01:35:25] Yeah.

[01:35:25] Maria clear skull scroll says,

[01:35:28] young lady.

[01:35:29] I have a special skill that allows me to get into places.

[01:35:31] I'm not supposed to be.

[01:35:33] He said,

[01:35:33] call me a young lady again.

[01:35:34] I'm put my foot in a place where it's not supposed to be.

[01:35:37] Uh,

[01:35:38] am I supposed to guess where that is?

[01:35:40] And then Carol fears.

[01:35:42] It's him.

[01:35:42] Your ass.

[01:35:43] Scrolls don't have,

[01:35:44] but let me explain how our digestive system works.

[01:35:54] And I don't know.

[01:35:55] I don't know if like in Louisiana,

[01:35:56] young lady is a racial epitaphs or not.

[01:35:58] She seemed to take quite a bit of fence to it,

[01:36:00] but it's more of a sexist comment.

[01:36:02] I think so.

[01:36:04] I,

[01:36:04] I,

[01:36:05] I,

[01:36:05] yeah.

[01:36:06] Uh,

[01:36:07] okay.

[01:36:07] Okay.

[01:36:08] I get,

[01:36:08] we're all on the edge here.

[01:36:10] Hold on.

[01:36:11] Calm your situation down.

[01:36:13] And now it sounds like he's foghorn leghorn.

[01:36:14] Anyway.

[01:36:15] All right.

[01:36:15] So I'll see.

[01:36:18] Um,

[01:36:21] I say,

[01:36:24] I would again like to apologize to everyone for,

[01:36:29] but this has been our impromptu hour of nonsense voice deluxe.

[01:36:33] Anyway.

[01:36:33] So I say,

[01:36:34] I say none of us better say the word.

[01:36:37] Those,

[01:36:37] those rings there.

[01:36:42] Yeah.

[01:36:42] The bands are coming back out.

[01:36:43] The band.

[01:36:47] Jesus Christ.

[01:36:48] I,

[01:36:48] I'm not even,

[01:36:49] I can't.

[01:36:49] I'm no,

[01:36:50] we are at the line.

[01:36:54] So,

[01:36:55] tells,

[01:36:55] tries to calm situation as I am now,

[01:36:57] as I am personally doing.

[01:36:58] And Carol agrees to listen to him.

[01:37:00] If the outside scroll and Maria come back inside.

[01:37:02] Cool.

[01:37:03] Scroll.

[01:37:04] Maria changes shape as she arrives.

[01:37:06] And this was,

[01:37:06] I think the first we see of it.

[01:37:08] And it's pretty well done.

[01:37:09] It's not like Hulk,

[01:37:11] you know,

[01:37:12] um,

[01:37:13] uh,

[01:37:13] what's the name?

[01:37:13] And we're turning into the whole kind of like bad CGI.

[01:37:16] It looks pretty good.

[01:37:17] Uh,

[01:37:18] just then goose,

[01:37:19] the flerking arrives,

[01:37:21] freaks out.

[01:37:21] Talos.

[01:37:22] Also,

[01:37:22] they don't imply that if Edward Norton turns into the Hulk,

[01:37:26] his dick is going to be way too big for Liv Tyler.

[01:37:31] As they do in that movie.

[01:37:34] Hulk smash.

[01:37:36] It's clobbering.

[01:37:38] It's clobbering.

[01:37:39] He says his favorite one.

[01:37:42] It's clobbering time.

[01:37:55] I'm sorry.

[01:37:56] Regular listeners.

[01:37:57] I don't know that these shows usually like this.

[01:38:00] I suspect it's not.

[01:38:04] It's close.

[01:38:05] Okay.

[01:38:05] You just heighten it.

[01:38:06] You should have been on black Panther with us.

[01:38:08] That would might've taken.

[01:38:09] Oh God.

[01:38:10] Uh,

[01:38:11] so,

[01:38:11] uh,

[01:38:11] flerking arrives,

[01:38:12] freaks out.

[01:38:12] Talos causes Fury to laugh because he thinks it's just a cat.

[01:38:16] They go into Maria's office and pop a disc into the old CD ROM to play the recording.

[01:38:22] You hear the,

[01:38:23] the,

[01:38:23] you know,

[01:38:23] the,

[01:38:23] you hear the modem fire.

[01:38:25] Uh,

[01:38:29] and then we hear Lawson asking Carol to plug in the coordinates to Dr.

[01:38:33] Lawson's lab.

[01:38:34] Those coordinates are five,

[01:38:35] two,

[01:38:35] two,

[01:38:36] nine negative four,

[01:38:36] seven,

[01:38:37] eight,

[01:38:37] seven,

[01:38:37] six,

[01:38:37] eight,

[01:38:38] two.

[01:38:40] I'll remember that for future trivia.

[01:38:41] Uh,

[01:38:43] and we see a flashback scene of Carol flying the plane near space.

[01:38:46] All of a sudden they're under attack by an enemy.

[01:38:49] Who's not flying a normal airplane,

[01:38:52] some spacecraft.

[01:38:54] They're playing a shot down.

[01:38:55] We get that same familiar plane crash scene.

[01:38:57] We've seen three,

[01:38:58] two or three times already.

[01:39:00] The plane makes a crash landing,

[01:39:02] but the energy core is still intact.

[01:39:05] Monica radios to Maria that they crashed,

[01:39:07] but that she's okay.

[01:39:08] So I don't know what Maria is like.

[01:39:10] I didn't,

[01:39:10] I thought the black box was destroyed,

[01:39:12] which made me think that she was on the coverup.

[01:39:14] Anyway,

[01:39:15] conspiracy theory aside,

[01:39:17] Lawson,

[01:39:18] the other hand is not doing too well.

[01:39:19] She is bleeding blue blood and she tells Carol that her real name is Marvell and that she's from a planet called Hala.

[01:39:27] Hala.

[01:39:28] Hala.

[01:39:29] Hey,

[01:39:30] no stopping me.

[01:39:32] Get your freak on.

[01:39:33] Before Marvell can destroy the energy core from her plane,

[01:39:37] she is shot and killed by a mysterious figure.

[01:39:41] And it's that figure yet,

[01:39:42] the closer we see that it's Yon-Rogg.

[01:39:43] And before he can kill Carol,

[01:39:45] she carries out Lawson's wish and shoots at the plane's energy core with the laser gun.

[01:39:51] This destroys the power code core and unleashes a huge energy blast,

[01:39:55] which envelops Carol.

[01:39:57] Yon-Rogg picks up the veers part of the dog tag and realized that Carol absorbed energy blast,

[01:40:02] which gives her the Captain Marvel powers.

[01:40:05] Change of plan.

[01:40:06] He is going to take her with them so they can study her rather than kill her off.

[01:40:11] One thing I just want to say,

[01:40:12] if you looked at the,

[01:40:15] I think this is the third iteration we see.

[01:40:17] The first one,

[01:40:18] you don't see any person or creature approaching.

[01:40:21] And the second one,

[01:40:21] you see a scroll approaching.

[01:40:22] And this one,

[01:40:23] it's really Yon-Rogg.

[01:40:24] So her,

[01:40:24] you know,

[01:40:25] years and years of training.

[01:40:26] Don't,

[01:40:26] don't,

[01:40:26] you know,

[01:40:27] don't think about your memories.

[01:40:28] Don't go there.

[01:40:28] Don't,

[01:40:29] you know,

[01:40:29] don't give me your emotions.

[01:40:30] In that second one,

[01:40:31] in the director of commentary,

[01:40:34] if you watch it and you pause it right second,

[01:40:36] as the scroll comes closer,

[01:40:38] you can see the ears go to like human ears,

[01:40:40] almost like suggesting,

[01:40:41] that's not the person you're going to see at minute one 11 of the movie.

[01:40:45] Huh?

[01:40:46] Interesting.

[01:40:48] So yeah,

[01:40:48] back,

[01:40:49] back in Louisiana,

[01:40:51] Carol is upset to learn that everything she had believed was a lie.

[01:40:56] Talos tells her that Yon-Rogg.

[01:41:00] Tells her that Yon-Rogg killed Mar-Vell because she realized what was going,

[01:41:06] or that she was on the wrong side of an unjust war.

[01:41:09] Also familiar feeling.

[01:41:11] Yeah.

[01:41:12] The scrolls that need,

[01:41:14] the scrolls need that energy core to power a light speed ship to help them get away from the Kree.

[01:41:22] Uh,

[01:41:23] they found that Carol,

[01:41:27] or they found Carol because her energy signal matched Mar-Vell's core.

[01:41:32] It turns out that the core wasn't destroyed by Carol and that the coordinates,

[01:41:37] which Lawson gave her earlier,

[01:41:38] take them to her lab where the energy core is.

[01:41:42] But where is the lab?

[01:41:43] Carol tells them that the coordinates are actually state vectors,

[01:41:47] duh,

[01:41:48] which point to a very specific location and time in orbit.

[01:41:53] I do like,

[01:41:54] I do like the thing.

[01:41:55] He's like,

[01:41:56] come on,

[01:41:57] man,

[01:41:57] you're supposed to be my science guy.

[01:41:58] He's just kind of started.

[01:42:01] Yeah,

[01:42:01] no,

[01:42:02] that is good.

[01:42:04] Nora,

[01:42:05] Nora X,

[01:42:06] the science guy makes amends and tells them that with a few tweaks,

[01:42:10] their vessel should do it.

[01:42:11] And I,

[01:42:12] can handle the modifications.

[01:42:14] Classic tech nerd stuff.

[01:42:15] I also like that.

[01:42:16] They gave him like a nerd speech.

[01:42:18] Like,

[01:42:19] so a few tweaks to your vessel should do it.

[01:42:21] I can make like,

[01:42:21] they actually made that part of the character,

[01:42:23] which is wild.

[01:42:26] That is.

[01:42:26] I,

[01:42:27] I like a lot of how they handle that kind of stuff.

[01:42:29] It's just like,

[01:42:29] yeah,

[01:42:30] these are just,

[01:42:30] this is just how it would work.

[01:42:32] If you,

[01:42:32] if you didn't know that they were a nerd scrawl,

[01:42:35] you will now,

[01:42:36] by the way in which they speak.

[01:42:38] Right.

[01:42:40] So Maria is doubtful about the,

[01:42:41] and Maria says,

[01:42:42] your plan is to leave atmosphere in a craft,

[01:42:44] not designed for the journey.

[01:42:46] And you anticipate hostile encounters with a technology,

[01:42:49] technologically superior for an enemy.

[01:42:51] Correct.

[01:42:51] Yep.

[01:42:52] Want to come?

[01:42:53] I'm out.

[01:42:55] Monica says,

[01:42:56] that's what I'm saying.

[01:42:57] You have to go.

[01:42:59] Uh,

[01:43:00] you have the chance to fly the coolest mission in the history of missions.

[01:43:04] And you're going to give up and sit on the couch and just watch French Prince,

[01:43:08] fresh Prince with me.

[01:43:10] I remember that.

[01:43:11] You know what else I remember?

[01:43:13] No fear.

[01:43:13] T-shirts.

[01:43:14] Remember that?

[01:43:14] Oh,

[01:43:16] I'm surprised that didn't like a no fear shirt.

[01:43:19] Didn't show up at any point.

[01:43:21] Instead,

[01:43:23] Carol just cycles through band t-shirts,

[01:43:25] like nine inch nails and heart.

[01:43:28] And then if,

[01:43:29] if we see big dog t-shirts,

[01:43:30] we know it's the early two thousands.

[01:43:33] Yeah.

