Puny Pod | Phase 1 Review

[00:00:00] Welcome to Puny Pod, the podcast that doesn't have a quote because we're not doing a movie today! What?! Welcome to Puny Pod, I'm Ryan and as always I am joined by my co-host David. David, it's July 1st as we record so happy Canada Day.

[00:00:44] You come in, also happy I'm going to see the Jones today. Woooo! I know, I'm just a hot, it's gonna be a great day. And for those who are listening on the day of release, it's also for the July. So everybody gets to celebrate independence. Screw you England.

[00:01:03] I'm sorry Grant, sorry Curtis, I know you're listening. I know you're over there, I'm sorry. So yeah, today is a bit of a departure from our usual movie review episodes. If you're new here, we are a rewatch MCU-rewatch podcast.

[00:01:23] And we just got done with the first phase of the MCU. Usually on the first Tuesday of every month, you're going to get an episode from us where we rewatch a movie from the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

[00:01:34] We're rewatching them in release order and we're really really enjoying finding out if they live up to the hype we remember. And we also really enjoy uncovering new details that we didn't catch the first time or things that maybe we forgot.

[00:01:51] Today is the first episode of a new type of episode for us at the end of each phase of the MCU. We're going to jump in here, we're going to do a fun little episode where we review the phase

[00:02:03] that we just watched and we're going to look ahead at the phase ahead. We will avoid spoilers for any movies we haven't watched so far, so don't worry, we're not going to tell you how phase 4 ends in this episode or anything like that.

[00:02:16] But we will kind of talk through what happened in phase 1, give you a brief summary of each movie. And I would definitely encourage everyone to go back and listen to all these episodes too.

[00:02:29] If you haven't listened to it, if this is your first one, please definitely go back and listen to the episodes about these movies. They're really great and full of details.

[00:02:41] Or maybe instead we pivot Ryan and we do a word for word based on recount everything we did before. And this is the first 10 hour podcast ever. Yeah, I was going to say marathon episode. And that does bring up a good point.

[00:02:59] Do if this is your first episode, look at the timestamps on our other episodes before you start because you're in for a long one. Get your meal, there's ready. You're in your journal. You're in all of this stuff. I've got to fit that into every episode.

[00:03:18] So yeah, David, I know through all of these episodes you've been giving us a lot of really great production information. So do you want to give us kind of a high level overview of phase 1 and the off screen kind of stuff? Sure, sure.

[00:03:34] So phase 1 of the MCU consisted as you know of six movies Iron Man which released in May 2008 incredible haul, which was released a couple of the month later in 2008 Iron Man to of which was came out in 2010,

[00:03:51] Thor which came out of your later in May 2011, Captain America, the first vendor was in July 2011 and it culminated in the Avengers which was released on April 11, 2012. So overall these six movies had a production budget of a billion dollars.

[00:04:13] There are opening weekend collectively with 624 million dollars there domestic and the Sol 6 movies, like $75 billion and collectively worldwide they grossed $3.8 billion dollars. Wow, yep, that's a lot of cheese and five of these movies are in the bottom third in terms of all time gross.

[00:04:45] So the only one that was in the top was Avengers which is number four. But the Hulk was the worst performing in the MCU Captain America, second worst Thor was number 25. Iron Man 23 and Iron Man 22 too.

[00:04:59] So I'm sure Marvel at the end of this day saw this as a huge financial boom. Some of the movies like for example incredible Hulk when you factor in marketing costs kind of barely broke even.

[00:05:14] But still super impressive like how much of gross and obviously this, you know, leaked fogged into the future if you will. The rotten tomatoes, the tomato omitur, ranks the films Iron Man for CD94% rating. That was highest ranked film, Hulk was the 67.

[00:05:35] But you know there were a few in here which that which performed pretty well. Cap Avengers had not even percent Thor. Captain America had 80%. So by critics received relatively well since these were super hero movies and at the time there wasn't much huge.

[00:05:51] Didn't didn't quite existed does I guess this? It does today. The cast we see Robert Danny Jr. by the end and the Avengers. It's got the gang together. So I'm daddy Jr. Chris Evans, Mark Rufflow, Chris Hemsworth, Scrubt Hans and Jim Rennard, Samuel Jackson, Craig Clark.

[00:06:13] I'm going to ask you let me be a little quick quiz. Right? Throughout the first six phases or six movies in phase one. It's pretty obvious that Robert Danny Jr. had the most screen time with 170 minutes.

[00:06:29] Can you guess the actor who has the second most minutes in phase one? Second, most in phase one. So the most appearances has to I think the most appearances has to go to a Phil Colson but his appearances were not long.

[00:06:51] They were pretty short appearances. He just kind of would pop on screen pop off. Colson has 19 total minutes. He was in four films and if you add his one shot that adds to the four minutes.

[00:07:05] Samuel Jackson actually was in the most but he clocks in in a total of 25 minutes. Chris Evans is the second 85 minutes. That makes sense. Yeah, because he was on screen for most of his own movie plus a good chunk of Avengers. Exactly.

[00:07:25] If you lump the two Hulk actors together, they're third, the seventh or two minutes. The female with the highest number of minutes is Winith Paltrow. She's a pretty free film. She's in 45 minutes.

[00:07:38] And you go down the list and I'll share this with you separately and if anybody wants to probably be a female, maybe not a centimeter or a personal one.

[00:07:46] What I found to be shocking is when you start getting down the page, if you will, don't cheat, it was infinite. It's been a year since he was in the movie. He's all together for less than an hour, which is our screen time. Jeremy Renner, 13 minutes.

[00:08:05] Harley Keener, Iron Man 2, 11 minutes. He's in the movie more than Terence Howard versus Sebastian Stan or John Favro or Maria Hill. That's wild. As far as the actors go, it was also a financial hit for the MC. He was also financial hit for the actor.

[00:08:29] So Robert Andrew Jr., in his first film, made approximately $2 million from the third highest made actor. By the time we get to the Avengers, he made $10 million. Chris Evans made 300,000 for Captain America and he's bumped up to 3 million.

[00:08:44] Same thing with Chris Hemsworth, he was paid $150K for Thor. 100K man, that's a civil engineer salary. That's not going to say that's like within reach for an average person to make in a year.

[00:09:02] Yeah, if you're living in an expensive state to live for California New York or something like that. Yeah, that's out of the room. He made $3 million. Scott Hansen made 6 million. She was the highest paid in this film. I've been making $4,000 in to Jeremy Renner was paid $3 million.

