Puny Pod | Monthly Bugle October '23

[00:00:00] Welcome to Puny Pod's Monthly Bugle for October of 2023. My name is Ryan and my co-host as always is David. Do David, I thought we were changing the format of these shows. I was always got to keep the fans guessing. My thoughts are too.

[00:00:23] I thought we were like, you know what? Nothing's going on just delays, no news. Open up comic books from our youth and just read them on a podcast. But the fortunate one to do that. I'm going to take single-handed or dual-handed, I guess, because there's two of us.

[00:00:41] Responsibility for fixing the writer's right. We're taking credit because we were like reverse chinks to it. Yeah, we were like, hey, you know what? All 16,000 of our listeners. We're not going to do monthly bugle like we normally do anymore. There's just not enough news.

[00:01:02] Riders heard that and they're like, we got to get back on the air. We need a monthly bugle. We need a monthly bugle from Puny Pod. That's what we obviously have to do. I think I think more so than the three months of negotiations and posturing mediators,

[00:01:23] executive meetings, shouting matches, more so than any of that is the fact we're like, hey guys, we're tapping out from it. Who was probably the linchpin? I didn't see, you know what's funny.

[00:01:35] I have done a little research on the WJ in sag strikes, which we get into in a minute. I didn't see us mentioned, come on, come on, we'll agree. Rats. Well, for those of you who stuck through last month's special presentation of the dirty yellow strap,

[00:01:56] I apologize for the show image on that one. But we are back on the air with a monthly bugle again this month. There is news to be had. There is current content that is happening that we want to talk about.

[00:02:13] There is real things to be had to have an actual monthly bugle. So we are going to be back at it with our normal monthly bugle content, but what you've come to love every single month or skip and not download as our numbers show.

[00:02:32] But with that being said, let's see here, why don't we jump right into our current content review David. So right now, at recording, we are recording late in the evening of the 18th of October, which means we are on the precipice of a third low key episode.

[00:02:56] But we have two out so far of the second season of low key. And the first episode, I guess here, this is your spoiler alert. We are going to talk about low key where we are going to spoil it.

[00:03:14] Maybe I'll go in and re-edit in a verbal warning or maybe I'll just put it in the show notes on when to skip to if you are not cut up on episodes one and two of season two of low key.

[00:03:31] Looking the show notes, there will at least be notes there if I haven't whispered it. Sweet nothings in your ear about what time stamp to jump to a void. And if you don't subscribe to Disney Plus, just get on it.

[00:03:44] Seriously. Right, just go get it. But yeah, so two episodes of low key. So for those who don't remember in season one, we ended with he who remains being killed. And that caused the timeline to diverge everything is going crazy.

[00:04:09] Low key went back to the TVA and saw he who remains face, which by the way, he who remains is a variant of Kang, King the Conqueror, kind of set up our whole multiverse saga that we are now in.

[00:04:23] And so the first episode of season two really centered around low key trying to figure out what was going on. So he was going, he was time slipping, jumping back and forth through time which is not supposed to be possible where he's at.

[00:04:41] And it kind of wrapped up. It was interesting, I would say one of the things that I think is most interesting about the way this season is written and David Fiel for you to jump in whenever.

[00:05:02] As I think episode one had like all these big ideas that they were like, oh, we'd better wrap it up real quick. Low key time slipping, better not do that anymore here. Let's wrap that

[00:05:16] up in the first episode. And I think that's interesting to me. It's just the way that it feels and maybe it's because I'm so used to a soak of the move so slow, but it feels so

[00:05:31] fast that they're taking care of certain major plot points I think. Interesting. So yeah, we immediately pick up where we left off in season one. There is no except for like statue imagery. There's no king. There's no hero remains. There's no Jonathan majors.

[00:05:50] Which if you'd asked me before like hey we're in yet two episodes then the locus give me no king but what are we doing here? Right, but I actually think it's worked pretty well. I really enjoy

[00:06:03] the like the scenes between locus and mobius. It's kind of like a work buddy cop kind of comedy, too well. And I like everyone else and I'm sure you as well love or

[00:06:19] a boar's, Obey. What I think is was like the star. Yeah, Obey was great. I'm I'm so glad that I that actor's name escapes me right now. And I have the clicky-clacky keyboard out and

[00:06:33] up this off to one. So I won't spare our listeners ears and not look it up. Okay, boy, quant, thank you. See him come back to acting is great for those who aren't aware he was

[00:06:49] short round in Indiana Jones and he was data in the goonies. And he came back to acting in everything everywhere all at once and now is here in loky and he's super fun in loky. Love it.