[01:43:34] Yep.

[01:43:35] Let me,

[01:43:36] one day on the porch.

[01:43:39] Yeah.

[01:43:40] I'm surprised.

[01:43:40] Like the cars,

[01:43:42] you know,

[01:43:42] like a pissing Calvin sticker.

[01:43:44] Why not?

[01:43:44] Right.

[01:43:47] Um,

[01:43:50] and then Monica says to Maria,

[01:43:52] just think of,

[01:43:53] I just think you should consider what kind of example you're setting for your

[01:43:57] daughter.

[01:43:57] Okay.

[01:43:58] Maria is a 500% of scroll at this point in time.

[01:44:01] Cause that little kid is getting sassy.

[01:44:03] And I'm telling you any Southern mom,

[01:44:05] and this is not ethnicity specific with backhand,

[01:44:09] backhand that kid.

[01:44:10] Like you better watch your mouth girl.

[01:44:13] Like,

[01:44:14] but yeah,

[01:44:15] this is now who's I,

[01:44:16] I,

[01:44:17] I Ryan,

[01:44:18] I want you to rank.

[01:44:20] Plucky by pluckiness,

[01:44:22] Monica.

[01:44:24] Harley Keener.

[01:44:27] Um,

[01:44:28] what's the other kid's name?

[01:44:30] And Cassie Lang.

[01:44:31] Yeah.

[01:44:33] Um,

[01:44:35] I would have to say most plucky is probably Cassie.

[01:44:39] When she asked to be a,

[01:44:40] a co-superhero or partner.

[01:44:42] Yeah.

[01:44:43] That's pretty plucky.

[01:44:44] Second is Harley.

[01:44:46] Third is Monica.

[01:44:48] Okay.

[01:44:50] But Maria,

[01:44:51] I'm just going to agree.

[01:44:52] Cause I don't know the other ones.

[01:44:56] If so,

[01:44:57] so,

[01:44:58] you know,

[01:44:58] just to,

[01:44:59] to add a little bit more pluck to Monica's character,

[01:45:01] Carol asks her to design the new character or the new colors for her

[01:45:05] costume.

[01:45:06] Oh,

[01:45:06] Oh,

[01:45:07] this,

[01:45:07] this,

[01:45:08] this scene didn't need to happen.

[01:45:10] This is,

[01:45:11] it's simultaneously.

[01:45:12] So I think it's one of those ones.

[01:45:14] It's like,

[01:45:15] it's lost on normies a little bit.

[01:45:17] Cause the first color that pops up is the red and yellow,

[01:45:20] which is likely a reference to captain Marvel.

[01:45:24] The DC hero.

[01:45:27] That's his colors.

[01:45:29] Black and gold are Carol Danvers,

[01:45:32] Ms.

[01:45:32] Marvel suit.

[01:45:34] The neon one is a really cool suit,

[01:45:38] but also it very much is an aesthetic I appreciate,

[01:45:41] but also does not mean anything.

[01:45:45] And then the white and green,

[01:45:46] which is the last one they land on before going over to the air force

[01:45:51] t-shirt,

[01:45:53] red,

[01:45:53] white,

[01:45:53] and gold.

[01:45:55] Um,

[01:45:56] the white and green is a nod to captain Marvel's original design.

[01:46:01] Um,

[01:46:02] it,

[01:46:02] it,

[01:46:02] it felt a little bit too much like,

[01:46:05] and I'm going to borrow from a patent Oswald joke.

[01:46:08] Like the,

[01:46:10] the scene,

[01:46:11] like the,

[01:46:11] we don't need to know how they installed the toilets and the death star.

[01:46:15] Like,

[01:46:16] yeah,

[01:46:16] like that kind of level where it's just like,

[01:46:20] yeah,

[01:46:21] it's just could have been a DVD extra.

[01:46:23] Yeah.

[01:46:23] You know?

[01:46:24] Yeah.

[01:46:24] That's fair.

[01:46:25] I also think,

[01:46:25] um,

[01:46:26] I,

[01:46:26] as a comic nerd and,

[01:46:28] you know,

[01:46:28] looked these up and I watched it a few times and like,

[01:46:31] I don't really see the distinct color.

[01:46:34] Maybe because my TV screen was like,

[01:46:36] or I was on a plane.

[01:46:37] It was hard to see,

[01:46:37] but like,

[01:46:38] didn't quite capture for me.

[01:46:39] And I,

[01:46:39] so I agree with you,

[01:46:40] Dan.

[01:46:40] It's kind of like,

[01:46:41] there's kind of an unnecessary scene.

[01:46:43] I think it's,

[01:46:43] I think it's more like,

[01:46:44] I understand why you film it,

[01:46:46] but I don't understand why it makes it through editing.

[01:46:49] That's fair.

[01:46:50] That's fair.

[01:46:52] I also think the,

[01:46:53] the like final piece where they're like,

[01:46:56] look at the shirt and I'm going to match your shirt.

[01:46:58] I think that maybe is,

[01:47:00] it's like,

[01:47:01] ah,

[01:47:01] come on.

[01:47:02] Yeah.

[01:47:02] It kind of bothered me too,

[01:47:03] because it was just like,

[01:47:04] I want you to do something to help me design the colors.

[01:47:07] And it's like,

[01:47:07] no stupid,

[01:47:08] make it like that.

[01:47:09] Yeah.

[01:47:10] Yeah.

[01:47:11] You dumb child.

[01:47:14] So if she'd asked,

[01:47:15] let me ask you this.

[01:47:16] If she had asked JR from game night,

[01:47:18] what,

[01:47:18] what colors to,

[01:47:19] are we just getting the grimace outfit?

[01:47:21] Or did it just get him grimace?

[01:47:22] Yeah.

[01:47:22] Yeah.

[01:47:23] I like it.

[01:47:24] Anyway.

[01:47:26] Yon-Rogg finally arrives and confronts veers.

[01:47:29] Uh,

[01:47:30] after a few questions,

[01:47:31] he realizes that it's actually a scroll design or disguised as Danvers.

[01:47:37] So he shoots her.

[01:47:38] Uh,

[01:47:39] he leaves and he realizes that veers,

[01:47:42] knows the truth and contacts Ronan to tell him bomb away.

[01:47:47] Bomb,

[01:47:47] baby,

[01:47:47] bomb.

[01:47:49] Um,

[01:47:54] meanwhile,

[01:47:55] uh,

[01:47:56] group,

[01:47:56] the group of Carol,

[01:47:58] Maria,

[01:47:59] fury,

[01:47:59] Talos,

[01:48:00] and goose are making their way to space.

[01:48:02] They discussed Talos's ability to change his appearance.

[01:48:05] And they ask him if he can turn into different things like a cat or a filing cabinet.

[01:48:11] Well,

[01:48:11] and I love,

[01:48:12] he's like,

[01:48:12] what's a cat,

[01:48:14] but he knows what a filing cabinet is somehow.

[01:48:18] Right.

[01:48:18] Or a Venus fly trap.

[01:48:19] I give you $50.

[01:48:22] And I love his response to the filing cabinet.

[01:48:25] It's like,

[01:48:25] why would I do that?

[01:48:31] Yeah.

[01:48:32] Uh,

[01:48:32] it's rare for Marvel,

[01:48:35] at least in this era,

[01:48:37] Marvel playing it for jokes scenes to be that good.

[01:48:41] Yeah.

[01:48:41] And this totally worked.

[01:48:44] And then usually during this era of what's that?

[01:48:47] I think it's Ben Mendelsohn who like plays it so well,

[01:48:50] who played Talos.

[01:48:52] Like that.

[01:48:53] Yeah.

[01:48:53] That makes sense.

[01:48:54] Yeah.

[01:48:54] The other,

[01:48:55] he's a really underrated actor.

[01:48:57] I think.

[01:48:58] I agree.

[01:48:59] He's really good.

[01:49:00] The other thing,

[01:49:00] um,

[01:49:01] which you don't really think about because it's,

[01:49:02] you know,

[01:49:03] we talked a little bit about like the de-aging technology,

[01:49:05] which looks really good.

[01:49:06] The facial prosthetics they put on him where you could see,

[01:49:10] like he can make the facial motions.

[01:49:12] He can make,

[01:49:12] if you made this like 10 years ago,

[01:49:14] it'd just be like wearing a mask.

[01:49:15] Like it would be completely unable to like convey.

[01:49:17] And so to your point,

[01:49:18] like the humor comes off really well.

[01:49:21] Yeah.

[01:49:22] And in,

[01:49:23] in that era too,

[01:49:24] like I think Dr.

[01:49:25] Strange was before this,

[01:49:27] right?

[01:49:27] Yeah.

[01:49:27] Yeah.

[01:49:28] I remember watching Dr.

[01:49:29] Strange and that,

[01:49:30] the,

[01:49:31] that like needing to inject,

[01:49:33] inject that kind of humor constantly ruined it entirely for me.

[01:49:38] But it's like,

[01:49:40] Oh,

[01:49:40] it's back.

[01:49:41] And it works.

[01:49:42] Cool.

[01:49:42] Yeah.

[01:49:43] It can actually work.

[01:49:45] Right.

[01:49:46] Um,

[01:49:48] so Carol hits the boosters.

[01:49:50] We get successfully out,

[01:49:52] uh,

[01:49:52] into orbit and we discover Marvell's laboratory aboard the,

[01:49:57] I do wait real quick though.

[01:49:59] I do like furious life.

[01:50:00] This is one of the other things that cracked me up.

[01:50:02] He was like,

[01:50:02] is this like normal space turbulence?

[01:50:04] And Talos is like,

[01:50:05] no,

[01:50:06] it's not.

[01:50:10] So aboard the Kree Imperial cruiser,

[01:50:13] the group make two surprising discoveries.

[01:50:15] First,

[01:50:15] they discover that the Tesseract has been used as the power source,

[01:50:19] uh,

[01:50:19] for the energy core.

[01:50:21] Second,

[01:50:21] they discover that the high score on the space invaders game.

[01:50:28] Second,

[01:50:28] they discover that a large group of school scroll refugees are living on the

[01:50:34] ship.

[01:50:34] To this point,

[01:50:35] Talos is reunited,

[01:50:37] uh,

[01:50:38] with his wife and daughter for the first time in six years.

[01:50:42] That daughter totally won't come back in a gloriously fantastic TV series.

[01:50:48] Oh,

[01:50:49] in which she gets all the powers of the Marvel universe,

[01:50:51] including the baby arm.

[01:50:53] Yeah.

[01:50:54] Right.

[01:50:54] Yeah.

[01:50:58] Unfortunately,

[01:50:59] the Kree are,

[01:51:00] are not far behind.

[01:51:02] Yon-Rogg deactivates Carol's powers via the implanted chip on her neck and

[01:51:07] captures and retrieves the Tesseract.

[01:51:10] That chip thing comes out of nowhere at this point,

[01:51:14] right?

[01:51:14] There's,

[01:51:14] there's no hints that I can remember.

[01:51:16] Actually,

[01:51:17] if you very beginning of the movie,

[01:51:18] it's a good question.

[01:51:19] At the very beginning of the movie,

[01:51:20] when she first meets Yon-Rogg and I only,

[01:51:22] again,

[01:51:22] I only noticed it because I've had to watch this stupid thing a bunch of

[01:51:25] times is you could see a glowing chip on her neck as she's like doing that

[01:51:29] late night knock on the door kind of thing.

[01:51:31] Right.

[01:51:31] Yeah.