[00:09:21] I'm not sure how Jeremy Renner gets paid as much as Chris Evans and Chris Hemsworth. I'd turn her negotiation, I guess? I don't know man, like maybe they thought it was going to be maybe they sent him the wrong contract and he signed it.

[00:09:33] I was supposed to be 300,000. Tom Hiddleston made $800,000 for this film. I was making $1,600 to get before. Those were that basically what was going on in the phase. The company was doing fairly well in terms of the box office returns. The movies were pretty well received by critics.

[00:09:57] The actors were becoming better compensated for their roles. All was good. If you look at it, the storekeeper Disney Stock price went up. At that time when the stock market was kind of flat. I think that you call phase 1 a relative success from the box office perspective.

[00:10:18] Yeah, we'll call it a success from a fan perspective as well. So with that being said, I do want to go through and kind of go through each movie individually. We'll talk a little bit about our episode that went with that movie too because we're a new podcast.

[00:10:37] And so lots of things changed in the first few episodes. Really kind of fun to look back at it and talk through that. So first episode, episode number one here. So the first episode that we did that was a movie review was Iron Man.

[00:10:57] Of important note, if you are new to this podcast or if you just skipped our episode zero, I genuinely genuinely would implore you to go back and listen to it.

[00:11:11] David did a really good job of getting us a lot of really good detail with Marvel and how we got to the MCU. And I know a lot of episode zero's end up just being kind of the host's bsing and you kind of just,

[00:11:29] it's meant to just kind of get a flavor of the host. But for this episode zero, I genuinely think it's, it's a really good one and it's not just because I'm on it,

[00:11:39] but I think it's got a lot of really good content, really interesting information and really good stuff that would encourage every single person listening to go back and listen to that episode zero at some point.

[00:11:51] Yeah, yeah, I think that what people, we go into great detail in that episode around like how Marvel got to where it was. And again, just a quickly recap, phase one was a pretty big hit had some bumps that we're kind of talking about as we go through.

[00:12:07] But, but like Marvel was in bankruptcy and Marvel had a bar with boatload of cash to make these films. And it was there was questions about any of this stuff that would be pulled off.

[00:12:19] And so to get to that point in time and to know about all the disputes between the creatives and it's a bit of a miracle that this will be landed at this plane of the honest.

[00:12:29] Yeah, for sure, for sure. Well, where that plane was landing or taking off depending on how you want to look at it was with Iron Man. The first Iron Man movie came out in 2009. Right, 2009 correct. 2008. 2008. Thank you. It's early in the morning as we record so I apologize.

[00:12:50] But Tony Stark's mentor, Obadiah Stain orchestrates his kidnapping and attempted murder. Tony takes this attempt and uses it to invent the Iron Man armor after he returns home.

[00:13:08] He perfects the Iron Man armor and uses it to face off against Obadiah Stain who has stolen some of the technology and created the Iron Munger armor. This movie introduced us to a lot of things right. It introduced us to the MCU. That's pretty important.

[00:13:31] It had an after credit scene with Sam Jackson as Nick Fury introducing us to the concept of the Avengers Initiative, which was really exciting, especially at the time.

[00:13:42] There was no, at the time there is no concept for this kind of, there was there was really no movies or movie series that had worked like this. It was a bunch of little parts right. And it's really weird to sit here in 2023 where everything does that, right?

[00:14:02] Like children's movies are trying to emulate the MCU formula where you do a bunch of individual movies and then you culminate them at the end and bring them together into this grand thing. It's kind of become the industry standard as we sit here today in 2023.

[00:14:20] But at the time it was a totally new idea. And so it's really, it was really cool to see that. And we also saw Terrence Howard playing Rodey looking at the, some deprecated armor and saying next time baby.

[00:14:41] Spoiler of that stuck in through there would be another time. Not for Terrence Howard. We also saw the Terrence get introduced, which was kind of cool.

[00:14:52] But yeah, the on rewatch those are definitely some of the things that jumped out at me were like seeing the Terrence, it was great obviously seeing the blueprint as you were saying to this larger universe if you will oftentimes comic book movies or

[00:15:12] Potter, whatever, like here's source material. I'm just going to make a movie off the source material without really kind of building towards this larger thing if you well. As you said, we're, we've replicated by others and that's how franchises are built these days. Yeah.

[00:15:31] So from there we move on to our second movie in the MCU, which is the incredible Hulk. This movie sees Dr. Bruce Banner being hunted by the US government. Government wants the gamma monster known as the incredible Hulk that Bruce Banner becomes.

[00:15:53] Banner does not want to be the Hulk and spends the majority of this movie trying to cure himself of this affliction general Ross. In lists a meal blonsky as villain who becomes quote, anobomination to help with the hunt of the Hulk.

[00:16:16] The culminating fight at the end of this movie breaks Harlem and Hulk takes off out into the wilderness. And just as Bruce Banner didn't want to be the Hulk, neither did Edward Garnon and he's going to be hooter off the out of the MCU forever.

[00:16:35] That is true. That is true. This episode. So just an episode note about this one. This one, I'm going to say this was one of our more difficult episodes to do. I really wanted to try and keep it positive and this movie had, it still has good things.

[00:16:56] And I think rewatching it is a little bit beneficial not rewatching it three times. I do not suggest anyone to rewatch the incredible Hulk three times over in one month, but I do suggest anyone to rewatch it once. Dude, I did it like two weeks.

[00:17:14] At some point times like what? What did I agree with you this? This is terrible. No, it's one of those things we have vague memories of it and you remember it being on so great.

[00:17:30] And on, I would say on the first rewatch, I was pleasantly surprised. It was better than I had remembered. And I think perhaps it was my judgment when my opinion was a little bit clouded by all the scaling reviews and go back.

[00:17:47] Everybody likes to dump on the film. There are parts of it, which I think work and it is important in the MCU because this is a pretty key character as a reminder. Marvel had signed away a movie rights for its best superheroes.

[00:18:09] So the Hulk was an important film. It didn't do great financially, but it didn't bomb and we had seen other movies.

[00:18:18] This movie like Fantastic Four, X-Men, Daredevil. When they made sequels or when they made subsequent movies to a franchise that completely bomb and they just went away from them. So the fact that it trend water was a positive sign.

[00:18:35] Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And I think this one, I think when we recorded the episode our relevance for this movie is the takeaway was that it could tread water, right? It could just exist and that like you said is a really positive sign.

[00:18:56] This was a lost MCU movie for kind of a long time. As of recording this movie, it's actually funny. When we recorded that episode, I don't know if you remember this David, but we were joking around about how hard it was to go find this movie to watch it and we were like, yeah, you know, once we get to the spider man movies down the line, we're going to have to get off of Disney plus again.

