Puny Pod | Phase 3 Episode 5 - Thor: Ragnarok

[00:00:00] Welcome to Puny Pod, the podcast that partens you from life. Welcome to Puny Pod everyone. We are the Marvel Fandom Podcast where we rewatch the MCU with the release order. We release those here on the first of the month, first Tuesday of the month every month.

[00:00:43] And then mid month sometime we will also come at you with some Marvel news in what would call our monthly view goal. My name is Ryan and my friend from work, if you want to call this podcast work, is David. David?

[00:00:58] It's most definitely work but I'm not sure. I'm seven in spades morning where we couldn't get back together technically. Oh no worries, no worries. We're playing with new audio things today folks.

[00:01:10] So if the sound is a little bit weird, please bear with us. I got new soundboard on my side and David's headphones were given us some fits. If anything sounds weird, I apologize. I'll try and clean it up and post but yeah, here we are.

[00:01:27] Before we get too far into this David, I do have a past show correction. So we were talking about during our Spider-Man homecoming episode. We were talking about most expensive comics ever so. And I think you had mentioned that there was an amazing Spider-Man in 2021.

[00:01:53] I want to say from memory for like 3.6 million, something along those lines. So that was the reigning champion right up until April of 2024. So this year literally like probably days before we recorded this sale happened.

[00:02:15] And the issue or the issue of action comics, I forget which number it is but the famous introduction of Superman went for 6.1 million dollars. Damn nerds have a lot of money. And we too could have a lot of money if you join our Patreon listener.

[00:02:45] We're not gonna, we're not gonna have that we'll never have that kind of patreon. That's fine. That's fine. Good on whoever got that action comic. I think it's actually a comment number one.

[00:02:54] Yeah, that's a lot of scratch and things those DC guys for always having the expensive ones. That's all right. Next time, save our pennies. Stop buying the stop buying our milk latte and stop our avocado toast.

[00:03:19] Anyway, David we are here not to talk about how to save money and you know free summer camps and things. Instead we are here to discuss the probably what I would say is one of my favorite spoiler alert for way later in the episode.

[00:03:41] MCU movies which is Thor Ragnarok. And David before I get you set off and go in on your production details, I do want to also give the heads up to the listener.

[00:03:53] We have started to break these into two parts and I think we'll carry on that tradition today regardless of how long maybe it will be a 15 minute part in the two hour part for the second part. But first part here will be our production details.

[00:04:08] No comics because this is not a introductory movie so we won't do a comics breakdown. That sort of thing will do it in or first kind of in the movie, but we're gonna do the production details here.

[00:04:21] Then we'll break it off, we'll go off to part two part two is where we will break down the actual movie. So with that all be in said, David give us your production details. Sure, Thor Ragnarok released November 3rd 2017.

[00:04:38] Six months after Guardians of Galaxy Volume 2, four months after Spiderman homecoming. And first time having three MCU films in the same year and I think we're pretty spoiled. It comparison these days. Yeah. Phase 3 5th installment this is movie number 17.

[00:04:56] The events of Ragnarok for four years after Thor Ragnarok World, two years after the events of Avengers age of Ultron. And around same time as the war and Spiderman homecoming which all happen kind of on top of each other at the same time phase 3. Two hours 10 minutes long.

[00:05:14] The initial version was two hours 40 minutes, but by the time we shoot to the film we're completed, film had been cut down to about 90 minutes.

[00:05:23] With that expected to increase later with newly film scenes, however after the film's 2017 Comic-Con panel was decided to add back a lot of jokes that had been removed. Thank goodness. Good choice. With the final run time of two hours 10 minutes production budget. Spiderman a lot of money.

[00:05:40] The Thor from Thor the Dark World to Ragnarok, the production budget's gone from 150 to 170 to 180. Opening weekend again, Thor was 65 million Dark World was a little bit more at 68 million. Ragnarok basically doubled that 123 million. Nice. Domestic Rose from Thor at 181 Dark World to 06. Direct Domestic Rose, Ragnarok 315.

[00:06:03] World like Rose, we went from 440 million to 4 up to 850 million for Thor. Ragnarok it made $650 million in 10 days. That's wild. That's wild money. That's a little silly on the worldwide side. It is close. It was number 8 2017, right behind Guardians of mine too, ahead of Xan Lang 2.

[00:06:32] That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. I think it's a big China career. Ragnarok, Guardians of mine to Spiderman Homecoming, grows 2.6 billion dollars in 2017. It's the number 15 we have all time in the MCU behind Black Panther will count forever and ahead of Guardians of 3.

[00:06:56] You could buy a lot of comics with that. That's like a lot of Superman number one. That's how we catch box off from now. This is 205 Superman's number one. Critics gave it as 93% as compared to Dark World 66%. Audits is 87% Dark World. It's a very well received.

[00:07:25] It's not a spoiler. Say that we both really enjoyed this movie. It is the highest rate of Thor movie. And this was the second highest rate of the MCU movie to date behind Iron Man. Not everyone loved it though. Going for the tradition.

[00:07:40] One star review off of Amazon. Chaz Jones said this was just the worst Thor movie ever conceived. Let alone made. It was worse than any Thor comic written. And that's really bad. This movie demonstrates anything that demonstrates Stanley has full onset to mention to her. Oh, yes.

[00:07:56] And most 20 minutes of the entire film was worth watching. The director was joke and a bad joke at that. So no wonder he directed one of the worst films ever made of any genre. The story was awful.

[00:08:06] The screenplay he Morris never was ever more disappointed by a film. Wow, Chaz. Chaz is not feeling it. The director Alan Alentea Thor Garpold like not to return, but he was very gracious about it. Quote the Marvel experience was particularly wrenching because I was sort of given absolute

[00:08:24] three of them all we were shooting and then a post-production and turned into a different movie. So that is something I hope never to repeat and don't wish upon anyone else. Oh, he's so kind. It's so highly of his experience. You guys. Alan's yellow reviews are not fantastic.

[00:08:39] Rubin Flasher, Rob Letterman, Ross and Marshall, Thurber Warrock. The director, Dr. Drex, Latter 2, also Candidates, Director, Ant-Man. Marvel presented the perspective directors with ten different ideas that we had for the movie.

[00:08:55] He says, why do you ask them to come back with a clear picture of what the film should be? Techway TD created a sizzle reel for the tone and some joke stuff using clips from other films including Big Trouble O'Lotina, one of my favorites.

[00:09:06] And it was an inspiration for Thor's character in this film. And Marvel doesn't really love the practice of these old sizzle reel films, but they thought his reel was amazing. And so he agreed to direct a film, Tyco at the time, interesting laugh was had no desire

[00:09:25] to do anything like this. But he said, you know what? I know interest to do one of these films that wasn't on my plan for my career as an author. But I was poor and I just had a second child that I knew. What would be great?

[00:09:36] This would be great how I obtained a few of those children. You took funny dude. I actually really enjoyed researching this movie just because like, you had to watch Tyco do interviews and stuff and he's a funny guy. Yeah. Really enjoyable to watch.

[00:09:51] You could tell in this film that he over, like we'll get into the movie, but like overlays allows characters to improv really really imbued it with a lot of humor and he himself is very funny rather than in some films we see where

[00:10:07] the director may not have sense of humor so they just let the actors do their thing. I think you can definitely tell like the inspiration comes from him. Absolutely. So January 2014, Marvel announced that Christopher Yos

[00:10:17] who did Thor Darko all the Craig Kyle would co-write the movie and delivered an All-line by July 2014 and February 2015, the original release date was pushback. Originally it was July 28th and it was pushback to November. Tyco with TB was on board in 2015 and 2016 in January.

[00:10:36] He was working on the script, quote, a little bit mainly adding humor to the screenplay and Eric Pearson joined the project to rewrite the screenplay as well. Pearson had done a lot of the Marvel one shots so he did the consultant,

[00:10:48] a funny thing happened with a Thor's hammer, item 47, agent Carter. He did some re-rides for like, anti-man, finnny worn endgame so he's been around the block. He felt joining presented many challenges as a quote so many puzzle pieces already there,

[00:11:04] including his having blanched his hella and including Hulk, Val Korean Scourge. Then he was asked to kind of reassemble it. So despite all that writing, YTD claimed that 80% of the dialogue in her eyes

[00:11:17] in order to create a very loose and collaborative loop among the cast as an attempt to replicate the tone and sensibility from the prior films. So the cast, latter turning folks. Chris Hemsworth Tom Hiddleston, Tessa Thompson, all reprised at Rolls, K- blanched his new as hella.

[00:11:33] She accepted the role, it's a pleaser children, who are Marvel comic fans and her eldest son suggested to shake the role of hella because quoted what could be a career boost. Like, okay, I can't plan to continue to think I career boost.

[00:11:48] Mark Rufflow is Bruce Banner, Carl Orbin, appears as Scourge, Jeff Goldblum, as the Grandmaster, Tykwatt TV as Cored. And then we see a few of the familiar faces in Rousel but time goals that Hopkins comes back.

[00:12:04] Odin, we have Rachel House as Topaz, Clancy Brown as the voice of the surter and St. Murdoch as the voice of MAKE. The Warr 3 are in here for like... All of like two seconds. Odd absurdly low amount of things. The total screen time is one minute, nine seconds.

[00:12:27] Yeah, I was like watching it literally the thought that went through my mind was, is it fair that I pick his beard here? I'm not too goddening. It seems almost like a cheat.

[00:12:38] But yeah, from 11 minutes down to like the lower minute and then we had a bunch of cameos. And this is pretty fun. So Stanley was a space barber. Scourge Hansen as Natasha, Luke Hemsworth as actor 4 for a funny Sam Diel's actor Odin.

[00:12:52] Charlotte Nakedau is actor Siff, Gabby Cardon as actor James Foster and then it It comes back, appears, even strange. Plus Matt Damon as actor Loki. The other things about the cast, so a bunch of cat ward winners, people and shit Hopkins,

[00:13:18] Matt Damon, tech of ITD, bunch of nominees, test the Thompson this build after Jeff Goldblum to Spiderman character having much more screen time. And this comes about as the top build cast is listed alphabetically sandwich between Thor Star Warts, and then Hittleston and the lucrative in starring co-stars.

[00:13:40] So a lot of key actors in this tech way TV is from New Zealand, Rachel House, Come Holloway, Sanneal. And then we have some Westworld actors. Anthony Hopkins, test Thompson, Luke Hemsworth, kind of like, that's been in this movie.

[00:13:56] So alternate casting, Charlie Stern was considered before Kate Plenchett. I could see that. I think she would be good. She would go on to play Clea in Dr. Strange, in multiple first medists. Lupita Nguongo auditioned for the role of Alpray.

[00:14:11] Yeah, it's what it got on to play Nakeda in Black Panther. Lady Siff was playing the return, but Jamie's Alexander's commitment to blind spot in front of him appearing and take you on to the one of John C. Rattler's

[00:14:24] role as a good, quite fit in. Couldn't quite fit in, but it's hinted when they mentioned that are like later in film. So this is the only Marvel studios moved to have three different composers for each movie.

[00:14:45] So Packed the Duel scored Thor, Brian Taylor scored Thor Garcroll, Mark Mothersbott scored this movie. Similarly to Guardians of Galaxy II, YTD said it but if some analogously last time was Freddie Mercury, but he said it was still alive. He would fast queen to do

[00:15:06] Ragnarok score since Flash scored was a huge influence on the movie. And that is the breakdown. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The funny thing with the cast is there's like all these pairs of people who had worked together before, right?

[00:15:27] So Sam Neal and Jeff Goldblum Jurassic Park, Carl Urban and Kate Blanchette in Lord of the Rings, Carl Urban and Chris Hemsworth in the new Star Trek series or not series, but movies rather. So it's kind of funny, it's all of nerd dumb and it's all these pairs.

[00:15:53] It's not just one guy from somewhere, right? These pairs that stood out to me while watching it. It was like, oh yeah, that's you know, Scourge and Hella hanging out is like the hero hero in the elves hanging out. Oh, this friend for my other job. Exactly exactly.

[00:16:14] All right, David. Well, thank you for those awesome production details. Let's go ahead and let's set the stage some. So to start off, David, what was your first viewing of this like? What do you remember about going into this movie where you excited when it was

[00:16:31] announced what were you at for that one? I was kind of, you know, I was looking forward to it but I can't say I was quite as eager for some as some of the other properties.

[00:16:45] Thor Dark World left a really bad taste in my mouth and I'm watching it. And so we've had a few palate cleanser movies since then, but you know, I never felt like the Thor character was quite 100% right.

[00:17:00] You know, knowing that there's a lot of discontent in the last film. She wasn't quite sure where they were going to go with it. So but knowing that it was going to have Thor Hulk and now knowing what I know

[00:17:10] why they were elsewhere and not around during civil war like that made you know, that add to a more context. So I was looking forward to it, but it wasn't like, man, I can't wait to see this thing. This is going to be my top five movies.

[00:17:26] I was pretty excited. I was pretty plugged in to things. So I remember hearing that like, Tycoa T.T. was on board with it and I was somewhat familiar with Tyco's work through like what we do in the shadows.