[01:51:31] And he,

[01:51:32] he,

[01:51:32] cause it,

[01:51:33] it's what he alludes to when he says what's given can be taken away.

[01:51:36] Right.

[01:51:37] I,

[01:51:38] I,

[01:51:38] I,

[01:51:38] I,

[01:51:39] I don't hate that.

[01:51:41] It's there.

[01:51:41] I just wish that they would have like,

[01:51:43] it's maybe at some point when she tries to use her power too much or something,

[01:51:48] it just kind of goes out or,

[01:51:49] you know,

[01:51:50] something.

[01:51:50] Yeah.

[01:51:51] Or to remind you,

[01:51:52] just like they reminded you it's the nineties.

[01:51:54] Right.

[01:51:55] Yeah.

[01:51:55] Or this chip was implanted in order to help you to control your blah,

[01:51:58] blah,

[01:51:59] blah,

[01:51:59] blah,

[01:51:59] blah.

[01:51:59] Right.

[01:51:59] Like something at the very beginning,

[01:52:02] checkoffs implant inhibitor chip.

[01:52:04] And just for,

[01:52:05] for fans who have been tray tracing where the Tesseract is throughout the MCU,

[01:52:10] we obviously saw it in,

[01:52:12] um,

[01:52:14] Captain America first Avenger way back in world war two,

[01:52:17] catch up to it here in the nineties from here,

[01:52:21] it will show up next in Avengers from there.

[01:52:25] It will show up next in Thor Ragnarok.

[01:52:28] And then from there,

[01:52:30] it'll show up in infinity war.

[01:52:32] Chronologically speaking,

[01:52:33] that's kind of where it's jumped along.

[01:52:35] Good old space stone.

[01:52:37] And maybe there's also a point in the movie where Carol could have like,

[01:52:41] like tried to use the power and how's that?

[01:52:44] Well,

[01:52:44] like kind of like buzzy pain sensation.

[01:52:47] She's like,

[01:52:47] yeah,

[01:52:48] you know,

[01:52:48] it's like those tamper for tamper proof plastic things.

[01:52:51] They put over VHS tapes.

[01:52:53] When you rent them,

[01:52:56] how many of our 90 are we through?

[01:52:58] Hold on.

[01:52:59] 90 reminders.

[01:53:00] We're not even close.

[01:53:03] I'll tell you here.

[01:53:04] I'll start just really doubling down on this.

[01:53:08] Great.

[01:53:09] Okay.

[01:53:10] Yon-Rogg forces veers to interface with the Supreme intelligence to force her back into compliance.

[01:53:17] Nirvana's come as you are starts to play on a record.

[01:53:20] I hate this so much.

[01:53:23] The subtitles caption.

[01:53:26] This is upbeat music starts playing.

[01:53:28] Well,

[01:53:29] I mean,

[01:53:29] it does have drums.

[01:53:32] This is the worst,

[01:53:36] the absolute worst acted part by what's her face.

[01:53:42] The Larson.

[01:53:44] And that Benning.

[01:53:44] No.

[01:53:45] Yeah.

[01:53:46] Cause she just plays it as like the,

[01:53:49] and not in a good fun way.

[01:53:51] Like the I'm your sassy Zend up aunt.

[01:53:55] Ooh,

[01:53:55] look at me.

[01:53:56] I got a leather jacket.

[01:53:57] Yeah.

[01:53:58] I just love this music.

[01:54:00] It's like,

[01:54:01] Oh no,

[01:54:03] no.

[01:54:04] This is way better than this article music we get.

[01:54:07] Yeah.

[01:54:09] It was pretty.

[01:54:10] It pretty much took me out.

[01:54:11] I mean,

[01:54:11] it's not.

[01:54:13] We could think of other songs have been better.

[01:54:16] Yeah.

[01:54:16] It wasn't great.

[01:54:17] I don't know.

[01:54:18] A little no diggity by black street.

[01:54:20] Anyone?

[01:54:20] I'm just kidding.

[01:54:22] I mean,

[01:54:23] she,

[01:54:23] she didn't have any,

[01:54:24] she didn't have slap bracelets.

[01:54:26] Okay.

[01:54:30] She,

[01:54:30] okay.

[01:54:30] She kind of has the Rachel haircut.

[01:54:33] That's another one.

[01:54:34] A little bit.

[01:54:34] We got,

[01:54:36] I think we're good for now.

[01:54:37] Okay.

[01:54:37] Oh,

[01:54:37] she should have,

[01:54:38] she could have been eating a McDonald's Mc pizza.

[01:54:41] There we go.

[01:54:41] That's three.

[01:54:42] I don't remember that,

[01:54:44] but it was this point in time in the movie.

[01:54:46] I had to keep reminding myself,

[01:54:47] this is the Supreme intelligence.

[01:54:48] It's not Marvell,

[01:54:50] which was,

[01:54:50] again,

[01:54:50] I think for a lot of people,

[01:54:52] really confusing.

[01:54:52] So on the ship,

[01:54:55] the Kree are assessing the threat levels,

[01:54:56] pick up,

[01:54:57] you know,

[01:54:57] Flerken.

[01:54:58] Hi.

[01:54:58] They do a scanner on Fury,

[01:55:00] human male,

[01:55:01] load or none.

[01:55:02] He was like,

[01:55:03] they must be broken.

[01:55:04] Uh,

[01:55:05] they put a muzzle on goose to which Furious says it's a cat,

[01:55:08] not Hannibal Lecter.

[01:55:09] And then,

[01:55:09] uh,

[01:55:10] I get that reference.

[01:55:11] Do you?

[01:55:12] There you go.

[01:55:12] Uh,

[01:55:13] and then Minerva,

[01:55:13] very admirable person.

[01:55:16] Honorable.

[01:55:17] Oh,

[01:55:18] the honorable Hannibal Lecter.

[01:55:20] Oh,

[01:55:21] our,

[01:55:21] our next surgeon general.

[01:55:29] Now,

[01:55:30] now I'm just going to,

[01:55:30] now I'm just going to think of like fictional movie characters as members of a cabinet.

[01:55:35] Right.

[01:55:35] Just the whole time.

[01:55:37] Judge doom's going to be.

[01:55:39] Judge doom's on us.

[01:55:40] Easily Supreme court.

[01:55:44] Oh,

[01:55:53] so good.

[01:55:54] So good.

[01:55:55] Post election.

[01:55:56] Post election.

[01:55:56] I'm sorry.

[01:55:57] Or,

[01:55:58] or,

[01:55:58] Hey,

[01:55:58] we did it.

[01:56:02] She,

[01:56:03] yeah,

[01:56:04] we'll say fingers crossed.

[01:56:05] Uh,

[01:56:06] Minerva orders them to put the flerken onto their ship and eject the others into space.

[01:56:10] Allah guardians of the galaxy.

[01:56:13] Two is it when they put the shoot them into space,

[01:56:15] right?

[01:56:16] Yeah.

[01:56:18] So here we learned the Supreme intelligence didn't give Danvers her powers.

[01:56:22] Guess what?

[01:56:23] She actually,

[01:56:24] they actually suppress them and they stole her from her family and friends.

[01:56:28] Carol's angry and tries to stop the Supreme intelligence.

[01:56:31] I would,

[01:56:32] I would kind of pause you for a second,

[01:56:33] but in like the earlier flashback scenes,

[01:56:35] her dad seems kind of like a dick.

[01:56:36] So I'm not sure why she misses her family,

[01:56:37] but we'll put that aside.

[01:56:38] And then she's,

[01:56:40] then Supreme intelligence mocks her.

[01:56:42] It's like,

[01:56:42] it's cute.

[01:56:43] How hard you try,

[01:56:44] but remember without us,

[01:56:46] you're weak,

[01:56:47] you're flawed,

[01:56:48] helpless.

[01:56:49] We saved you without us.

[01:56:50] You're only human.

[01:56:51] Then we get these series of flashback scenes of a younger Carol being criticized and told

[01:56:55] to stay in her place and stay down.

[01:56:57] And then we see Carol and all these,

[01:57:02] and each one of these scenes,

[01:57:04] she keeps getting back up on her feet,

[01:57:05] back in her bike,

[01:57:07] back in the batter's box.

[01:57:11] Question for you all.

[01:57:12] Now,

[01:57:13] I don't remember what song was playing at this moment,

[01:57:15] but if I could suggest like little tub thumping,

[01:57:19] again,

[01:57:19] by Michael Bolton,

[01:57:20] I was going to say tub thumping by Chumbawamba.

[01:57:23] Like,

[01:57:23] Oh,

[01:57:25] that's good.

[01:57:26] Thanks.

[01:57:26] And that would remind us that we were in fact,

[01:57:28] in the mid nineties,

[01:57:29] in the mid nineties.

[01:57:30] Perfect.

[01:57:32] Carol then channels her.

[01:57:34] Finally,

[01:57:35] finally,

[01:57:35] we're at like an hour 20 in.

[01:57:37] She finally channels her inner bad-ass,

[01:57:39] which sparks her power.

[01:57:40] She said,

[01:57:41] I've been fighting the one arm.

[01:57:42] I think you mean her girl boss.

[01:57:44] Thank you.

[01:57:45] With one arm tied behind my back.

[01:57:47] But what happens when I'm finally set free?

[01:57:51] And so she breaks free to free supreme intelligence,

[01:57:55] and then goes on to fight back against the Korean order.

[01:57:57] Save Maria fury in the scrolls.

[01:57:59] And then we just get a bunch of quick,

[01:58:03] like fun cut scenes.

[01:58:05] So this is the,

[01:58:06] I'm just a girl part,

[01:58:07] right?

[01:58:08] Not yet.

[01:58:09] We'll guess that I will.

[01:58:10] I will.

[01:58:10] I call it out.

[01:58:12] How much I love.

[01:58:12] No doubt.

[01:58:13] I can't wait to get,

[01:58:14] until we get there.

[01:58:15] Do you love?

[01:58:16] No doubt.

[01:58:17] Okay.

[01:58:17] So Carol instructs fury to take the Tesseract and he doesn't want to

[01:58:21] touch.

[01:58:21] He's like,

[01:58:22] what do you want oven mitts?

[01:58:23] Which is kind of funny.

[01:58:25] She's holding it up.

[01:58:26] And then goose swallows it,

[01:58:28] which is a little,

[01:58:30] little homage to Bruce Banner being asked in the first vendor when he asked,

[01:58:35] like,

[01:58:35] what does fury want me to do?

[01:58:36] Swallow it.

[01:58:38] As Carol's takes on,

[01:58:39] starts to take on the Kree star force,

[01:58:41] Maria and fear are confronted by the Kree with guns,

[01:58:44] but just about to be captured in the flerk and eats them all.

[01:58:47] And fear is like,

[01:58:48] good kitty.

[01:58:48] I just like the idea of Dick fear as a cat person,

[01:58:50] which seems,

[01:58:51] you know,

[01:58:52] it's kind of fits.

[01:58:53] Yeah.

[01:58:54] It fits.

[01:58:54] I also love that there,

[01:58:56] that the cat actually was a flerken because if the whole time up until this

[01:59:00] point,

[01:59:01] when I,

[01:59:01] first time I watched the movie,

[01:59:02] I remember the whole time I was just like,

[01:59:05] if it's just a cat and they're calling it a flerken,

[01:59:08] we don't need this.

[01:59:09] And it's going to make me upset.

[01:59:11] Yeah.

[01:59:11] That's fair.

[01:59:12] Completely.

[01:59:12] It worked completely.

