Puny Pod | Phase 3 Episode 3 - Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 (Part 2)

[00:00:00] Hey puny pod listeners, Ryan texted me and asked me to record this real quick while I'm out on the road with Uncle Jeremy.

[00:00:06] Ryan and David are idiots who forgot to record an extra stinger here so they just want to remind you that you should listen to part 1 of this episode first.

[00:00:15] On with the show. Fresh bait.

[00:00:18] Hi there!

[00:00:20] So then we see the expansion in action as Peter powers up the planet.

[00:00:25] It turns out that the fragment that we saw implanted at the beginning of the movie was also implanted on several other planets, countless other planets.

[00:00:35] Once he has enough energy, ego begins to activate them and his fragments expand to replace the whole planet, making it an extension of ego himself.

[00:00:49] This also kills everything on the planet at the same time.

[00:00:54] We see the fragment left behind the Dairy Queen in Missouri expanding and overwhelming everyone in its path, including James and Sean Gunn's mom and dad who are taking pictures as we mentioned before.

[00:01:09] As well as actually Peter's grandpa, he's driving away from the pod as it kind of lifts his SUV up.

[00:01:16] He's the only one with any sense, let's be honest.

[00:01:18] Like I'm not sticking around taking photos. Get the hell out of there.

[00:01:22] Let's get out.

[00:01:24] Gamora, Nebula, and Drax arrive at Ego's palace and they are joined by Team Rocket.

[00:01:33] Team Rocket sorry as a 90s kid that phrasing is kind of funny to me.

[00:01:43] Thank you Pokemon.

[00:01:45] Yondu crashes his pod into Ego, calling him a jackass in the as he goes, which releases Peter from Ego's energy tentacles and destroys Ego or at least the physical human like being.

[00:02:05] Drax yells, get out of the way smaller dumber Groot.

[00:02:11] Which Groot like beats up on Drax's shoulder as he goes.

[00:02:17] Gamora grabs Peter and basically says, I told you so.

[00:02:20] As everyone assemble or ambles into the pod and flies away.

[00:02:25] Happy ending to the movie.

[00:02:26] We're done.

[00:02:27] Thank goodness.

[00:02:28] Just kidding.

[00:02:29] Ego's alive.

[00:02:30] So they figure out they need to destroy Ego by accessing his brain within the planet's core.

[00:02:38] Ego temporarily captures the pod with his power tentacles.

[00:02:45] Peter climbs into the driver's seat and finds Yondu.

[00:02:50] They have a fun little exchange where Peter says that he's glad he was a skinny kid because that made him useful to Yondu.

[00:02:58] Yondu said that he didn't turn him over because Yondu found out what Ego was doing to the other children.

[00:03:11] Little bit of foreshadowing there.

[00:03:14] Peter flies the ship upwards or flies the ship towards the ground and fires up lasers to shoot through the planet's layers which they had previously used for the Bank of Ascavaria job.

[00:03:31] Rocket is excited to be able to charge more for the mission because they will be two time galaxy savers.

[00:03:42] Peter is incredulous that he would think of such a thing and Rocket says that he cares about the planets and buildings and animals but the people?

[00:03:50] Mantis says the crabby puppy is so cute.

[00:03:56] He makes me want to die.

[00:03:58] So funny.

[00:03:59] The scene where they're flying and they're shooting just struck me as like this would be just an amazing amusement park ride.

[00:04:06] Absolutely.

[00:04:07] Got me then I went down this long rabbit hole like rides I would make out of different MCU movies and then I just had to stop.

[00:04:14] But in the movie Rocket is referred to as a trash panda by Quill.

[00:04:21] Triangle faced monkey which I think is my favorite.

[00:04:24] A squirrel.

[00:04:26] Stupid fox.

[00:04:28] Talking woodland beast.

[00:04:30] A raboon.

[00:04:31] A raccoon.

[00:04:35] A rat.

[00:04:36] And a hedgehog.

[00:04:37] Now while the taser face joke got kind of old to me like the different names to Rocket never got old to me.

[00:04:46] It cracked me up every single time.

[00:04:48] Well it's funny too because in the universe like it's funny to think that these people know what these earth animals are but they don't know what a raccoon is.

[00:04:56] Oh totally.

[00:04:57] Completely.

[00:04:58] Right?

[00:04:59] Totally.

[00:05:00] So now Kraglin remains on the ship.

[00:05:03] He's listening to the Silver's wham bam shangling.

[00:05:09] We see Aisha and a huge sovereign fleet arrive in order to kill the Guardians.

[00:05:16] Kraglin tries to warn the Guardians but there is no reception as they arrive at Ego's core.

[00:05:24] So they kill Ego using the concentrated lasers on the ship basically drilling through into Ego's core.

[00:05:30] Just then that Aisha chick and her fleet arrive to destroy the ship's laser generators.

[00:05:38] So on to plan B.

[00:05:40] Rocket instead creates a plan using the batteries that they stole from the sovereign.

[00:05:45] The explosion will destroy Ego's entire nervous system and blow up the entire planet.

[00:05:49] So question I have for you is like how do we know this will work?

[00:05:53] Like raccoon seems really confident.

[00:05:56] Rocket seems really confident that this will happen and this will work according to the plan.

[00:06:01] And maybe this is just the theme of the Guardians.

[00:06:03] Well we got 12% of a plan.

[00:06:05] Yeah, just gotta be confident for the other 80%.

[00:06:11] Yeah that was the only thing kind of, you know a lot of the times you gotta just suspend disbelief.

[00:06:17] There's just a little bit of a gap here.

[00:06:19] I'm like okay well sure.

[00:06:21] But how do you know Ego is not going to sense this is happening?

[00:06:25] How do you know that Ego hasn't made a replicant copy of himself on a sister planet or whatever?

[00:06:31] Anyway, whatever.

[00:06:33] Yeah I think it's one of those moments where you just, here's our plan we gotta roll with it.

[00:06:37] Let's go.

[00:06:39] Not to mention, you know, it kind of circles around.

[00:06:44] I think there's a pretty amazing plot device that's used a few times during this movie where like,

[00:06:48] you think about here in a second we're gonna see a skinny kid that can get into places that others can't come back.

[00:06:56] But here you also see kind of implanting something, like the fatal thing in somebody's brain, right?

[00:07:04] This is very much Ego's plan that ended up killing Peter's mother coming back full circle.

[00:07:13] Now it's a bomb instead of a tumor, right?

[00:07:15] It's the same thing.

[00:07:18] Mantis uses her powers to slow Ego down by putting him to sleep.

[00:07:22] Meanwhile Quill, Rocket and Groot go about planting the bomb.

[00:07:28] In order for it to work they will have to plant it on Ego's core.

[00:07:32] And they have no other choice but to send tiny Groot into Ego's core, plant the bomb and activate it.

[00:07:38] Which is just the best idea in the world.

[00:07:41] Clearly Groot is definitely up there.

[00:07:45] Can't even find a redfin.

[00:07:47] And this is, I think one of the funnier exchanges.

[00:07:53] Yeah. Quill joins the fight with the Sovereign fleet while Rocket is giving a tutorial on how to use the bomb to Groot.

[00:08:03] Do you want to do, which one do you want to do?

[00:08:05] I'll do Rocket. You can do Groot.

[00:08:08] Alright, so first you flick this switch, then this switch that activates it.

[00:08:13] Then you push this button which will give you five minutes to get out of there.

[00:08:17] Now whatever you do don't press this button because that will set off the bomb.

[00:08:23] Immediately and we'll all be dead.

[00:08:26] Now repeat back what I just said.

[00:08:28] I am Groot.

[00:08:30] Uh huh.

[00:08:31] I am Groot.

[00:08:33] That's right.

[00:08:35] I am Groot.

[00:08:37] No, no! That's the button that will kill everyone. Try again.

[00:08:41] I am Groot.

[00:08:43] Uh huh.

[00:08:45] I am Groot.

[00:08:46] Uh huh.

[00:08:48] I am Groot.

[00:08:49] No! That's exactly what you just said. How is that even possible?

[00:08:53] Which button is the button you're supposed to push? Point to it.

[00:08:57] No!

[00:09:01] And you can hear Bradley Cooper cracking up in the voiceover.

[00:09:05] I listened to this a couple times and you can just hear him cracking up.

[00:09:09] It's so good. It's so good.

[00:09:11] So then Quill rolls up to the little window and he has this little conversation with Rocket

[00:09:22] and Rocket ends up asking him for some tape.

[00:09:26] So that they can cover up the button they don't want to press.

[00:09:31] And Peter goes,

[00:09:33] No! I don't have any tape. Let me check.

[00:09:35] Yo, Yondu! Do you have any- ow!

[00:09:37] Do you have any tape?

[00:09:39] Gamora, do you have any tape?

[00:09:41] Tape!

[00:09:43] Ah, never mind.

[00:09:45] Ow! Drax, do you have any tape?

[00:09:47] Yes, Scotch tape would work.

[00:09:49] Then why did you even ask if Scotch tape would work if you don't have any tape?

[00:09:54] Nobody has tape!

[00:09:56] Not a single person has tape?

[00:09:58] Says Rocket.

[00:10:01] Nope!

[00:10:03] I also love that he says,

[00:10:05] Did you ask Nebula?

[00:10:07] Well, I said, well, I asked.

[00:10:09] I came up with what it was.

[00:10:11] Yondu was right next to her.

[00:10:13] He called him a liar.

[00:10:15] It's funny.

[00:10:17] It's stuff like that that makes the movie work.

[00:10:19] It really does.

[00:10:21] So as Rocket and Peter continue to bicker,

[00:10:25] Baby Groot figures he's done with this.