[00:17:45] And so really, really excited for him to kind of do his take on Thor. Being somewhat frequent comic reader of Thor. I was excited that we were going the the Galactic route where he is a space alien

[00:18:06] at the end of the day and like it moving away a little bit from the fantasy elements. I was kind of excited to see what that would do on the big screen. You know, in hindsight maybe I would like to spend a little bit more time

[00:18:22] in the fantasy realm but moving into a little bit more sci-fi feel rather than fantasy feel was kind of exciting. I think the trailer set the tone of this movie pretty well. It was going to be a little bit more humorous, a little bit more silly.

[00:18:43] So I was excited for that. I'm a big fan of like comedy in general. That's kind of where my interest lie when it comes to movies like if I'm defaulting to a movie it's going to be a funny one.

[00:18:57] So, so kind of excited for that piece of it. I was going to say I'd be off put if you said, you know, I don't really like comedy. I don't like laughing. Right? Right?

[00:19:10] But in the context of superhero movies and other ones like some people don't love comedy. Some people like that's really boring version of Thor that we've seen in prior for part of movies. Yeah. Well, and that's what you look at the kind of movies over the time, right?

[00:19:31] The superhero movies over the time and you have like suicide squad the first time and Guardians 2 and all that going on kind of really diverting to a very funny place. Well, on the other side you have like the DC universe which is really dark and

[00:19:52] lacks a lot of comedy. You have X men days of future past and like the time traveling X men pieces going on at the same time that's kind of diverting over that way.

[00:20:05] Like somewhere in here also Deadpool came out so that's again, that's over on the comedy side of things. And so I think you saw kind of the you could watch in real time as we look back at it.

[00:20:21] You could have watched in real time as the comedic, the more comedic side of superhero movies kind of started to take over pretty strongly at this point.

[00:20:33] On that point going back on rewatch I think the thing because it was such a refreshing movie and it was very funny. I wanted to see if the humor like overtakes the script.

[00:20:49] You know, basically like do I like this movie because it's funny and it's great to look at or does it overpower or does it just like supplement the action and the story?

[00:21:04] How about you? Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, on rewatch I was really excited to get to this one. I am a big fan of this movie. I haven't watched it in a while. It's be honest. So I was excited to get back to it.

[00:21:23] My wife actually is not a big fan of this movie. She's not a big fan of kind of where Thor goes from here. It's a little bit of like the silliness and stuff just doesn't click for her.

[00:21:38] So I was also really excited to watch it with her and like, hey let's check this out right let's return to this. Let's try and watch it with fresh eyes and so I was really excited to get to this one on rewatch.

[00:21:55] Anything else on your rewatch that you were excited about? Just like how it leads up to infinity war. Just the which we'll get into but I wanted it really, you know just enjoy it for it's

[00:22:12] You know just for the movie itself and you know like you said I really enjoyed this film but I've been a minutes since I'd seen it. So it was kind of fun to just like, you know it's like the toy you haven't played with for a while.

[00:22:23] Oh man, I really like this game. Why don't we play some more often? Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Sorry I was like trying to double check myself on like when things came out and by the way everybody this this came out the same year is just as

[00:22:43] So talk about a very funny movie. Not at all. It's terrible movie.

[00:22:52] I do think it's just a side note. I do think that I did do think the dark night to a certain extent might have ruined DC because every property after that had to be very light dark and intense and like Everyone. Yeah, absolutely.

[00:23:07] All right. Well, we are we are cooking right along. So let's go ahead. Let's jump into this movie. So we start two years after the Battle of Sikovia. If I'm Thor trapped in a cage in the realm of Musulheim. Musuh.

[00:23:29] Pernunciation fans, this is going to be a fun one for you. Thor says, I know what you're thinking. Oh no, what was in a cage? How did this happen? Well, sometimes you get captured and then you get captured just to get a straight answer out of something.

[00:23:50] It's a long story. Basically I'm a bit of a hero. See, I've spent time on earth for the record. I saved the planet a couple times. Then I went searching through the cosmos for a couple of magical colorful infinity stone things but I couldn't find it.

[00:24:07] That's when I came across the path of death and destruction which led me all the way here to this cage where I met you. And then he looks at this skeleton who's in the cage whose jaw literally drops.

[00:24:22] Thor is in chains and asks the skeleton, how much longer do you think we'll be here before the bottom of the cage collapses? And he falls down to just above the bottom of the fiery cavern.

[00:24:33] We find out that Thor is being held captive by the fire demon, Surtar which leads to a very, very funny scene. The Surtar says, four, son of Odin and Thor goes, Surtar, son of a bitch!

[00:24:55] Surtar says, then you have seen Ragnarok, the fall of Azgar, the great prophecy as Thor is spinning around because of the like moment of... Hang from the end of the chain, yeah. Thor goes, hang on, hang on, I'll be back around shortly.

[00:25:15] I really feel like we're connecting here. Now, okay, so Ragnarok, tell me about it. By the way, quick note on Surtar, Surtar is a creature of myth. He's also in the comics as with most North myths, actually a lot of myths, beyondists.

[00:25:36] He was introduced in journey into mystery number 97, August of 1963 by Stanley and Jack Kirby. He's a fairly major Thor villain, you know, just like his mythical counterpart, he drives the Azgardi in his crazy.

[00:25:59] Surtar says Odin is no longer on Azgard and it is defenseless, and that when his crown is reunited with the eternal flame, he will be his biggest amount in, and lay ways to Azgard.

[00:26:14] However, Surtar's foretelling of destruction of Azgard is interrupted yet again as Thor spins back around and is facing away from him. Thor finally wheels his way back around and asks, where his crown is, and Thor points to his head. This is my crown, the source of my power.

[00:26:37] Oh, that's your crown, I thought it was a big eyebrow. It's a crown! Anyway, it sounds like all I have to do is stop Ragnar, just rip that thing off your head.

[00:26:46] But Ragnarok has already begun, you cannot stop it, I am Azgard's doom, and so are you, all will suffer. Oh, that's intense. You know, to be honest, seeing you grow really big and set far to planet would be quite the spectacle.

[00:27:03] But it looks like I have to choose option B, where at Bustide of these chains knock that tear off your head and stash you away as Garth's fault. Oh, it's great, Axon's work there, Ragnarok. Oh, yeah, because that's what heroes do. Thank God.

[00:27:21] Thor summons Mionor and breaks free of the chains, and proceeds to lay waste to CERDERS minions in a great CGI battle as in the background we hear Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song, you know, the AAAAAAAA. So it's so...

[00:27:40] I can't believe they haven't used Immigrant Song to this point in the former movies. It's one of my favorite songs of all time, but then also it's steeped in Norse mythology.

[00:27:54] I was thinking at this moment, yeah, it's a very... the reasons in Ragnarok, especially when we see it later on the movie, like the Immigrant and, you know, see the people and then when it's played again.

[00:28:05] But I was trying to think, is this today like the best song with the scenery? Like, that we've seen in the MCU. I mean, this has been some great movies and music in the... in the Guardians movies, but me every time I hear it, I'm like so pumped.

[00:28:23] Yeah, yep. Yeah, it's a pretty good one. I'm trying to think outside of Guardians, which is kind of unfair to consider, right? Because Guardians' music is part of the movie where this is more of like a...

[00:28:35] And also, and the only other thing that comes to mind is like Tony Stark and his playlists between ACDC when he shows up in Germany and Avengers or when he's listening to suicidal tendencies in the garage. But those are kind of the ones that come to mind.

[00:28:58] So now that we've heard about Chekov's crown and we know that, you know, Serder's crown is gonna be our problem. Now we're not gonna see it again this movie. Just like very more now. Oh, funnought. Oh wait for it. Yep, that was especially good.

[00:29:21] You promised me to deliver it. I appreciate it. The one thing I would note, just the first Thor movie begins, Thor is in video and hi. I'm a man from France, Lauffie and Fights a lot of Yotans and a giant Yotan hi monster.

[00:29:34] And this movie similarly kind of starts with Thor on, Musphahelm, confronting Serder, fighting, you know, a big love monster in Musphalers. And so then the first movie ends with the discharge, my frost and this one, well we will get there in an evening.

[00:29:52] That's true, that's true. It is a really good like full circle and hot versus cold kind of situation. So Thor does defeat Serder and takes the crown, hoping you would ever the Ragnarok prophecy.

[00:30:06] Thor secures the crown using a chain and calls Hymdalt to quickly open the by-frost so he can return to Asgard. Except, well back on Asgard, we don't have Hymdalt. Instead the by-frost is being monitored by Scourge, who is chatting up attractive Oscardian females,

[00:30:26] Ragn about the guns he obtained on mid-guard in Texas. Meanwhile Thor is fighting a fire dragon which is unable to secure in place using the weight of meal in her. Scourge, just trying to give his bequeat.

[00:30:45] By the way, Scourge's first appearance in the comics was journey into mystery number 103, February of 1964, Stanley Jack Kirby. He in the comics is the illegitimate son of a storm giant and an Asgardian, and he is most commonly amignant of the villain, the enchantress.

[00:31:06] Very similar story line to how he helps Hela here but different characters. Thor calls for Hymdalt again, but he's nowhere to be found. Fortunately for Thor, Scourge takes a break from using his Sheikweight, which this is actually a really fun cameo.

[00:31:27] This was probably one of my favorite bits to come across in the research for this. This Sheikweight specifically the one that we were using as a prop here.

[00:31:37] Tycoa TT was bored on the set of Green Lantern, so he was in the movie The Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern movie, the really awful one.

[00:31:48] He was Ryan Reynolds's best friend and he was sitting in his trailer, bored out of his mind, so he decided he was going to buy everything he could find on TV. Just literally everything that was on Made for TV.

[00:32:03] And so he ends up one of the things he bought was the Sheikweight and he had it shipped to where they were filming this scene specifically, so he could include the Sheikweight in the scene. That's too funny.

[00:32:21] So Scourge takes a break from working out his arms and opens the by-frost in time to save Thor, closing it in time to decaptate the dragon, which slides across the room covering everybody in the room in sweet green dragon blood.

[00:32:40] By the way, for anybody who thinks we missed the Mester eggs, I was really hoping that pile of scourges stuff was full of Easter eggs. Twas knocked. There was nothing in there.

[00:32:51] There's a missed opportunity. The other thing I would know is right now we're at about minute 10 of the movie. And during the World Premiere Mark Rufflo was live streaming from Instagram and he forgot to end it. So accidentally broadcast everything up to the point. So good.

[00:33:07] Oh, so I love those like him and Spider-Man Tom Hiddlestick or Tom Holland. Just the words. Always. Can't keep a secret at all. Just the worst. Yep. I mean they're the best but also the worst of that. Right.

[00:33:29] So Thor, Thor returns to Asgard and learns that Hymdahl is a trader and went missing before his trial. Thor flies off towards the Asgardian palace, a scourge has to run behind him along the by-frost in order to, quote, announces arrival.

[00:33:48] Thor arrives and is confused to find a giant statue of Loki. More surprisingly he finds Odin is very much alive and enjoying a detailing of Loki's dying moments during the battle with the Dark Elves. I love this place so much. It's so good. It's so, so good.

[00:34:08] It's very cameo heavy and they're so. We see the actors and Loki actor tell me a story or tell my story Thor, I will. Loki. Build a statue for me Thor.

[00:34:28] I will build a big statue for you Loki with my helmet on but the really big Bendy Horns. Thor, I will tell father what you did here. Did here today. Loki. I did it. Do it for him. And then he dies.

[00:34:48] This is where we were talking about those cameos from yet, demon as Loki and Luke comes worth. So the third Hemmsworth brother if you will as Thor and the Sam Neal who, if you don't know that name,

[00:35:04] it's Dr. Grant from Jurassic Park where you would know him most from as Odin in this story as well. Then Thor, Thor, Greetswee, thinks his father and Odin sees him and goes, oh shit.

[00:35:27] So he realizes that something is a miss and outs Odin by throwing Mjolnir and holding, I'm using air quotes holding Odin's head aka Loki said with his hand and telling him you look, Mjolnir will stop it nothing not even your face to get back to me.

[00:35:49] I love this version of Odin played by Anthony Hopkins. The tech we TD told Anthony Hopkins that in the scene he would quote, be playing Tom Hiddleston playing you and he didn't.

[00:36:07] Anthony Hopkins said, oh okay good and he turned up like blue eyeliner and he's just so camping it's great. And this threat also by the way, the Mjolnir threat is pulled straight from Thor 359 in June of 1985 which is a part of the Walter Simonson Thor run.

[00:36:28] You'll hear me reference Walter Simonson's run a lot throughout this episode his stuff inspired a ton of things with this movie.

[00:36:39] Turns out that Loki the little trickster is alive and well having survived the battle we saw in Thor Dark World just then scourge finally arrives to announce the arrival of Thor son of Odinson. To which Loki replies, you had one job just one. So good. So so good.