[00:19:21] As we record here in July of 2023, it's back on Disney plus. So if you're going back and watching it, you have an easier time because now, and we'll probably talk about this a little bit in the next monthly view.

[00:19:36] David and I were sidestaying a little bit about this, and it's a really interesting subject. But universal gave up the rights to distribute or loss the rights, I guess, because they didn't distribute a new movie starring the Hulk for 15 years.

[00:19:58] The rights to distribute a movie starring the Hulk are now back with Disney, and so Disney has that back under their thumb and it's on Disney plus now.

[00:20:13] Yeah, the distribution meal that's not with Kermout basically meant that Kermout and how to write to display the incredible Hulk for a period of time.

[00:20:22] And so I saw that article, I need to look at a little bit more close to yeah it does look like that the rights to be converted back to Disney in which case they could if they wanted to make a stand-on Hulk movie.

[00:20:33] I think they've, but I would say that I think Hulk does better as a team up as a buddy, right? Like so he needs somebody to counter off of.

[00:20:43] Yeah, yeah, so we'll say what there's the she-hulk series, there was a little surprise thing at the end of that.

[00:20:54] So maybe that content something for the future, but I would see him just I would personally see them probably using them and dropping him into various properties to show up. We'll see what happens. That's fair.

[00:21:05] In this movie we did get to see a lot of foreshadowing of Captain America stuff. Highly disputed deleted scene aside with a blue splotch that is meant to be Captain America under a sheet of ice that we can debate that all day.

[00:21:25] We did see the we saw tanks of the super soldier serum or what we assumed to be the super soldier serum because they were. Dr. Skines. pseudonym on him said stark industries.

[00:21:41] They were it is kind of assumed that that is part of what turned Blonsky into the abomination. So lots of kind of foreshadowing of us getting Captain America kind of coming in in this movie and that's really what drew forward.

[00:22:01] They're also now as of as we're talking and again, we want to avoid plot spoilers but there is there is a lot from this movie that has actually been harvested and pulled out in the last I would say.

[00:22:14] That's a lot of the time that we have been here for about five or six MCU projects and projects moving forward. There's been a lot that has kind of been plucked out of this movie.

[00:22:24] Included the rumored return of our favorite actress in the actress who we loved in this episode. I'm I'm rewriting history right now. We loved her is live Tyler so I don't think it's rumored I think she's in it.

[00:22:39] So it'll be I will say this as much as as we kind of joking make fun of acting chops of with Tyler.

[00:22:49] It will be interesting to see what they do with the character how they how they integrate and bring her back because when you see the Hulk in Avengers,

[00:22:57] it's like there's no mention number he doesn't even it's like he's not carrying it all right and but you can see it would be funny if they did like a little week nod It's like oh Bruce you'd like to read it.

[00:23:09] Oh Bruce you look different yes because I'm not because I'm Mark Ruffler when I'm not Edward Orden. That's fair that's fair. All right so moving on from the incredible Hulk.

[00:23:24] We got into the first direct sequel of the MCU which was Iron Man 2 and man 2 we find out that Tony's. Tony suit or more accurately his arch reactor is killing him. On the other side of the world Ivan Vanko who is the spurned son of scientist Anton Vanko.

[00:23:52] He's drunkenly creating a whip based super villain get up around his version of the arch reactor or more accurately his dad's version of the arch reactor. Ultimately Tony must decipher his his dad's so Tony must decipher Howard Stark's secret code to discover a new element that will.

[00:24:20] Make the arch reactor safe to wear and must face off against Anton Vanko's. Hammer Royce which are financed by Justin Hammer with the assistance of Rodi in the once stolen but now improved. War machine armor. They're not really called hammer ones are they.

[00:24:45] They make that joke I think Tony Tony calls him like the hammer Roy he has a hammer Roy problem or something. I yeah the. Yeah the I think this on rewatch. Not my favorite song.

[00:25:03] We did have I do want to give special shout out to your we had our first guests of the podcast in this episode Curtis and Grant who were previously mentioned.

[00:25:13] They are from the throw and dice pot and they came on to join us and it was actually really good time. I this movie was one of those ones that that just does not live up on rewatch it.

[00:25:27] It's very of the moment and what I mean by that is pretty gross. It's got a lot of sexism it's got a lot of. It's got a lot of things that just looking back at it are just uncomfortable and.

[00:25:46] Frankly pretty difficult to watch and it's got you on Musk so there's that. Yeah it's. Yeah the the cameos from the cameo heavy approach to Robert Daniel Jr's heavy ad living. To the kind of conflicts between studios director John. Rob and.

[00:26:13] From Daniel Jr this was it was very apparent on screen there as we mentioned in the part up to so their points of time we can see like what is positive and kind of looking uncomfortable with.

[00:26:24] With the dialogue and others not really able to keep pace you know at a point in time Robert Daniel almost comes across as a little bit manic. And the movie feels very kind of you know off beat if you will.

[00:26:37] So for me it's it's it is tough on rewatch doesn't age particularly well there are.

[00:26:46] Elements of the movie which we do see I we did like we talked about we did like I did like the fact that they tied it a little bit to the demon the ball story line of the comics.

[00:26:56] So this movie prior our in man movie I think did a pretty good job of looking things to the source material which is kind of really like.

[00:27:07] Yeah and I will say that this did introduce us to some really important characters in the MCU and gave us a long long amount or a good amount of time with. Black Widow not her best portrayal but it's spent a lot of time with her.

[00:27:24] I've spent a lot of time with Sam Jackson as Nick Fury he got to come in and help Tony along it also gave us more machine.

[00:27:39] Which is you know no roadie hasn't had a lot of time but he's been an important character and you know also gave us. It gave us something that set up a bit of Iron Man or a bit of Captain America sorry as well as.

[00:27:58] I would say set up. A lot of things in the MCU without giving away too much which is Howard Stark and Howard Stark's existence and kind of what he did with his Stark Expo that sort of thing.

[00:28:11] I will also say I have to give special shout outs here because the Stark Expo stuff.

[00:28:18] Spoke very close to the world's fair nerd in me who is a huge fan of the world's fair and all that stuff and Howard Stark was very very very very pulled from Walt Disney and a lot of the things around the Stark Expo were very pulled from the world's fair and so.

[00:28:39] That that part does hold a special place in my heart at least. Arguably these scenes the Howard Stark scenes are and the whole world's fair thing is probably maybe the best part of the movie.