[00:10:27] So he just takes the device,

[00:10:29] runs off while Rocket's back is turned.

[00:10:31] Rocket sees Groot and the bomb and simply says,

[00:10:33] We're all gonna die.

[00:10:35] We're all gonna die.

[00:10:37] Aisha and the Sovereign are set to destroy the ship containing Yondu and Nebula

[00:10:41] before Nebula powers up the laser generator

[00:10:43] and Yondu destroys all the Sovereign ships.

[00:10:45] This was really cool.

[00:10:47] You know, this is Nebula completing her turn towards kind of hero, right?

[00:10:51] She sort of sacrificed herself.

[00:10:54] I mean, she doesn't die, but she potentially sacrifices herself

[00:10:58] to destroy all the Sovereign ships.

[00:11:00] Gamora escapes the exploding pod,

[00:11:03] followed shortly by Peter and Yondu,

[00:11:05] who are slowly lowering to the ground.

[00:11:07] And Peter is using his rocket boosters while Yondu

[00:11:11] is holding onto his arrow with his heels together suspiciously.

[00:11:15] And then he's just going to go back to the ship

[00:11:18] and he's going to go back to the ship.

[00:11:20] And then he's just going to go back to the ship.

[00:11:22] And Peter says,

[00:11:24] You look like Mary Poppins.

[00:11:26] Yondu, is he cool?

[00:11:28] Peter, hell yeah, he's cool.

[00:11:31] Yondu, I'm Mary Poppins, y'all!

[00:11:37] This scene, by the way,

[00:11:39] after like the first time you see it,

[00:11:41] whatever, but now,

[00:11:43] like when you watch this on rewatch,

[00:11:45] this one gets me,

[00:11:47] like this one gets me misty eyed

[00:11:49] when you're watching this.

[00:11:52] When Yondu's like doing the Mary Poppins thing,

[00:11:54] because you know what's coming next.

[00:11:56] Yeah.

[00:11:58] So then a big CGI action sequence ensues.

[00:12:02] Yondu requests extraction from Craglin in five minutes.

[00:12:06] Peter puts his suit on Drax,

[00:12:10] who flies up with Mantis when he arrives,

[00:12:12] yelling,

[00:12:14] Ow, my nipples!

[00:12:16] And just before that, actually,

[00:12:19] they do a kind of a send up of the Avengers circle.

[00:12:25] That ends in Mantis just getting absolutely destroyed

[00:12:29] by like a falling rock.

[00:12:31] Yeah, that was funny. I like that.

[00:12:33] So Drax flies out with Mantis.

[00:12:35] That part was good.

[00:12:37] Yeah.

[00:12:38] And then Ego awakens and begins lashing out.

[00:12:41] Nebula saves Gamora after she falls through a rift in the ground.

[00:12:45] Get over it, she says.

[00:12:48] Yondu uses his arrow to fight back against Ego's celestial tentacle attacks.

[00:12:54] Guardians try to make their escape to the extraction point,

[00:12:57] but are thwarted by Ego.

[00:12:59] Ego is slowly killing everybody.

[00:13:01] If you are claustrophobic,

[00:13:03] this part of the movie is going to drive you nuts

[00:13:05] because everybody is just getting crushed by these planetary rocks.

[00:13:09] Yeah.

[00:13:10] Ego impales Peter again,

[00:13:12] uses him like a battery which powers the expansion back up.

[00:13:15] We see several shots of cities on different planets,

[00:13:18] including the one in Missouri,

[00:13:20] getting destroyed by the expanding fragments

[00:13:22] which overwhelm everything and everyone in its path.

[00:13:30] Yeah.

[00:13:31] All looks lost.

[00:13:32] I was thinking right now like that power stone

[00:13:34] might have come in pretty handy right now.

[00:13:37] Yeah.

[00:13:38] Yeah.

[00:13:40] All looks lost until Peter channels his heart

[00:13:45] and taps into his celestial powers to fight against Ego.

[00:13:49] He not only frees the Guardians who have been buried under the rock,

[00:13:53] but he also stops the expansion

[00:13:55] and finally builds his giant Pac-Man.

[00:14:03] Complete with sound effect too.

[00:14:05] Yeah, that's great.

[00:14:06] No, the way in which it was described is like

[00:14:10] basically suffocating and enveloping people

[00:14:12] into the plant, into his core.

[00:14:15] So they're being engulfed by rocks and so forth.

[00:14:19] There was this scene where Drax was holding up Mantis

[00:14:23] to try to hold her above his head.

[00:14:25] This very kind of heroic moment of trying to save her

[00:14:28] which is very touching.

[00:14:30] Again, it builds forward, expands upon this relationship

[00:14:34] which we see just in the span of one movie.

[00:14:36] But they do a really good job

[00:14:38] versus other movies where you can barely sense

[00:14:41] the relationship developed between two people.

[00:14:43] I thought it was really well done.

[00:14:45] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:14:48] So Groot is also freed and somehow manages to plant the bomb

[00:14:53] at the center of Ego's core and activate it.

[00:14:56] Rocket and Groot encounter Yondu who tells them to go to the ship.

[00:15:01] Rocket hands Yondu a single space suit and an arrow rig.

[00:15:06] Groot welcomes him to the frickin' Guardians of the Galaxy

[00:15:10] except he didn't use the word frickin'.

[00:15:13] On the ship we see Nebula, Gamora and Mantis.

[00:15:18] As Rocket and Groot arrive, Gamora asks Rocket where Peter is

[00:15:26] and grabs a gun in order to go rescue him.

[00:15:28] Rocket stuns Gamora to prevent her from getting herself killed

[00:15:32] trying to save Peter stating,

[00:15:34] I can only afford to lose one friend today.

[00:15:37] Which by the way, if you're caught up in the MCU

[00:15:40] that hits so hard.

[00:15:42] Guardians of Galaxy 3, Infinity War, that's tough.

[00:15:47] Yeah, it's rough.

[00:15:49] The ship begins to take off as Drax repeatedly is screaming

[00:15:57] Rocket, where's Quill?

[00:16:00] Quill and Ego continue to fight before the bomb finally detonates

[00:16:04] and kills Ego whose corporeal body turns into dust.

[00:16:08] This also makes Peter just like everyone else

[00:16:14] but what's so wrong with that?

[00:16:18] More importantly, the planet is going to explode.

[00:16:21] Quill appears doomed as everything explodes around him

[00:16:25] until Yondu arrives and uses the thrusters to save Quill

[00:16:28] and fly the two of them away from the planet

[00:16:30] before the explosion destroys them.

[00:16:33] Yondu sees Peter as his own son

[00:16:38] having kept him as a child to spare him the fate of Ego's other progeny.

[00:16:44] Yondu says,

[00:16:46] in probably one of the best quotes,

[00:16:50] He may have been your father, boy, but he wasn't your daddy.

[00:16:54] This next part just absolutely will destroy you.

[00:17:00] Before leaving Ego's atmosphere,

[00:17:04] Yondu gives Peter the space suit protecting Peter from the vacuum of space

[00:17:09] but also giving up his own life in the process.

[00:17:12] When Peter realizes what Yondu has done,

[00:17:14] he repeatedly screams,

[00:17:16] No!

[00:17:17] before trying to tear the space suit off and give it to Yondu.

[00:17:20] Yondu cups Peter's face in his hands

[00:17:24] as he dies like a there-there head pat,

[00:17:28] leaving Peter clutching his body and crying.

[00:17:32] This is very, very close to what Peter did for Gamora

[00:17:39] back on Nowhere in the first movie.

[00:17:44] But yeah, this was intense.

[00:17:47] It was, the reaction from Chris Pratt during this scene

[00:17:54] was really very genuine and real.

[00:17:58] His father died during the filming

[00:18:01] and so he used it to channel this scene.

[00:18:04] And so what you see is this very kind of raw

[00:18:08] and real expression of grief.

[00:18:11] And he's like, he's screaming and he's stuttering and he's crying.

[00:18:15] And it's just, ah man.

[00:18:17] And he is having the very same reaction he did when his mother died

[00:18:22] at the actor who played young Peter Quill in that movie.

[00:18:28] Just really, really emotional.

[00:18:32] It was originally going to be that Gamora

[00:18:35] was going to be killed off instead of Yondu.

[00:18:38] But was talked out of it by Kevin Feige.

[00:18:40] That was Gunn's intention.

[00:18:42] And then he also felt that Yondu's death was a more natural way

[00:18:47] of progressing the story.

[00:18:49] But yeah, that scene where he's cupping him

[00:18:53] and he's kind of tapping him that there, there.

[00:18:56] I was like, oh god, that was tough.

[00:19:02] Yeah, it was brutal.

[00:19:05] And I will say that that's why the Mary Poppins scene on Rewatch,

[00:19:09] it gets you because you know this is what's coming.

[00:19:12] And that Mary Poppins scene is ultimately the last moment of

[00:19:19] the Yondu that we know and love

[00:19:21] throughout the first couple of movies.

[00:19:23] Kind of the comedic, hard ass if you will.

[00:19:29] Yeah, yeah.

[00:19:31] So very, very...

[00:19:34] But I mean good news, this is the last Guardians movie

[00:19:37] which we'll deal with.

[00:19:39] This is going to become a trope.

[00:19:42] Guess where Ryan cried in this movie?

[00:19:44] I'll tell you where I cried.

[00:19:45] It's coming up.

[00:19:46] The Guardians then hold a small funeral for Yondu.

[00:19:50] So and it is small.

[00:19:52] It's just basically the Guardians, you know,

[00:19:54] plus Nebula, Craglin and Mantis.

[00:19:58] That's it.

[00:19:59] Like all the other Ravagers are gone.