[00:37:07] Early on by the way at this point in time, we know what the we know what the theme is going to be and this one's going to be a comedic banger.

[00:37:15] Oh absolutely absolutely yeah this one the the tone is set here we know this is going to be super funny but not silly funny it it's like.

[00:37:27] That's what I noticed and and we'll probably we'll talk about this a little bit more at the end but it's still got a lot of heart with even though it's very funny there's still a lot of like.

[00:37:38] Oh to it I would say yeah yeah it's not me and something dumb and dumb or kind of all the way right sorry chas I disagree with your. Oh chas.

[00:37:52] So then you know we learn that Loki has taken over as guard after he deposed Odin and that Loki stranded Odin on midguard happierly fathers day Odin. Four forces Loki to accompany him to earth specifically to New York City to return to the shitty acres retirement facility.

[00:38:15] Uh yes the same shady acres that you may have seen in other movies and TV shows. Where Loki left Odin but it's being demolished. Loki I left him right here Thor. Meant on the pavement outside or actually in the building currently being demolished Loki.

[00:38:35] How was I supposed to know I can't see the future I'm not a witch Thor while you're dressed like one.

[00:38:43] I'm sick burn Thor snaps a photo with some fans who says that she's sorry that Jane dumped him and he tells her it was a contractual thing and that Natalie Portman hates the MCU. No, he tells her that it was a mutual dumping.

[00:39:04] We see a familiar portal start to open beneath Loki which causes him to disappear. All that remains is a business card which reads 177 A. Bleager Street. Which is the real New York City address of Roy Thomas who was one of the writers of Doctor Strange.

[00:39:28] And at this point in time I think Natalie Portman I mean she was out on the sheet already now inside I'm not doing anymore these movies. Right. Yeah, she was I think she'd made some comments about them being beneath her or something along with lines.

[00:39:42] Yeah, one of the rare on that last yeah I was going to say one of the rare. Um actors or creatives that like kind of badmouth the model process it actually came back to it.

[00:39:55] Yeah, yeah it's like her and Chris Evans are about the only two that come to mind immediately that kind of came back after disagreeing. Yeah. Uh, Thor is now searching for both Loki and Odin. He arrives at the inner sanctum of one doctor Steven Strange.

[00:40:18] Thor holds up his umbrella in his defense before placing it down. This is a fun little homage to the way that in the comics when Thor had his alter his human alter ego don Blake or Donald Blake. Uh, who we saw referenced actually in the first Thor movie.

[00:40:40] He had a walking stick which he disguised mellonor as so he could kind of hide his his identity which is interesting I was thinking about that as I came across this little Easter egg. They never really used Thor's like secret identity in the these movies at all.

[00:40:58] Now they completely went away from it. They you know like said there's a lot to Blake in the first movie but yeah he's just Thor right he's not done on the walking stick that he hangs on the ground turned to the Thor and stuff. Yeah.

[00:41:11] They have a seat and Strange offers Thor a magic beer which magically refills itself. Dr. Strange tells Thor that he keeps a list of individuals from other realms that may be a threat to Earth. Strange your adopted brother Loki is one of those beings Thor.

[00:41:27] He's a worthy inclusion. No fans this is or yes fan yes or no yes we've already talked about this scene it is the after credits scene from Dr. Strange. I want to uh, a beer that refills itself how do I get one of those?

[00:41:44] Yeah the only catch is he had to trade it for the tea that would have made him comfortable through all the teleport kitchens.

[00:41:52] The two things that I liked in this scene or two things to know one is that this is what he's wearing is Trishy yellow gloves that you see in the comics which is tip which is you know really kind of a tribute and then on the part with Thor knocks over the little metallic arrow heads every single time.

[00:42:10] You know recently that's been just cracks me up. Yeah there's so many of those just little silly things like and at the end of this scene there's another one of them here so.

[00:42:22] Strange isn't stoked that Thor brought Loki who nearly destroyed man hat in the years before to earth. But agrees to lead them to Odin and exchange for them all leaving the planet immediately thereafter.

[00:42:36] Thor summons Bielner which is disguised as a umbrella and you hear him just you hear it crashing through the entire synced up sync to them just talking stuff just wrecking stuff.

[00:42:49] Thor apologizes for the for the damage caused strange then opens a portal for Loki who has been following for 30 minutes. And then Thor forces them through another portal which moves them which takes Loki and Thor to Norway. Toonspirk Norway in fact.

[00:43:11] Odin is found standing alone on a cliff overlooking the sea in Norway. Sadly Odin is dying and he tells he tells Thor and Loki that his imminent passing will bring about Ragnarok. With his dying breath Odin explains that Thor and Loki actually have an older sister.

[00:43:32] Hella the goddess of death. During their conquest of the nine realms hella was the leader of Odin's army. So one interesting thing to note is that Odin, anything happens in the director from dark world in Elentea.

[00:43:51] So Loki had actually killed and replaced Odin at the end of dark world. And so by Tiki, Taka White to the other is ignored this and revealed that Odin was alive and all right.

[00:44:02] So that was to make I think Loki a little bit more sympathetic than if he'd like killed him off. And in the original version of the script abandoned him without his memories on the streets of New York to scratch out his living as a homeless person.

[00:44:13] There's actually deleted scene where they find him in an alleyway and he doesn't even know who he is. Yeah. Well, and in the original trailers too, the fight between Thor and Hella that's literally about to happen.

[00:44:29] That all happens in a city skate. So you see like the explosion of the older that's about to happen here. You see that happen in a city skate which you can see that they very much shifted where things were going at something.

[00:44:51] Once the conquest was complete, however, hella realizing Hella's appetite for conquest and domination was insatiable. Odin had his dangerous daughter imprisoned in another dimension and struck her name from Asgard's history.

[00:45:06] Unfortunately, his life force is the only thing keeping her away. So once he's gone, Hello will be freed from her prison.

[00:45:14] Thor tells him that they can stop him, stop her together. But Odin tells them that he's on a different path to found. He says, I love you my sons and tells them to remember this place home before he dies and his fiery members disappear suspiciously looking like a Phoenix.

[00:45:36] So Odin's been dead for all of like two minutes before Hella appears before Thor and Loki. They have a brief family reunion before she tells them to kneel before their queen setting Loki off into a hey, that's my line type of moment.

[00:45:54] Thor throws his hammer at Hella who catches it with her hand. He says that's not possible before she says darling you have no idea what's possible and crushes me on her into pieces.

[00:46:07] Tough one happy nice to meet you sister happy family reunion and then tough taper Thor loses his hammer and his dad like one day. Yeah, she's a shave the grandpa quail like oh yeah.

[00:46:23] Who had the worst day. Oh, grandpa quail. Yeah, yes, it's people. Yeah, lose a hammer like it plus Odin's like millions of years old like that's gonna happen.

[00:46:34] He had a good run when um, I think you mentioned that when the Thor the Loki line from Avengers like Neil before me, which he says to the crowd in Stoocard.

[00:46:47] The question I have for you and this is just more theoretical. So she's been banished by Odin for her actions. She's technically and worthy.

[00:46:57] Do you think that is your reason why she can wield me older now or did the enchantment preventing me older for being wielded by those who aren't worthy where off like I don't know why she's able to stop me older.

[00:47:11] I don't know if you had a theory. Yeah, my own working theory is that it's not worthiness necessarily and it's not necessarily wielding it.

[00:47:20] It's more like power to stop it right and we have conflated the two over and over and over throughout the movies right because we see like Thor use it to like stop people from moving and that's where thing and the one would argue that's also not.

[00:47:37] It's not being wielded by those people. But I think this is more hella is just such a powerful entity that she's reaching out and grabbing this hammer and and not necessarily overriding in

[00:47:53] Enchantments so much is just like that's just how powerful she is. She's more powerful than anything they have. Okay, I'll buy it. And I should also mention here. Hello. Yes, also part of Norse myth.

[00:48:10] But comic book characters. Well, introduced journey into mystery number one or two. So literally the issue right before. Scourge. January 1964 Lee and Kirby paired up on that one. Recently as recent as I think it was like 2022 maybe 23 maybe.

[00:48:30] They actually dove into her backstory a little bit more and it got real weird. She is a artificial infinity stone that the all father at the time had commissioned that turned itself into a baby.

[00:48:48] When it was being threatened and then the people who were caring for it time traveled and dropped it off with Loki for Loki to take care of. Hello, it's weird drugs are an amazing thing people.

[00:49:09] The only thing I would just say when hella shows up I just again, hella is an Oakland flying and I just cannot get that on my mind. The entire time watching the movie. That's hell. Good. That's fair. Yeah.

[00:49:26] So realizing they're outmatched Thor and Loki attempt to flee back to Asgard on the by frost bridge to defend their home. Hella pursues them through the by frost where she throws first Loki out of the by frost and then Thor out and gets herself back to Asgard.

[00:49:48] Once on Asgard, hella immediately like literally within seconds kills Volstag and Fandra and offers Scourge a job. At that point in time you fear of the actor and you're looking at the script. You're race, even. You're looking at the script like all right.

[00:50:04] You know, you're just kind of skipping through trying to find your lines. You're just like, man, like, do I come back at the end? Like, what do I like as this dream sequence? Is it? I got to put on this wig for like 12 seconds. Poor race, dude.

[00:50:23] I'd be pissed but you know what it's a check. I'm not going to find it. And he'll go on to do some awesome starboard stuff before.

[00:50:36] So then we see Thor crash land on Sakaar, a literal garbage plan at which is surrounded by war holes that dump an never ending cascade of garbage to the surface.

[00:50:47] Thor is met by a scavenger kind of trash tribe type of people who ask him if he's fighter or food.

[00:50:56] They once they determine he's food, they try and subdue him. He tries to summon Mueller kind of out of reflex before remembering the sister just destroyed it in the last scene. A fight breaks out and he is quickly trapped with an electrified net.

[00:51:12] Quick note here on Sakaar first introduced in the comics in incredible whole volume two number 92. February 2006, Greg Pack and Carlo Paigluian. It was the setting for the planet Hulk story arc which is a big part of what we'll talk about here. Big inspiration for this book.

[00:51:42] As the locals start to beat Thor up a slave trader called Scrapper 142 arrives in her spaceship. She claims that he's mine but it turns out that she drunk and falls off her ship into a build shying.

[00:51:59] She's probably straight in herself out and reiterates that he's mine. And if you want me, want him to go through me. When they explain they already have him she says, alright then I guess I'll go through you before she uses these cool power glove inspired controllers to

[00:52:19] activate her ships guns and kill off all the Scrappers. She subdues Thor with an obedience disc which is implant that causes pain and shocks Thor into submission so that she can take him to be sold.

[00:52:40] So I did like the when you saw that scene and you hear the line about like, you know, you go through us. Then I'll go through you my shades of gardens right? Yeah absolutely.

[00:52:54] One question I had is Thor seems pretty weak. Like the electrified neck the obedience discs like you know it seems like I don't know if electricity is at powerful.

[00:53:06] I don't know that struck me on rewatch. I mean it's a simple plot device to like to subdue and restrain them.

[00:53:13] Yeah, I mean it is electricity straight to like the blood veins right you see like his veins are electrified so maybe it's it's pretty extreme. I don't know.

[00:53:23] The other thing I will mention here is that in the comics of quick quick note for Scrapper 142 spoiler alert for who shall become she is Valkyrie and was introduced in incredible Hulk number 142 in May of 1971. This is sort of a first appearance for Valkyrie specifically the Valkyrie.

[00:53:49] I did like it was very intense in懸ifications. The other thing is that if the original engine was there and Hilda I should mention her essence is magically in mute upon a human in order to fight Hulk in a very weird pseudo feminist story ark it.

[00:54:06] But Bernhilde is the most notable Valkyrie in the comics. She uses Valkyrie as her alias. She was introduced in full as herself, defenders number four, November of 1972, Steve Engelhart and Sal Bhushema is who did that issue. And oh, I should mention, incredible whole number 142.

[00:54:31] I don't think I mentioned the writer in artist. That was Roy Thomas and her Trump. The 70s were wild. Yeah, yeah, they were a wild time. And we also get probably some of the best cameos outside of the actor scene. I know you caught these when

[00:54:50] when Scrapper 142 is flying to the Grand Master's Fortress. Yeah, if you blink, you'll miss it. But there are facial statues of his champions and notable comic figures. So starting like top left, you see beta-ray bill. The new top center, you see Manthing.

[00:55:17] On the top right, you see Eris, the Greek god. The Android monster by beast is on the bottom right. And then the Alien Finfan Foom is bottom center. And then the night crawler, which is not too confused with night crawler for next minute, is on the bottom left.

[00:55:34] I was only familiar with the ones that were familiar to me were like Manthing, Eris. I didn't necessarily know the rest of the characters. But yeah, beta-ray bill reached out and slapped me in the face when I saw it. But that's anybody who has seen a Thor

[00:55:50] that looks like a horse, that's beta-ray bill. He's a fan favorite in the comics and every single time we get anywhere close to a storyline that might have beta-ray bill, the comic fanboys get real excited. So this was a fun little inclusion.