[00:28:51] That I mean it's always hard to fight to argue with some of the action scenes but the storyline was really uneven for me. I'm surprised you missed the debut of another character shame on you Ivan Vinkos Parrots.

[00:29:10] We've told who has arguably more screen time than Maria Hill does and all the MCU. Oh, oh, too soon my man. Put that aside. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

[00:29:25] But yeah, also in this episode we announced the existence of our new or our side venture which is Pinypod monthly bugle. And that is our monthly news episode mostly because we've realized we were recording really long episodes with the news.

[00:29:46] And we're like, yeah, let's get it out of here. Let's let's put it in its own thing spoiler alert. What that turns out to be is two hour episodes about movies and one hour episodes. What about news? But it played at 1.5 speed and it's like there's smaller chances.

[00:30:04] So then our next episode that wasn't monthly bugle actually was kind of a little April Fool episode that we did. But I honestly suggest it's four minutes. It's not a two hour episode.

[00:30:20] Go back and listen to Pinyp. This was our April Fool's episode where we were joined by our co host Ashir. And we talk about the mission Guardians of the Galaxy mission breakout and we take over the main show of this network.

[00:30:40] We're on the years of network. And in that show we did find out some pretty important news that David is a big boy. So the next movie that we reviewed was Thor which came out in 2011.

[00:31:01] In this movie of boastful Thor is cast out from Asgard for igniting a feud with the Frost Giants.

[00:31:07] Thor's brother Loki is exposed to a bin behind the attack Thor spends time on Earth discovering what it takes to be worthy of his mantle and being able to pick Mjolnir back up at the end.

[00:31:20] Big fight between Thor and Loki and the destroyers in there too. And ultimately it ends with Thor stuck on Asgard because the rainbow bridge is broken and Loki sent to often to the cosmos.

[00:31:41] This movie really set the tone for the MCU. It had a lot of the jokes that the MCU had so far, but it's solidified in a really good way.

[00:31:54] And it balanced that really well with action and good character development. I think I think Thor did a really good job of setting that tone.

[00:32:05] Chris Hemsworth, I think that the Thor character arguably is maybe one of the ones in the dimensions that evolved the most from the original way. Very serious when we get to later movies when they find that comedic balance if you will.

[00:32:23] And now Thor, I think the Thor characters are arguably one of the dimensions that I don't know if we're right to characters now. But he's great and he doesn't really good job.

[00:32:33] And he, I'm like, I think his or his standalone movies are like some of them are at the very high end if you will, right?

[00:32:43] Some of them are not as great, but I think that had more of you like the source material. The other thing I think is significant about this film is the fact now we're often for Earth and the fact that they were able to pull a movie could much that's used not based on Earth.

[00:32:56] And we're also going to be able to pull outside of that and make it look good and understandable and enjoyable. That, that paved the way for other future movies, it paved the way for like for guardians of the galaxy and plays. Yeah, so many different ways.

[00:33:15] And in this movie we are also introduced to Hawkeye. So we get our first glimpse at Hawkeye. We also in the after credits scene get the cosmic cube, which will end up kind of being Armaguffin for the next few movies.

[00:33:31] And so those kind of paved the way. Also in this episode, a couple notes about this episode. We got our new theme this episode from our buddy JR Trump. It was a really great theme. We forgot to think in like while we were recording that episode.

[00:33:47] So there's a little tag at the beginning of that episode where I'm on there thinking him but we cannot thank him enough. The these themes are so great.

[00:33:58] We also had a special guest that episode, Rob from the Banthamilk podcast came on and let us know that the reason he wanted to be on the Thor episode was because in adventures at babysitting a particular character's favorite character was Thor. That was his reason for being on the episode. So yeah, thank you Rob.

[00:34:25] Moving on from before we move into Captain America, Captain America first of venger Steve Rogers is a scrawny kid from Brooklyn. He wants to fight Nazis but it's picked but you know it's too small to to help to join the war effort. So he's picked by the strategic scientific reserve to receive the super soldier serum.

[00:34:50] After a stint as a dancing monkey for the USO, Steve Rogers becomes the soldier. He's always wanted to be and faces off with red skulls Hydra who use weaponry powered by the cosmic cube.

[00:35:03] Hey, we just heard about that. Ultimately Steve must crash a common deered Hydra plane into the Arctic and become a capsicum.

[00:35:16] This movie really showed us the breath of the MCU so far we'd had a lot of modern day. We saw a little bit of cosmic right we just talked about that with the war we saw them go cosmic a little bit but

[00:35:27] Really this should the breath of the MCU we could do a world war two film in the MCU it could be fairly successful. It wasn't the most successful. We talked about a lot of the reasons why in that episode, but

[00:35:39] We could do something a little bit different with the MCU we could we could change its focus which was cool to see and

[00:35:50] I might push back a little bit on the unsuccessful just because this is a war war two movie and what were two movies don't bring in big huge dollars.

[00:36:02] I think one thing I point out is they pull up the space movie now they're back on earth now the rewinding of back 70 years

[00:36:13] Going back to war war two and telling as a standalone this I think I mentioned at the time like this is I think that maybe for me the best origin story that they've written so far

[00:36:27] And the characters well developed you really see the relationship between Cap and Peggy Carter yeah And that obviously paves way for that relationship in the future we'll see in future movies For sure

[00:36:46] And it's all the thing I say this is not unlike the last movie. It's another one for see this was not a huge CGI heavy film lots of practical effects Yeah, then which you know people other special effects

[00:36:59] Yeah, yeah, we talked through a lot there was a lot going against this movie right ultimately there's the fact that it's fairly US centric at a time where that's not going to do well necessarily internationally It's a world war two film which is going to struggle it's

[00:37:26] I think also Captain America has always had a little bit of a bad

[00:37:32] There's a sect of people who don't enjoy Captain America stories the same it's the same group of people my and I would include myself in some of these ranks at times who don't enjoy super pan movies The lawful good characters not always easy to enjoy

[00:37:49] Sure, absolutely and so but in this movie we did get to see Fuck a few moments later All right, so we I just made editing for myself So we did get to see Bucky who is a sidekick of Captain America's very popular comic book character

[00:38:12] We got to see the cosmic cube kind of getting its way back to shield because we at the end of the movie we do see Tony or I'm sorry Howard Stark pick up the cosmic cube We also get to see at the very end that

[00:38:31] Captain not stay a capsule for very long They thought him out and he gets to be all hunky beaten up some boxing bags and getting a mission from Nick Fury. Yeah, I think I think for me one of the main takeaways

[00:38:49] I have is we really do get a sense for his character in his motivations Yeah, why he was selected as the soldier that we received the ceremony eventually become Captain America and then in the next movie we start to see his character