[00:20:02] So we see...Ravagers, sorry.

[00:20:04] We see...so they've created a funeral pyre

[00:20:07] which is decorated with candles and flowers

[00:20:10] and the miniature figures that Yondu collected

[00:20:13] like the glass frog and the troll doll from the first movie.

[00:20:18] And then he has what I had described as kind of Ravager bands.

[00:20:22] I keep saying Ravager.

[00:20:23] Ravager bands which are placed over his body,

[00:20:26] over his eyes, over his mouth

[00:20:28] before Peter delivers a very kind of touching eulogy.

[00:20:34] He says,

[00:20:58] And then he's tearing up and he said,

[00:21:01] I had a pretty cool dad.

[00:21:03] What I'm trying to say here is sometimes that thing

[00:21:05] you're searching for your whole life

[00:21:07] is right there by your side all along

[00:21:09] and you don't even know it.

[00:21:11] And yeah, that was...do you hear that?

[00:21:14] And it's just a very, very touching scene.

[00:21:17] Yeah.

[00:21:19] Nebula like during the scene,

[00:21:23] Nebula leaves and Gamora follows her.

[00:21:25] And they have a short conversation

[00:21:27] and Gamora steps forward to hug.

[00:21:30] She hugs Nebula.

[00:21:31] Nebula clearly has no idea how to hug

[00:21:33] and tearfully tells her that she'll always consider her as a sister.

[00:21:38] Nebula raises her arms

[00:21:40] and tries to return a hug for a second

[00:21:43] before quickly leaving and flying away to fight.

[00:21:45] Thanos, well, Gamora looks sadly after her.

[00:21:50] And then we see Kraglin presenting Peter with a gift.

[00:21:55] It's the Zune,

[00:21:57] which is quote,

[00:21:58] the latest thing people on earth are listening to

[00:22:01] and carries 300 songs.

[00:22:03] And Peter's face is like,

[00:22:07] what?

[00:22:08] 300?

[00:22:09] And I don't know if you remember,

[00:22:10] but I remember at the time when things like

[00:22:12] the earliest iPod came out,

[00:22:14] you're like,

[00:22:15] Hey, this holds 400 songs.

[00:22:16] And your mind is blown away.

[00:22:17] Like, what?

[00:22:18] I felt so seen in this movie because I was a Zune guy.

[00:22:22] I carried a Zune.

[00:22:23] I think I had two or three Zunes.

[00:22:26] They were the white one.

[00:22:28] And I think I went through two generations with Zune.

[00:22:31] I was a big Zune guy.

[00:22:32] So when they,

[00:22:34] by this point,

[00:22:36] by 2016,

[00:22:37] it was like,

[00:22:38] this was like a joke,

[00:22:40] right?

[00:22:41] The Zune was a little bit more of a joke.

[00:22:43] It was kind of the butt of a lot of jokes.

[00:22:45] I was like,

[00:22:46] Oh yeah,

[00:22:47] Zune!

[00:22:48] Look at it.

[00:22:49] That's my thing.

[00:22:51] So they,

[00:22:52] so they picked it up.

[00:22:53] They had,

[00:22:54] so it was discontinued 2012.

[00:22:56] They picked it up at some point in time.

[00:22:58] And I don't know what the plan was to give it to Quill.

[00:23:03] The question I had was,

[00:23:06] I think it was,

[00:23:07] I think it was a joke.

[00:23:08] I think it was a joke.

[00:23:09] I think it was a joke.

[00:23:10] The question I have is,

[00:23:13] do you think that Zune was loaded with music or do you think that they put

[00:23:18] music on there?

[00:23:19] Cause Quill only has a couple of cassette tapes.

[00:23:22] Right?

[00:23:23] So you're talking like 30 songs tops,

[00:23:26] right?

[00:23:27] Right.

[00:23:28] So I don't know.

[00:23:29] I just thought it was.

[00:23:30] Well, the question becomes,

[00:23:31] do they have a USB port and the Zune manager program to be able to add

[00:23:36] music to it?

[00:23:38] Okay,

[00:23:39] let's just not ruin this for people.

[00:23:42] No,

[00:23:43] I do think like,

[00:23:45] yeah,

[00:23:46] it and the Zune actually gets a little bit more shine.

[00:23:49] There's a few more like we updated it kind of things that will happen in

[00:23:54] later movies and such.

[00:23:56] I do think what's interesting here is the song that is queued up,

[00:24:00] which ostensibly would have been what Yondu was listening to on his way

[00:24:06] to get to Peter, right?

[00:24:08] You would think that since it was like the next song on the playlist,

[00:24:12] Oh,

[00:24:13] when he pressed play in the song came the father and son.

[00:24:15] Yeah.

[00:24:16] The father and son by Kat Stevens starts playing.

[00:24:18] That would mean Yondu was listening to that on his way to go save Peter

[00:24:22] or yeah.

[00:24:23] He that would,

[00:24:24] I think that'd be the presumption.

[00:24:25] I think it's possible that maybe someone else listened to it or maybe,

[00:24:28] but I think probably,

[00:24:30] I think you're probably right.

[00:24:32] We this is,

[00:24:33] this is the scene.

[00:24:34] This is the scene that got me.

[00:24:35] So we see Yondu's body cremated and his ashes are scattered across the

[00:24:40] stars.

[00:24:41] As Quillen group listened to Kat Stevens, father and son,

[00:24:44] the other ravager ships warp in and rocket had sent word to Yondu's

[00:24:51] ravager buddies who have re-accepted Yondu as one of their own.

[00:24:54] So they arrived to pay their final respects.

[00:24:57] And to their fallen comrade as part of the ravager funeral,

[00:25:02] the,

[00:25:03] the scene,

[00:25:04] like when Kraglin see like the emotional,

[00:25:09] when he sees him arrived.

[00:25:10] Yeah.

[00:25:11] Yeah.

[00:25:12] And he's responding.

[00:25:13] He like pounds his chest.

[00:25:14] Like that may be,

[00:25:15] that's part of the maybe tear up.

[00:25:16] Oh,

[00:25:17] that's the part of the maybe tear up.

[00:25:18] Like,

[00:25:19] because he,

[00:25:20] unlike anyone else more so than anyone else understands the symbolic

[00:25:25] importance of this moment of Yondu being re-accepted if he was,

[00:25:29] which,

[00:25:30] you know, on a first watch didn't quite get, but the,

[00:25:33] the spectacle, the ravager colors, it's the ornate amazing,

[00:25:36] like looks like a massive fireworks display.

[00:25:39] The,

[00:25:40] and then you have the great,

[00:25:42] the big fun ravager cameo scene where they all pay tribute and you

[00:25:47] got being Reims and Michelle, yo, like,

[00:25:49] she, you know,

[00:25:50] Gamora shares an unspoken thought of the ravager as a

[00:25:54] beautiful,

[00:25:55] on the inside.

[00:25:56] But the last scene where we see is rocket who didn't have a father,

[00:26:02] but Yondu was probably as close to a, you know,

[00:26:05] a parent in the very short experience that they've had with a

[00:26:10] single tier road rolling down his cheek.

[00:26:12] And so one of the things it was,

[00:26:14] it was interesting was the,

[00:26:16] the producers,

[00:26:17] Simon Hatt said that in Yondu's death,

[00:26:19] the ravagers had become,

[00:26:20] have become united and kind of talk about it later on and how they

[00:26:24] were kind of these separate fractions.

[00:26:26] There's the green and the red and so forth, the blue.

[00:26:28] But now it's like, they're all reunited again,

[00:26:30] which I thought was really very kind of pointy moment.

[00:26:32] So.

[00:26:33] Yeah.

[00:26:34] Yeah, for sure.

[00:26:35] And then we, we sort of roll credits, right?

[00:26:37] In the,

[00:26:38] in the, in the,

[00:26:39] in the,

[00:26:40] in the,

[00:26:41] in the,

[00:26:43] a little bit of tradition here.

[00:26:47] they move to the,

[00:26:48] gardens of the galaxy will return up to the very front.

[00:26:50] And then we get some other scenes, which well,

[00:26:52] for the,

[00:26:53] for listeners were considering those credits scenes.

[00:26:55] So we'll cover them after the credit music.

[00:26:57] That we usually play.

[00:27:01] So yeah,

[00:27:02] We do see,

[00:27:08] I did like that.

[00:27:09] We kind of,

[00:27:10] little bit there, but.

[00:27:14] But yeah. So that's our breakdown David.

[00:27:16] Anything to add before we get into

[00:27:19] our wrap up stuff? Let's dive into it.

[00:27:21] Let's dive into it. We've been chatting

[00:27:23] for awhile. We have we have this is a

[00:27:26] told us to go on, but I told you

[00:27:28] you're like maybe maybe we'll maybe

[00:27:30] we'll do the Bowie explaining thing

[00:27:32] and will just inexplicably cut it

[00:27:34] somewhere and. We will give you guys

[00:27:37] side A and side B, but.

[00:27:41] So I guess you know closing thoughts,

[00:27:44] you know? Why is this?

[00:27:47] Why is this movie significant David?

[00:27:49] Like what did this do for the MCU?

[00:27:52] So a couple things so the the

[00:27:54] movie is significant because obviously

[00:27:57] you have a director with a single

[00:28:01] vision towards these characters,

[00:28:03] right? And so this is this is post.

[00:28:06] The Marvel Creative Committee like

[00:28:08] wanting to like bring in notes for

[00:28:10] everything and you can tell this is

[00:28:11] a James Gunn only film like he

[00:28:13] obviously took some feedback from

[00:28:14] Fieke and others, but like for the

[00:28:15] most part he's just cooking the

[00:28:16] whole time it it introduced Mantis,

[00:28:21] which is a really key character

[00:28:22] builds up. This is very much a

[00:28:24] relationship movie. There isn't.