[00:07:11] I think this is a cadmium word better, right? Yeah. Absolutely. No, I the first two episodes that that had been really good. This is we will not on this show while we are all things

[00:07:22] Marlwell fandom. We will not recap the shows signed by like seen by seeing line by line. There were a lot of really good sources out there that do that, but from kind of high level

[00:07:35] I for me it's for me it's working. The second episode, Loki and Mobius and 115, they go and capture, they go back to 1977 and they go capture hunter X5 who had basically bailed out on the

[00:07:52] timeline and he is living his great life as Brad Wolf. And that was a super fun episode as well. We got a little bit we got a little bit we got a little bit we get a little silvi we have a lot more

[00:08:06] silvi then the first episode and it's setting things up pretty well. I'm really really enjoying the show. I think the only kind of you know the pacing is good it's funny. The two kind of minor

[00:08:18] nits are especially in the first episode where they're talking about realities and time travel and branching and all this other stuff it gets it can get kind of confusing and you almost have

[00:08:31] to just sort of ignore it and just go along with the story which they might use as a lesson when it comes to the kind of quantum anion the stuff that they're going to do in the future with

[00:08:44] like King Dynasty and others. And then I don't know some of the action scenes where it's kind of like okay but I thought overall they both are very enjoyable. I think now when we talked about

[00:08:59] 2023 Marvel content there was like the most important did you say this was most important or did you say Marvel's because you chose one and I chose the other. I think you said this was the most

[00:09:11] important. I think so because I think my my take on it was getting this right resets the multiverse like resets the general consensus popular like the populations thoughts on the multiverse right

[00:09:27] so far the multiverse has had all call it mixed success right you have spider man which was really good you know spider man no way home which was really good multiverse all super fun

[00:09:43] you had multiverse of madness a doctor strange multiverse of madness which I really liked but also met with some critical mixed like mixture dews and then you had quantum anion which I think I am about the only soul on this planet who actually liked that maybe

[00:10:05] it is in I swear in the run of this podcast I'm going to get you admit like you know what I freaking hate this thing but no no I you know some of them some of the I think some of the

[00:10:20] you know Dr. Strange in multiple Madness and man a wasp content media all that stuff gets a get a bit of a ding I think sometimes and I don't know I don't know if it's the element of

[00:10:33] hey you know eyes eyes cool fan I'm going to I'm going to sag I'm going to say these things suck and you know you get pride in like kind of hating on things yeah I think we talked about that a

[00:10:46] little bit in the main show with Dan about how like Thor Dark World has a little bit of that where it's like look I don't love everything that Marvel does I hate this thing right and that thing is usually

[00:10:57] Thor Dark World or quantum anion or whatever right right so yeah I think I think it's I tend to do I do tend to think we'll get to the marbles in a bit I do tend to think that the marbles is more

[00:11:12] important for them to nail or it's more it's it's more credible this is important because it's the first Disney plus sequel show and if it were to bomb or not be well received I think folks would

[00:11:27] just be like why do I watch the Disney plus stuff right um and and they have a little bit of a problem of having having creative universe where you kind of have to watch everything to kind of know what's

[00:11:39] going on yeah I think that's something that I I think Disney on multiple fronts has an issue where like they have really short seasons and we the Star Wars guy's over on um band the milk talk about

[00:11:58] the short seasons and then like the plot doesn't feel like it goes anywhere correct and I think the part of what can alleviate that because I noticed this with the first season of Beloki

[00:12:10] and with um and more both in both cases you had a second season announced ahead of time you knew that there was another season coming and so as an audience member you're more forgiving of a

[00:12:22] of a plot that doesn't resolve right you go okay this was an interesting season I know we have an ex-season there's more things and so um that's one of the things I think Loki gets right is

[00:12:37] that like hey this is a multi-season show it's not a limited run almost everything Disney plus is put out is a is a mini series in real you know in old words right it's a there many series right they're