[00:56:10] We also saw a skull from his race in the first Guardians movie when Peter is kind of going through the ruins on his way to the power stone. And then Manthing, we've actually seen in a future MCU project. So I don't want to spoil too much,

[00:56:25] but Manthing has come back. I don't think Eris has come back in the MCU, obviously, in the DCEU, they used their version of Eris. We haven't seen Vibe, start Fin Fainfume, or the Knight Crawler at all in the MCU.

[00:56:50] So after we see this, we see Thor get captured. We cut back over to Hela. She's been gone for a minute, so she discovers she has a low-curating on Asgard. Hela, it's come to my attention that you don't know who I am. I'm Hela, Odin's firstborn, firstborn,

[00:57:12] commander of the legions of Asgard. The rightful heir to the throne and the goddess of death. My father is dead as are the princes. You're welcome. We were once the seat of absolute power in the cosmos. Our supremacy was unchallenged, and yet Odin stopped at nine realms.

[00:57:33] Our destiny is to rule all others, and I am here to restore that power. Neil, before me, and rise to the ranks of my great conquest. Hogan says, whoever you are. Whatever you've done, surrender now, but we will show you no mercy, Hela.

[00:57:52] Whoever I am, did you listen to a word I said? I cracked me up. At least she gets better CGI in this, then she does in Lord of the Rings, when she goes all crazy mode. Yeah, so we quickly expressed the plot,

[00:58:10] which is basically like Odin stopped at nine realms. She wants to take over everything. Yep. Pretty basic plot, but also works. Yeah. She does this really cool thing that she does over and over and over throughout this movie, where she runs her hands through her hair.

[00:58:30] And she makes a spiked crown out of her hair that the longer she stays on as guard, the bigger this crown gets. And then she just absolutely just destroys the asguardian army. We get this CGI fight that has shades of like John Wick

[00:58:52] and the Matrix and 300 with the panning shots and just the way it's done. So so good. She declares herself the new ruler of the asguard and says, let's go see my palace. Yet another all around cool chill chick. To prepare for her role,

[00:59:15] she studied the Afro-Brazilian martial art cup I had. I think I missed pronounced that. But you can kind of see like in this scene, like the kind of styling's in the fighting. And it's very, it's a great scene. You know when that crown comes out though.

[00:59:30] Oh, stuff's about to go down. That was great. Absolutely. Absolutely. So we do see before we cut away from asguard, we see a river flowing around a rock formation with a dome building on top and a mysterious figure climbing up the side of what looks like an island

[00:59:47] in order to be in order to close the by a frost bridge. Back on Sakaar, we get our Willy Wonka tribute scene that is complete with the pure imagination theme song behind it and it feels just like an early days Epcot like right. Totally.

[01:00:10] Voice over surrounded by cosmic gateways. Sakaar lives on the edge of the known and unknown. This is a collection point for all lost and unloved things like you. But here on Sakaar, you are significant. You are valuable. Here, you are love.

[01:00:29] And no one loves you more than the Grandmaster. He is the original. The first lost and the first found. The creator of Sakaar and the founder of the contest of Champions. The Grandmaster, where you were once nothing, now you are something. You are a property of the Grandmaster.

[01:00:50] Congratulations. You will meet the Grandmaster in five seconds. Prepare yourself. You are now meeting the Grandmaster. Ah, Thor screams. I love that. That was an interesting point. How do you, every movie, there's always a scene where like let's make a rattle to this and this is the one.

[01:01:12] Oh, absolutely. Like I say, early, early days, apkott ride that like living with the land, but more demented. So just as the virtual reality ride ends, we see the Grandmaster, and he likes what he sees in Thor and he commends number 142 on her find. I love this. Okay.

[01:01:40] I love when you come to visit 142. You keep bringing me just the best stuff. Whenever we get to talk to Tobas and scrape around 142, what do I always say? She, she it. She is and it starts with a B. Trash. No, no, not trash.

[01:01:56] Were you just waiting to call her that? It doesn't start with a B. Who's hack? I'm so sorry. No, best. I was thinking about the best because I always say you're the best. Ha ha ha. I don't think by the way,

[01:02:08] I would wager that none of his lines are written like, oh, absolutely or his hand motions when he partens people because that's a little uncomfortable. Yeah, Jeff Goblin is completely like he is completely having it up. It's great. By the way, Grandmaster introduced

[01:02:27] Avengers number 69, August of 1969, Roy Thomas, Salbashema. He is an elder of the universe. Other notable members of this race in the comics are ego-the-living planet as well as the collector. In the MCU, the only other elder of the universe that we know of is the collector.

[01:02:48] We established that ego was a eternal, or was a celestial rather. So little bit different. But the Grandmaster is a fairly big villain within the comics. He's a recurring villain and is obsessed with playing games. That's his thing. These elders of the universe always,

[01:03:12] they each kind of have their own specific hobby, collectors collect whatever. And they have their specific hyper-fixation and his his games. So he likes the Grandmaster likes what he sees and pays 10 million credits to number 142 for Thor who is going to fight in the Grand Masters.

[01:03:33] Gladiator death matches. Yeah, hey, games. We see the Grand Masters cousin Carlo whom the Grandmaster part ends from life and melt him with the liquidation stick. This scene just drags on in the most perfect way. It's like, but help me! It's so good. Yeah, it's good.

[01:04:00] The thing I would say about Carlo a couple things. One, the Carlos named after the comic book artist, the mentioned before Carlo. I'll try to not put her as I think, Pugalayan who created Corg and then Carl and then Ryder up to the incredible Hulk comics for 2016,

[01:04:20] which had like plan to Hulk. And then cousin did not realize, but it is New Zealand slang for Buddy, what best friend? He was on the cover. So Chicago slang. Oh, okay. Sorry. Carlos, let's go. Carlos, let's go. Come over there. Okay.

[01:04:39] So yeah, Grandmaster clearly a all-around chill dude. He explains what his contest of champions is. He says, what happened to my manners? I have a prognolian to introduce myself. Come on, follow me. My name is the Grandmaster. I presided over a little hardlequinad called the contest of champions.

[01:04:59] People come from far and wide to unwillingly participate. And you, my friend, are just part of the new cast. What do you say to that? For we are not friends. And I do not give a shit about your games. Quick note here on contest of champions.

[01:05:18] So contest of champions is a comic story arc that involves the Grandmaster kind of creating a contest with death to try and actually win back collectors life. He uses various like superhero teams as pawns in this contest. So it's like all of the superhero teams.

[01:05:40] You've got like Avengers and West Coast Avengers and the Soviet superheroes, or Soviet super soldiers, everybody gets used in here. So the other thing that this also might reference, listeners, if you are a video game player, your ears might be my ring when you hear contest of champions.

[01:06:03] There's also a Android and iOS game. So phone game that was released in 2014, called contest of champions. It also was released as an arcade game. And there's arcade versions of it in 2019. It's actually a pretty fun game, but it's like a fighting type game

[01:06:28] that's also called contest champions where the idea is that collectors telling you to collect a group of champions, a team of champions from the Marvel Universe. So back over to the movie, Thor happens to spot Loki who had already arrived

[01:06:48] on the planet and allied himself with the Grandmaster and is telling the story of the first Thor movie talks about how he let go of Asgard. Thor is surprised. And calls Loki over as they bicker about for being constrained by the chair.

[01:07:06] Loki tells him that he can't help Thor because he made friends with the Grandmaster quote weeks ago. Thor is very confused about this because he just got there. The Grandmaster comes over. Loki denies knowing Thor responds, he's my brother. Loki adds, he's adopted. Grandmaster asks his buddy, Loki,

[01:07:32] if Thor is a fighter, which leads to this exchange. Grandmaster says, hey, sparkles, here's the deal. You want to get back to Asgard? Asgard says, Thor, Grandmaster, any contender who defeats my champion, their freedom they shall win. Thor, fine.

[01:07:53] And point me in the direction of whoever's ass I have to kick. It's great. I like the, I like the adopted line, which is like Natasha. He states in the van, she's kill lady people and Thor is quickly stated. He's adopted, like a winning joke. It's so good.

[01:08:09] And also throughout this scene, the Grandmaster is kind of DJing and playing some techno music. This is where the Devo influence from the guy who did the score now, I can't, who was in Devo, comes through so, so, so, so, so clearly.

[01:08:30] It very much feels like that new way, the kind of Cynthia, like techno music. Yeah, I can tell you, it's Mark. Mother's Ball, I think is the name. Yes, Mark Mother's Ball, thank you. Yep. Yeah, Mark Mother's Ball, who was in Devo,

[01:08:47] which they're not familiar if you're like, well, what's Devo with it, right? That's probably their most famous work. I'm gonna wager that the Venn diagram of people who are listing at this moment and who have never heard of Devo, there's nobody like that. That's true, that's true.

[01:09:07] So Thor accepts the challenge as the chair glides along any Jackson into a circular containment area which shows evidence of battle and has various bodies strewn about. There he meets a large rock-like character named Corg. I love this part. Corg, allow me to introduce myself. My name's Culk.

[01:09:31] I'm kind of like a leader in here. I made a brox, did you can see? Don't look that intimate at you. You don't need to be afraid unless you made a scissors. Just a little rock paper scissors joke for you. This is my good friend over here.

[01:09:45] He's an insect and has nice swathands. Not bad. Not bad, it was a little start off a little C3PO but then you got it to come. Had to settle into that newsy and the little bit more, yep. It's funny, so every time the Henri Watson's

[01:10:02] the Corg character, whom we obviously in later movies but I really jumped out. His, the techwitty said that the court, his character is based on the Polygian bouncer's outside New Zealand nightclubs. You can imagine that there's just big huge ginormous guys who don't need to act aggressive

[01:10:23] and are friendly mild-mannered and I played rugby with a goddamn Joel who, as a, sounds just like this and it's like the biggest, but he's also like the sweetest guy. Like, we'll give you hug and you'll just get all enveloped him. He's like, ah, sweet as bra.

[01:10:37] What's that bra? And then it's just every time you're bored from my new Joel, shout out to Joel. Shouts out. They discussed the freaky circular room for Corg explains that everyone who has fought the Grand Master's champion has perished, including Doug, Thor tells Corg

[01:10:55] that he's going to fight the champion and Corg calls him new Doug. So a couple of notes here on Corg first appearance actually appeared for the very first time in Journey into Mystery, or number 83, June of 1962, Stanley Laryliber and Jack Kirby.

[01:11:18] This is also the first appearance of four but you kind of disappeared off the face of the comics for a long time, tele reappeared in the planet Hulk arc which he kind of did exactly what he did here. Very, very similar story arc there

[01:11:36] and that's where Carlo drew him. And then also this rock paper scissors joke plays out throughout this whole movie in a really funny way. So when you think about it, paper or the lack thereof not printing enough pamphlets is what defeated Corg aka Rock's first uprising, right?

[01:11:59] His first uprising on his home planet, he didn't print enough planets or enough pamphlets so only his mom and her boyfriend who he aided showed up to the revolution, rock beating scissors will come back later in this movie and I'll call it out when it happens.

[01:12:18] But yeah, so really fun kind of that rock paper scissors thing keeps playing. You can also think of like the planet made of trash, aka paper kind of enveloping the rock, aka Corg. Kind of silly. It was fun joke. Yeah. We cut back to Helen's skirt

[01:12:39] who are walking past dead bodies in her palace and this point time you tell you he's like, I probably shouldn't take this job. She asked her as no one been taught her history and she looks at the ceiling which has been painted with a mural of Odin's work

[01:12:52] and it's bright and festive and it's got Odin, Loki, Thor and Helen's just not having a cheese like, look at these lies, goblets and garden parties, peace treaties, Odin, proud to have it ashamed of how we got it. And then she just throws like daggers at the ceiling

[01:13:10] which breaks it apart and causes the mural to fall and then you get the reveal of the dark mural underneath and we see Odin who's wearing the traditional four guard and Helen and he's wearing Helen's crown and it's seen of Helen wielding the owner

[01:13:26] and writing Fenders Wolf alongside Odin and this is the true story about how they conquered the nine rounds and built as guard and one of the things we'd note that up until this point in time, the only people who've seen wield me on our worth for Odin vision

[01:13:45] and then we see Captain American movie and it's just like just a little bit. She explains that Odin retells story about Odin banishing her win her ambition out group his. She tells Gurg underneath the palace where Odin's treasures are, she takes them underneath

[01:14:03] where the Odin's treasures are stored and then we see her walk through and there are like lots of items to say. So we see the infinity gaulet which knocks it over and says fake, let's stop the fake anyway. The gaulet would choose first see in Thorish number one

[01:14:24] and then she looks at the casket of ancient winters week, she looks at the crown of surter, small and thawter bay, she looks at the tazarax, so that's actually not bad. And then approach to the eternal flamens is now, this is truly special.