[01:59:13] So,

[01:59:14] uh,

[01:59:15] Carol tells,

[01:59:16] uh,

[01:59:16] fury and Maria to get everyone on the quad jet and that she will provide

[01:59:20] cover fury reluctantly,

[01:59:21] picks up goose and tells him,

[01:59:23] I'm trusting you not to eat me.

[01:59:25] And then this is where we get the big fight scene with Cree.

[01:59:31] Dan's favorite song.

[01:59:32] Just a girl.

[01:59:33] Yeah.

[01:59:34] No doubt.

[01:59:35] Just a girl.

[01:59:36] Dan,

[01:59:36] you have thoughts.

[01:59:38] Um,

[01:59:39] I don't know if calling it on the nose.

[01:59:45] Accurate enough.

[01:59:46] Uh,

[01:59:47] I think it's more like on several noses.

[01:59:55] It's,

[01:59:55] it's a hat on a hat on a hat.

[01:59:58] Yeah,

[01:59:59] yeah,

[01:59:59] it is.

[02:00:00] And I like,

[02:00:00] I like no doubt.

[02:00:01] I'm a,

[02:00:02] I,

[02:00:03] I enjoy their music,

[02:00:05] but it definitely felt like slap you in the face with 90s,

[02:00:11] slap you in the face with girl boss,

[02:00:13] slap you in the face with literally everything.

[02:00:16] Which up until this point,

[02:00:17] they,

[02:00:17] they have been very good about not doing too much of the girl boss stuff.

[02:00:24] It's,

[02:00:24] it was really just,

[02:00:25] here's a story,

[02:00:27] here's a character,

[02:00:28] here's the movie,

[02:00:29] you know?

[02:00:29] I mean,

[02:00:30] yeah,

[02:00:30] there are some giant flaws that we've talked about,

[02:00:34] but overall,

[02:00:35] I,

[02:00:36] on,

[02:00:36] on balance,

[02:00:37] I think it's okay.

[02:00:38] Um,

[02:00:39] but that moment,

[02:00:40] it's like,

[02:00:41] this is,

[02:00:42] it's almost like,

[02:00:43] like when we did that,

[02:00:44] that reverse punch up for,

[02:00:46] uh,

[02:00:48] dark world,

[02:00:48] this was,

[02:00:50] this was like someone did reverse punch up for like,

[02:00:52] you know,

[02:00:54] Hey,

[02:00:54] what's,

[02:00:55] what's the worst thing we could do in this scene for a movie like this?

[02:01:00] Yeah.

[02:01:00] Just a girl by no doubt.

[02:01:02] They're like,

[02:01:03] that's what we're doing.

[02:01:05] So the director said that they went through a bunch of songs for this sequence and looked at tracks from the 60s,

[02:01:11] 70s and 80s,

[02:01:11] which I don't know why you would,

[02:01:12] because you've already set this in the 90s.

[02:01:14] It seems kind of weird to me,

[02:01:16] but they went with the obvious choice.

[02:01:18] I personally,

[02:01:19] because it is such a popular song,

[02:01:22] it completely takes me.

[02:01:23] I like the song.

[02:01:24] I don't,

[02:01:24] I,

[02:01:25] I think it's,

[02:01:25] I think it's quite enjoyable.

[02:01:27] I've listened to it and sung it many times,

[02:01:31] but it just,

[02:01:33] unlike the guardian stuff and we'll kind of get to like the,

[02:01:35] when we get to the mute,

[02:01:36] the movie and kind of review what we think about it.

[02:01:39] Like,

[02:01:39] I think the guardians music was pretty subtle and well done and kind of like the scenes were fit around the music as opposed to the vice versa here.

[02:01:47] It just looks like,

[02:01:48] let's just cut and paste the most obvious song we can hear.

[02:01:51] Right.

[02:01:51] And it just,

[02:01:52] I don't know because it's so popular.

[02:01:54] Just like took me out.

[02:01:55] But anyway,

[02:01:56] they could have done a callback to I'm only happy when it rains and it would have totally worked.

[02:02:00] Yeah.

[02:02:00] Oh yeah.

[02:02:01] I've been fine with that.

[02:02:02] Yeah.

[02:02:02] Or Hey,

[02:02:03] sugar Ray.

[02:02:03] Anyone?

[02:02:04] Am I right?

[02:02:04] No,

[02:02:05] I'm kidding.

[02:02:08] Fury and Maria are caught by Cree guards.

[02:02:10] Fury tries to activate goose again.

[02:02:12] He said,

[02:02:12] come on,

[02:02:12] do your thing.

[02:02:13] Damn it.

[02:02:14] Goose pick side.

[02:02:15] You know,

[02:02:16] Yon-Rod fights Carol,

[02:02:18] but realized the Tesseract is missing.

[02:02:19] It's missing out of the font.

[02:02:20] I think it was the Fonz lunchbox.

[02:02:23] Yeah.

[02:02:23] Yeah.

[02:02:24] And the fight has only been a diversion.

[02:02:26] Fury,

[02:02:27] Mary of the scrolls,

[02:02:28] goose and Talos,

[02:02:28] who is disguised as a Cree break free,

[02:02:30] board the escape,

[02:02:32] the ship back to earth with the Tesseract.

[02:02:35] Minerva board,

[02:02:36] the ship chases after the quad jet.

[02:02:38] Yon-Rod boards another ship and is momentarily confronted by Carol,

[02:02:42] who kind of like jumps on the top of it until he kind of jettisons down into space with her clinging onto the wing,

[02:02:47] which this looks like a super fun Disneyland ride.

[02:02:51] Carol falls off the ship and is falling to earth backwards.

[02:02:56] She sees her,

[02:02:57] but she quote gets back up.

[02:02:59] Her eyes,

[02:02:59] you know,

[02:03:00] turn bright yellow.

[02:03:02] Um,

[02:03:02] and then due to the CG of this section,

[02:03:06] we should just call her Carol.

[02:03:08] Okay.

[02:03:09] Yeah.

[02:03:09] This is like one of the few times in a movie where I'm like,

[02:03:15] that was bad.

[02:03:17] Um,

[02:03:19] Captain Marvel's costume.

[02:03:20] This is a,

[02:03:21] this is the nod to the iconic Mohawk haircut that she wears,

[02:03:26] um,

[02:03:26] in space,

[02:03:27] which I kind of enjoyed saying just then.

[02:03:31] Um,

[02:03:31] so Yon-Rod shoots down Maria ship,

[02:03:34] but they land safely.

[02:03:35] Somehow Carol returns favor by damaging Yon-Rod ship and causing him to crash land.

[02:03:40] And Ronan appears super cool and chill dude with a fleet of shrimp,

[02:03:46] shrimp,

[02:03:46] shrimps,

[02:03:47] shrimps,

[02:03:47] ships,

[02:03:48] and shrimp.

[02:03:50] Oh,

[02:03:51] I love me a good shrimp.

[02:03:52] Too far.

[02:03:53] It is.

[02:03:54] Put a little raised Cajun sauce on there.

[02:03:57] Boy,

[02:03:58] let me.

[02:04:00] And I,

[02:04:01] this,

[02:04:02] this movie also made me realize that Ronan was not the villain that we should

[02:04:07] have had for guardians of the galaxy.

[02:04:09] How so?

[02:04:10] It's just,

[02:04:11] that's not,

[02:04:13] I don't know.

[02:04:14] I think that the,

[02:04:15] that character is better in this like chill psychopath role than in like the

[02:04:23] more maniacal.

[02:04:25] Like he's not there.

[02:04:26] Yeah.

[02:04:26] He's more like assistant villain.

[02:04:29] I think he's,

[02:04:30] he's better as a,

[02:04:31] as a villain orders like character wise.

[02:04:34] Yeah.

[02:04:34] I could see that.

[02:04:35] Yeah.

[02:04:36] I don't know.

[02:04:37] I,

[02:04:37] I feel like for guardians,

[02:04:39] it was just like,

[02:04:40] I don't know how,

[02:04:41] who's a villain.

[02:04:42] We could,

[02:04:42] I guess he,

[02:04:44] he's connected to that,

[02:04:46] you know,

[02:04:48] but I don't know.

[02:04:48] It was either him or potato man.

[02:04:50] I guess they went with Ronan sadly.

[02:04:53] So Ronan appears with a fleet of ships,

[02:04:55] launches ballistic missiles in order to exterminate the street,

[02:04:58] scroll presence.

[02:04:59] This is where Carol catches the one warhead,

[02:05:03] turns it around,

[02:05:04] flings the other way,

[02:05:05] and just happens to immediately blow up the rest.

[02:05:08] She goes up,

[02:05:09] cripples the fleet.

[02:05:11] She confronts Ronan and the,

[02:05:13] and the last ship and they retreat.

[02:05:14] Um,

[02:05:16] the one thing I would say is that,

[02:05:19] um,

[02:05:20] in the,

[02:05:20] the,

[02:05:21] a lot of the spaceship flights,

[02:05:23] um,

[02:05:23] not spaceship,

[02:05:24] the spaceship fights in between like the little caverns and stuff seem very

[02:05:28] kind of like star Wars.

[02:05:29] The directors talk to their big star Wars fans,

[02:05:32] the look of Ronan and the other Kree,

[02:05:35] the blue,

[02:05:36] every time I wash it.

[02:05:37] And if you see it ever again,

[02:05:39] which you may or may not,

[02:05:40] um,

[02:05:40] it just looks like blue man group to me.

[02:05:42] And it just super,

[02:05:43] just,

[02:05:43] they weren't even evil anymore.

[02:05:44] They're just like,

[02:05:45] it's super distracting.

[02:05:47] They should be just paint playing like tubes with mallets.

[02:05:51] Yes.

[02:05:51] Those should be the weapons.

[02:05:54] And they like ponderously around the,

[02:05:58] uh,

[02:05:59] you're all weird.

[02:06:02] Try to put a ping pong ball in your mouth.

[02:06:04] Come see us in Vegas.

[02:06:06] Five minutes a week.

[02:06:07] you want this,

[02:06:07] you want this kind of invasive enjoyment.

[02:06:09] Come see us at the Luxor.

[02:06:17] It's,

[02:06:20] it's not,

[02:06:21] you know,

[02:06:21] invasive and awful because we're blue.

[02:06:24] We don't know any better apparently,

[02:06:26] which I guess makes that better.

[02:06:29] I went to,

[02:06:30] I went,

[02:06:31] I went to Vegas for a basketball tournament and they would play it at

[02:06:35] halftime.

[02:06:35] And they'd have like these local shows.

[02:06:37] And so it's like the people riding the bicycles or the,

[02:06:40] the person who does like the painting upside down.

[02:06:42] All of a sudden,

[02:06:42] Oh my gosh,

[02:06:43] it's,

[02:06:43] you know,

[02:06:44] it's Prince.

[02:06:45] And my favorite one though,

[02:06:46] was this group,

[02:06:47] this cover band that did BG songs.

[02:06:51] And they were the Australian BJs.

[02:06:53] And my wife and I were both like,

[02:06:54] yeah,

[02:06:54] the BJs are from Australia.

[02:06:56] No shit.

[02:06:58] I was really hoping you were going to say it was the blue man cover

[02:07:01] group.

[02:07:02] Oh man.

[02:07:03] I know yellow man group.

[02:07:07] They go by the teal man group.

[02:07:09] So they don't get sued for infringement.

[02:07:10] Um,

[02:07:11] so,

[02:07:12] so Carol confronts Jan Rog,

[02:07:15] you know,

[02:07:16] he's on there and he tells her,

[02:07:17] he like,

[02:07:17] he has,

[02:07:17] he's ready.