[00:39:07] But heads with the Tony Stark character Yeah, so then we get to Avengers right Avengers the culmination of it all put it put all the pieces together released in 2012

[00:39:20] We were joined on this episode by our special guest Eric from all the different podcasts all the way across all kinds of networks So in this episode or in this movie Loki Steals the test erect he He uses it to open a portal to urr or he

[00:39:45] He uses it throughout the movie and he's trying to figure out how to open a portal to earth for the shatari to come through Nick Fury symbols a team of superheroes

[00:39:57] To try and stop the shatari aliens from conquering earth this team has Ironman Captain America Thor the Hulk black widow and Hawkeye on it

[00:40:10] Throughout the movie the Avengers are battling Loki trying to stop him and then ultimately it culminates in a really long extended battle sequence in New York City really fun battle sequence And ultimately we defeat Loki and the Avengers victory saves earth and we get to eat some shwarma

[00:40:41] Wow, shwarma time The relevance here's it works right like this movie proved that the formula worked as you mentioned Avengers still to this day is in the top 10 top five right earning Yeah, so still to this day and that's and and that's you know

[00:41:04] What is it 10 years on 11 years on? Yeah, still up there So really kind of proving that that the formula worked and for us nerds it was Really rewarding it was it was it was a reward at the end of the day. I would agree with that

[00:41:26] We've seen some sort of mixed results in team up movies marvel team on movies not necessarily made by marvel itself But you have X men some of those moves are good. Some are not that great fantastic for all pretty not great

[00:41:42] And so the fact that they did it and it was well received by critics by fans that it not gave them the impetus to To chart out the rest of the phases. I don't know how long they planned out But we see

[00:42:00] Thanos at the end of this film so the had least had some in mind something plans They might have changed a long way, but they definitely had a game plan going forward Absolutely Absolutely, so the that is our movies

[00:42:15] Now something we do at the end of every episode is we've ranked these right and this is hard the first first phase was a little bit tough because

[00:42:22] We have 30 movies right and so to try and figure out where these six movies go and in our ranking of 30 movies is a little bit tough So we kind of wanted to rank it in Trump like in the the

[00:42:38] Tears yeah, yeah, we wanted to do tears of the overall MC right are they going to be essentially when it boiled down to because we're at about 30 movies is top 10 middle 10 bottom 10

[00:42:50] So top third middle third bottom third we also wanted to rank within the phase right how do they jockey throughout the phase So I'll go over my rankings and I will put where I called my shots on them

[00:43:06] And then we'll kind of talk about what the average of the the and then I'll let David talk about his but

[00:43:11] So for me, I had Iron Man number one I called that it would end in the top third Avengers number two again called that it would end at the top third

[00:43:22] You're going to hear me say that a lot because I'm an idiot and I can't remember how many are in the top third Captain America number three also in the top third Thor number four also in the top third so just if you're keeping score at home

[00:43:37] That means I have already filled up four of the 10 slots in the top third just in the first phase Iron Man two I had number five for the phase and I called it for the middle third and then the incredible hook

[00:43:56] I had at the bottom third it's the sixth movie in the phase for my rankings And my rank were a little bit different we both collectively agreed that the Hulk and Iron Man two were the bottom two films

[00:44:12] I had both of those in the bottom third of all free films in the top third my movies right in order rank our Avengers one Captain American number two are number three With four

[00:44:26] The fourth spot being Thor in kind of the middle tier. So if you took our look on our consensus consensus I can speak consensus Avengers was number one ranks Iron Man second Captain America third four fourth Iron Man two fifth and incredible Hulk six so

[00:44:45] Because none of this stuff is set in stone the question I have for you is are there are there any films in your Rankings that you would either reorder so you would switch the order of a movie or that you would re rank

[00:44:58] I'm gonna move this from the top third to the middle third I'm going to move this from the bottom third to the middle third Yeah, and I think to make this really fun. I'm gonna keep track of where we originally called it

[00:45:10] And see how accurate we were in our original episodes, but we can feel free to take a couple more games there on the like like it the band You know So most of your order anything is this are you still feeling confident about this order of six

[00:45:28] Yeah, I do think I am feeling confident on the order of six Iron Man two Iron Man two is so rough on that rewatch and it's It's unique in the series so far and that it was very timely

[00:45:48] There was a cameo heavy really we mentioned cameo heavy approach and that backfired on them Pretty big because the people they chose to cameo did not end up being the best people in the world And so

[00:46:05] It's so hard because I also on the flip side of that the best parts of that movie are some of my favorite parts of the MCU The parts about the stark expo and Howard Stark basically being Walt Disney some of my favorite favorite things in the MCU

[00:46:27] So yeah, I do think the one through six are correct. I still would put Iron Man above Avengers And that's my I think that that's the role I play here is the Iron Man van. Well, I mean Iron Man like two also two

[00:46:43] I mean that was that was trailblazing like it's it is a little bit unfair to compare The movie that went first with the movie that went last after they sort of you know CGI gets better the casting gets better

[00:46:56] The characters are better developed they have a kind of cohesive idea so it's it's a little bit unfair You kind of have to grade a little bit on a curve as it relates to Iron Man to That's the tough one because I think that

[00:47:14] Objectively the Hulk incredible Hulk is a worse movie But I Dislike Iron Man to I think for more than the Hulk just just on free watch because it's it's hard to separate those things. It has some

[00:47:30] Great special effects the fight scenes are cool when they're in like with the kill zone, I think and that is bad It is awesome Same rock well as as Justin Hammer is really fun. He's he's a he's a really fun kind of Idiot billionaire kind of guy

[00:47:52] In that movie, but the villains are weak the story is weak the you know if they admitted to the you know Deviled about all and it kind of played that a little bit more great, but I just wasn't drove

[00:48:08] But they did they did some good things. It's I think that replacing Terence Howard Was the call and I thought So the roadie character with better you do see genuine chemistry between the two which I think is a positive thing

[00:48:24] I don't think I would reorder any of mine. I debated swapping the credible Hulk for Iron Man to but I don't think I can do it I reserve rights to do some future I'm going to

[00:48:39] And the only so I made a joke out of I filled up the top third with With four or with four movies already and I'm just sitting here trying to to The side if I need to move that around. I don't know that I do I I

[00:48:59] Thought I think Thor is it is going to be in the swing position right Thor might be the 11th best or 12th best and so as more movies come out he might Flux that that movie might fluctuate between the middle third and and top third for me