[01:14:41] So just a couple things to note, the casket of ancient winters was a relic and weapon that belonged to the frostgiden of Yodinheim who used it to conquer enemy realms and the infinity gaulet, which made it brief appearance in Odin's fault in Thor,

[01:14:58] that one had all six infinity stones and this is a plot hole because later on, the empty movies are all broken apart. And then at the next we see of the gaulet was end of age of all trot during the post-credit scene where Thanos has the gaulet

[01:15:12] but none of the ring, none of the stones and says well fine, I'll let myself. So she, hello, takes some of the flame, knocks a huge hole in the ground and then does this kind of cool backflip to the very bottom of the palace

[01:15:25] and these are where the bodies of the ascarty warriors who were buried beneath the palace. These are the ones that fought with her and Odin. She shows Gurd quote, what true power looks like by slamming her fists bearing the eternal flam into the ground

[01:15:40] which awakens all the warriors and fenders wolf from the dead. I missed you all, she says. The question I have for you, these are the berserkers, correct? Yeah, I think so. That would make sense. Okay. The dumb question I have is knowing that the flame will

[01:16:10] flam, if you take the surters crown and dip it into the flame, like, kinda got, anyway, the, like why would you put those together? Why would they be like right now? That just seems to be, it's like you're a, as guardians man.

[01:16:26] If you were, it's always gets them. Yeah, I guess so. So we cut back to Thor who's reciting a prayer when he's joined by Loki. Thor throws a rock to realize his task for projection. It's very funny.

[01:16:40] And Loki says, you don't really think I'd come and see you. Did you, this place is disgusting. This means you don't want my help. Look, I could jeopardize, I couldn't jeopardize my position for the grandmaster. It took me all, took me time to an stress like two weeks,

[01:16:53] whatever. Okay, he's a lunatic. But he could be a mental. What I'm telling you is, you could join me at the grandmaster side. Perhaps in time, an accident before was the grandmaster. And then, then it makes us gesture of takeover if you will.

[01:17:06] You meet thumbs up, gesture, just so funny. Thor is silent the entire time for Loki asks him to quote, say something. Thor says, what would you like me to say? You fake your own death. You stole the throne, strip Oden of his power,

[01:17:23] stranded him on Earth, die, releasing the goddess of death. How about I said enough for you? Do you want me to go back for a little bit past two days? So Loki disappears before Corrigat, me Corrigat, and Corrigat kicks the lawns as, piss off ghost.

[01:17:38] Oh, that was, sorry, that was good. Okay, but anyway, the, and Loki talks about the place, the larger, what, wager on the champion. Do you think that's true? Do you think you wager on the Hulk or not? I mean, maybe, maybe it did.

[01:17:54] It's a cold little, whether it's true or false. It's a, it's a cold comet like, that's a, that's pretty rough. Yeah, it's pretty rough. Look, brother, I bet on you to die. Like, yeah, yeah, well, I mean, maybe it could be saying like, well,

[01:18:11] if Hulk wins a win money and if you win, okay, you're charged. They got these kind of playing chess, if you will. So yeah, it is now time for the contest champions. We see guards dragging a dead, fighters body down ramp while other fighters are selecting their weapons.

[01:18:28] And then we get a minute of pure comedy gold. Oh, forg. This is so good. And these are some of the things I think that they added back in to punch up the comedy. So he, Corrigat, complaints at the weapons aren't cleansed. Oh, yeah.

[01:18:46] There's just someone to hear and blood all over this. Guys, you can clean up all the weapons once. You've finished your fight. I try to get into the accident. It's a tough one. It's a tough one. The guys, can you clean up the weapons

[01:18:59] when you finish a fight? Discussing slabs. Corrigat asks or if he wants to use the, quote, big wooden fork, which toward a client and Corrigat's saying it's not useful. Unless you're fighting off three vampires or huddled together, which is a reference to why to use previous,

[01:19:14] so we do shadows about a group of vampires left together. But the fork, I'm gonna go crack me up and then maybe my favorite part. He thought wishes he had his hammer, which explains Corrigat was unique and gave him the ability to fly. You wrote a hammer?

[01:19:31] No, I didn't ride the hammer. The hammer rode you on your back. No, I would spin it really fast. It would pull me off the- Oh my god, the hammer pulled you off. The grant, it would pull me off the ground into the air and I would fly.

[01:19:46] Every time I threw it, it would always come back to me. It sounds like you had a pretty special and intimate relationship with this hammer. And then that's almost comparable to losing a loved one. That's a nice way of putting it. No, no.

[01:20:03] We see a bar which is separated by the laser fence from the fighters and Thor sees the person, the captain heard Corrigat, and tells her that her name, the Corrigat tells her him, that her name is Scrap 142. And that she's from Asgard. Thor approached her tells her

[01:20:22] that Asgard and danger finds out that she is actually a valcroy. One of Thor's of one of Ogden's elite female soldiers. Thor asked if she's a traitor or a coward because Valkyries are just want you protect the Throne Vowsgard to which she replies,

[01:20:35] this is the car, not Asgard before adding quote, no one escapes this place. She or going to die anyway. The couple things note here, one thing that was that Thor and she's never called by her name. And she never calls him Thor.

[01:20:55] She just I think she first of all is your majesty at one point time. I do love one of the Chris, this has got to be in Prophon Chris Hamster with these like, you know, he's gonna be a valcroy when I was younger

[01:21:05] until I found you were all women. I think we're all women, of course. I love women sometimes a little too much but not a creepy way just more like a respectful appreciation. I think it's great and lead force of women wars. It's about time. Thumbs up.

[01:21:22] It's so funny. Chris Hamster, the one thing I would say I read it somewhere described is in the, in the prior films, Chris Hamster were the Thor character was like the butt of the jokes and now he's like the humorous one and it really, really works.

[01:21:40] So time for the main event, God of Thunder versus the champion. But first Thor has to get a haircut by securing us, Karin Barber, who's willing this insane device with multiple wearing blades and it is Stanley and who makes this a blick guitar.

[01:22:04] Cameo and he says, no, don't you move my hands on the steady stage of the bane. And this is the same barber that cuts, whole Xair. Oh good question. I don't know. I don't think you do that but if you notice the in the movie,

[01:22:21] the haircut just looked up at the initials in the side, I think are a little jarring but it looks like it's an NNZ which techwitchie said stands for New Zealand. I always took it as just like the barber was a little haphazard

[01:22:35] and you know, kind of little too close in a couple places. So, I totally, but at this point in time, Chris Hembsor, like oh thank God, the wig is gone. Oh yeah. You can cut whatever inside of my hair if you want. So let's just shed that thing.

[01:22:50] So now it's time at this point in time alright, let's spend some of that CGI budget. So we cut to a huge arena where the grandmasters introduced the made events. The balcony is watching from her ship. It's like kind of hovering above

[01:23:03] and she's sitting on the door up and from the platform, it's pretty cool. And Corgan others are watching from the sideline while Loki is a guest in the grandmasters suite. So the grandmaster inches the floor as the Lord of Thunder and who makes sparks from his hands, fingers.

[01:23:25] And then it's time to introduce the champion and then green fireworks explode in their arena as the crowd gets empt up for the undefeated champion for ready himself and don't a winged helmet as the champion into this current Sikarna Rita, which is reminiscent of the comics

[01:23:41] and his helmet in North Norse mythology. Grandmaster says, quote, he's undefeated, he's the reigning, he's the defending, ladies and gentlemen, I give you your incredible and then the Hulk breaks through the arena doors and then roars Hulk. And so we get our first the incredible Hulk.

[01:24:05] Thor's, I would describe him as ecstatic. And he yells, yes! I love Loki mutters to him so I've got to get off this planet. Hulk holds up his weapon and people in general, Hulk, Hulk Thor chowped up to the grandmaster. Hey, hey, we know each other.

[01:24:28] He's a friend from work. And then the Thor says to Hulk, where have you been? If we thought he would dead, there's so much that happens since I saw you. I lost my helmet like yesterday so that's still pretty fresh. Loki, Loki's alive, can you believe it?

[01:24:45] He's up there and Hulk cleanses it, Loki. Thor says, hey, Loki look who it is and Hulk just horror strike. He's just like this is awful. The wall mural that you see in the box with it, when there's a pan away scene

[01:25:01] and you see like artwork at the background is actual piece of Jack Kirby art. Yeah, as you cover a fantastic four number 64. Which I thought was pretty cool and then the friend form work line was suggested by a make wish childhood who visited the day

[01:25:19] the scene was filmed. So yeah, I just cool like especially, I mean for the significant to that, but also just like the fact that it's so fluid that you could write what great was a very iconic line. Yeah, absolutely. There is also a red character

[01:25:38] staying behind the Grand Master of resembles a rise of the Sloss Hill from the comics. And this is, I think you mentioned this is the Planet Hulk storyline. Oh yeah, yeah. This and like both this costume, so Hulk's like Gladitorial Armor

[01:25:55] as well as his kind of necklace see armor that he's wearing when he's not competing are almost directly pulled straight from the pages of the comics. Right. Thor tells a Hulk that he's happy to see him. He tells Banner is a Banner and I'm happy to see him

[01:26:15] to where it's Hulk's no Banner only Hulk. Thor is unable to raise him with Hulk, so Thor is left with no choice but to fight him and he queued the big CGI battle. This is the first film where Lou Fregnows actually not voicing the Thor character.

[01:26:33] That's what you've done by. Mark Rufflo. So, so, not a Vodotune. A lot. There's a couple of points in this movie where you can tell that they just use the auto tune because you hear his voice do the little like like cheap pain. Ooh, kind of sound.

[01:26:55] I'm not gonna go back to watching with that now. Now that's stuck in the head. So this is a very cool fight scene. Well, go swing by swinging, but Thor casts the Hulk with a huge hammer swing which stuns the Hulk and sends his body

[01:27:09] like around the wall, interwall of the arena and just like crowds just like what's going on here. There's a lone fight in Thor does his blackwood imitation of like, hey big guy. So it's getting real low. And even though they tell that joke multiple times

[01:27:29] yeah I crack up every time. It's the palm padding. Like he knows what he does. He bounces palm. Yeah and he's like he puts his hand in Hulk's hand says, I wonder do you anymore? No one will but instead of reverting the banner,

[01:27:44] he just grabs them and just ragged alls them in the same way. He's not dead to Loki in the adventures. And Loki just jumps up, just yes that's how it feels. He just jumps up, just yes that's how it feels. Pewdie god. Pewdie god.

[01:28:01] The Thor starts wailing on Hulk, used combination of hammer swings and punches but Hulk catches the hammer swing and punches Thor cross the arena and begins to completely work Thor while he's on the ground. Things look grim until Thor sees Odin and he invisions Odin.

[01:28:19] Someone's is lighting and zaps him with electricity before punching out the Hulk. And then Thor has the upper hand and the crowd starts chanting the loyal crowd, I should have, starts chanting thunder, thunder. Just the grandmaster activated that beatings disc and zaps Thor forces him to lose.

[01:28:38] Hulk jumps about a half mile there apparently to pull off top of the end top rope ending move. Again, and again, I do not know how the obedience disc could take out the war but I could not. It does not make sense. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.

[01:28:57] So back at the palace, Hela asks what all the noises and scourge tells her that the common folk aren't falling in line. Hela sensors on the warriors to take care of the people trying to break through the gates. She asks Gourge about his ambitions

[01:29:15] and he points, and she appoints her him to be her executioner, which is what Gourge is called in the comics. Hela, every gate, every great king had an executioner, not just to execute people, but also execute their vision. But mainly execute people. Still, it was a great honor.

[01:29:42] I was Odin's executioner and you shall be my executioner. Hela and Scourge and the zombie army head out for conquest walking across the by-for-off's bridge only defined that the sword, which opens the by-for-off's missing. See Daisy probably should have checked on that one.

[01:30:02] Hela commands Scourge to round up the people that aren't falling into line. We cut to a scene of a family running through a stream and they are being chased by the zombie army before they run into, I'm gone! He kills five zombies with the by-for-off sword

[01:30:23] before taking them to a secret hiding place where other as guardians are safely kept. Hime dolls hold like arc in this whole movie feels so bored of the rings. Like the scenery looks very Lord of the Rings. Yeah. The way that the secret door to the keep opens

[01:30:43] is very Lord of the Rings. It all feels very, very, very, very Lord of the Rings. Completely. So we go back over to Sekar where we get our obligatory shirtless. I chicken breasts and egg whites for six months. So check out my abs and my pecs

[01:31:03] and CGI hoax abs and pecs and V-shaped shadow. Thor is injured, he wakes up and he's being attended to a group of healers. Thor sees that Hulk is in a hot tub and asks him how long he's been big green and stupid which he says, Hulk always Hulk.

[01:31:26] Thor asks Hulk where the queen jet is and Hulk exits the hot tub naked and walks towards the window to point it out. Thor, that's naked. He's very naked. That's him right now. And we get our first butt of the MCU Hulk butt. And not the last one.