[00:28:28] I think one of the reasons why

[00:28:29] folks may not necessarily think

[00:28:31] of it as fondly or may not be

[00:28:32] in a lot of rewatch. At least

[00:28:33] for me is like there's not.

[00:28:34] There's not like a lot of action.

[00:28:37] Like if you were to say, hey,

[00:28:38] what's the most memorable action

[00:28:39] scene in the movie?

[00:28:40] And it's probably the opening one,

[00:28:41] right? The ego fight is kind

[00:28:44] of like. It's mostly the

[00:28:47] Ocean's 11 tribe kind of like,

[00:28:49] you know, planned to like drop

[00:28:50] the bomb at the core and blow

[00:28:52] up his brain and then blow up

[00:28:53] the planet like. But it's more

[00:28:57] it's more relational and so in

[00:28:59] that sense, it's very different.

[00:29:00] It's very it also introduces

[00:29:03] some poignancy in this movie,

[00:29:06] which we will see in future

[00:29:08] Guardians movies. And I would

[00:29:10] say that it's you know, gives

[00:29:12] a gives a a blueprint for

[00:29:16] or or is I'm sorry is.

[00:29:18] Proves that you can do this

[00:29:20] in a superhero movies have

[00:29:22] this very kind of these kind

[00:29:23] of poignant moments and it's

[00:29:25] not just the death scene.

[00:29:26] It's a lot of different scenes

[00:29:27] as the Mantis learning about

[00:29:29] the Drax's grief and and you

[00:29:34] know, you layer on top of that

[00:29:35] like fantastic music, fantastic

[00:29:38] soundtrack. It's just it's a

[00:29:40] it's a different film, but

[00:29:41] they prove it works and

[00:29:43] James Gunn knows what he's

[00:29:46] doing. Yeah.

[00:29:47] Yeah. And I think this also

[00:29:49] laid further groundwork because

[00:29:52] truly through phase three,

[00:29:54] you did have essentially two

[00:29:56] MCUs, right? I talked a

[00:29:57] little bit about this earlier

[00:29:58] on, but we're going to see

[00:30:00] more of this in Thor Ragnarok

[00:30:06] and and it really establishes

[00:30:09] this galactic MCU versus the

[00:30:12] Terran, if you will, or the

[00:30:14] Earthbound MCU that won't

[00:30:17] coincide until we get to

[00:30:19] Infinity War, right? Like

[00:30:20] they will stay separate. They

[00:30:21] will they will there is a

[00:30:25] cast of characters that are

[00:30:26] out in space doing their thing

[00:30:31] versus a cast of characters

[00:30:33] that is on Earth doing their

[00:30:34] thing and those very much

[00:30:37] ran parallel. And I think

[00:30:39] that's actually something

[00:30:40] interestingly enough that I

[00:30:44] think maybe as part of what's

[00:30:45] missing in current day MCU

[00:30:49] and why you know, maybe

[00:30:50] phase three worked a little

[00:30:51] bit better than current day

[00:30:52] MCU is yes, there's a lot

[00:30:55] of content, but they're

[00:30:56] telling these separate stories

[00:30:58] whereas in current day MCU

[00:31:00] they're trying to all tell

[00:31:01] the same story. And so

[00:31:02] you're telling you know,

[00:31:04] you had three movies slated

[00:31:05] to come out that were all

[00:31:06] telling Earthbound stories

[00:31:10] instead of essentially three

[00:31:13] movies coming out that that

[00:31:15] are part of two different

[00:31:16] storylines which one would

[00:31:19] argue maybe it's hard to

[00:31:20] keep track of two separate

[00:31:21] storylines, but I think it

[00:31:23] also, you know makes it

[00:31:25] so you can kind of eat a

[00:31:26] little bit over here, right?

[00:31:27] I want to see weird sci-fi

[00:31:29] stuff. Let's eat a little

[00:31:31] I want to see more traditional

[00:31:33] Earthbound superhero stuff.

[00:31:34] Let's go over here and

[00:31:35] watch this movie which I

[00:31:38] think is part of the

[00:31:40] success of phase three

[00:31:41] is they they really really

[00:31:43] well created these kind

[00:31:44] of two very separate areas

[00:31:48] within the MCU that

[00:31:49] wouldn't collide until a

[00:31:52] few more movies down the

[00:31:53] line. Yeah. Yeah, I

[00:31:54] think that's right. And I

[00:31:55] think like and again not

[00:31:56] to not to belabor the

[00:31:57] current phase stuff. I

[00:31:58] think they try to do you

[00:32:00] know some of the Galactic

[00:32:01] stuff in Loki, right?

[00:32:04] I just think they're I

[00:32:06] just think they're they

[00:32:08] are not quite I'm sure

[00:32:10] that they've captured

[00:32:12] their footing and and

[00:32:13] have a sense for what

[00:32:14] they want to do. I

[00:32:15] think their plan obviously

[00:32:17] phase current phase had

[00:32:19] to shift quite a bit.

[00:32:20] Yeah, but yeah, I

[00:32:22] think this does do a

[00:32:23] really good job. I

[00:32:24] mean Gun is getting

[00:32:26] complete control with

[00:32:27] the franchise, right?

[00:32:28] Like and this movie

[00:32:32] made me. Eager or

[00:32:35] makes should make one

[00:32:36] eager to see like the

[00:32:37] Chris the holiday special

[00:32:38] and volume three.

[00:32:41] Maybe not the first

[00:32:42] 30 minutes of volume

[00:32:43] three, but anyway,

[00:32:46] so getting ahead of

[00:32:47] ourselves. But yeah, I

[00:32:47] think that it it it

[00:32:51] proves again like

[00:32:53] the you could have a

[00:32:56] what is effectively

[00:32:57] this could be if this

[00:32:58] for the final Guardians

[00:32:59] movie great like it

[00:33:01] stands alone. It

[00:33:02] works well. Like you

[00:33:03] know, one of the

[00:33:05] things we've talked

[00:33:05] about before is like

[00:33:06] the interconnection the

[00:33:08] tissue which goes

[00:33:09] throughout the Marvel

[00:33:10] movies. Yeah, there's

[00:33:10] some things in here

[00:33:11] that we see in future

[00:33:12] movies that not just

[00:33:13] in Guardians, but other

[00:33:14] ones, but this can

[00:33:15] also stand on its own.

[00:33:16] That's kind of the

[00:33:17] great trick that the

[00:33:20] magic trick the gun pulls

[00:33:21] off in my mind.

[00:33:24] Absolutely.

[00:33:25] Absolutely.

[00:33:28] So as we as we have

[00:33:31] and let's see if we can

[00:33:32] break our trend.

[00:33:34] I think this movie

[00:33:35] will finally be one

[00:33:36] where we can actually

[00:33:37] have a pretty good

[00:33:37] discussion. There's no,

[00:33:39] you know, no-brainer

[00:33:40] slam dunk right away

[00:33:43] pick here.

[00:33:45] So we have a tradition

[00:33:46] of kind of picking an

[00:33:48] MVP. It doesn't have

[00:33:49] to be, you know, the

[00:33:50] most powerful character

[00:33:51] anything like that.

[00:33:52] It's just the overall

[00:33:53] MVP for the movie.

[00:33:56] And so I'm going to

[00:33:57] go ahead.

[00:33:58] I'm going to go first

[00:34:00] and I will.

[00:34:02] I want

[00:34:04] so I was thinking

[00:34:04] about it.

[00:34:05] We we don't want to

[00:34:07] pick anybody that

[00:34:08] we've already picked.

[00:34:09] I think the only one

[00:34:10] that I can't pick at

[00:34:11] this point is group.

[00:34:13] He was my picking

[00:34:14] Guardians one so can't

[00:34:16] pick him again.

[00:34:18] I'm going to go

[00:34:21] for this one.

[00:34:22] I usually don't pick

[00:34:23] villains, but I'm

[00:34:25] going to pick ego here.

[00:34:26] Yeah.

[00:34:27] I think ego like

[00:34:30] was so good.

[00:34:30] I love Kurt Russell

[00:34:32] as an actor like

[00:34:33] and right in

[00:34:34] in this time frame

[00:34:35] was Kurt Russell

[00:34:37] is joining like my

[00:34:38] favorite series

[00:34:39] because right around

[00:34:40] here is also when

[00:34:41] Fast and Furious 7

[00:34:42] came out which has

[00:34:43] Kurt Russell in it.

[00:34:46] And so I was stoked

[00:34:47] to see Kurt Russell

[00:34:48] in like the MCU.

[00:34:50] I also think that

[00:34:51] like he he

[00:34:52] portrayed ego in such

[00:34:55] an amazing way.

[00:34:57] It wasn't clear

[00:34:59] that he was this

[00:35:00] conniving bad guy

[00:35:01] the whole time.

[00:35:01] It was a

[00:35:03] it was a genuine

[00:35:05] twist if you

[00:35:06] hadn't seen the

[00:35:06] movie before it felt

[00:35:08] like a genuine

[00:35:09] twist and you

[00:35:10] saw this

[00:35:12] progressive arc

[00:35:13] towards bad,

[00:35:15] but he never

[00:35:16] saw himself as the

[00:35:17] bad guy, right?

[00:35:18] He always saw himself

[00:35:20] as as completing

[00:35:21] his life's purpose

[00:35:23] which I think was

[00:35:24] really really

[00:35:26] well done and

[00:35:27] just really

[00:35:28] well portrayed.

[00:35:30] Yeah, he was one of

[00:35:31] my two choices Kurt

[00:35:33] Russell's performance

[00:35:34] is really good.