[02:07:18] Got his guns ready to go.

[02:07:19] He puts away.

[02:07:19] He's like,

[02:07:20] I'm so proud of you.

[02:07:21] Um,

[02:07:22] but then he's like,

[02:07:22] he's like,

[02:07:23] but he wonders if you can like,

[02:07:24] if you can,

[02:07:25] I wonder if you can keep your emotions in check.

[02:07:26] It's like,

[02:07:27] I've always told you,

[02:07:28] I'll be ready to the day you can knock me down as yourself.

[02:07:30] This is that moment fears.

[02:07:32] And he's ready to go.

[02:07:33] And then she just pulls like an Indiana Jones.

[02:07:35] It's just like,

[02:07:36] it just shoots him.

[02:07:38] Uh,

[02:07:39] and she says,

[02:07:40] I have nothing to prove to you.

[02:07:41] Drags him back to the ship,

[02:07:42] sends him back to hollow with a warning for the Supreme intelligence.

[02:07:46] Fury's holding goose and talking to him.

[02:07:48] He's like,

[02:07:49] that was a close call.

[02:07:50] Goosey.

[02:07:51] And then goose scratches,

[02:07:53] furious left eye.

[02:07:54] And he goes,

[02:07:55] mother flurking.

[02:07:57] And he's like,

[02:07:59] are you okay?

[02:08:00] Fury's like,

[02:08:00] yeah,

[02:08:01] it's just a scratch.

[02:08:02] And then tell us at the back of the ship.

[02:08:04] No,

[02:08:05] not at all.

[02:08:05] Um,

[02:08:07] and so this is the infamous,

[02:08:09] you know,

[02:08:10] um,

[02:08:12] you know,

[02:08:12] moment wearing the eye patch throughout the rest of it.

[02:08:15] So I have another nineties reference.

[02:08:17] She says to tell the Supreme intelligence that she's going to play it.

[02:08:22] Like it's a Sega channel game.

[02:08:25] Uh,

[02:08:29] so bad.

[02:08:31] Uh,

[02:08:31] she's going to blow into it like a Nintendo cartridge.

[02:08:38] While watching the Titanic double VHS.

[02:08:43] Should have been laser disc.

[02:08:47] Hold on.

[02:08:48] I got turned it over.

[02:08:51] It's better like that.

[02:08:52] It's better.

[02:08:56] So Carol offers to finish what Marvell started.

[02:09:00] Find them a new home.

[02:09:00] She tells Fury to keep the Tesseract on earth and then gives Fury a modified pager quote for emergencies.

[02:09:07] Only.

[02:09:07] The question I have for you two is a text from,

[02:09:11] uh,

[02:09:11] from Fury,

[02:09:12] which says,

[02:09:13] yo,

[02:09:13] you up girl.

[02:09:14] Is that an emergency?

[02:09:16] No.

[02:09:16] Okay.

[02:09:18] So she says goodbye to Maria and Monica.

[02:09:21] And then departs.

[02:09:22] Not one.

[02:09:22] I would respond to.

[02:09:23] Probably not.

[02:09:24] Probably like the next day.

[02:09:26] Kind of like,

[02:09:27] it is an emergency of,

[02:09:28] of like,

[02:09:30] it's like an existential emergency of like on his part.

[02:09:34] Yes.

[02:09:35] Yes.

[02:09:35] Completely.

[02:09:37] Um,

[02:09:38] she says goodbye to Maria and Monica departs with the scrolls to help them find a new home

[02:09:41] world.

[02:09:42] I think Ryan,

[02:09:43] keep me wrong.

[02:09:44] This is the last time they see each other.

[02:09:45] Right.

[02:09:46] Marian and Carol.

[02:09:49] Yeah.

[02:09:49] This was in.

[02:09:51] Yep.

[02:09:51] This is the last time they see each other for a while.

[02:09:52] And Monica.

[02:09:53] Yeah.

[02:09:53] Because Maria gets snapped away.

[02:09:55] Right.

[02:09:56] Oh yeah.

[02:09:57] And then she dies.

[02:09:58] It's the last time.

[02:09:59] Oh,

[02:09:59] oh yeah.

[02:10:01] Yeah.

[02:10:01] Spoiler for the future.

[02:10:04] Um,

[02:10:06] and then we see the final scene.

[02:10:10] Fury's in the office.

[02:10:11] He is sporting in a prompt to eye patch held together by tape.

[02:10:15] Colson walks in and carries a box of replacement eyeballs.

[02:10:18] So just real quick question.

[02:10:20] Is he,

[02:10:20] is he missing an eye?

[02:10:22] Is he blind?

[02:10:23] Is it,

[02:10:23] is it gone?

[02:10:24] I thought his eye was still there.

[02:10:25] I think that doesn't work anymore.

[02:10:28] Yeah.

[02:10:28] Okay.

[02:10:29] Cause his,

[02:10:29] his,

[02:10:29] his blind eye plays a key part in a winter soldier.

[02:10:34] Yep.

[02:10:35] And,

[02:10:36] um,

[02:10:37] I,

[02:10:37] uh,

[02:10:38] one of the,

[02:10:38] I think it might've been the director's commentary somewhere else suggested that he

[02:10:41] kept the eye because if they were invaded by scrolls,

[02:10:44] it's the one thing they couldn't imitate because they did it.

[02:10:49] They wouldn't assume that his eyes still under there.

[02:10:51] That makes sense.

[02:10:51] Yeah.

[02:10:51] There was also a funny part where they talk about the scrolls where,

[02:10:54] you know,

[02:10:54] he goes and talks about like the Havana pincher move.

[02:10:57] And,

[02:10:57] um,

[02:10:58] originally they think about filming a scene where they're on the elevator and

[02:11:01] Fury tells him his shoelace is untied and he just has no idea how to tie a

[02:11:05] shoelace.

[02:11:05] Like,

[02:11:07] which I thought was kind of funny.

[02:11:09] So Coulson walks in,

[02:11:10] he asks,

[02:11:11] uh,

[02:11:11] sir,

[02:11:12] is it true that the Kree burned out your eye because you refused to give them the

[02:11:15] Tesseract?

[02:11:16] Fury's like,

[02:11:17] I will neither confirm nor deny the facts of that story.

[02:11:20] But he's just like between me and you,

[02:11:21] I confirm the facts that story.

[02:11:24] Uh,

[02:11:25] the Fury tells Coulson,

[02:11:27] they have no idea what other intellect intergalactic threats that are out

[02:11:29] there.

[02:11:30] He says shield alone can't protect them.

[02:11:33] There's obviously other people out there,

[02:11:34] other forces.

[02:11:35] He reviews the Pegasus file and takes inspiration from Carol Danvers,

[02:11:39] air force call sign Avenger for an idea to bring together a group of remarkable

[02:11:43] people to serve as America's mightiest heroes.

[02:11:48] And then we get,

[02:11:50] uh,

[02:11:51] holes,

[02:11:51] celebrity skin,

[02:11:52] the plays at the very end.

[02:11:55] They went and watched the Phantom Menace together.

[02:12:05] Listen to,

[02:12:05] uh,

[02:12:06] ban the milk for Star Wars.

[02:12:13] Oh man.

[02:12:14] Well,

[02:12:15] um,

[02:12:16] guys,

[02:12:16] we made it,

[02:12:16] we made it through.

[02:12:17] We made it.

[02:12:18] We did.

[02:12:19] We did it,

[02:12:20] man.

[02:12:21] Um,

[02:12:22] Ryan bet me 20 bucks and we wouldn't make it through.

[02:12:27] I will take that $20.

[02:12:29] Thank you.

[02:12:33] So what,

[02:12:35] was,

[02:12:38] what was our main takeaway from this movie?

[02:12:41] You know,

[02:12:41] how did this movie impact the MCU filmmaking media,

[02:12:47] whatever,

[02:12:47] how,

[02:12:47] whatever you've got at large,

[02:12:51] uh,

[02:12:53] David,

[02:12:53] I guess I'm going to kick it over to you first.

[02:12:56] What,

[02:12:56] what impact do you feel like this movie had?

[02:13:00] Uh,

[02:13:02] you know,

[02:13:02] why was it significant?

[02:13:04] Some of it,

[02:13:05] I won't get into until we get to end game,

[02:13:07] but I,

[02:13:08] you know,

[02:13:09] immediately again,

[02:13:10] it was the first female led superhero movie projects in the MCU to date.

[02:13:15] We had Ant-Man,

[02:13:16] the Wasp last movie.

[02:13:18] Here was a standalone female superhero,

[02:13:21] like on her own.

[02:13:23] And for that,

[02:13:24] and it was,

[02:13:25] um,

[02:13:25] directed by one of the directors of a woman.

[02:13:27] Most of the directors were female,

[02:13:29] you know,

[02:13:29] for that,

[02:13:30] in that sense,

[02:13:30] it was great to have this kind of representation,

[02:13:32] which Marvel for the most part,

[02:13:34] things I can pro mutter,

[02:13:35] like have tamped down for years.

[02:13:37] And so the fact that it was so,

[02:13:40] this and Black Panther were so successful,

[02:13:42] I think they made together like,

[02:13:44] I don't know,

[02:13:45] 2.3,

[02:13:46] 2.4 billion dollars suggested that they could go,

[02:13:49] they,

[02:13:49] they didn't have to be limited.

[02:13:50] They didn't have to be afraid of making certain types of films.

[02:13:53] Now we could say,

[02:13:53] we can debate whether that has paid off in phases four and five and in some of the TV shows.

[02:13:58] But I do think that was probably the main impact from it.

[02:14:03] Obviously some of the stuff set up the next Avengers movie.

[02:14:06] Um,

[02:14:07] but I,

[02:14:07] yeah,

[02:14:07] I would say that's the main impact.

[02:14:09] I would agree.

[02:14:10] I would agree.

[02:14:11] Um,

[02:14:11] I think the only other thing I can think of is introducing the scroll,

[02:14:15] which are a seminal,

[02:14:16] um,

[02:14:19] villain within the MC or within the Marvel like comics.

[02:14:22] Um,

[02:14:23] so bringing them in was important.

[02:14:26] And I feel like they didn't,

[02:14:27] didn't really know what to do with captain Marvel after other than just let's have her save everything.

[02:14:34] And,

[02:14:35] and that's,

[02:14:36] I,

[02:14:36] I think that's the downfall of captain Marvel.

[02:14:38] Like where she continued is they never introduced her limitation.

[02:14:42] Uh,

[02:14:43] they never,

[02:14:44] she's just super OP.

[02:14:47] Yeah.

[02:14:48] And I,

[02:14:48] I think that's another reason why I wish they could have dialed back a little bit of the unnecessary chumminess.

[02:14:56] And like time wise,

[02:14:58] just carved off a few minutes here and there from the nineties stuff and the chumminess.

[02:15:06] Cause I,

[02:15:06] it's still good to have it as a balance,

[02:15:08] but like maybe spend some more time on those more interesting parts that are inherent to the character to make it so that it's not just like,

[02:15:19] Hey,

[02:15:20] space powers here,

[02:15:21] you know?

[02:15:23] Right.

[02:15:24] Right.

[02:15:25] Um,

[02:15:27] I do think this,

[02:15:29] I mean,

[02:15:29] I don't know how far we want to get into this,

[02:15:31] but it is interesting how,

[02:15:34] let's just say how impossible it would be to make this movie now.

[02:15:39] Oh yeah.

[02:15:42] Yeah.

[02:15:43] Yeah.