[01:31:50] Nope, not the last one. I wanna spoil it by a bit. Nope. Thor tries to convince Hulk to help him return to Asgard and Hulk can return to Earth. Hulk is unwilling to go. He enjoys fighting in the Grand Master's Arena

[01:32:07] and it's convinced that he is unwelcome on Earth. They bicker a bit, Hulk calling Thor baby arms. Baby arms. Before Thor walks away and is shocked yet again by invisible lasers. Hulk laughs and says Thor home. Thor is awake and calls on Heimdahl for calls on Heimdahl.

[01:32:34] And Thor is virtually transported to Asgard to see the damage that hella rock. Heimdahl tells Thor that hella gets stronger each day in that they need his help. Thor says he's trying but he doesn't know where he is and Heimdahl says you're on a planet surrounded by doorways.

[01:32:58] Go through the big one. Thor and Hulk continue to argue. Thor is pissed off in his kicking things. upset at Hulk who's being a really bad friend. Thor calls Hulk the dumbest avenger and tells him that Earth does not, it does indeed hate Hulk.

[01:33:19] Words hurt Thor, words hurt. They quickly apologize to each other and discuss how they're so much alike. Hulk, Hulk, Hulk, go ahead. Either Hulk always, always angry. I know we're the same. We're just a couple of hot headed fools. Yeah, same Hulk like fire Thor like water.

[01:33:45] Well, we're both kind of like fire. But Hulk like real fire like raging fire, Thor like smoldered fire. It's so dope. Thor asks Hulk for a favor and then we see Scrapper 142, aka Angry Girl, arrive at Hulk's place. Thor says he wants to talk to her

[01:34:13] and she agrees to listen for the time it takes her to finish what looks to be a gallon of alcohol. She finishes the drink in like four seconds total. It starts to leave in butt stays and she hears that Odin is dead.

[01:34:26] Thor tells her that Hell is returned and that he's going to stop her. Valkyrie, alone? Thor. Nope, I'm putting together a team. It's you, me and the big guy. Hulk, no, no team, only Hulk. Thor, me and you, Valkyrie, I think it's only you.

[01:34:49] She tells him that she tells him how the Valkyrie fought Hell up before and she was the only survivor. He tells her that it's not about as guard, the as guard thrown, it's about the people. The Hella tells him to forget it. It just like she already has.

[01:35:08] Thor tells her he runs to his problems, not from his problems and so he is decided to go in a long. Thor jumps out of window after spacking himself in the head with a bowling ball and slides down the building

[01:35:25] to find the queen jet that Hulk had brought to Sikar. Thor, Thor hops in the queen jet and turns on the computer, places his hand on the hand for his scanner. He's prompted for a voice activated password. He cycles through several.

[01:35:42] Thor, Thor, son of Odin, got a thunder, strongest of ender. Damn you, Stark, point break. Call back to the Avengers. Just as the queen jet is powering up, Hulk arrives and accidentally breaks literally the whole thing as he tries to stop Thor.

[01:36:04] Thor happens to say happens to play the last transmission that the queen jet received from Natasha. This memory kind of kicks, kicks Thor into turning back into banner and revert to banner for the first time in two years. Banner puts his hand on the scanner,

[01:36:28] the voice activation pass, and provides his voice activation password, banner and the queen jet responds welcome, strongest of ender. As they watch the ship's log, a video projection of the Grandmaster announces that the champion is missing, and he encourages his residents to go find him.

[01:36:50] Thor tries to fill Bruce in on what's happened, well, he was the Hulk as Bruce starts to freak out and process what happened. Thor tries to calm him down, but just saying the sun's getting really low over and over again as they exit the queen jet

[01:37:07] and look for alternate transportation. I love the, I love the little exchange stream for Bruce, where he's like, you and I had a fight recently. Bruce, like do I win? Thor is in now, I won easily Bruce like that. I didn't send a life, it's true, like.

[01:37:22] Yeah, it's so good. And then also just a little bit of foreshadowing because they like to use Tony's shirts for foreshadowing any time. Tony Stark shows up here. The only clothes that are in the queen jet are is a set of Tony Stark's clothes

[01:37:39] and the tea, it's like a blazer with a t-shirt underneath. The t-shirt that's underneath is the cover for Durand Durand's album Rio, which features the song, Hungry Like The Wolf. Maybe a little bit of foreshadowing. Do we see a wolf in this movie? That's what I'm saying.

[01:38:00] Must have nodded off. So then we see a really cool reflective walking shot where it kind of like the camera like spins through the reflection of the floor, where Loki and Valkyrie are walking in. Tycoa T-T actually called this shot

[01:38:21] with the greatest shot in the history of cinema. Yeah. They joined the Grandmaster who tasks them with retrieving Hulk and Thor. Loki, my dear friend, if you were to give me 12 hours, I could bring them both back to you. I can do it in two.

[01:38:42] Loki, I could do it in one. There were competitiveness continues as the two leave. Well, in the whole hallway, Loki asks, why would you help my brother escape with that green fool? Then engage in some hand-to-hand combat with knives during which Loki sees a scrapper 142's tattoo.

[01:39:04] Loki says, you're a Valkyrie. I thought the Valkyrie had died some all died gruesome deaths. Valkyrie, choose your next words wisely. Loki, I'm terribly sorry. It must be a very painful memory. Valkyrie gets the upper hand and subdues Loki,

[01:39:24] but then Loki grabs her forehead and forces her to relive her memories of fighting hella. In this really cool leg, slow-motion flashback scene, the Valkyrie are flying on Pegaside, into battle, hella and hella has other things on her mind and slotters them all.

[01:39:50] We see a blonde woman pushing Valkyrie out of the way of a fatal attack, losing her own life. Valkyrie snaps out, so scrapper 142 aka Valkyrie snaps out of her traumatic dream and knocks out Loki. The two things to note on rewatch.

[01:40:12] I don't know why, but I've gotten the scene. This is very short flashback scene. Yeah. In watching it was beautiful. They did the used a 900-fran per second high speed rate and a special 360 degree lighting rig of like a 200. A Kavanaugh strobe lights to make the scene look

[01:40:32] as like disoriented as possible. It is like amazing to watch. And then the other thing you probably noticed is that the blonde Valkyrie, who was the original Valkyrie's look in the next, the original Valkyrie. Very much, Bruno Hill does look, yeah. For sure.

[01:40:48] So Thor is trying to calm down Bruce and make their way through the streets of the car just repeating over and over again. So it sounds going down. It's getting really bad. I like that he just thinks like this combination of words.

[01:41:01] But he's enough, if you just say it with the right intonation, it'll, it's like a spell. Box car 16. Yeah, totally. I'm sorry. I think, how's my Russian? Let me try to, anyway, sorry. So Bruce is freaking out because he's on an alien planet

[01:41:17] which is designed to stress him out. Thor asks Bruce for his help to defeat Helo. But Bruce is worried that once the Hulk comes out, he might not be able to revert back to Banner and Thor doesn't seem to care.

[01:41:31] Bruce says, you're just using me to get back into the Hulk. That's gross. You don't care about me. You're not my friend. No, no, I don't need like the Hulk. He's all like Smash, Smash, Smash. I prefer you. Thanks.

[01:41:49] But if I'm being honest, when it comes to fighting evil things, he's very powerful and useful. Yeah, Banner is powerful and useful too. Hey, is he though? I love to use the meme from this scene where like the facial expression that Thor gives

[01:42:10] when he says, is he though? Is he though? So good. Cracks you up. This is also a direct mirror of what he had said to convince the Hulk to come with him. It's like, I don't like Banner. Bruce is still nervous about doing anything

[01:42:29] that could summon the Hulk ego. So Thor tells him that he doesn't have to fight, but they are in danger. So they put on disguises, Tony and the Gypsy. Sorry for the sling, or for the slur there, but it was in the movie.

[01:42:46] Before heading out on the streets, he promises that he promises Bruce that he'll never have to think of Hulk again. And wouldn't you know it? They step into a very intense Hulk for him. That did not do not go well. The people carrying our decorative artwork

[01:43:08] and Banner's chanting Hulk, Hulk, Banner hits in the face with a green powder before the two gets separated. Banner is confronted by a huge alien creature before Thor intervenes. Before Thor can do anything, the creature is shocked with an obedience disk of its own by Balkerine.

[01:43:30] She then invites them to follow her away from the crowd. So one of the things, and we've seen him number times the movie, but like, takeaway to really get shot, like, in views, a lot of like local elements.

[01:43:43] So you know, you've got the whether it's a small NZ in the side of the hair, the New York City, we shot Melburn. The obviously the ponies and cork character, if you will. And then here, the artwork and the Banner

[01:43:59] is for the Hulk parade were made by interned from the local Aboriginal community. And he tacked what he wanted to offer them the opportunity experience a film set in possibly find inspiration themselves, which I thought was pretty cool.

[01:44:12] And then I also like the funny panting about Thor's disguise when he's talking to the Balkerine. He's like, she's like, I can still see her face. He's like, now when I do this, you can't even cover his face. Like it's so stupid. So dumb.

[01:44:26] But at this point on, Valkerine is ready to join the team. Look, I've seen Valkerine says, look, I spent years and haze trying to forget my past. So car seemed like the best place to drink and to forget and to die one day.

[01:44:43] Thor says, well, I was thinking that you drink too much. So that was probably going to kill you. I don't plan to stop drinking. But I don't want to forget. I can't turn away anymore. So if I'm gonna die, well, it might as well be driving my sword

[01:45:02] through that heart of that murderous hag. Oh good. So we had Thor named the team, the Avengers, because they all want revenge, except for Bruce who's untasided. And the Marvel Comics Avengers were a team of super villains and Anna Heros who were made to oppose the Avengers.

[01:45:19] So she takes him back to Loki, who has chained up in lock to the room, four throws something at Loki's head just to be sure, just to be sure. He's not illusion. He is not illusion. He's actually there.

[01:45:30] In fact, funny, Balkerine's a plan to go through a wormhole we feel on Xandar and Beat Asgard at about 18 months. And remembering what Hymdall told him for picks the biggest of the wormholes running to planet, which Balkerine indicates is called the devil's ainess.

[01:45:48] Her ship will make it through so they talk about what kind of spacecraft they need. For us as we need one, that can withstand the geodetic strain from the singularity. Like now that was not ad-libbed. I'm telling you right now.

[01:46:02] Bruce says, and has an offline power stirring system and it also functioned out the onboard computer, and Balker says, and one that has couple holes because we're gonna die. So drinks. The Loki armoured BCN this is the agent of Asgard comic where he sought to change his destiny

[01:46:21] and become a hero. And you know, Thor tells Loki that always be the same in which it tries to inspire Loki to generally act heroic. Loki offers to help them escape. He has stolen access codes and agrees to help them find a spacecraft in exchange for

[01:46:38] quote, safe passing through the Anus, and quote. Bruce is skeptical, noting that Loki was talking about killing just a few minutes prior. Thor tells in the Loki has always attempted to kill him and shares a child of story about the time.

[01:46:52] Loki transformed himself into a snake and stabbed Thor. We were eight at the time. Thor, I don't know if you noticed, but then Thor looks at Loki. I'd love to just get this big smile this way. It's so funny. So good.

[01:47:06] The also, the devil's Anus bit cracks me up every time I walk. I know it makes me a child. I know it absolutely makes me a child, but oh, it's so good. It is a low hanging comedic piece of fruit. They enlist the help of Corg and Meek.

[01:47:24] That's stuff, the revolution, which will cause a distraction as they attempt to steal. Chip, Topaz informs Grandmaster of the uprising Grandmaster. Revolution, how did this happen? I don't know, but the arena's mainframe for obedience discs has been deactivated and the sleeves have armed themselves.

[01:47:46] Oh, oh, I don't like that word. Mainframe? No, no, no, no, why not pop it in? I like mainframe. No, the S word. Sorry, the prisoners with jobs have armed themselves. Okay, that's better. We cut to fun seeing where Thor and Loki are working together. Get spaceship.

[01:48:05] They fight side by side using laser guns as they make it the way to the hangar on the elevator. Loki tells Thor that he may stay in Thor agrees because Sakaar is savage, chaotic, lollus, like Loki. Loki seems genuinely upset. Loki says, you really truly think so little.

[01:48:24] So, I love me. Thor says, Loki, I thought the world of you thought you were going to fight side by side forever, but in the end of the day, you're out, you're me and I'm me.

[01:48:35] And oh, maybe there's still good news, but let's be honest, our paths diverge a long time ago. And as they cannot be elevator, Thor says, Loki, let's do get help. Well, he's like, no. Come on, you love it. I hate it. It's great. The works every time.

[01:48:53] So, you're really amazing. Do you have a better plan? No. What doing it? We are not doing get help. Thor carries Loki off the elevator in front of the guards. Get help. Please, my brother is dying. You help. Help him.

[01:49:10] And the other throws Loki at them and knocks them down. A classic. Loki gets upset as I still hate it, humiliating. But for me, it's not. They, it's okay. They, Loki at the ship that Dr. Told, must deal with the Commodore, but Loki attempts to

[01:49:31] be his tray thore yet again. Now, no, Loki says I know it's betrayed you many times before, but this time it's truly nothing personal reward for your capsule. Set me up nicely. But this time, after years of dealing with trails, Thor has anticipated Loki's treasure

[01:49:52] and obtuse him with his own obedience disc. He tells them that it'll always be the God of Misship, but he could be more Thor leaves Loki behind while he takes off in the ship. One more nod to New Zealand and Australia culture.