[00:35:36] He the nuanced

[00:35:38] like

[00:35:39] charming

[00:35:41] nefarious like

[00:35:43] he did he was

[00:35:44] really really

[00:35:45] good. He was one of my

[00:35:46] two choices.

[00:35:47] My other choice

[00:35:48] my MVP I'm going to

[00:35:49] go with is Yondu.

[00:35:51] Yeah, that's that's

[00:35:52] yeah those are those

[00:35:53] are you too.

[00:35:54] I mean honestly those

[00:35:55] are your two

[00:35:56] I think most obvious

[00:35:57] choices.

[00:35:59] I'm pretty sure

[00:36:00] the Yondu will be a

[00:36:01] safe pick for future

[00:36:02] movies

[00:36:04] but I like you I've

[00:36:05] I've chosen evil

[00:36:06] characters in the past.

[00:36:08] I think

[00:36:09] I think both are really

[00:36:10] good choices.

[00:36:11] Yondu's character

[00:36:13] had and like you see

[00:36:14] growth you see humor you

[00:36:15] see anger you see

[00:36:17] sadness you see regret

[00:36:19] you see

[00:36:20] you know this kind of you

[00:36:21] see love right and so

[00:36:23] all that stuff comes

[00:36:24] across and it doesn't

[00:36:25] seem

[00:36:26] forced.

[00:36:28] You know we don't

[00:36:30] we don't have

[00:36:32] like we don't have

[00:36:33] a huge amount of scenes

[00:36:34] between

[00:36:35] Peter and Yondu

[00:36:37] we've seen it like

[00:36:37] building kind of over

[00:36:38] time you see gone do

[00:36:40] talking to

[00:36:41] rocket and you see

[00:36:43] that relationship grow

[00:36:44] I just thought like his

[00:36:45] was like really

[00:36:46] the I thought his

[00:36:47] performance was great.

[00:36:48] I thought his character

[00:36:49] is really important.

[00:36:50] I felt like he had a

[00:36:51] really good

[00:36:52] send-off arc.

[00:36:55] He's my MVP choice.

[00:36:57] Absolutely now I'm going

[00:36:58] to ask you in a

[00:37:00] slight

[00:37:01] deviation.

[00:37:02] We've not done this

[00:37:03] before but

[00:37:04] because there's so many

[00:37:05] great characters.

[00:37:06] I'm going to ask who

[00:37:07] would be your

[00:37:10] like runner-up MVP

[00:37:12] or or

[00:37:13] you know not

[00:37:15] best supporting

[00:37:16] MVP.

[00:37:17] Yeah, who would be your

[00:37:19] number two again?

[00:37:20] It's not you know,

[00:37:20] it's not going to be

[00:37:21] obviously like the main

[00:37:22] character.

[00:37:23] Who would you who

[00:37:23] would be your second

[00:37:24] choice?

[00:37:26] I think my second

[00:37:27] choice would be

[00:37:28] Drax.

[00:37:30] Okay.

[00:37:31] I think Drax

[00:37:34] and it's kind of hard

[00:37:35] to separate him from

[00:37:36] Mantis so like

[00:37:38] almost picking them as

[00:37:39] the same like a group

[00:37:40] character there but

[00:37:43] I think I think Drax

[00:37:45] and seeing his

[00:37:47] his growth and really

[00:37:49] getting he's not just

[00:37:50] this vengeance-filled

[00:37:52] rage monster that

[00:37:54] is out to kill everybody

[00:37:55] that we saw in the

[00:37:56] first movie.

[00:37:58] We get to see kind

[00:37:59] of the deeper side of

[00:38:00] him here

[00:38:01] and he really helps.

[00:38:04] I think he progresses

[00:38:05] the plot really well

[00:38:07] but not just in the

[00:38:07] sense of like let's

[00:38:08] progress it.

[00:38:09] He he

[00:38:10] he's an active

[00:38:11] participant in the

[00:38:12] movie I would say

[00:38:14] which is really cool

[00:38:15] to watch and really

[00:38:16] just cool to see that

[00:38:17] development

[00:38:19] movie over movie

[00:38:20] for that character.

[00:38:23] Yeah, it's really a

[00:38:24] choice.

[00:38:26] I I I you probably

[00:38:28] have been my

[00:38:29] I would consider him

[00:38:30] for an MVP but I

[00:38:31] chose him last time

[00:38:32] so I was going to

[00:38:33] pick him again

[00:38:34] but yeah his

[00:38:34] character development

[00:38:35] was really good.

[00:38:37] Yeah.

[00:38:39] So ones

[00:38:41] I would consider

[00:38:42] I really love

[00:38:43] Kraglin in this movie.

[00:38:45] Yeah, you know

[00:38:48] I

[00:38:51] I'm gonna go mantis

[00:38:52] I think

[00:38:53] other coin like

[00:38:56] hers was

[00:38:58] I think a more

[00:38:59] important role.

[00:39:01] She had to

[00:39:02] hear her character

[00:39:03] came out of nowhere

[00:39:04] so she has to

[00:39:04] establish herself right

[00:39:05] away.

[00:39:06] I think that

[00:39:08] you know what's kind

[00:39:09] of a little underrated

[00:39:10] is her acting

[00:39:14] Pomkleman to

[00:39:15] use acting

[00:39:15] while she has to

[00:39:16] convey you know

[00:39:17] humor and sadness

[00:39:19] and like

[00:39:21] all by all while

[00:39:22] while wearing this

[00:39:23] kind of crazy,

[00:39:24] you know bug eyes

[00:39:24] and they have like

[00:39:25] you know the

[00:39:26] yeah

[00:39:27] antenna that don't

[00:39:28] caught re

[00:39:28] you know that are not

[00:39:29] bill for decapitation

[00:39:30] purposes

[00:39:32] but she she

[00:39:33] teams well

[00:39:35] with Drax

[00:39:36] in what you would

[00:39:36] think is like an

[00:39:37] uncommon pairing

[00:39:38] and I thought like

[00:39:40] you know her character

[00:39:40] in here.

[00:39:41] The other part that I

[00:39:42] thought was we didn't

[00:39:43] touch upon it,

[00:39:43] but like her

[00:39:45] to see her power

[00:39:46] at one point in time

[00:39:47] like ego is

[00:39:48] waking up

[00:39:48] and he's like

[00:39:50] and Drax encourages

[00:39:51] her to like

[00:39:52] you know,

[00:39:52] she's like

[00:39:53] I'm not powerful

[00:39:54] enough and he

[00:39:54] like encourages her

[00:39:55] and she like

[00:39:56] summons the power

[00:39:57] to like

[00:39:58] to put him back

[00:39:58] to sleep

[00:39:59] and I think

[00:39:59] tracks is so like

[00:40:00] I didn't believe

[00:40:00] you could do that

[00:40:01] or something like

[00:40:02] like that

[00:40:03] and so I would

[00:40:04] I would put mantis

[00:40:05] I thought she was

[00:40:05] great.

[00:40:06] Yeah.

[00:40:07] I agree even

[00:40:08] though the writer

[00:40:08] hated her and

[00:40:10] she was not

[00:40:11] mantis.

[00:40:11] She would be my

[00:40:12] my runner up.

[00:40:14] So yeah,

[00:40:15] I think honestly

[00:40:16] like Guardians is

[00:40:17] the one where

[00:40:18] is the movie

[00:40:20] series

[00:40:21] that

[00:40:22] probably

[00:40:24] like

[00:40:25] we talked about it

[00:40:26] a little bit earlier

[00:40:27] with

[00:40:29] James Gunn

[00:40:29] and we talked about

[00:40:30] in the sense of

[00:40:31] like that

[00:40:32] that forest scene

[00:40:33] feeling very

[00:40:34] home alone.

[00:40:34] I think James Gunn

[00:40:36] has a very

[00:40:38] very very good eye

[00:40:39] for the

[00:40:42] core

[00:40:43] feelings principles

[00:40:45] etc.

[00:40:45] That that

[00:40:47] a

[00:40:48] property

[00:40:49] exhibits

[00:40:51] and so he took

[00:40:52] that from Guardians

[00:40:53] of the Galaxy

[00:40:53] right?

[00:40:53] He took these

[00:40:54] misfits

[00:40:55] that are in space

[00:40:56] and you know

[00:40:57] it's got a little

[00:40:58] bit of a humorous

[00:40:58] tinge to it

[00:41:00] that sort of thing

[00:41:03] and even though

[00:41:03] the characters

[00:41:04] are entirely

[00:41:04] different

[00:41:06] from the comics

[00:41:06] and there is

[00:41:07] a lot of

[00:41:08] difference from the

[00:41:08] comics.

[00:41:09] It doesn't

[00:41:09] feel inauthentic

[00:41:11] because

[00:41:13] the essence

[00:41:14] is so

[00:41:15] strongly carried

[00:41:16] over.

[00:41:16] Right.

[00:41:17] Yeah.

[00:41:19] So David tell me

[00:41:21] let's let's boil

[00:41:22] it all down

[00:41:23] let's get down

[00:41:23] to brass tacks.

[00:41:25] So we do a ranking

[00:41:26] here

[00:41:28] we do

[00:41:29] for anybody

[00:41:30] who's a new

[00:41:30] listener

[00:41:31] we do top

[00:41:32] third middle

[00:41:32] third bottom

[00:41:33] third

[00:41:34] there's about

[00:41:34] thirty

[00:41:35] there's a

[00:41:36] little over

[00:41:36] thirty projects

[00:41:37] so you're talking

[00:41:38] you know

[00:41:38] generally speaking

[00:41:39] top middle bottom

[00:41:40] ten you know

[00:41:41] kind of groups

[00:41:42] of ten there.