[02:15:44] Uh,

[02:15:45] because I mean,

[02:15:46] I don't want to alienate anybody,

[02:15:48] but there's,

[02:15:48] there are things going on in the world,

[02:15:50] you know?

[02:15:53] Yeah.

[02:15:54] A,

[02:15:54] a,

[02:15:55] a refugee pop,

[02:15:57] a story about a refugee population that is struggling to,

[02:16:05] well,

[02:16:06] refugee population in its own land,

[02:16:09] struggling,

[02:16:09] struggling to,

[02:16:10] uh,

[02:16:11] carve out its space.

[02:16:12] This is challenging.

[02:16:13] I'm going to play it kind of safe while still saying kind of what's going on there.

[02:16:18] A refugee population that is at the very least grossly misunderstood in terms of what it is that they're facing and why.

[02:16:27] Yeah,

[02:16:28] I agree that that struck me on this rewatch,

[02:16:31] um,

[02:16:32] just because,

[02:16:33] you know,

[02:16:34] geopolitical events are a little bit,

[02:16:36] uh,

[02:16:37] spicier now than they were in,

[02:16:38] or at least more to the forefront,

[02:16:41] I guess I should say.

[02:16:42] Yeah.

[02:16:42] And they were in 2019.

[02:16:43] Yeah.

[02:16:45] Um,

[02:16:48] but,

[02:16:48] uh,

[02:16:49] okay,

[02:16:50] let's see here.

[02:16:52] MVP wise.

[02:16:53] I would like to go last.

[02:16:55] You want to go last?

[02:16:57] Dan,

[02:16:58] do you want to,

[02:16:58] do you want to jump out first?

[02:17:00] Let me just pick.

[02:17:01] Oh,

[02:17:02] go ahead.

[02:17:02] Let me,

[02:17:02] let me frame this for you,

[02:17:03] Dan.

[02:17:03] I mean,

[02:17:03] it's,

[02:17:04] it's pretty obvious.

[02:17:05] Like you're going to,

[02:17:05] when you're looking at like MVP,

[02:17:08] right?

[02:17:09] Academy world winner.

[02:17:10] Who are you going with?

[02:17:11] Samuel Jackson or Jude law?

[02:17:15] I'm going to go with by you,

[02:17:17] uh,

[02:17:17] Pete or whatever.

[02:17:19] Now who's your MVP?

[02:17:20] Who's,

[02:17:20] who's the star for you?

[02:17:22] I mean,

[02:17:23] I don't want,

[02:17:23] I feel bad taking it.

[02:17:25] You know?

[02:17:25] Okay.

[02:17:26] No,

[02:17:26] I think I'm going to go ahead.

[02:17:28] Cause I know one of you is going to pick who I was going to pick.

[02:17:31] I am going to pick Jude law because he,

[02:17:35] knowing that another person will be also picked.

[02:17:38] Um,

[02:17:39] because I think he plays a character who is super,

[02:17:50] super unlikable,

[02:17:51] but just barely,

[02:17:54] just barely.

[02:17:56] I don't want to say charming,

[02:17:57] like convincing enough that you can almost see how someone who has lost their

[02:18:05] memory and is in a vulnerable place would go like,

[02:18:08] Oh,

[02:18:09] I guess you are helping me.

[02:18:13] Yeah.

[02:18:14] He's,

[02:18:14] he's a very realistic,

[02:18:15] like manipulative character.

[02:18:18] Right.

[02:18:19] I could see that with like the charisma,

[02:18:21] the,

[02:18:22] and like you're saying,

[02:18:23] dislikable,

[02:18:24] but something likable about him in a way.

[02:18:27] I think,

[02:18:27] I think if you take it in the context of this is kind of what,

[02:18:33] who the Kree are,

[02:18:34] this is what their culture is.

[02:18:35] This is,

[02:18:36] you know,

[02:18:37] maybe this reads as charming in that society.

[02:18:40] I don't know.

[02:18:42] Yeah,

[02:18:42] I can see that.

[02:18:43] I can see that.

[02:18:45] I like that pick.

[02:18:46] Um,

[02:18:48] I'm going to go with the person who I suspect you expect one of us.

[02:18:51] us to pick,

[02:18:53] Talos.

[02:18:53] Oh yeah.

[02:18:54] So,

[02:18:55] so yeah,

[02:18:55] I think Talos was the MVP here and that does take him off the table for,

[02:19:00] uh,

[02:19:02] down the road where he shows back up.

[02:19:04] Um,

[02:19:05] which is fine.

[02:19:06] I think rightfully so.

[02:19:08] Um,

[02:19:10] because clearly,

[02:19:11] uh,

[02:19:12] what's her name?

[02:19:13] Brie Larson.

[02:19:14] No,

[02:19:15] and that Benning Colby.

[02:19:17] Well,

[02:19:19] Khaleesi clearly Khaleesi is the MVP in the secret wars.

[02:19:23] Yeah.

[02:19:25] Uh,

[02:19:26] so yeah,

[02:19:27] I,

[02:19:27] I,

[02:19:28] I love,

[02:19:28] I think the way that the scroll were shared here and,

[02:19:33] and that refugee story is actually really well done where it's like,

[02:19:37] you are led to believe for so long that the scroll are just these monsters,

[02:19:42] right?

[02:19:43] Through,

[02:19:43] through so much of the movie,

[02:19:44] the scroll are just the bad guys.

[02:19:47] They're,

[02:19:48] they're kind of painted as a generic bad guy.

[02:19:50] And then Talos does a really good job of flipping that on its head.

[02:19:56] Um,

[02:19:57] plus he's the comedic,

[02:19:58] he's comedic relief without being slapstick,

[02:20:00] which is something you don't get much of in the MCU.

[02:20:05] Um,

[02:20:06] yeah.

[02:20:06] Comedy,

[02:20:06] the comedy is based in a sort of gallows humor that I think is really important for

[02:20:11] that character.

[02:20:12] Yeah.

[02:20:12] It's just like,

[02:20:13] look,

[02:20:13] I've seen all sorts of language.

[02:20:16] Right.

[02:20:18] Yeah.

[02:20:18] He also,

[02:20:19] I mean,

[02:20:19] he does,

[02:20:20] he,

[02:20:20] he,

[02:20:21] there's a surprisingly wide range of emotions mentioned that kind of the humor

[02:20:25] he brings.

[02:20:26] Obviously you see like the emotional attachment to his wife and daughter.

[02:20:30] Um,

[02:20:31] he has to deliver some exposition in the movie and explain things in a way that

[02:20:35] you're not kind of like,

[02:20:36] Oh,

[02:20:36] this is kind of boring.

[02:20:38] Um,

[02:20:39] yeah,

[02:20:39] he was good.

[02:20:40] Like on rewatch,

[02:20:41] I think his performance kind of jumps out the most of like,

[02:20:44] Oh,

[02:20:44] Ben Mendelsohn is bringing it.

[02:20:46] Yeah.

[02:20:47] Right.

[02:20:48] And he makes an awesome etouffee.

[02:20:52] My secret and great.

[02:20:53] Let me tell you my raised bourbon sauce is what I like to put in my etouffee.

[02:21:02] David,

[02:21:02] who you got?

[02:21:03] It would be hella funny if I picked Samuel Jackson,

[02:21:08] um,

[02:21:09] who I think is really good in the movie.

[02:21:12] Um,

[02:21:13] it is as much,

[02:21:14] not as much,

[02:21:15] but it's a slight,

[02:21:16] you know,

[02:21:16] his origin story is kind of important.

[02:21:18] I thought he,

[02:21:19] um,

[02:21:20] I thought he brought like a real kind of first person,

[02:21:23] like what the hell is going on here with all the space alien thing.

[02:21:26] But,

[02:21:26] um,

[02:21:27] I'm gonna give it to Brie Larson.

[02:21:29] Um,

[02:21:29] we'll,

[02:21:29] we'll talk about her performance.

[02:21:30] I,

[02:21:31] she's a talented actress.

[02:21:32] I don't think she has the greatest script.

[02:21:33] In fact,

[02:21:34] I think the script is actually pretty bad in hindsight.

[02:21:36] Um,

[02:21:38] but I think she's given,

[02:21:39] it's almost,

[02:21:40] um,

[02:21:41] it's almost an impossible.

[02:21:43] I don't want to say impossible task.

[02:21:45] That's a little bit strong,

[02:21:46] but like,

[02:21:46] you have to be this very kind of believable,

[02:21:50] like,

[02:21:51] you know,

[02:21:52] badass superhero.

[02:21:53] You have this ridiculous plot device where you have,

[02:21:56] you don't know your memory.

[02:21:57] You don't know your powers.

[02:21:59] And there's no real,

[02:22:01] let's be honest,

[02:22:02] there's no real character arc for her.

[02:22:04] Cause right.

[02:22:05] And so,

[02:22:05] but to be able to do that,

[02:22:07] be kind of be funny.

[02:22:08] I think she had a believable relationship,

[02:22:10] not in the first scene,

[02:22:11] but in the second scene with,

[02:22:13] um,

[02:22:14] with Maria in the kitchen,

[02:22:15] I thought that was like a very real,

[02:22:18] believable kind of relationship.

[02:22:20] And so,

[02:22:21] and because she just predominantly,

[02:22:22] she did physical acting.

[02:22:23] Like she would be my,

[02:22:25] she'd be on my MVP.

[02:22:27] Yeah.

[02:22:27] I think,

[02:22:28] I think the script for this movie in particular was a little bit of a

[02:22:32] mismatch with Brie Larson.

[02:22:36] And what I love is further on in the MCU,

[02:22:39] she gets to develop,

[02:22:40] she gets to be a little bit more of herself where she's kind of a

[02:22:44] badass,

[02:22:44] but also can be silly about it.

[02:22:46] And that's something that I think was missing a little bit from this

[02:22:50] movie was there wasn't really that silliness.

[02:22:52] There was no,

[02:22:53] there was no sense of like,

[02:22:55] what does it mean to connect these two things that I have just learned

[02:23:00] about myself?

[02:23:01] Yeah.

[02:23:01] It's just like,

[02:23:02] Hey,

[02:23:03] now I'm just going to do whatever the director says.

[02:23:05] I think,

[02:23:06] I think it is.

[02:23:07] I think it's a direction problem.

[02:23:09] I think the,

[02:23:09] yeah,

[02:23:09] the script isn't great,

[02:23:10] but I also think it's a direction problem from that point in the movie

[02:23:13] on,

[02:23:14] there was no discussion of like,

[02:23:16] what does this actually mean?

[02:23:18] What's,

[02:23:19] what's the new thing that I should be thinking about?

[02:23:22] What,

[02:23:23] you know,

[02:23:23] I think it's just sort of like,

[02:23:25] Oh yeah,

[02:23:25] no,

[02:23:26] you're,

[02:23:26] you're kept Marvel now.

[02:23:27] Have fun.

[02:23:28] Yeah.

[02:23:29] I mean,

[02:23:30] it's,

[02:23:30] it's not like a,

[02:23:31] don't get me wrong.

[02:23:31] It's not like,

[02:23:32] it's not like a perfect,

[02:23:33] you know,

[02:23:34] delivery if you will,

[02:23:35] but like,

[02:23:35] and I think you guys obviously gets way too much grief from fans,

[02:23:39] but I don't,

[02:23:40] I don't,

[02:23:41] you know,

[02:23:41] I don't think.

[02:23:42] I get what you're saying.

[02:23:42] I think,

[02:23:42] I think it's,

[02:23:43] it's like,

[02:23:44] you know,

[02:23:44] it's like Cajun food.