[01:50:08] The ship is named after the Holden Commodore and is painted in the colors of the Aboriginal Australian flag. And then Warsaw, the fact for the ship is painted in the colors of the Mary flag. Yeah.

[01:50:19] As the resident car guy around these parts, I should also mention several other Holden ships got holden names got pulled for ships. So Topaz is ship during this chase that that ensues here is the Toronto or Torana, which is another Holden car.

[01:50:40] The escort and the Kingswood are ships that Tycoa TT and like interviews referred to, but we don't know exactly which ship in the chase they each are. And then the big huge ship that we end up using kind of at the end of the movie here,

[01:50:57] that's actually called the statesmen. All of those are Holden cars, which for anybody who is not aware Holden is essentially like Australian Ford if you will. So. That's cool. The Grandmaster announced that Thor has stolen a ship and is championed and

[01:51:18] encouraged people to take to the scrubs, take to the sky and bring them down. Thor quickly has a ship that's hot on the tail and shoots it up, but it's destroyed by the Alcryte in her ship. She ejects Bruce into the Commodore before Topaz joins in the battle.

[01:51:37] Jack Doseido. Oh, Bruce and Thor look for guns, but there are none because it's the Grandmaster is called leisure metal vessel, which it uses for good times like orgy's and stuff. Don't judge anything. End quote. It's like a Jackson and Jackson baller. Oh, good.

[01:51:57] So Tobaz destroys Valkyrie ship, but one forties do still live and leaves onto the Commodore. The word tells her to get inside to which she responds quote, in a minute she needs to throw out force leap off the Commodore and destroy the other ships.

[01:52:12] They then rejoined the Commodore in order to enter the devil's anus. Now we also see Corg with NC Corg and other revolutionaries arrive at the same spaceship level where Loki is. Corg powers down locus of beatings disc. Hey, man, we're going to jump on that giant spaceship.

[01:52:29] Do you want to come? Corg says, well, you too seem like you're in desperate need of leadership. Corg says, well, thank you. Back on Asgard, Scourge is asking for the location of the Bifrost Sword and says there

[01:52:42] will be bad consequences to the people of Asgard if they don't tell her we've seen hell use the moral flamethrases and then army of undead soldiers and her massive battle wolf. Fenris and has been scaring the realm for high-end all who had taken the Bifrost Sword

[01:52:58] to stop Hell's Conquest. The executioner is about to but electrically kill one of the Asgardes before someone comes forward to say he knows where the sword is located. So we cut back to our heroes who are passed out on the Commodore.

[01:53:15] They've somehow survived the turbulent trip through the devil's anus, they awaken to find that they have exited the devil's anus and something to keep saying it until Ryan laughs and finds themselves having arrived at Asgard, which Bruce notices is quote on fire.

[01:53:30] So we get a bunch of rapid fire cutscene so Thor sketches out a quick plan where he takes on Hell, while the others help all the Asgardians to escape. Hell's armies about to assault the stronghold or Asgard's people have fled to escape her wrath.

[01:53:47] Thor provides Valkyrie with gun and an outfit he found in an army and goes to confront Hella to distract her Thor tells Valkyrie tells Thor quote, Your Majesty, don't die before she and banner fly off to help Hymdaill help the Asgardians escape via the Bifrost.

[01:54:02] So the big escape plan. Thor enters the planet sees the familiar realm which has been shattered on the ground as well as the original neural with Odin and Hella. Hella throws Hella swords quote pun intended at the stronghold and enters there.

[01:54:17] You know I was it's gonna make its way and I'm sorry. Only to find an empty and Hymdaill is shepherding as Guardians through the Bifrost. And as a bit of foreshadowing when Thor sees the ruins of the palace ceiling painting there

[01:54:33] is a crack running through his portraits right I foreshadowing how hell it that means. I something might happen if you're keep listening watching. It also looks very gizzy like the Thor that's on the ground like just the painting looks very gizzy.

[01:54:50] Oh yeah totally totally so Thor sits on the throne and he's just banning a scepter right nor to call Hella and she expresses surprise that he is still alive. Thor says I love what you've done with this place reduckered and everything.

[01:55:09] It would seem our father's solution to every problem was to cover it up. Or cast it out and told you you were the he said the same thing to me. You see you never knew him not at his best Odin and I drank the entire civilization in blood

[01:55:28] and tears Jesus Christ. Where do you think all this gold came from? And then one day he decided to become a benevolent key to foster peace to protect the life to have you.

[01:55:44] I just end your angry and you are my sister and technically have a claim to the throne and believe me I would love for someone else to rule but they can't be you if you're just the worst. Okay get up you're on my seat.

[01:55:59] So they restwards each other reddit and her battle before we come back to a high up view of Ascarb with the by frost bridge. Heimdall is leading over the the Asgardian transplants.

[01:56:12] They all stopped when they see Finner's wolf startling on the by frost and standing in their way and they retreat towards Heimdall. I'm now command some to go back just as the Commodore enters the fray and starts shooting at

[01:56:23] Finner's as the Asgardians retreat the encounter scourge and his undead army on the bridge. It's kind of cool did you catch who was on the the scourge side of the Asgardian pack like the first line? Who was it again?

[01:56:36] It's his company it's the two ladies from where we're like at the by frost portal with him earlier in the movie. All right there you go still chance still chance. It's yours. Moreover they they're the most pissed off and ready to take on scourge.

[01:56:53] Totally as they so they are you know the big battles about to into. Thorin Gage is hella in a single combat but his overpower once more losing his right eye in fight. Hella's undead army and Finner's attack the Asgardians on the by frost.

[01:57:15] Valkyrie keeps shooting at the quote stupid dog but he won't die. Finner's is running towards the help of Sgardians. Bruce tells Valkyrie quote you'll see no I am before Jim Benner jumps out.

[01:57:30] Hoping to turn into the Hulk right when he's crash lands limply on the by frost still Ben. It's so good. Fenderous against Bruce a quix niff before running towards high in ball man as Gardians all

[01:57:44] looks awesome till Fender stops for some reason we look back and you see that Benner is transformed into Hulk and fights Fender's and it is on the jumping out is a little bit of a nod to the incredible

[01:58:01] Hulk when Bruce Banner jumps out of the helicopter to fight abomination and also pays homage to the original Hulk in 2003 where he fights giant mutated dogs that are able to pierce through his skin

[01:58:13] with their teeth. I share that in hopes that nobody goes back to watch either of those movies too. We are already watched one of them for you. I can't do 2000 through Hulk. I don't know if I can do that.

[01:58:28] Hella has defeated Thor and shows him that there's no escape for the Asgardians. Hella, you know, they're just trying to get the by frost bridge. Right. On Hell's Asgardians I'll get that

[01:58:37] sword even if I have to kill every single one of them to do it. Asgardians struggle to fight off the undead army, factory in the combat or crash land on the by frost and all is looking

[01:58:50] bleak hindalls about to finally get killed and you'd be let out of the sense of you contract. When Corgarized and kills you attacker, it's like hey man I'm Cog this is meek we're going to jump

[01:59:01] on that spaceship and get out of here. What a comb we see Loki has joined the frame and chosen the heroes path and arrives in the ship and says your savior is here. He commands

[01:59:12] people on the ship which is cracking up. He commands people on the ship while he heehive dog court, Nick and the other revolution fell and we try to fight off the zombie army. Hell has subdued Thor stabbing multiple times. He watches his Asgard starts to fall

[01:59:27] forth to feed it receives a vision yet another vision of Odin. Their bullf and the same field in Norway were Odin died. Odin says even with two eyes you only see half the picture.

[01:59:41] Thor says she's too strong without my hammer I can't. Odin says are you four? The god of hammers? Odin tells him that the hammer helped Thor to control and focus his power but it wasn't

[01:59:54] the source of his strength. He tells Thor that Asgard is not just a place but a people so long as Asgardians live they can find new Asgard elsewhere. Thor says I'm not a strong issue

[02:00:07] to which Odin says no, you're stronger. We cut back to Hella who is now at this point time she is just taunting for right? She is just playing with them. Hella says quote I'm not a queen or monster

[02:00:22] I'm the goddess of death tell me brother what were you caught up again and then he's like leaning over this edge and his eyes light up and you hear the crackling

[02:00:38] and the hands and electricity and the lead zeppelin kicks in and I'm gonna tear it out every time I'm gonna get right now and getting goosebumps because it's like this is

[02:00:49] awesome and I don't know where I would rank it on my all-time MCU fight list but it is way up there right? So It's it's on Thor completely levels the zombie army on the bridge very iconic fight scene. We see kept

[02:01:09] a valkyrie and she's with people like Hulk is fighting venerous wolf punches him over a waterfall Loki Corganetic are taking out the zombie army as guardians board the ship and scourge like

[02:01:23] F.S. and quits the fight and six hundred. So it's just to contrast the use of the immigrant song by Led Zeppelin it's used at the beginning of the film it's used at this part of the film

[02:01:37] it's used very well in both scenes but it's interesting to see there's a decontabey between the two scenes the first scene Thor is like he's in control he's joking he's haven't fun here is like clearly he's super pissed off oh yeah um the color scheme earlier goes from

[02:01:52] warm to cold use and then um you know the first one if you think about it in geometric ways like he's spinning around in circle right in the middle. Oh yeah yeah into the chain and this

[02:02:06] is all straight lines and so being the by frost bridge so Thor Loki and Valkyrie join forces to fight hell up. Thor says I think we should disband the rev ventures and Loki said hitter with lightning

[02:02:21] glass. Thor says I just hitter with the biggest lightning glass in the history of light it did nothing Valkyrie says we just need to hold her off until everyone is on board. Thor says it won't end there

[02:02:32] the longer hell is on as guard the more powerful she grows she'll hunt us down we need to stop her now here and now Valkyrie says so what do we need so what do we do Loki's?

[02:02:44] Loki says I'm not doing get help. So good so Thor repeats owns words that as guard is a place it's not a place it's a people before saying quote this was never about stopping

[02:03:02] ragrock it was about causing ragrock this with the key to defeating hell up basically hell is grown more powerful than anyone but because her power is tied to as guard itself Thor decides

[02:03:15] to you know forget rid of vascar then she's defeated so Thor decides to unleash her so he can feel full of destiny of destroying his guard down to its foundations. Loki adds to the vault to

[02:03:26] get service crown while Thor and Valkyrie face off against hella the ship tries to take off but hell is stops with a huge spike which pierces the hull and which allows the zombie army to climb

[02:03:38] up and infiltrate the ship all looks lost until scourge whoops out des and Troy and starts shooting up undead armoured very kind of moment he yells for as guard is he jumps off the ship

[02:03:53] sacrificed himself to save as guard in for hello kills him and this is pulled straight from the comics again right right from the crom x in Thor 362 wall Simon since run uh scourge is

[02:04:08] basically tired of being kept as a minion by the by enchantress so he uh so scourge Thor balder and i'm her jar i'm her jar cause I'm a ghost to hell to try and steal back a whole bunch of souls

[02:04:27] that hella had stolen stolen so he uh sacrifices himself on a different bridge on galler brew which is the final bridge into hell on the hallway and one thing to know for later on the scene where

[02:04:43] Loki is cutting through uh Odin's room with all the treasures will come back in a later movie because he got something other than just sergers crown so mm mm so Loki retrieves the crown from the vault

[02:05:02] uses the eternal plane to re-sum and the fire demon looks as with the eternal flame you are reborn and hella is about to kill the injured balcary when Thor says enough you want to ask

[02:05:11] hard it's yours hell says whatever game you're playing it won't work you can't defeat me Thor says no i know then serger appears but he can and then so sergers revive and basically fulfills

[02:05:25] the ragnarot prophecy serger destroys asgar he kills hella so the asgardians may live all they need to do is let serger finish the job when the Hulk shows up it tries to fight serger big monster

[02:05:41] and Thor is not like so like no talks and out of it they got and Hulk grabs them and jump them onto ship aboard the ship we see the revengeers corg, humdall and that's guardians looking

[02:05:55] down and corg always like a like a glass half fall like looking at the bright something's like damage not that bad as long as the foundation still strong we can rebuild this place to become

[02:06:07] haven't all peoples in aliens of the universe then asgard exposed corks has no those foundations are gone sorry i'm not afraid so good like tech he did a great job of course always on the

[02:06:23] refugee ship Thor takes his place as the new king of asgard repeating Odin's words that asgard lives on at lives on in its people he vows to find the new home and sets his sight on earth

[02:06:36] out uh handle asks where to and then um if which has this funny exchange between Thor and meek Thor says i'm not sure any suggestions meek where are you from corks in oh meek stead Thor's like oh corks is yeah accident stopped on on the bridge I feel

[02:07:01] still feel so good I became right all day i think meek wakes up say oh meek your life he's alive guys what was your kid she what was your question your breath earth it is so good so good couple

[02:07:14] of notes at the end of the movie here what there's a three headed champion he's also in he's also on secar but he's fighting with them here from the three heads on that champion our title what T.T.