[00:41:45] David where

[00:41:46] are you put

[00:41:46] in this movie?

[00:41:48] So coming into

[00:41:49] it I

[00:41:51] you know we

[00:41:51] and we I think

[00:41:52] we kind of

[00:41:52] prefaced this

[00:41:53] earlier.

[00:41:53] I would have

[00:41:54] put this

[00:41:55] confidently like

[00:41:55] okay this is

[00:41:56] my middle

[00:41:56] third

[00:41:59] it's not

[00:41:59] my favorite

[00:42:00] Guardians movie

[00:42:01] it it lacks

[00:42:02] I think a lot

[00:42:03] of the action

[00:42:04] that I think

[00:42:05] you kind of

[00:42:05] come to expect

[00:42:06] in

[00:42:07] superhero film

[00:42:09] but on rewatch

[00:42:10] it's not really

[00:42:11] about that.

[00:42:11] It's the relationships

[00:42:13] it's the

[00:42:14] it's the

[00:42:15] advancement of

[00:42:16] these characters.

[00:42:17] It's the

[00:42:19] you know the

[00:42:20] you know the

[00:42:21] celebration

[00:42:22] the passing

[00:42:22] of yondu

[00:42:23] it's and so

[00:42:24] it's just it's not

[00:42:25] it's not end game

[00:42:26] it's not

[00:42:27] you know

[00:42:28] Winter Soldier

[00:42:29] it's just not

[00:42:30] it's just not

[00:42:31] you know so

[00:42:32] and

[00:42:34] so

[00:42:35] I think

[00:42:37] I

[00:42:39] I enjoyed it

[00:42:40] more on rewatch.

[00:42:41] I think

[00:42:42] doing a little bit

[00:42:43] more of the research

[00:42:45] made me appreciate

[00:42:47] the music

[00:42:48] the score

[00:42:49] the visuals

[00:42:50] knowing a little bit more how it was made

[00:42:51] like maybe appreciate

[00:42:52] it more

[00:42:55] I'm going to say

[00:42:57] it's

[00:42:59] I'm gonna put it

[00:43:00] I'm gonna put it

[00:43:01] in my

[00:43:02] top third

[00:43:03] but at the

[00:43:04] bottom

[00:43:05] range

[00:43:06] this is one I felt was kind of on the cusp

[00:43:09] so

[00:43:10] sort of like

[00:43:11] I think

[00:43:12] Ant Man was for me

[00:43:14] but I think it's better than Ant Man

[00:43:16] so that's why I'm gonna put it in the top for now

[00:43:18] how about you?

[00:43:20] Yeah that's fair

[00:43:21] that's fair

[00:43:22] kind of one of those bubble seats that

[00:43:23] you know as

[00:43:24] as the

[00:43:25] thirds kind of expand

[00:43:26] and contract

[00:43:27] or whatever it might

[00:43:28] bump into the middle

[00:43:30] I

[00:43:31] it's interesting because I had the same sort of thought process

[00:43:33] I was like

[00:43:34] this is

[00:43:35] probably bottom third

[00:43:36] bottom ten movies

[00:43:37] like

[00:43:38] wow

[00:43:39] there's

[00:43:40] and I want to be specific

[00:43:41] right?

[00:43:42] those bottom ten movies are not bad movies

[00:43:43] I think

[00:43:45] across the MCU especially

[00:43:46] even

[00:43:47] especially for myself

[00:43:48] I'm gonna say that

[00:43:50] there are maybe

[00:43:51] there is maybe one movie that I think is not

[00:43:54] in some way good

[00:43:57] no I can't even say that

[00:43:59] I can't even say that with a straight face

[00:44:00] I think every single

[00:44:01] MCU movie

[00:44:02] is

[00:44:03] is an enjoyable

[00:44:05] piece of media to watch

[00:44:07] and so when I say bottom third

[00:44:09] I'm not like

[00:44:10] trashing those movies

[00:44:11] I just think that there's probably

[00:44:12] ten

[00:44:13] or there's probably twenty movies better than them

[00:44:17] so that was my initial thought

[00:44:19] and

[00:44:20] I'm not gonna lie

[00:44:21] I

[00:44:23] I think

[00:44:24] this one ends up

[00:44:25] landing at the top end of the middle third

[00:44:27] so basically the same thing

[00:44:29] you said just

[00:44:30] my ranking is like

[00:44:31] it's number twelve instead of it being number eleven

[00:44:33] or whatever right?

[00:44:34] it's

[00:44:35] it's like right there

[00:44:36] at the top of the middle third

[00:44:38] it could see some

[00:44:40] you know with

[00:44:41] as more movies release

[00:44:42] it might

[00:44:43] bump into the top third

[00:44:44] it might

[00:44:45] stay in the middle third

[00:44:46] kinda

[00:44:47] as things go

[00:44:49] but I

[00:44:50] I do

[00:44:51] kind of put it at the

[00:44:52] in that middle third

[00:44:53] group

[00:44:54] and I

[00:44:55] and I think

[00:44:56] looking back on it

[00:44:58] I think

[00:44:59] I think why

[00:45:00] it

[00:45:03] it's suffered so much for me initially

[00:45:05] I was thinking about this

[00:45:07] I think part of it is

[00:45:09] like you said

[00:45:10] there's not a whole lot of action

[00:45:11] and we

[00:45:12] we are coming

[00:45:13] you think

[00:45:14] you put yourself in twenty sixteen shoes

[00:45:16] we are coming off of

[00:45:18] Civil War

[00:45:20] backed up to

[00:45:25] or

[00:45:26] yeah with like Civil War

[00:45:27] and

[00:45:29] Doctor Strange

[00:45:30] and Ant-Man

[00:45:32] and

[00:45:33] Age of Ultron

[00:45:34] that's kind of the run we're on

[00:45:36] and we're looking forward too

[00:45:38] because at this point they've started to get really confident

[00:45:40] so they're announcing movies out

[00:45:42] so you're looking ahead

[00:45:44] at Spider-Man Homecoming

[00:45:46] Thor Ragnarok

[00:45:48] Black Panther

[00:45:49] and

[00:45:51] this

[00:45:52] I would say

[00:45:53] is amongst that run

[00:45:55] you know from about Ant-Man

[00:45:57] we'll leave Age of Ultron off for the moment

[00:45:59] from like Ant-Man

[00:46:01] through to Infinity War

[00:46:03] I would say that this is probably my least favorite

[00:46:06] out of

[00:46:07] that run of movies

[00:46:09] but that's not to say it's a bad movie

[00:46:10] that is a

[00:46:12] phenomenally good run of movies

[00:46:16] that is a

[00:46:17] that is a

[00:46:18] straight banger

[00:46:19] banger after banger set of movies

[00:46:22] and so

[00:46:24] well yes this is probably my least favorite out of those

[00:46:26] I think those all of those

[00:46:28] movies could live

[00:46:30] somewhere from that like

[00:46:33] 13 to one

[00:46:35] frame

[00:46:37] yeah you know you swayed me

[00:46:38] I think this is

[00:46:40] because I coming in I was like this is a middle third

[00:46:43] it's a middle third and

[00:46:45] I think you're right

[00:46:47] when you when you

[00:46:48] because I you have to take the lens of

[00:46:50] what's coming down just in the rest of phase three

[00:46:53] and

[00:46:54] you know not to jump ahead but like

[00:46:56] both Avengers movies are better

[00:46:58] Thor, Ragnarok, Black Panther

[00:47:00] and so it just it

[00:47:02] I guess it's more of a testament for me to say like

[00:47:05] this on rewatch

[00:47:07] maybe this is the way to put it is

[00:47:09] this scored much better on rewatch

[00:47:12] than

[00:47:14] some of the movies some of the movies

[00:47:15] it's like you know what

[00:47:16] I've seen first Avenger

[00:47:17] or

[00:47:18] Winter Soldier

[00:47:19] it's great

[00:47:20] first watch

[00:47:21] it's great on the last watch

[00:47:22] and so

[00:47:23] that's a very little Delta

[00:47:25] but this one is the Delta was

[00:47:26] was much larger I think for me

[00:47:29] absolutely

[00:47:30] absolutely

[00:47:31] and if you are a listener who has not

[00:47:33] watched these

[00:47:34] this movie

[00:47:35] I would encourage you to go back

[00:47:36] and watch it one of our one of our listeners

[00:47:38] Eric

[00:47:39] who also is a host of

[00:47:40] like every other show

[00:47:42] on this network

[00:47:44] he recently was talking about

[00:47:46] how he that's his method

[00:47:48] he actually intentionally

[00:47:50] does not watch the movies until after

[00:47:52] listening to our episodes

[00:47:54] so

[00:47:55] you know definitely go

[00:47:56] I would encourage everybody to go revisit

[00:47:58] this movie

[00:47:59] I think this is probably one that you've either forgotten about

[00:48:02] or

[00:48:04] don't have great memories of

[00:48:06] and so I would encourage

[00:48:08] everyone to go

[00:48:09] give it a listen

[00:48:11] or give it a watch

[00:48:13] if you didn't watch it before the episode

[00:48:16] and really really enjoy it

[00:48:18] so yeah give yourself give yourself amnesia

[00:48:20] forget the film

[00:48:22] listen to this podcast

[00:48:24] then watch the movie

[00:48:25] there you go

[00:48:26] you're welcome America

[00:48:29] yeah so

[00:48:30] so remember to check us out on

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[00:48:34] we are literally everywhere