[00:49:15] Just depending on the math and how that all works out I do think it's it's at the very very tipy top of the middle third if I were to move it to the middle third

[00:49:26] I also think it's at the very very very bottom of the top third leaving it in the top third so That neurons. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think for me for is is

[00:49:39] Comfortable in the middle third for me and I don't think my I don't think that my Top third will change I understand where you're coming from because I know you feel that like these four are pretty solid

[00:49:56] And again, you have to we have to take things into context unfair to compare it first for to you know one of the subsequent ones Just because the characters better developed and just it's it's it's like comparing athletes and generations almost it's a

[00:50:09] Kind of a basketball player 50's to today just and it not fair. Yeah, and I think it is important to say like these are subjective rankings right like We're not or is it objective or subject these these have our opinions these have our nostalgia built into a

[00:50:30] We we own that and that is part of these rankings it is it is not This is not meant to be totally without Question No, this is decisive for all of society. These are going to be kind of ranking so whatever Wikipedia says whatever I and DB says

[00:50:53] That's all gonna be first out. I don't know um I think that's fair. I think that it's I think we you take each movie. I think we said it pretty well like this is a subjective ranking you take each movie and

[00:51:09] What is best is I don't know is best most enjoyable is best. Oh, this is actually a better better made looking in product produced film Is best the one that's got the major field happiest It's it's all relative if you will

[00:51:25] I do think there are there are a lot of really good movies coming up side. I wouldn't I do think I don't think the top three will sit down any of the top three will sit down. I could reorder things

[00:51:38] Maybe later, but I think I think you can pretty close that's fair. That's fair And I'm not comfortable As an iron man fan I don't know that I can move iron man to the bottom 30 even though in my heart of hearts I probably know that's where it belongs

[00:51:56] Right up until the time where it drops to that I'm not going to admit it so So yeah, overall you know the impacts of phase one right so phase one To me it's set the groundwork right it built the foundation It to build a house

[00:52:19] You have to have a foundation and so I Think it really felt it built that foundation We talked a little bit about this when I talked about Iron Man one The film industry changed substantially like

[00:52:36] The MCU changed the way that movies are coming out to this day 15 years on down the line Fundamentally changed what we see as as How movies are released and how things come to be so I

[00:52:58] Think that's right. I think that I think that what it did and this is why it was such a huge success in my mind So it laid like a very strong foundation with Robert Andy Jr. who

[00:53:10] As we mentioned as I think people know like he was pretty troubled before this and almost didn't get cast And barely could get roles I read a story where like Mel Gibson actually had post

[00:53:21] A bond to basically a bond of insurance for Robert Andy Jr. to appear in the films So it's like you've been fired from like Alan Bill and stuff like that So you have this this foundation and then you they

[00:53:34] But Marvel does really well is it establishes this what I've like disconnected universe if you will right and and it's wrong earth Or in what were two where in New York City they they and the thing I think Which for me as a comic nerd and fan

[00:53:55] Through the little Easter eggs through the little pins that they drop drop that That engages the things right that engages me and you're like oh I remember that stuff. So so for the casual fan

[00:54:08] It's a great enjoyable film for the Marvel nerd. Oh look at all these other cool things and you know if they've done it really good job of maintaining that all the way throughout for sure for sure Well, let's move on Another another

[00:54:25] Favorite kind of segment we have at the end of every episode is an MVP And we're we're not going to do too much with the MVP here because I actually have some other plans

[00:54:36] Once we get to like a saga review. So for those not familiar with the MCU It's organized in phases and in saga's so the first Four phases memory serves are part are all the

[00:54:54] Infinity saga so all focused around the infinity stones which will get more into for those who haven't seen it yet Don't worry you haven't missed anything we'll get into some infinity stones on down the line

[00:55:10] And then the next saga where in at time of recording right now is the multi-verse saga And so when we get to the saga review we're going to do some fun like MVP tournament style stuff But here in the phase review

[00:55:29] I thought it'd be fun to run through who are MVP's were For each movie and I'll go ahead and I'll run all run those down and then we'll kind of pick our one MVP for the phase both on screen as well as off the screen

[00:55:43] It also to run them a little bit of our plan of trying to avoid having repeat MVP Yeah, yeah that brings up a really good point. So David and I off off off

[00:55:55] air we agreed we don't we don't want to have repeat MVP so you know we you might find it odd that I never picked Iron Man

[00:56:06] But you might find it odd that like we don't pick the star of the movie every time and that that was something we intentionally chose to do because We've seen all these movies all the way to the time of recording so we kind of

[00:56:19] For cast it and thought forward a little bit And know that you know a character might be more important or a more valuable player at a later point in the MCU

[00:56:32] And also a lot of it the the the star kind like you can pick Robert and Judy from movies Right, so we didn't want to reward and say pick

[00:56:43] Characters based on like screen time and try to like you know show some love for the characters who were important to the story, but who will not Resenture 7 or an engineer is certainly yeah So with that

[00:57:00] Our MVP's here are so for the first movie Iron Man I picked Tony Stark So yes, I did choose the main hero and David picked the ho Jensen In Hulk I picked Stanley Lieber who was the pizza joy owner who kind of Really helped push Dr. Banner along

[00:57:29] David picked Emil Blonsky aka the abomination Iron Man 2 I picked Happy Hogan David picked Roty aka War Machine and then our guests Curtis our guest from throw in dice pods picked Senator Sterns and Grant picked Justin Hammer On Thor I picked my favorite Portley fellow full stack

[00:58:06] And David picked Loki and then Rob our special guest there picked Thor In Captain America the first vendor I picked dumb dumb do again starting to pick up on a little bit of the thread here

[00:58:22] And David cheated and he decided to pick Cohen VPs and picked Dr. Irskine and agent Carter I should admit it I'm not I'm not I'm not shame and then Avengers for the Avengers episode I picked Nick Fury

[00:58:44] David picked Bruce Banner aka the Hulk and Eric picked agent Colson So that all be in set David Who is your on screen and off screen MVP's for the whole phase

[00:59:02] So my on screen MVP is Chris Evans Chris Evans is Captain America he is in he played a really important role as a as a compliment or as a you know a bit of a for

[00:59:19] For Captain Jr. I thought he the origin story he pulls off Captain America he does something he's not corny he's kind of authentic to character

[00:59:29] And I thought especially as they get for long and the universe I keep he's very he's does a great job my runner up was Tom Hiddleston look because he was in my mind

[00:59:40] The best villain and kind of steals the show in four how about you who are your on screen MVP Yeah, I think my on screen MVP is and it's not somebody keep smack in my mic and it's not somebody that we