[02:23:45] Like you're giving this trash and you put it in a pot and you put it in the right spices.

[02:23:51] It comes out good.

[02:23:55] But no,

[02:23:55] I mean like you're,

[02:23:57] she wasn't given the best tools to work with in some cases,

[02:24:01] but she still makes it work.

[02:24:03] So moving on to our other kind of wrap up thing here.

[02:24:07] So we rank these,

[02:24:09] we overall kind of give an overall impression of the movie as well as basically middle third,

[02:24:14] top third,

[02:24:15] bottom third.

[02:24:15] So with all the projects involved,

[02:24:18] there's about 40 projects,

[02:24:20] I think total over the whole MCU,

[02:24:23] including TV shows and everything else.

[02:24:25] But we're not,

[02:24:26] we're ranking those differently,

[02:24:28] right?

[02:24:28] We're not.

[02:24:29] No,

[02:24:29] they'll be added in.

[02:24:30] Whoa,

[02:24:30] whoa,

[02:24:31] whoa.

[02:24:31] This is,

[02:24:33] I just,

[02:24:34] we'll,

[02:24:35] we'll argue it during the phase.

[02:24:38] For now,

[02:24:39] we have 36 films.

[02:24:41] Yeah.

[02:24:42] So 36 films up to this point.

[02:24:44] We're,

[02:24:45] we're ranking it up to this point in the release order.

[02:24:49] No,

[02:24:49] no.

[02:24:50] Of what you know of the MCU.

[02:24:51] So if you haven't seen everything,

[02:24:52] it's fine,

[02:24:53] but basically we're ranking it top third,

[02:24:56] middle third,

[02:24:56] bottom third.

[02:24:57] So,

[02:24:57] okay.

[02:24:57] So everything's open in the timeline.

[02:24:59] Yep.

[02:25:00] Okay.

[02:25:00] Yep.

[02:25:01] Everything,

[02:25:01] you know,

[02:25:01] yep.

[02:25:02] So top 12,

[02:25:03] middle 12 or bottom 12.

[02:25:04] Yeah.

[02:25:05] So ish.

[02:25:07] David,

[02:25:08] where are you putting it?

[02:25:11] Um,

[02:25:11] I have thought about this question a lot and I,

[02:25:14] I struggled with it.

[02:25:15] I think I'm putting it in the middle third,

[02:25:18] but of the bottom of the middle third.

[02:25:21] Okay.

[02:25:22] And kind of in that spot that like with more movies,

[02:25:24] it might bump down or something.

[02:25:26] Potentially.

[02:25:26] I don't want it to necessarily bump down,

[02:25:28] but like I,

[02:25:29] on rewatch,

[02:25:30] I mean,

[02:25:30] I,

[02:25:30] I was bummed watching it.

[02:25:32] It was not as good as I had hoped or remembered.

[02:25:36] Um,

[02:25:37] I thought the screenwriting,

[02:25:38] I think this is one of the worst scripts we've seen.

[02:25:41] To be honest,

[02:25:42] the flashback scenes were confusing and took away from her story.

[02:25:46] Um,

[02:25:48] the story is kind of formulaic.

[02:25:50] And then just like the production itself,

[02:25:53] like it,

[02:25:54] to the point about like the nineties,

[02:25:57] um,

[02:25:58] you know,

[02:25:58] nostalgia,

[02:25:58] it didn't feel very nineties.

[02:26:00] Like,

[02:26:01] Oh,

[02:26:01] Hey,

[02:26:02] there's a,

[02:26:02] you know,

[02:26:03] there's a device here.

[02:26:04] There's a item here.

[02:26:05] There's,

[02:26:05] Oh,

[02:26:06] it's Alta Vista,

[02:26:07] but it didn't,

[02:26:08] otherwise didn't feel like that could have been said any year.

[02:26:10] Right.

[02:26:11] Do you think there should have been a scene where she pays extra for color

[02:26:13] printing?

[02:26:14] Yes,

[02:26:14] I do.

[02:26:15] I think you should go onto Kinko's and printed out the map to Torfa.

[02:26:19] And then I'm just kidding.

[02:26:20] or,

[02:26:20] or perhaps hanging out in the Barnes and Noble cafe with the friend.

[02:26:27] It's all coming back to me.

[02:26:28] It's all come back.

[02:26:29] Um,

[02:26:30] but like,

[02:26:31] uh,

[02:26:32] and like,

[02:26:32] even just,

[02:26:33] if you just look,

[02:26:33] if you put aside the script and the characters,

[02:26:37] it like the off world locations,

[02:26:40] like Holland Torfa are just kind of lame.

[02:26:42] They just look very basic.

[02:26:43] Um,

[02:26:44] and I,

[02:26:45] I just get the sense it wanted to be like guardians of the galaxy with like

[02:26:49] humor and the same music,

[02:26:51] but like the dead pan,

[02:26:53] her dead pan delivery didn't always land.

[02:26:55] And some of the music choices were like,

[02:26:57] we're awful.

[02:26:58] We just,

[02:26:58] we're not good.

[02:26:59] So mid middle-ish to bottom-ish,

[02:27:03] but I'll say middle-ish for now.

[02:27:08] Am I taking into consideration how much secret wars exist or is it just

[02:27:15] property by property?

[02:27:16] Okay.

[02:27:17] Yeah.

[02:27:18] I think it's either in the,

[02:27:20] it's in the top ish of the bottom third.

[02:27:27] Okay.

[02:27:27] This,

[02:27:27] this is about as kind of on the cusp.

[02:27:32] It's on the cusp.

[02:27:33] I,

[02:27:33] it's almost like,

[02:27:36] it's like,

[02:27:37] son,

[02:27:38] I really want to give you a C minus on this paper,

[02:27:40] but it's just too deep.

[02:27:41] Plus it's no,

[02:27:43] this is very much C minus,

[02:27:44] I think.

[02:27:45] Okay.

[02:27:45] Um,

[02:27:46] but also I think it's more just the unevenness of it.

[02:27:50] There are parts that I really like.

[02:27:52] I really like that.

[02:27:53] It makes me feel certain things,

[02:27:55] even if they're uncomfortable.

[02:27:56] Right.

[02:27:57] Um,

[02:27:58] I appreciate that.

[02:28:00] And on that,

[02:28:01] on that alone,

[02:28:02] I want to give it higher,

[02:28:03] but it's just so damn uneven.

[02:28:06] And there are so many choices in it.

[02:28:08] That's like,

[02:28:09] why did you do that?

[02:28:12] Yeah.

[02:28:13] Um,

[02:28:15] and honestly,

[02:28:16] I'm more bothered that it wasn't made by committee than it was.

[02:28:21] Cause I,

[02:28:21] when I looked up the information on it,

[02:28:23] I expected to see like 15 directors and like 30 different writers.

[02:28:31] It's only like,

[02:28:32] only like three directors touched it,

[02:28:34] which is still more than usual.

[02:28:36] Um,

[02:28:37] and two are a team.

[02:28:38] I get that.

[02:28:39] And I think there's like three writers.

[02:28:41] Like,

[02:28:42] I really expected it to be one of those things.

[02:28:44] It's just like,

[02:28:44] Oh,

[02:28:45] that's why it's the way it is.

[02:28:47] But there's none of that.

[02:28:48] Oh,

[02:28:48] I see.

[02:28:48] Cause it had something like the three rights and they replaced the directors.

[02:28:52] I got you.

[02:28:52] Like,

[02:28:52] like,

[02:28:53] like I,

[02:28:53] I almost expected it to,

[02:28:55] when I looked at it to be like fan forestic where it's just like,

[02:28:58] Oh,

[02:28:58] okay.

[02:28:59] That's why I can unsee the good movie in the kind of trash that they threw on top of it.

[02:29:05] I got you.

[02:29:06] Yeah.

[02:29:06] So like the writers and directors were at odds and like directly like passive aggressive

[02:29:10] film scene,

[02:29:11] you know,

[02:29:11] I got you.

[02:29:12] Yeah.

[02:29:12] Like the fact that it was made by a more or less singular vision makes it worse.

[02:29:19] Yeah.

[02:29:20] I can,

[02:29:21] I can see that.

[02:29:22] I can see that.

[02:29:23] So,

[02:29:23] yeah.

[02:29:25] That's fair.

[02:29:27] I think,

[02:29:28] I think for me,

[02:29:29] I would put it,

[02:29:30] I would put it in the middle third myself.

[02:29:33] I would say,

[02:29:34] you know,

[02:29:34] there's probably 12 movies that are worse than it.

[02:29:36] I,

[02:29:37] I,

[02:29:38] you know,

[02:29:38] not going to name them right now,

[02:29:40] but definitely in that middle third area.

[02:29:45] I think also in,

[02:29:48] in the honor of like trying to meet it where it is.

[02:29:51] Right.

[02:29:52] I think this is a movie where I think actually was last time you were on Dan,

[02:29:57] Dan,

[02:29:58] where we talked about how much like dark world actually improved.

[02:30:04] Like it,

[02:30:05] it,

[02:30:06] it aged well because of everything that's been built around it.

[02:30:08] I think this goes a little bit the opposite way where,

[02:30:12] Oh yeah,

[02:30:12] I see what you're saying.

[02:30:14] Where like one,

[02:30:15] it's legacy isn't great,

[02:30:16] but two,

[02:30:17] like it was the movie that came out a couple months before end game.

[02:30:23] Well,

[02:30:23] and let's be fair.

[02:30:24] It also came out after,

[02:30:26] uh,

[02:30:27] infinity war,

[02:30:28] which was like,

[02:30:29] it's almost like that,

[02:30:31] uh,

[02:30:32] dark night versus dark night rises thing where it's like,

[02:30:37] is it really that much worse or is it just the other one so much better?

[02:30:41] Right.

[02:30:42] And so I,

[02:30:43] I think like it at the time it came out,

[02:30:46] it was,

[02:30:48] I think maybe more enjoyable again,

[02:30:50] the nineties setting was a little bit more novel at the time.

[02:30:54] And so it didn't like the first time you watch this,

[02:30:59] you're like,

[02:30:59] Oh cool.

[02:31:00] Ha weird.

[02:31:02] 90,

[02:31:02] a quirky nineties soundtrack.

[02:31:04] Um,

[02:31:04] whereas like now watching,

[02:31:06] it's like,

[02:31:07] they just literally went to Spotify and clicked total nineties shuffle.

[02:31:13] Um,

[02:31:14] yeah.

[02:31:14] Cause it is kind of everywhere now.

[02:31:17] Yeah.

[02:31:17] And so I,

[02:31:18] I think like,

[02:31:21] and,

[02:31:21] and you know,

[02:31:22] the,

[02:31:23] the,

[02:31:23] the purpose of ranking these is ranking them where we sit today.

[02:31:26] And so,

[02:31:27] yeah,

[02:31:27] I would,

[02:31:28] I would put this,

[02:31:29] I would put this solely squarely in the mid third,

[02:31:33] um,

[02:31:35] and I,

[02:31:36] I think out of the captain Marvel projects,

[02:31:40] it's probably the lesser,

[02:31:42] um,

[02:31:44] wait,

[02:31:44] you think the Marvels is better?

[02:31:46] I think so.

[02:31:47] I think it's more,

[02:31:48] certainly more enjoyable.

[02:31:50] Is it better?

[02:31:52] Um,

[02:31:52] it's like Deadpool and Wolverine is enjoyable,

[02:31:54] but it's not,

[02:31:54] I don't think it's,

[02:31:55] I don't think it's made to be better.