[00:48:37] and

[00:48:38] we're also on the discord

[00:48:40] link is always in the show notes

[00:48:42] go check out our other shows on the network

[00:48:45] like I mentioned I've mentioned him a couple times

[00:48:47] Eric

[00:48:48] he

[00:48:49] is a host on

[00:48:50] Ears Up

[00:48:51] which if you are a Parks fan

[00:48:52] they are about to score a huge interview

[00:48:56] they're about to interview Stan Freeze

[00:48:59] which actually they interviewed his son

[00:49:01] Josh Freeze

[00:49:02] who is now drumming with the Foo Fighters

[00:49:05] but

[00:49:07] they're going to interview

[00:49:08] Stan Freeze here soon

[00:49:10] they are

[00:49:12] they just did

[00:49:14] some really fun episodes

[00:49:16] so yeah go

[00:49:17] listen to

[00:49:18] Ears Up

[00:49:20] listen to Scraping the Vault

[00:49:22] they are getting back on the horse with their

[00:49:25] with their straight to video sequels

[00:49:27] they are coming out of their dealer's choice season

[00:49:30] where kind of during the holidays

[00:49:31] in the beginning of the year

[00:49:32] they let the host kind of pick a

[00:49:35] movie that isn't a straight to

[00:49:37] video sequel and watch those

[00:49:39] but now they're

[00:49:40] getting back into those straight to video sequels

[00:49:43] we also have Scraping the Vault

[00:49:44] which date

[00:49:45] or I'm sorry not Scraping the Vault

[00:49:46] the Supreme Resort

[00:49:47] which David you just appeared on an episode of

[00:49:49] I did

[00:49:50] I had to ride 10 miles to do it

[00:49:52] but yeah that's the only way they would let me on it

[00:49:55] hey we are the official Ears Up

[00:49:58] Run Disney Champion podcast so

[00:50:01] that was fun

[00:50:02] it was great to be on

[00:50:03] it was super fun

[00:50:04] we talked a little bit about the Run Disney event

[00:50:06] in Walt Disney World

[00:50:08] so yeah it was a good time

[00:50:10] yeah

[00:50:11] and then

[00:50:12] and usually what they do is kind of land

[00:50:14] v-load

[00:50:15] ride

[00:50:16] ride v-ride type of stuff with Disneyland

[00:50:18] and Disney World

[00:50:19] it's a really great podcast

[00:50:20] really great friends of the show

[00:50:22] and this

[00:50:23] when we do a land

[00:50:24] v-world

[00:50:25] run Disney version

[00:50:27] nice

[00:50:28] nice

[00:50:30] and then

[00:50:32] we also have Bantha Milk

[00:50:33] there are

[00:50:34] there are Star Wars Sister pod

[00:50:37] so they do

[00:50:38] Star Wars-y stuff

[00:50:39] they're getting done with Bad Batch

[00:50:41] I'm sure they'll get on to Accolade

[00:50:42] and then

[00:50:43] I also do want to give a quick shout out

[00:50:45] we mentioned them in the podcast

[00:50:47] but

[00:50:48] you know given the content of this movie

[00:50:49] I feel like the audience overlap

[00:50:51] may be pretty great here

[00:50:53] Dan

[00:50:54] and Eric

[00:50:55] who are both on the Supreme Resort

[00:50:57] they are doing another podcast

[00:50:59] called

[00:51:00] Bowie Splaining

[00:51:02] where they

[00:51:04] break down

[00:51:05] David Bowie albums

[00:51:07] so it's

[00:51:08] it's a great podcast

[00:51:10] and

[00:51:11] they're not doing them chronologically

[00:51:12] because

[00:51:13] they were smart

[00:51:14] and they decided that

[00:51:16] Dan who is a Bowie

[00:51:17] super fan

[00:51:19] would decide the order of albums

[00:51:20] and so it's a little bit out of

[00:51:22] out of order but

[00:51:24] I would definitely go

[00:51:25] go check that

[00:51:26] that podcast out

[00:51:27] it's not on the network

[00:51:28] but you liked the

[00:51:29] the soundtrack of this

[00:51:31] movie

[00:51:32] there's a good chance you are

[00:51:33] also a David Bowie fan

[00:51:34] and

[00:51:35] I would definitely go

[00:51:36] go check that

[00:51:37] that podcast out

[00:51:38] it's not on the network

[00:51:39] but

[00:51:40] you are also a David Bowie fan

[00:51:42] which means

[00:51:45] that all being said

[00:51:48] remember

[00:51:49] puny pod

[00:51:50] will return

[00:51:52] with Spider-Man

[00:51:53] Homecoming

[00:52:09] All right David

[00:52:10] so there are so many

[00:52:12] preish credit scenes

[00:52:14] post credit scenes

[00:52:15] mid credit scenes

[00:52:17] we're going to try and go through them here

[00:52:19] let's try and get through it

[00:52:21] first one

[00:52:22] we see Kraglin

[00:52:24] and Kraglin is using

[00:52:25] Yondu's prototype fin

[00:52:27] to practice with the arrow

[00:52:30] try

[00:52:31] he gets it to float

[00:52:32] and then

[00:52:34] he ends up sending it over

[00:52:35] and stabbing Drax

[00:52:37] like in the throat with it

[00:52:38] that's pretty funny

[00:52:39] pretty great

[00:52:40] I do wonder though

[00:52:41] how he got the prototype fin

[00:52:42] I think you saw in the notes

[00:52:43] like

[00:52:44] Yondu was buried with it

[00:52:45] or went through

[00:52:46] cremation with it

[00:52:48] a little bit of a net but whatever

[00:52:49] he probably doesn't have a spare

[00:52:50] I'm guessing he does not have a spare

[00:52:52] I don't know

[00:52:53] I ordered those things

[00:52:54] like

[00:52:55] like a space Amazon

[00:52:57] or something

[00:52:58] it's weird

[00:52:59] anyway

[00:53:00] the

[00:53:01] the next scene is

[00:53:02] the Ravager scene

[00:53:03] the Ravager

[00:53:04] why can't I say Ravager

[00:53:06] it's terrible

[00:53:07] it is weird

[00:53:08] especially when we're talking about Avengers

[00:53:10] and all this

[00:53:11] anyway

[00:53:12] so the Ravager scene

[00:53:15] where

[00:53:16] this sets up

[00:53:17] a fun little cameo

[00:53:19] you got

[00:53:21] Takkar O'Ward

[00:53:22] Stallone says

[00:53:23] you know it's a shame

[00:53:25] that took the tragedy of losing Yondu

[00:53:27] to bring us all together again

[00:53:28] but I think

[00:53:29] I think he'd be proud knowing

[00:53:31] that we're back as a team

[00:53:32] and then Charlie 27

[00:53:33] played by Ving Rhames

[00:53:34] and they're all in different ships

[00:53:35] and kind of jump from ship to ship

[00:53:36] I'm in

[00:53:38] Martin X is Michael Rosen

[00:53:39] played by Michael Rosenbaum

[00:53:41] says dope

[00:53:42] Miley Cyrus' mainframe says

[00:53:44] I miss you guys so much

[00:53:46] and then Michelle Yeoh

[00:53:48] plays Alita O'Gard

[00:53:49] says hell yes

[00:53:50] and Stakkar says

[00:53:52] let's say we steal some shit

[00:53:54] and so

[00:53:55] that fun little scene

[00:53:58] yeah

[00:53:59] you had enough

[00:54:00] yeah and these are

[00:54:01] these are largely

[00:54:04] like

[00:54:05] these are largely folks

[00:54:07] from the

[00:54:08] Earth 691

[00:54:10] original team of

[00:54:12] the Guardians of the Galaxy

[00:54:14] Yondu was a member of that

[00:54:16] Guardians

[00:54:17] we're missing Major Victory

[00:54:19] who is kind of like your

[00:54:21] Captain America stand in

[00:54:23] if you will

[00:54:25] and then

[00:54:27] Stakkar O'Gard

[00:54:29] was known at that time

[00:54:31] as Starhawk

[00:54:33] and he kind of had these big

[00:54:34] galactic wings

[00:54:38] and like mainframe

[00:54:39] is pulled from the

[00:54:41] Galactic Guardians

[00:54:42] who was a spin off of that

[00:54:43] Guardians of the Galaxy

[00:54:45] all from the early

[00:54:46] 90s

[00:54:48] really really fun scene

[00:54:49] here and

[00:54:50] and plus it gives us a

[00:54:51] Disney legend

[00:54:52] Miley Cyrus

[00:54:53] in an MCU movie

[00:54:56] how excited would you be for

[00:54:57] Ravager

[00:54:59] Disney Plus show

[00:55:00] dude

[00:55:01] I

[00:55:02] either a Ravager

[00:55:03] or like a

[00:55:04] Galactic Guardians

[00:55:05] where they actually

[00:55:06] used this set of

[00:55:07] Guardians

[00:55:09] yeah

[00:55:10] as and just like

[00:55:11] followed their

[00:55:12] galactic journey

[00:55:13] it'd be

[00:55:14] it'd be rad

[00:55:15] pretty cool

[00:55:16] it's pretty cool

[00:55:21] then the next one

[00:55:29] which is this one

[00:55:30] this one got all the

[00:55:32] the fanboys going

[00:55:35] Aisha

[00:55:36] is looking very

[00:55:37] disheveled

[00:55:40] she's being called to

[00:55:41] the Council

[00:55:42] Council of the Sovereigns

[00:55:44] or the Sovereign

[00:55:47] they're upset that

[00:55:48] she wasted their

[00:55:49] resources

[00:55:50] but she says that

[00:55:51] their wrath will

[00:55:52] dissipate once they

[00:55:53] see the powerful

[00:55:54] entity that she has

[00:55:55] created

[00:55:56] she says

[00:55:57] we will call him

[00:55:59] Adam

[00:56:00] and we see one of

[00:56:01] the birthing pods

[00:56:03] so for

[00:56:04] for anybody who

[00:56:05] was watching this

[00:56:07] was like

[00:56:08] what?