[00:12:50] not um they're not really traditional shows in the sense that they aren't serialized content that can tend to use a year after year most of it is just hey here's here's a six hour long story

[00:13:05] that we couldn't tell in a three hour movie right and and to that extent it does kind of remind me a little bit of comic books where you might have a four episode six episode run on a storyline

[00:13:19] and it's own discrete storyline and it tells something and it stands on its own and it's great I think if we I think if we reorient ourselves to think it a little more like that it won't

[00:13:31] seem like this the ending of so and so let me down like you know and and I mean some of those expectations that we put on things some of it is art you know show the show winners

[00:13:43] and the studios the studio not really delivering or leaving like an anti-climactic final episode if you will I think a lot of shows like the second last episode has been the banger it gets

[00:13:56] the end one you're like okay yeah I will say about Loki to move off of like some pontificating about you know how does Disney fix their Disney plus problem because I think we could

[00:14:09] talk about that for we can make a whole show about that if we really wanted to. Did you notice the I picked up two Easter eggs in the first episodes did you catch any interesting Easter eggs in Loki what did you say so broxton broxton Oklahoma

[00:14:29] where Loki or where Sylvia is that is the location of new as guard in the comics okay um so in the MCU you know we have new as guard I think it's somewhere in Norway or Canada or something like

[00:14:45] maybe it's main I don't remember exactly where we have it somewhere but new as guard in the comics is in Brockton broxton Oklahoma so guaranteed that's the reference oh that's awesome and then

[00:14:59] in the background of episode two when you're walking around the movie theater you see one of Kango's movie posters from the internals that's cool yeah I've not looked at it closely for the Easter eggs or the pins as we call them in the various episodes I've not watched

[00:15:18] I'm a little bit buying up things and watch the new rockstar you know second by second screen grab you haven't watched the guy who watches movies all the Marvel content at 0.25 speed

[00:15:30] oh that guy I forgot about the guy you were not just that I don't think I've mentioned this auto recorded episode but in my research I found a a human being who watches

[00:15:43] all of I he's beyond just Marvel but just all kinds of content at 0.25 speed and I saw the other day suggested in my YouTube algorithm was watching endgame he watched endgame at 0.25

[00:16:00] I was like man you're gonna need a mirror in all that end that's 10 hours yeah it over 10 hours now I'm out like I like this stuff as much as the next person but I don't hate myself enough to

[00:16:21] to watch the incredible Hulk at 0.25 speed it's not gonna happen to me no but I think it's I like said I am actually after the so-called some really great highs and a couple things are kind of

[00:16:38] really hard to digest internalize as Star Wars fan I thought the first steps that's really really good and I feel we're on firm footing at least in terms of this series yeah Loki is gonna be good it's

[00:16:53] going to be good continue it on here um cool well that that covers our recent content all of our content coverage um so with that thanks for visiting the TVA first off welcome back to those of you

[00:17:15] who are jumping ahead to the timestamp that was listed in the show notes welcome welcome back to the show can we make some sort of like TVA Loki time jump get certain in a branch yeah

[00:17:32] hi y'all jump ahead to minute 40 to minute 15 and you can skip all spoilers I need to use uh I need to get down to get on the AI generation and generate these in this minutes

[00:17:47] wait I was saying my imitation is not spot on how dare you oh I'm offended all right y'all well welcome back to the show I'm gonna plug our other shows on the network

[00:18:00] real quick before we go any further so we mentioned band the milk during our Loki discussion I'll mention them again they they just interviewed a like a metal band that covers John Williams stuff called galactic relt galactic empire pretty good interview so go check out

[00:18:24] band the milk wherever find podcasts are found we also have the supreme resort they just covered Nemo rides they're part one of them covering Nemo rides I love it um and then I can just imagine like 15 minutes just on handrailing

[00:18:50] right right water smells like the leggings it's uh it's a type you know what honestly I will let them break whatever they want to in parts because I do adore their content like very genuinely I love listening to those guys I do know scraping the vault still exists

[00:19:12] apparently they said they'll explain it in their next episode but yes scraping the vault does still exist who else oh well our namesake ears up podcast right now's kind of a fun time they just