[01:00:01] That I picked anywhere in the actual phase itself for a individual Ross really No, I picked agent Colson I think Agent Colson ended up being not a lot of screen time like we said I think 15 minutes or so

[01:00:22] But he ended up being the glue and they use that to great effect in the Avengers when he was killed when when Colson was killed And he says they needed something to avenge right cheesy cheesy is all get out but

[01:00:38] You know, I think I think it was important and it was that is one of the keys of this kingdom is to have those through lines have that line that runs all the way through that that Connects everybody else you just wouldn't Survive so

[01:01:02] Yeah, we see an our man some arm into Thor Avengers That he is like mentioned the connective tissue he appears all that he has his own one shot his is yeah, it's a good he is he is an underrated

[01:01:15] I'd see he's an underrated character. It's a shore. Yeah, so yeah off screen. I'll go ahead and take this one first so off screen MVP's I think are for me And this is tough I I So I'm going to take this now and I'm going to say that

[01:01:39] He is banned from being picked in future Phase reviews because honestly we could pick him every phase is Kevin Vigy The the leadership and the foresight that Kevin has is is huge and it's really it is the secrets off of the MCU I think he he really

[01:02:04] He sees the whole plan and and he has some flexibility, right? He's not he doesn't just see a plan and you know there's a few other Universes where we've seen a little bit too rich too much rigidity rigidity and sticking with their plan

[01:02:25] And it causes problems he knows how to Work within the constraints he set himself and flex around and create a really great MCU

[01:02:35] And here in the first phase he produced the hell out of a first phase and created a really good foundation and and saw the sightlines all the way through

[01:02:46] Yeah, I mean he's he is the end he is the NCU MVP overall right like he had that's goes without saying the fact The fact that he had the vision all the way throughout the fact that he was able to to get

[01:03:00] Um, these movies made in a fairly short period of time the fact that he was able to navigate The distribution deals with paramount others the fact that he was able to sort out the triangle of conflict in the Iron Man movie

[01:03:17] And the director and the writers and the lead and the fact that I mean built that and created a structure Where they were able to kind of apply you know almost I don't want to say it formula because I don't think the story is a formula

[01:03:34] But the a working formula for making these kind of movies so Yeah, he fight these a great choice. He's he's people to go for me And I like I do like the idea of not picking any off screen people again

[01:03:53] For me it would be I mentioned before in the earlier podcast, but Sarah Halley Finn is the casting director who she cast over a hundred films and she casted the entire

[01:04:09] Inceo with exception and incredible Hulk so that's not on her she you know there were some casting you know Early on they they had to recast certain characters, but they by the end they find the formula and Selecting Tom Hiddleston Chris Evans of taking being able to

[01:04:33] Having an unknown taking chance of unknown Chris Hemzorath taking it to game chance on Robert Downey Jr Even though he was a movie star he was not doing well. You know years of substance abuse and struggles and arrested stuff like that and like

[01:04:50] You're gonna cast him and make him the lead of your franchise for the first film I do was doing like voiceover work like three years before

[01:04:58] And so I think like her her vision her abilities like and we see the future movie circle picker again, but like her the cast decision She makes it some other films who point out. It's just fantastic

[01:05:11] Yeah, I think in an earlier podcast I called casting the secret sauce of the MCU and I apologize for over using the same metaphor But Casting really is is really important and it's something they've done so well, and

[01:05:28] For the most part, they've avoided controversy with their with their casts, which is also really important You know looking at at the time of recording looking at the DC EU and the struggles they've had with some some controversy controversy

[01:05:45] And the the struggles that that is introduced for that that universe I think that's one of the probably unsung heroes is is the casting folks Because it has been really good. They've taken chances those chances have paid off

[01:06:04] And so that takes some guts and it also takes some knowledge, right? You can't just randomly gamble on a on somebody and just hope it's okay Yeah, when they've had to pivot they've pivoted right? They made the decisions you see it mostly in phase one

[01:06:21] I'm struggling to think of anyone in phase two through four of common nature of this recast quite frankly So yeah, I'm going to be with the cast and it's been great For sure So moving on from our MVP's I'm going to jump on down

[01:06:38] So if you if you weren't aware, we release a super secret spoiler show on the Patreon for our network the ears up network so if you want to find out more about this next subject we're about to go into Check out the patreon

[01:06:56] The the episode every month is us basically taking off the spoiler filter We're going to talk about what connects forward We also play some fun games there. So one of the games that we play is rank the facial hair So for those who aren't in the know I

[01:07:15] Once upon a time was a world ranked facial hair official in auto I guess I was a competitive bearder And I competed at World beard and mustache championships in Austin Texas

[01:07:27] And as such I have established a little bit of we've established a game where we try and figure out the best facial hair per movie And so we also play another game which we won't pull out from behind the paywall here

[01:07:48] But we also play a game where we we cast an accage in every movie, which is also really good times So check that out on our patreon But the one that we're pulling out here for you is our facial hair ranking So

[01:08:02] Right in the expert you we rely upon you. I All I know is like oh that looks fake that's about all I don't know the names I didn't have the real I can't tell you but it kind of struck me early on

[01:08:16] We saw the first iron man and we're like how to be stationary. What's going on there? You see mobilized stains bearding. Oh, that's really good. So with that let's talk about your and so Ryan let's dive into it Your facial hair rankings for each movie

[01:08:34] Yeah, for sure. So in Ironman one I gave the honors to obadized stain he had a really good What we call a business beard which is a beard under four inches Really full probably fake Business beard Moving on to incredible Hulk I ended up giving it to

[01:08:57] Colonel Ross Colonel I think at the time. Anyway Give it to Ross he had kind of what I would what I think I described at the time as a copstache You did

[01:09:11] Yeah, yep and it was it's kind of the the comb stash all straight across his upper lip It was likely real right up until the a much maligned much debated after credit not after credits scene Where I think it was fake because it was put on crooked

[01:09:35] I didn't notice that that's hilarious Ironman too we have Tony I gave the the nod to Tony Stark that was a very very very Dry episode as far as facial hairs goes. Well, it's it's him or Venko like yeah, and Venko's just copying him

[01:09:57] Yeah, it was all totally For I gave it to Valsdag He had the full beard. I would guess it was fake Looking at how long it was that would have taken at least a year to grow and Yeah, definitely I would say fake there

[01:10:20] Captain America gave it to dumb dumb do you get with his sweet imperial stash And then Avengers well being the strongest movie was not the strongest facial hair movie so

[01:10:35] We I did have to basically fall to giving it to Nick Fury because he was about the old impression with the substantial facial layer Yeah, but the wig game was tight right Or you have Loki you have black widow like it was on the pop-in-alls

[01:10:53] Yeah, so will that with that who's your number one? For sure, so this phase was easy to give a number one for this phase is honestly a piece of cake

[01:11:06] I am a beard guy so if if I have any of my old beard friends that are listening and they're mustache guys You might argue with me about dumb dumb do-gain or General Ross's beer or general Ross's mustache something like that

[01:11:19] But I'm a beard guy through and through and I have to give the honors to full stack Full beard was phenomenal It looked really good even though it was likely fake it looked like a good fake beard I also you know, I should say

[01:11:42] Because we are honoring a character that whose actor has passed Rest in peace Ray Stevenson He but Yeah, definitely great great beard for sure At the top your head real quick like what like what's just the most disappointing was a Thor Was it?