[00:56:09] this is Adam Warlock

[00:56:10] Adam Warlock

[00:56:11] is a

[00:56:12] comic

[00:56:14] comic character

[00:56:15] who

[00:56:16] everybody

[00:56:17] had this

[00:56:18] everybody

[00:56:19] was so

[00:56:20] excited

[00:56:22] for Adam Warlock

[00:56:23] he

[00:56:24] should have been

[00:56:25] a bigger part of

[00:56:26] the Infinity Saga

[00:56:27] the

[00:56:28] like

[00:56:31] the

[00:56:34] he

[00:56:35] holds the soul

[00:56:36] gem

[00:56:37] and he has

[00:56:39] some of the

[00:56:40] the Infinity Stones

[00:56:43] but

[00:56:44] so he's very

[00:56:45] involved with

[00:56:46] Infinity Gauntlet

[00:56:47] stuff in the

[00:56:48] comics

[00:56:49] and can end up

[00:56:50] being that

[00:56:51] involved here

[00:56:52] in the MCU

[00:56:56] but yeah

[00:56:57] definitely

[00:56:58] really excited

[00:56:59] here

[00:57:00] it was

[00:57:01] everybody was

[00:57:02] hype on this one

[00:57:03] yeah

[00:57:04] that was

[00:57:06] originally

[00:57:07] in the movie

[00:57:09] it was going to

[00:57:10] be

[00:57:11] Aisha

[00:57:12] and Adam Warlock

[00:57:13] as kind of like

[00:57:14] the

[00:57:15] I think either the

[00:57:16] main bads or the

[00:57:17] co-bads

[00:57:18] with Ego still in it

[00:57:20] but

[00:57:21] yeah

[00:57:22] it was

[00:57:23] pretty good

[00:57:24] I mean

[00:57:25] the

[00:57:26] the origin story

[00:57:27] again is

[00:57:28] gonna be

[00:57:29] different

[00:57:30] than

[00:57:31] the comics

[00:57:32] but

[00:57:33] so be it

[00:57:34] it's fine

[00:57:35] yeah

[00:57:36] the

[00:57:37] next

[00:57:38] scene we

[00:57:39] have is

[00:57:40] Peter Quill

[00:57:41] who is

[00:57:42] encountering

[00:57:43] teenage

[00:57:44] Groot

[00:57:45] to

[00:57:46] be

[00:57:47] a little

[00:57:48] bit

[00:57:49] more

[00:57:50] like

[00:57:51] teenage

[00:57:52] Groot

[00:57:53] to pick up

[00:57:54] his room

[00:57:55] there's

[00:57:56] there

[00:57:57] what does he say

[00:57:58] there's

[00:57:59] roots everywhere

[00:58:00] I think

[00:58:01] and then

[00:58:02] Groot calls

[00:58:03] Peter boring

[00:58:04] which is

[00:58:05] funny

[00:58:06] to which

[00:58:07] he's just playing

[00:58:08] a video game

[00:58:09] he's not even

[00:58:10] paying attention

[00:58:11] and

[00:58:12] Peter to which

[00:58:13] Peter says

[00:58:14] now I know

[00:58:15] how Yondu felt

[00:58:16] and

[00:58:17] yeah

[00:58:18] this one was

[00:58:19] pretty fun

[00:58:20] you know we get to see that

[00:58:21] Groot has a

[00:58:22] teenage years

[00:58:23] and gets

[00:58:24] to be a little bit

[00:58:25] silly

[00:58:26] yeah

[00:58:27] pretty fun

[00:58:28] super fun

[00:58:29] and then we get a like little bonus and actually throughout this before I before I talk about the bonus little video clip that's at the very end these credits are are one that you want to watch right you were going to want to watch these credits on

[00:58:46] all the way through clicking the skip credits button on

[00:58:49] Disney Plus is not what you want to do because even outside of the scenes there's also like all these like little

[00:58:59] cards of people dancing

[00:59:01] and you see like the Grandmaster who we're going to see in Thor Ragnarok he shows up dancing in the credits

[00:59:10] you see

[00:59:11] grandpa quill you see Cosmo the space dog you see Howard the duck

[00:59:16] plus

[00:59:18] there's this fun little like if you really watch

[00:59:21] there's words that are replaced with I am Groot

[00:59:25] throughout like people's names or people's titles or like one of them is like a it's a map that says you are here except and say you are here it says I am Groot and then flashes over to you are here

[00:59:37] really really fun like I say they they had fun with these these credits which I wish they would do more of because we all sit through all the credits of a Marvel movie give us a little bit more fun with it

[00:59:50] yeah totally

[00:59:51] let us watch something

[00:59:54] but then at the end after it says that no trees or raccoons were harmed in the making of this movie we see we David Hasselhoff head kind of floats up and he's narrating the final lines of the Guardians Inferno

[01:00:10] in these times of hardship just remember we are Groot

[01:00:18] so fun yeah the that shot was like last minute decision by James Gunn who shot the footage on his phone and then rushed it to the studio and hoping to hoping to get it into the credits before it had gone out to distribution

[01:00:40] what I did not realize was that that clip is part of the song is something played as Guardians Inferno and I did not realize that has its own music video it's got its own wiki page it's got his own how it was made how would you describe that video Ryan

[01:01:01] well first so fact factual side aside it was a like it was a promotional thing for the home release of this movie so they made this promotional video and it is

[01:01:16] it's like soul train meets its its soul stone train ha ha ha ha ha that was a good one I'm proud of myself for that one I don't I don't mind stone what you did there oh oh I have the power stone to keep moving on

[01:01:39] I have time okay I could do this all day oh my goodness but no I it yeah it's it's a great throwback of and send up of like a 70s sci-fi disco era like music video and it's got all the actors in it including Chris Pratt

[01:02:06] and Zoe Saldana who were who had to get added in after the fact because they kind of heard about it and it's it's so good honestly go out and watch it I'll try it I'll put I'll try and remember to put the link in the show notes so you can go check it out on YouTube

[01:02:25] but it is so good it's one of those really great pieces of Marvel content that like you you find out about like five ten years after the fact and you're like oh my gosh this is amazing yeah it it's so so it's jaw-dropping it's really good I had I I might have seen it originally but I can't remember it I remember watching it and I was like trying to pick my jaw up off the top of my head

[01:02:55] and I was like oh my gosh I'm going to go back to the floor it has very much a music video from like the Star Wars holiday special the weird kind of like galactic disco thing we were like God how much cocaine was ever went on when they made this so watch it's good it's good the last post credit scene and is probably fittingly so since his last this is his last

[01:03:23] thing to his film when he was live so Stanley no it's not we still have like he's got cameos all the way till endgame but I think they were I believe I could that endgame one the oh like filmed all together because gun film so Stanley is like at this time it's like 94 years old and so he's not doing a lot of traveling and so I James Gunn filmed five or six I think five post credit scenes I think this is the second one but we see Stanley

[01:03:53] wearing a space suit on a foreign planet the walker the watchers walk away and he says wait where are you going he was supposed to my left home how I get out of here hey odd she I've got so many more stories to tell like this kind of common refrain of like there's so much more Marvel stories to tell and this the importance of this was it fed into a very popular fan

[01:04:23] theory that Stanley's character is one of the watchers specifically walked which explains his repeated appearances throughout the MCU he's that hit he is his is a single character that appears in not in different stories and so it's not just he's the FedEx guy and he's the person drives from drinking the pink adults say or whatever but like he is actually the same character in every single movie

[01:04:53] and this was after the release by the unofficially endorsed the theory but it turns out that he's not a watcher but basically he said quote Stanley clearly exists you know above and apart from the reality of all the films so the notion that he could be sitting there on a cosmic pit stop during the jump gate sequence of guardians with something very fun it says wait a minute he's the same character who's popped up in all these films and it will later be clarified that he is actually quote

[01:05:23] the watcher informant and that what who is played by Jeffrey Wright in the what if series in the two seasons of the what if series and so yeah it's a fun little theory and I think it's been canonized yeah yeah super super fun and I think that like all these post credit scenes doing doing it all this way was so perfect for this movie it was it was what the it like

[01:05:53] it fits so well you wouldn't do this with like a civil war or something like that and like it it almost becomes a joke of itself at that point yeah and he would go on to pass I think a year and a half later so in 2018 so this is

[01:06:09] it was yeah one of the final I did something last but one of the final and credit scenes we see of his so yeah alright David well this has been a long one listeners thank you for hanging in there will will I think will probably release this in two parts if I'm being super honest with myself

[01:06:33] So but yeah, check us out next time.

[01:06:36] We'll do we'll do Spider-Man the production details

[01:06:42] behemoth that will be Spider-Man homecoming movie.

[01:06:46] I'm sure David has his work cut out for him

[01:06:49] with his production research.

[01:06:50] It's going to be its own episode.

[01:06:53] I'm you know what?

[01:06:54] I'm going to I'm going to call this now.

[01:06:57] I almost think that that our our pre breakdown stuff

[01:07:01] will be its own episode with Spider-Man because I'm

[01:07:03] I got to talk about comic stuff, too.

[01:07:05] I got to talk about

[01:07:08] arguably the most popular Marvel comics.

[01:07:11] So but Spider-Man homecoming Disney and Sony figured out their stuff

[01:07:18] and we could get an MCU Spider-Man.

[01:07:22] And so we get it in our next movie.

[01:07:25] So join us with that.

[01:07:27] Take it easy.