[00:19:29] did a armchair imagining where they came up with some spooky restaurants which was really fun and then their next episode is an annual tradition that I honestly think is their best episode out

[00:19:42] of the year which is their spooky stories they always do a spooky stories episode every Halloween that's their next episode that drops so go check out ears up you can also listen to ears up in depth I will

[00:20:02] listen to the most recent the supreme resort if you want a good description of yours up in depth I'll just leave it at that it is a Disney news yeah maybe not on point two five-speed got it

[00:20:18] now there's a lot of content out there also happy birthday Dan happened around in two of the park the other day super fun time so that is awesome yeah also Dan and Eric again happy congratulations on 35 years of

[00:20:37] crawl oh that's a show that's not gonna be on the network but I'm gonna mention it because you know what they're good friends of ours um Dan and Eric are actually getting together to do a

[00:20:48] show eventually called police cleaning so be on the lookout for that I don't know when it releases they they got some stuff in the can they're collecting more cans put more things in

[00:21:02] but it's gonna be Dan explaining Bowie as a super fan to Eric who hasn't listened to Bowie before so check that out one of my one of my very very favorite podcasts was during Robinson

[00:21:20] who wrote we'll get into a little bit wrote up uh it was on the record podcast you used to write four of Andy Fair she wrote a book on the MCU she used to have a podcast with David Chang

[00:21:30] and it was about Game of Thrones and with the premise was basically hi I'm doing Robinson and I've read every book of George Harmarins song of Ice and Fire and Dave Chang's like I've not read anything

[00:21:43] and so they would review this season's house great it was really really good and you had quite a bit so I'm looking forward to that one as well and it's good we have that content because we don't

[00:21:54] have a lot of other content because I don't know if people remember but um we had some content strikes for a bit of period of time so the as we've reported before this is the Labor Union

[00:22:11] Corner of the podcast and just to quick update so as we talked about previously the writer's Gil of America and the screen actors guild American Federation of Television Radio artists sag after run strike um I think WJ went on strike in May and then midway through the

[00:22:33] WJ um strike sag after I joined them and that basically brought all scripted to US production that was under Union contracts to a screeching halt movie TV shows if you were a game show you were cool if you reality show maybe but like everything else nothing

[00:22:57] so and that and we'll get to the um impact which is basically the delayed release of a bunch of different titles but update on a positive note the WJ just last week voted overwhelmingly in favor

[00:23:14] of the contract deal which the Union had negotiated with the studios and it ended the near five month strike sag after it continues to seek their own agreement with the studio and streamers but

[00:23:27] I given some of the given some of the topics that the studios can see down for the WJ I'm kind of hopeful that the screen actors guild will sign quickly but let's say so anyway the Union was

[00:23:41] by all accounts was successful in effort so increased minimum wage compensation increased pensions health unrates improvements to the terms for the length of employment and the size of writing teams which had previously been shrinking quite a bit better residuals including streaming and then

[00:24:02] terms related to AI and this was I think the big one where there was just fundamental disagreement so what they basically agreed to was a writer if I'm so fine as you if you're a writer

[00:24:15] you can choose to employ AI when performing writing services if I have a company consent to it and provide you follow certain like company policies if you are sure but I can't require

[00:24:29] you to use AS offer when performing like chat GPT or whatever and I can't do it without show so that's yeah so that's all really good and that's a pretty you know this when you start talking

[00:24:42] about a new technology like people don't really know like you know even the stuff on the residuals like they're doing better in terms of the streaming residuals where before like you know and so

[00:24:53] they came up with like formula to determine like extra compensation for shows or successful based upon the number of downloads and viewers so all that stuff is good it's not going to be perfect but

[00:25:03] it's it was good enough so them for them to vote I think like almost like 98% in favor so this past week the writer room are back up on broadcast network and the cable and streaming service

[00:25:16] they're looking at their sites kind of back into production there are while there are no celebrity guests to appear on like late night talk shows those shows are back up and running so saturday

[00:25:30] live kicked off season 49 just the other day yeah and so one of the questions one of the things I thought was kind of interesting was like why did this take so long why like these are

[00:25:43] that while the concepts are difficult it's not too difficult for two sides to like come to a agreement on something kind of you know split things down the middle you know and and final