[02:07:28] space um Chris Hemsworth's face and then the mocap actor who who mocaped that characters face so so when you see the three headed guy um and you look at it you can totally see all three

[02:07:43] faces very clear as day oh that's cool um and then the last thing i wanted to call out is this is where the rock paper scissors joke completes because meek being a insect with knives for hands

[02:07:58] is the scissors analog and rock crushed scissors oh meek your life so good so good um so that is our movie here so David I guess i'll start all kind of talk about why I felt like

[02:08:21] this movie was significant then i'll pass it to you after that so i think this movie this movie one solidified the the comedic angle of the MCU and particularly Thor right Thor to this point was

[02:08:39] a fantasy character who did a little bit of fish out of water kind of had some humorist scenes but overall his movies were not he we're not comedies right um so this took Thor in a

[02:08:55] different direction than the previous movies had and kind of in a way resurrected Thor like the Thor series um to the point where Thor is the only hero with four movies now uh in as of modern

[02:09:10] day MCU right he's the only one who's four named movies um and i think it's because of the success of this movie and this the the the change if they had kept going down kind of the dark world Thor

[02:09:24] won very like high fantasy type of path i think we probably would have lost Thor here like we you would still show up but he wouldn't get his own movies repeatedly yeah no they now you're exactly

[02:09:37] right it completely reboots the character remains character re-reboots the franchise right yeah i mean you don't really think about it but we talked about just a little bit like it completely rewrote

[02:09:51] how we see Loki by not having killed Odin um and so just hey we're just gonna go handwave at that ending dark world absolutely absolutely um so yeah David any other like main like why you thought

[02:10:07] this movie was significant to the MCU well there's uh there's a couple quotes from Takaway TV talk about your very point he um said despite this movie setting up you know future event movies

[02:10:22] this uh this movie would not only stand on the film but it would reinvent the franchise he says quote a lot of what we were doing this film is in a new way dismantling destroying the idea and rebuilding

[02:10:31] it in a new way that's fresh everyone's got a slightly new take on their characters so now it feels like the first Thor and so when he talks about this concept of re-invention he says quote

[02:10:42] while regrant tradition means to end of everything in the context of the film event i mean it's disassembling what's already there and rebuilding it to me it's tripping down the establishment

[02:10:51] and then building it up in a way that is new which is almost like the cyclic idea of regrant i love heroes that go through all the deals and they come back on the other end completely changed

[02:11:00] that's more exciting and interesting you can never go back from that yeah so i would say that um i think you're right i think that um it it you know based reboot Thor character who is now

[02:11:17] this much more interesting character he is experienced a lot of grief he has um i mean if you think about it well he's sort of dead at this point both parents are dead he is kind of reunited with Loki he knows local events would be

[02:11:32] tram again but he slots his hammer like asguard is gone um his character is also re-invisioned as extreme funny um which is new which is kind of carry through um and other than just the

[02:11:46] super serious dude in the really long blonde wig the um the one of the producers Brad winter bruh bomb like in regrant influence in impact on larger MCU similar to civil like uh the winter

[02:12:05] soldier did saying um it was basically like how winter soldier broke down shield like just break right so it breaks down and sets up the event the events for in vitty war but

[02:12:17] the other thing i notice there's a lot of continuity that we could you know just to highlight a few things so the um in the opening scene Thor references having fought robots on earth which is

[02:12:32] not all tron um the you know the kind of wait for it moment while he's waiting for me older rye was kind of like shades of Iron Man 3 we're Tony's waiting for the Martin 42 armor show up

[02:12:46] there's lots of references to to dark world if you will the friend from work you know age of all tron like um and so when you watch it like that's one of the things it really jumped out

[02:12:58] me it's like they oh they do a really good job of like picking up pieces from prior movies, little pens or just you know integrating them into the movie and then you know laying the path

[02:13:09] for which we'll see in a post credit scene and we'll see in um in future movies as well so yeah it's interesting coming off the heels of spider-man which could be its own bubble movie right it you could

[02:13:21] watch that with no prior knowledge and pretty much get everything right you this one you is interesting because you don't have to have seen everything I don't I think you could probably watch Thor

[02:13:34] Ragnarok in a vacuum without any MCU knowledge and enjoy it but I don't think um but I think that it also serves you so well for being a big MCU fan for having watched all these movies

[02:13:52] it you you get served very well by this movie which is another which is something that they need right like ultimately as we move forward we get into the point where it's unsustainable to watch the whole

[02:14:06] MCU before the next movie comes out and so I think that this this did that this married that very well yeah yeah I would say so and so on I think that um I think that that that

[02:14:26] tacketed a very good job of again like you're said here's a standalone movie I mean you had a pretty difficult I mean if you think about it had take existing characters not involved in the project before

[02:14:39] it all you're kind of you're kind of given this history landscape and like how do you reimagine it how do you make it interesting and so what he did I really makes this that's why

[02:14:50] this makes this one of the better MCU films absolutely um let's before we get over to our full overall ranking and all that stuff we like to take a minute we like to talk about MVPs

[02:15:04] we try not to draft anybody we've drafted before I think both of us have picked Thor before at some point or another no no neither of us have wow um who's off the table okay so bad

[02:15:19] news full stack is off the table for you and in dark world you picked Loki okay I picked Loki in Thor and then I picked Dr. Eric Selvig in dark world okay

[02:15:35] so well I will do the gentlemanly thing and I will give you first pick so who is your MVP for this movie it's Thor it's time closed like he's so good in this movie he he you know to I thought it was

[02:15:54] I think he liked the role more I think I get the sense that he not I get sense I remember reading he didn't love how his character was portrayed after the first Thor and the Avengers movies

[02:16:05] he's very serious he's like kind of very one-dimensional and now he is funny he experiences grief he just it's just he just immune his character a lot more and you while you can imagine other people playing

[02:16:20] Thor I don't think like I don't know who's the who's the wrestler from the WWE F who they want to know oh yeah what's the Christianerco? No what's the name is married to um what's the

[02:16:35] name's daughter who's the CEO now oh oh yeah anyway um I don't I don't I think he's made the character himself and this is you know well we'll talk about ranking like the MVPs for different phases

[02:16:49] like he's gonna be pie up there yeah that's fair that's fair um I am gonna go in this one a little bit to stay separate from David but also I I loved Corgue in this movie and I think

[02:17:05] I think Corgue is a is absolutely my pick for MVP in this one yeah on when watching it again his character probably jumps out the most I mean he's in the movie you know it's funny

[02:17:20] he meant like he was originally um barely gonna be in the movie and then I think his is one of the characters who got a lot more time and in fact in terms of screen time he gets more than like

[02:17:32] high-end-all or anti-hopkins but in the you know five minutes he's in the movie makes a big impact oh yeah absolutely absolutely um well let's let's move over here to our overall impression or

[02:17:49] overall ranking uh anybody knew to the show um we like to talk about this in thirds right so there's about at this point I think we're at almost 33 projects if not a little bit more than that one yeah

[02:18:01] in the MCU so you're looking at like a top top 11 12 middle 11 12 bottom 11 12 kind of situation so rather than trying to decide you nail down exactly where in that big list of all the projects

[02:18:22] this one lands we like to kind of pin it in a third and and for those who are brand new to the show I always put everything in the top top third that's kind of just my my role here so um but before

[02:18:35] I do that David uh where where are you placing this one it is very comfortable in the top third it's funny it's got good action the CGI is good the pace is good the led zeppelin song which they

[02:18:51] use twice as fantastic the costumes we normally talk about that in a lot of some of these but the costume is very good so car seemed you know the you know and and from just visually like things

[02:19:06] like the the Valkyrie scene so car is the troll yeah like that's really really really well done my concern with rewatching it was one of the humor like overpower the rest will overpower

[02:19:22] the story right it didn't do it it comes close because it is very funny but it's still very enjoyable and even though I've heard certain jokes a bunch of times still laugh you know what

[02:19:37] one joke they didn't make which one there was no jokes about murinals got so cheap of you we couldn't get through a Thor episode without it and I was sitting here I'm like I loaded this

[02:19:56] out onto the soundboard you're not gonna we never got there I'm like this baby I don't care if it's post-preditsy and I'm just gonna drop this in there there was no mural there's no

[02:20:07] perfect point to bring it in but I love moving how about you yeah I loved it too and actually murinal joker side it is cool to see Thor fighting without mule man right the he spent

[02:20:21] the vast majority of this movie not locked behind his signature weapon and so that kind of that that freeze up a like this was such a of a different take on Thor from weapons he used to

[02:20:37] the comedy that he brings um to being the fish out of water in a place that is nothing but fish out of water right the trash planet is literally people from all over the universe so it's not

[02:20:50] like on earth where he's the odd man out is everybody is from someplace else um which kind of just allowed some more creative decisions and I and I love it I I will put this

[02:21:05] in top third I would put this in top third even after my revelation that hey I'm I'm running out of top third places um I would say this is probably going to stay in the top third if I had

[02:21:17] to guess when we get to our phase when we get to our phase breakdown and I have to start making difficult decisions about what actually lives in the top third I think this will make the cut ultimately

[02:21:33] would you put this in like top five films or is it just kind of like right outside that? I'm thinking through the whole MCU right now and my gut reaction is it would be close to like fifth

[02:21:49] um just just and and without spending too much time on it and not trying to like actually break this down right now um I think it would probably come in right around that fifth spawn so you're seeing like a like a Jason Tatum type player's like really good

[02:22:05] you know maybe a fifth could be six seventh eighths best play and like but certainly not like top four got it you have you have by my count Ryan one left one spot left in the top uh uh top rack top third

[02:22:19] and before we're watching them there are one two three movies left in this phase that all could take up that spot so here we are you better uh better watch your ass Captain America first of

[02:22:33] venture you might get bumped down my man oh man all right David well before we get out of here anything else you want to dad uh no I just this is a really fun movie on rewatch

[02:22:51] and look for next one absolutely I totally agree and um so yeah check us out on your social media choice from your puny pod that's P.U. and Y. P.O.D. you're listening to us and probably

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[02:24:31] all right David let's talk about these uh mid and post credit scenes um so first the mid credit scene where we have uh Thor and Loki they're on board the statesman and they're working their way towards earth uh Loki asks Thor about the future

[02:24:50] Loki says do you really think it's a good idea to to go back to earth? Thor yes of course people on earth love me I'm very popular Loki let me rephrase that you think it's

[02:25:05] really a good idea to bring me back to earth Thor probably not to be honest I wouldn't worry brother I feel like everything's gonna work out just fine and then just then we see sanctuary too up here

[02:25:20] which is Thanos' warship and it it to like the thing that struck me here is just how absolutely massive Thanos' ship is because you have the entire population of asgard on the statesman and it is dwarfed by Thanos' ship. It does remind me of episode four

[02:25:45] Star Wars where you see the spaceship flying which looked really big and then just here comes oh yeah and stars right behind it so yeah it's genormous by the way for those who know where this is headed and your you were confused like my wife is

[02:26:01] I'm just gonna say this there are life pods on the state on the statesman I don't want to leave you hanging for six months while we get through other movies before we get

[02:26:11] to infinity it's not six months couple months uh there are life pods on the statesman that that is that is the official answer now people are so confused people are there's the few people who haven't like I imagine we have like one listener who hasn't

[02:26:29] watched the MCU before and like were there entry into the MCU and they're sitting there like what does he mean it has life pods what do you mean we have one listener that's not listening

[02:26:40] uh then we have the post credit scene we see the grandmaster emerge from hiding on scar by literally rolling out of a ship he's eventually found by rebels all that he tries to convince

[02:26:56] him they should thank him because if it wasn't for him they'd have nothing to rebel against and grandmaster says and what is it almost certainly another Jeff Goldblum in the top scene

[02:27:09] I just I gotta say I'm proud of you all this revolution has been a huge success yay us pat on the back pat on the back come on no meet me too because I've been a big part of it

[02:27:23] can't have a revolution without some no overthrow so uh you're welcome and it's a tie it's so good yeah that's good i love Jeff Goldblum in this movie like oh it's great all right y'all well thank you again for joining us

[02:27:47] I mentioned earlier this is in two parts so if you listen to this and you're like wait where's the rest of the movie or where's the rest of the information I like it's in part one I may actually

[02:27:56] end up splitting it differently than I promised earlier so past Ryan he made a promise that you can't keep so um maybe split up a little bit differently but uh but yeah uh with that all being said

[02:28:12] check us out next month when we do black Panther also check us out for the monthly bugle we just finished up X-Men 97 and did a whole bunch of discussion around deadpool and I think

[02:28:27] no not quite I was gonna say by our next monthly bugle deadpool should be out but that'll be in two monthly bugles um so the June one we'll see if there's any news to go over but uh check us out there

[02:28:42] other than that we'll see you later bye y'all