[01:12:06] Yeah, I mean Thor so again I told this story in episode Thor is not supposed to have a full beard until he becomes king of asgarda according to certain people In the end of the story I'm not gonna lie if so

[01:12:20] You know, disappointing I didn't expect him to have a beard I guess Well is he a scroll Yeah But no I think Tony Stark's very comic accurate he has the sharp edges that's same way he's drawn in the comics I guess Fury could have a little bit more

[01:12:44] He was very stably a lot of the time Like only secures on that for it Yeah, it's true We're not going to put it we're not gonna diverge into best real and best fake beard That's completely different podcast So that does it for phase one

[01:13:05] David I think you're about to jump into phase two right? I was about to jump into phase two this is not the end of the MCU or the podcast The phase two was announced at San Diego Comic-Con in July 2012

[01:13:21] So this is three months after the Avengers was released So you don't make movies in the air So they pretty well knew probably around the time Ironman was a big hit and made a lot of money They were like okay, we're gonna make some more

[01:13:39] We're gonna keep this rolling forward So they announced that they would have a phase two in the phase two We consist again of six movies Ironman three Thor Dark World Captain America Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy Avengers Age of Ultron and Ant-Man

[01:14:00] And they would be released between May 2013 that's Ironman three Which comes out one year after the Avengers movie Through July 2015 so I was not at Comic-Con but I remember when the slate was announced When you heard this slate of movies was announced as phase two

[01:14:20] What was your reaction where their movies were most excited to see? Yeah for sure so when this was announced I think Remembering back on this I think the second half of the slate was not necessarily fully flesh out

[01:14:41] I don't think how do you remember if Guardians was flesh out? I know Avengers did not have a subtitle at that time It's just Avengers Because actually out about the time this was announced the comics of age of Ultron were coming out

[01:14:58] The age of Ultron comics were coming out and I was reading them I would say probably the one I was most excited for from this was the first one Well established Ironman fan here So very excited about Ironman three

[01:15:14] And I believe at the time it was at least rumored if not announced that The screenwriting pair would be Drew Pierce and Shane Black Principal is Shane Black got me really excited because getting to see him take on Ironman felt like a really fun idea He's

[01:15:37] He's pretty well known for kind of Silly action type of things without being overly silly But so I was really really excited for that one What about you? What were you not excited for? Oh That's hard man I because at the time I was I was body-in

[01:16:02] I mean Thor Dark World seems really exciting I guess we're going to captain America Winter Soldier would probably be the one I was least excited for Interesting Interesting Captain America 2 Ironman 3 Avengers 2 I was I was looking forward to Ironman 3 I think I had because I love the

[01:16:28] Robert Danny Jr. Despite all the flaws Ironman 2 is still super entertaining Chris Maddox on the watch on the NFL And I'd say the one I wasn't too I wasn't feeling at the time as guardians of the galaxy Most because I had the comic book and reading the description

[01:16:44] I was like this sounds absurd and it was and it was you know spoilers great movie Yeah, for sure for sure So to give you guys a preview of what's coming out in our feed here Ironman 3 aka the best Christmas movie in the MCU

[01:17:02] No one can argue with me that it's not a Christmas movie That one we will be recording in July and releasing in August Thor the Dark World we will be recording in August releasing in September Captain America Winter Soldier releasing in October

[01:17:20] Guardians of the Galaxy we will be releasing in November Avengers Age of Ultron we will release in December the holiday gifts Yeah So while you're dashing through the snow and you're one horse open sleigh you can listen to us Ragn how bad

[01:17:42] Iron Johnson's accent is and all that good stuff And then Oddly this phase does end on a non Avengers movie at ends on the atman I'm looking forward to David's production notes on why it ends on a non Avengers movie But it

[01:18:05] That one will be released in January of 2024 and actually that'll be our pot ofersory too That one should be our pot ofersory so exciting stuff there. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the next phase There are the movies really diverged there's some really

[01:18:23] Good ones here and there's some ones that are a little bit of a swing and miss So I'm interested in sort of view it'll be interesting to see all where all these films right I haven't even thought yet, but

[01:18:33] You know got about 30 hours of movie watching to kind of do it all over it Since you watch them over and over again Absolutely absolutely well y'all That does it for our phase wrap up I hope you enjoyed this

[01:18:47] It's really fun to kind of look back as well as look forward And we can't wait to take y'all on this journey with us as we continue through the MCU I should note that those of you who want to be MCU completionists there is some content

[01:19:02] We are not covering in the podcast So releasing alongside phase two was agents of shield We will not be covering agents of shield on this podcast at least until we run out of movies to cover maybe someday We'll decide to go back and watch agents of shield

[01:19:21] But we also won't be covering captain Carter Which was also released on ABC There's also a couple other movies kind of in the ears I'm sorry TV shows in the uva of agents of shield like in humans That we won't cover here so

[01:19:39] Be our guests definitely enjoy those those other content We just won't cover them here So if you're looking forward to like an episode about Chloe from Agents of shield or whatever Sorry, we're not gonna do it Just not gonna be our jam so

[01:19:59] But we will cover all the movies we're really excited to cover the movies We're really excited to get through I'm really excited to get through phase two I think phase two is probably one of the more experimental phases And so really excited to dive into it

[01:20:15] And it starts with a movie that I've probably watched more than anything else in the MCU Because I watch it multiple times every Christmas season with Iron Man 3 So we will see you Next time we see you for a movie it'll be Iron Man 3

[01:20:30] And maybe we'll get a Christmas version of our theme song play But yeah, until then enjoy We'll also see on the monthly view goal here Out here in a couple weeks in your feed Lots of news to cover there We'll see you soon And other than that

[01:20:52] I guess I'll close with our movie closing Pew pod will return