[00:25:54] resolution I think the problem was um that the the rise of these the streaming platforms the decline at theatrical films the way in which cable and broadcast networks operate it fundamentally change in this very short period of time and like Disney is losing both loads of money on

[00:26:18] Disney plus and Hulu and other and other um streaming platforms as engines are growth but I think it was the combination of the studios that are reeling from disruption the unit members feeling

[00:26:30] like they're ripped off and short change which helped create the work stoppage and then um uh veteran skid round about the billy ray who was co-chair of the negotiating community 2017 said

[00:26:42] had an interesting comedy so quote in the end we learned from the strike that the AMTP should not be one entity it should be the legacy studio companies as one bargaining unit and the tech companies is

[00:26:52] another they can make separate deals they have separate needs and so it sounds like that the issue is really not between the like the writers and the studios but the problem is between the studios

[00:27:06] and the tech companies and being completely different odds and once I read that I was like oh that makes much more sense negotiating a three way deal is infinitely more difficult so but once they got

[00:27:18] that relationship fixed then things then the deal got changed pretty quickly and so things like like AI I think those concepts were difficult to get two groups to buy into but so that's the

[00:27:30] good news out there and I also understand from from just some some you know taking in media or whatever over the last several months uh that I think the other big challenge that I have seen is that

[00:27:45] the democratization of media creation so the barriers to entry being so low it to being a film studio right now which is not a problem in and of itself but it does create it has created issues here where

[00:28:04] for what I understand the AMPP is you know essentially controlled by like three people right Comcast is the um and like WV you know kind of the big the big players in that game

[00:28:20] and if any of the three of them don't agree to don't agree to the agreement things just break down and and what I understood was at least through parts of this strike they

[00:28:36] were getting to a point where two out of the three would agree but the third would not and it would completely gum up the works and so you had you had a couple of I'm sure everybody's heard

[00:28:47] about this point a couple of the smaller art house studios you know um like uh A24 or A21 is one of those ones that did I get right the first time A24? Yeah whatever um they they made an

[00:29:05] agreement with the unions and they were able to continue making contact through the strikes because they they were meeting everybody's needs but but from what I understand the big players you know maybe it's Disney disagrees with this one console of the the AI issue and everybody else is

[00:29:28] cool with it but because they have to bargainers one unit it kind of just runs into this this big mess when one of those three players doesn't agree sure well it makes perfect sense if if you are

[00:29:41] presenting a series of requests to a group and that group can't even collectively provide a definitive response the nia it's going to be completely chaos and now I think that was one

[00:29:53] of the things that Billy Wright pointed out which is that hey the studios and the streamers they have to kind of get on the same page themselves and once once you figure out that relationship

[00:30:02] and you can figure out ways which kind of resolve like um you know uh break log jams and decision making all that kind of stuff and so one of the things I again it was a great I think was vanity

[00:30:14] for article that looked into it and one of the things that suggests is now is now that you have agreement and everything's great um now is the time to figure out how to fix those things so

[00:30:27] this is just a three-year contract this is not going on forever so how do you avoid a work stoppage in twenty twenty six once we get to the end of this one there are twenty seven some

[00:30:40] cool what's going on with that what's going on on the actor side actor side so the downside is the writers are back the actors are not so talks broke down last week um kind of mid october

[00:30:57] uh between the studios and sag after the studios said that the gap between the two sides was quote too great to continue productive negotiations so a little bit of like posture going on so until they could bridge the gap tag after we're main on strike and the entertainment

[00:31:16] and the entertainment industry will still remain in a shutdown you you when I could write whatever one two but if you don't have actors it's not to work now how big is the gap

[00:31:24] uh looks like it's four and an eighty million dollars a year which is not a small number so it revolves around like a new string residual formula which sag after put it five hundred million

[00:31:39] and the M PTA is willing to pay twenty million so just remember those numbers five hundred million twenty million and then when we meet next month hopefully the actors will be back they will have ratified contract we'll see what they're real excited yeah hopefully hopefully we

[00:32:00] get started back up and yeah so I know that that was a lot of non-marble specific content before we get to how this impacts marble though I do want to take a quick break