[02:31:56] I think,

[02:31:57] I think the,

[02:31:57] I think the Marvels is made to be kind of silly and,

[02:32:04] um,

[02:32:05] you know,

[02:32:06] still it's sort of Marvel universe adjacent.

[02:32:09] Yeah.

[02:32:09] You know,

[02:32:10] and I don't have a problem with that.

[02:32:12] Uh,

[02:32:13] I do.

[02:32:13] I,

[02:32:13] I was thinking like,

[02:32:15] if someone were to tell me that this was their favorite Marvel movie,

[02:32:19] I would not think they were crazy,

[02:32:24] but I would want to ask them why and have be like,

[02:32:29] what about it?

[02:32:30] You know,

[02:32:30] get Brandy on the next episode.

[02:32:33] Is it?

[02:32:33] Is that hers?

[02:32:34] It is.

[02:32:35] Oh,

[02:32:35] wow.

[02:32:35] I think I could be Eric.

[02:32:37] Eric,

[02:32:38] tell me if I'm wrong,

[02:32:38] but yeah.

[02:32:39] Um,

[02:32:40] Brandy is a big Captain Marvel fan and I know loves this movie.

[02:32:44] So,

[02:32:45] um,

[02:32:46] but yeah,

[02:32:48] well,

[02:32:48] let's explain to her why she's wrong.

[02:32:52] I could completely understand if someone like that student that I worked

[02:32:55] with told me,

[02:32:57] this is my favorite Marvel movie.

[02:32:59] And because,

[02:33:00] because it means so much because this character means so much to me and all

[02:33:04] of that,

[02:33:04] I would,

[02:33:05] of course,

[02:33:06] because I am the way I am.

[02:33:07] I would be like,

[02:33:08] well,

[02:33:08] are we talking about quality or,

[02:33:10] um,

[02:33:12] but I would be surprised if someone was like,

[02:33:15] no,

[02:33:15] I think this is like actually legitimately the best Marvel movie.

[02:33:19] Yeah.

[02:33:20] Let's talk.

[02:33:22] You're not crazy,

[02:33:23] but let's start.

[02:33:27] So that,

[02:33:28] that does it for the Captain Marvel episodes.

[02:33:32] Uh,

[02:33:32] we definitely appreciate you guys hanging out.

[02:33:34] Sorry,

[02:33:35] we can't give you more,

[02:33:36] but you can't,

[02:33:39] you can't get water from a stone.

[02:33:42] Um,

[02:33:44] let's see here.

[02:33:45] Uh,

[02:33:45] Dan,

[02:33:46] what do you want to plug?

[02:33:47] Uh,

[02:33:48] I want to plug Bowie's planning.

[02:33:50] It is a podcast in which me and Eric,

[02:33:55] who has been on this show and who people on the network are probably familiar

[02:33:58] with,

[02:33:59] uh,

[02:34:00] talk about David Bowie.

[02:34:01] We're exploring the catalog in chronological order.

[02:34:06] Eric has almost no idea.

[02:34:09] Almost no idea who David Bowie is,

[02:34:11] but he knows he appreciates that song called less let's dance.

[02:34:15] And,

[02:34:16] uh,

[02:34:16] I know way too much and love David Bowie dearly as we discussed.

[02:34:22] And,

[02:34:23] you know,

[02:34:24] it's a very straightforward conversation,

[02:34:26] just like you can always expect from us.

[02:34:28] Um,

[02:34:30] I,

[02:34:31] I think what I,

[02:34:32] the way I explain it to people is if you want to hear a podcast where I love

[02:34:37] something and Eric doesn't know much about that thing,

[02:34:41] you're in for a treat.

[02:34:43] Nice.

[02:34:44] Cause that's a real reversal on both.

[02:34:46] Uh,

[02:34:51] let's see here.

[02:34:52] What else do we have?

[02:34:54] So,

[02:34:55] uh,

[02:34:55] listen to all the shows on the network,

[02:34:57] Dan,

[02:34:57] you can hear Dan on scraping the vault as well as the Supreme resort.

[02:35:03] Um,

[02:35:03] go listen to,

[02:35:05] uh,

[02:35:06] the,

[02:35:07] bantha boys,

[02:35:08] I guess they're still putting out podcasts,

[02:35:11] milk,

[02:35:12] bulk lemonade around the corner,

[02:35:13] about the milk,

[02:35:14] uh,

[02:35:16] the next flagship show.

[02:35:18] I will actually be on the next flagship show.

[02:35:20] I'm doing the spooky stories,

[02:35:22] uh,

[02:35:23] episode.

[02:35:23] So got a spooky story that's Marvel themed coming up there.

[02:35:28] Uh,

[02:35:31] also ban,

[02:35:32] uh,

[02:35:32] not bantha boys,

[02:35:33] uh,

[02:35:34] boyna vista boys.

[02:35:35] Um,

[02:35:37] it's,

[02:35:38] uh,

[02:35:39] Jason and,

[02:35:41] uh,

[02:35:42] forget the other guy's name.

[02:35:43] Uh,

[02:35:44] they,

[02:35:45] they're doing the Buena Vista,

[02:35:47] like live action,

[02:35:48] Disney movies.

[02:35:49] it's,

[02:35:50] it's,

[02:35:51] it's pretty fun show.

[02:35:51] If you,

[02:35:52] if you like like movie breakdowns like this,

[02:35:54] it's same,

[02:35:54] same sort of thing,

[02:35:56] just a different target.

[02:35:58] Um,

[02:36:00] check us out on our social medias,

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[02:36:03] You can find,

[02:36:05] uh,

[02:36:05] though,

[02:36:06] depending on the outcome of today,

[02:36:07] we may or may not delete our true social account.

[02:36:11] Um,

[02:36:13] I just got verified.

[02:36:15] Coming back.

[02:36:17] I was going to say,

[02:36:18] I just got verified on true social.

[02:36:19] What are you doing to me?

[02:36:22] join us on the ears up discord.

[02:36:24] I'm pretty active there.

[02:36:25] I do want to give a shout out to,

[02:36:27] uh,

[02:36:28] a listener.

[02:36:28] I,

[02:36:29] I interacted with a listener recently,

[02:36:31] Thompson.

[02:36:31] Uh,

[02:36:32] he,

[02:36:33] he's,

[02:36:33] uh,

[02:36:34] he's been listening to us,

[02:36:35] called us out,

[02:36:36] uh,

[02:36:36] actually on a different discord.

[02:36:37] I'm on.

[02:36:38] So,

[02:36:39] shout out to Thompson.

[02:36:40] Thanks for listening.

[02:36:42] Um,

[02:36:43] and join us next time where puny pod will return with special guest,

[02:36:49] Eric on Avengers end game.

[02:36:53] Uh,

[02:37:20] so we have two,

[02:37:22] uh,

[02:37:24] credit scenes,

[02:37:25] one mid credit,

[02:37:26] one post credit.

[02:37:28] Um,

[02:37:29] so the mid credit scene,

[02:37:31] we see a pager activated,

[02:37:34] uh,

[02:37:36] the,

[02:37:36] that fury activated from Avengers,

[02:37:39] which we saw him get in this movie.

[02:37:41] It's been 28 years since we last saw captain Marvel.

[02:37:45] We are now current time,

[02:37:47] actually really current time.

[02:37:48] That's weird to think.

[02:37:50] Uh,

[02:37:50] half,

[02:37:51] why was,

[02:37:52] why is there not 2024 music?

[02:37:56] Half of earth's population has been wiped out because of Thanos is snap.

[02:38:01] Steve Rogers still with his beautiful beard,

[02:38:03] Natasha Romanoff,

[02:38:05] Bruce banner,

[02:38:06] and James Rhodes have found the modified pager where fury was last seen,

[02:38:10] uh,

[02:38:11] before his disappearance.

[02:38:12] Um,

[02:38:13] they couldn't find where it was broadcasting to nor whom.

[02:38:16] Uh,

[02:38:17] but suddenly it shut off.

[02:38:18] Natasha prepares to look for answers and she turns around to see Carol Danvers standing right behind her with the burning question.

[02:38:26] Who am I talking to?

[02:38:27] I mean,

[02:38:28] where's fury?

[02:38:32] What year is this?

[02:38:34] I don't hear any music and I'm not at a blockbuster.

[02:38:37] Well,

[02:38:38] in the,

[02:38:38] the fantastic part of the,

[02:38:39] and then it,

[02:38:40] the screen cuts to black,

[02:38:41] you see captain Marvel say,

[02:38:43] or you see it come up and say,

[02:38:45] captain Marvel will return in Avengers end game.

[02:38:48] Um,

[02:38:48] um,

[02:38:49] but the weird part about this is,

[02:38:50] is Brie Larson recorded this like in a green booth,

[02:38:54] essentially.

[02:38:55] Oh,

[02:38:55] wow.

[02:38:56] Understanding.

[02:38:57] She has no idea who she's talking to.

[02:38:59] Is she allergic to,

[02:39:00] uh,

[02:39:01] Steve Rogers?

[02:39:02] She was allergic to Thor.

[02:39:04] Very weird.

[02:39:05] Um,

[02:39:07] yeah,

[02:39:07] with this scene was directed by the Russo brothers.

[02:39:10] It was,

[02:39:10] Marvel was so paranoid for spoilers that like,

[02:39:13] she basically recorded it by herself.

[02:39:16] The,

[02:39:16] the crew couldn't even tell her to whom she was speaking.

[02:39:18] So then she was digitally inserted into the scene afterwards.

[02:39:22] Um,

[02:39:24] it is a funny comment.

[02:39:26] Like she comes in,

[02:39:27] she's thinking nineties and she's just like,

[02:39:30] what if I drop in like a nineties reference here?

[02:39:33] Like,

[02:39:34] Hey,

[02:39:34] let's go rollerblading.

[02:39:35] Yo,

[02:39:36] Kiro Taco Bell.

[02:39:37] Right.

[02:39:38] Um,

[02:39:39] but,

[02:39:39] but she basically got a redacted script page with everything blacked out

[02:39:42] except for her one line.

[02:39:43] And that's all she got to read.

[02:39:45] That's why.

[02:39:45] Did you guys watch that sneak block on Nickelodeon last year?

[02:39:48] Last night.

[02:39:52] I'm going to get them all out.

[02:39:54] Then we jump out to the last end credit scene where we see,

[02:39:59] uh,

[02:40:00] the flerken goose,

[02:40:02] uh,

[02:40:04] coughing up a hairball in the shape of a Tesseract.

[02:40:09] And if the camera would have stayed on him longer,

[02:40:13] he would have coughed up a Skechers energy shoe or possibly a virtual boy.

[02:40:20] Um,

[02:40:23] or maybe some zoo books,

[02:40:25] animal magazines.

[02:40:26] Ooh,

[02:40:28] that's a good one.

[02:40:29] And a phone cord that stretched across the room.

[02:40:32] Oh yeah.

[02:40:33] Uh,

[02:40:34] and possibly a collection of sports illustrated for kids cards.

[02:40:39] Oh,

[02:40:41] well fans,

[02:40:42] I hope that you guys enjoyed this nineties fest.

[02:40:45] Uh,

[02:40:46] we thank Dan for everything he brought to this episode.

[02:40:50] Thank you.

[02:40:51] Thanks for having me.

[02:40:52] Thank you for being here.

[02:40:53] So,

[02:40:54] all right guys,

[02:40:55] we will see you on the next one.

[02:40:57] Enough said.