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[00:33:49] where we are with the MC right so we talked a little bit about Loki Loki is currently releasing I haven't heard anything about you know impacts to episode laying certain anything like that I don't I don't think that anything's impacted they know they were they were all

[00:34:05] they were well done beforehand so they were not impacted all a few other things that are coming out that are not currently experiencing any impacts are um where will find night in color which I'm

[00:34:20] not thrilled with mostly because I I think I was actually reading an interview with Michael Gicino and like his use of color was intentional in that release so to put the whole thing in

[00:34:37] color definitely is kind of it's it's very much content star studio does does a thing right there's so much as it just has a quick aside there's so much more stuff you could just

[00:34:55] if you want to add content add blue race stuff add deleted scenes and content right now like the depth of content that is on that on Disney plus it's incredible like push the old

[00:35:12] animated shows tell people to go back and watch the animated spider-man that's on there from the 80s and I think they even have the one from the 60s on there like push push you know

[00:35:22] throwback Thursdays I don't know create a marketing campaign against there around hey this is some of the stuff you you haven't watched before go watch it but but we're getting wearable by night in color

[00:35:37] we also are getting a Lego Marvel movie which is fun Lego Marvel Avengers code red I like those Lego movies I was actually talking at work I started a question of the day

[00:35:48] thing the other day and somebody one of my questions was like what genre of the movie do you like and somebody was like I really like parody comedies we don't get enough of them and then into that

[00:35:59] kind of spawn to conversation and what we ended up landing on is the Lego movies right now so whether it's like the Lego movie Lego Batman Lego Star Wars etc those are the modern day parody comedies interesting Harry movie like airplane whatever those type of movies

[00:36:23] those are basically the Lego movies these days and I think they're really fun um they're definitely a little bit less mature than like a scary movie or airplane or anything like that but I like those like those ready to those are fun

[00:36:39] um and then the big one that's being released we mentioned it earlier but the Marvels is slated for release on November 10. How are you feeling about that one? I am excited I the the the previews are seem good I think so far in the previews

[00:37:03] two two big things that I have noticed one is a change and one is keeping with something that they have. I'm also going to throw out an a expected part of a review so the actresses the main the main character actresses that are involved right

[00:37:23] uh well you have Brie Larson playing Carol Danbers Captain Marvel. I think that finally they are kind of letting Brie Larson be Brie Larson. Brie Larson is not a she's not like your typical action star she's got like a weird energy about her and she does her best

[00:37:47] work when she's allowed to kind of be goofy and kind of be weird um I think she was one of the great parts about um fast X which overall was not a great movie even though I love those movies

[00:38:03] it was very ridiculous but Brie Larson was one of the better parts of it um and from the previews of this it seems like they're going to fix that because I think that's part of why she has

[00:38:13] struggled in the MCU is they have forced her to be kind of stereotypic action star which is not her forte right like a good actor definitely fits the role that they're in and whatever we can

[00:38:26] argue about that for days but um I think for the case of Brie Larson I think that she's she's better off kind of getting to be a little goofy and I think uh that you know you were going to see

[00:38:41] some of that in this yeah yeah we'll get what when we get to um Katramarble which is not too far in the future we'll get a little bit into the dynamics of her and the rest of the cast that we see there

[00:38:54] obviously she's in the ventures and you kind of read some of this stuff um uh website box office pro predicted estimates for the marbles for opening weekend and they put estimates of the

[00:39:10] domestic opening at 50 to 75 million and if that happens that is a disaster yeah like that is Katramarble like like people get fired disaster um yeah yeah and I think and I guess to finish out the three things because I don't want to leave all of our listeners

[00:39:37] on the hook thinking what would they also's writing thinking about um the mongolani gets to be among velani and I think i'm on velani I will go on record she is the best casting in the MCU

[00:39:48] sense Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark um she she is she's really good she's she's she's writing the comics now like she's writing the Miss Marble comics now she is the she is

[00:40:04] Miss Marble that that's who she is in life and so to go on to my third thing which is incidentally about the third marble which is Tiona Paris Monica Monica Rambo I think she's going to be

[00:40:22] the odd person out in this movie and I think her chemistry will be likely lacking with the other two because she is kind of more of that general action star that's kind of how her

[00:40:36] she shows up and so I do I do think we're going to see like her chemistry my guess is her chemistry is going to be off with the other two um that's just my early guess and I do agree I think

[00:40:52] the the hardest part about the take home box office here is um there's crappy people in the world and there are a lot of people who are going to criticize this movie because of the gender

[00:41:14] representation of the leads sure and I think that that those voices right now are unfortunate and they're actually excessively loud and those voices coupled with a struggling MCU right A A

[00:41:30] honestly like unless you are a superheading fan it's to to call uh to call it what it is it is a struggling MCU right now it's not I mean we're not I don't think we're in our death throws or anything

[00:41:44] but it is it is a struggle right now I I think it would be surprising for this one to have a good performance at the box office so pros are that the original Captain Marvel 2019 did 153 million opening 426 million domestic 1.1 billion dollar globally and if you can get

[00:42:16] Marvel can get 70 cents in the dollar I think they'd be pretty happy with that I think that the any could talk about like kind of the time you know the movie when it's coming out like audiences are

[00:42:28] starving to go to theaters as we seem Barbie and with Oppenheimer I think the downside is like you're saying there will be some folks that don't love the cast right because of the representation if you

[00:42:44] well although it was pretty much the same in the last movie and then Marvel's just hit some bumps as you talked about like galaxy the galaxy of the galaxy I'm three was solid but not amazing

[00:43:00] and and the was quantum manuals okay and I don't have sugarcoded just because I was adding here and I think that the problem will and I think would also compounds the problems are a few things one

[00:43:16] the one thing that really I think attracts folks is like the social media traction if you will and the sag after strike really sucks in terms of timing so you can't have them on TV shows and on

[00:43:32] late night shows and talk shows whatever like you know promoting the film sure I guess Kevin Fige could do it but he's not like a superstar anything and so I think that part will be missing I think part of

[00:43:46] we difficult and then they've just got to compete with other stuff in November hungry games is coming out I think the Taylor Swift movies coming out around that same time no Taylor I I wouldn't saw it David

[00:43:58] oh that came out last weekend okay whatever I'm not cool like you man sorry I mean that that would be if okay I will here I am a Taylor Swift fan and right now a running Taylor Swift marble

[00:44:19] parallel is the theory that Taylor Swift will play dazzler at some point in the MCU those unfamiliar with dazzler dazzler is from the comics she started off as a superhero that was actually bought and

[00:44:38] paid for by a disco record company to popularize their disco records and for marble to try and tap into the popularity of disco in the 70s and as she's he has she started out she has become a

[00:44:56] beloved comic book character now she is heavily she's immune so she's based in the the Xman area and and so the rumors are more heavy about dazz about Taylor Swift showing up as dazzler in

[00:45:14] Deadpool 3 but if they have any footage of Taylor Swift as dazzler and they put it at any point in this movie I'm gonna call it now that the box office pros projections will be triple

[00:45:33] sure yeah there's also been like rumors that four might show up or found free you know I you just never know like it just you need that kind of you need that kind of track you need it

[00:45:44] to go yeah you need oh and by the way as a side note I was come put collectory dazzler never came out anybody bunch of copies so like oh man here's my retirement fund right here

[00:45:55] they're worth about 15 dollars today so if I'm not a copy hold on to them just just wait like I'm telling you man and this this is getting away from the MCU a little bit and I apologize but

[00:46:08] that Taylor Swift effect is insane like the the effect that she has on economies and on everything else is absolutely bonkers yeah so I I misspoke about the Taylor hook I didn't realize release I know that um the Hunger Games movies coming out the weekend after

[00:46:29] and then Disney's movie called Wish is the third week and after and so that could undercut it I really hope it does well I don't want it to fail I don't want the

[00:46:41] Dower voices to win for the sake of winning if it sucks great it sucks but you know that the I think the concern and we'll talk a little bit about like upcoming phases is like I just I just worry

[00:46:57] a little bit about um people being down on the film without kind of giving it a chance so yeah that's fair and I mean we'll see I I do think it'll probably have a poor opening

[00:47:15] it's it's best opportunity to make money I think is in its likes if it's a good movie it shows up as a good movie it will it will make it'll make its money in how long it runs not necessarily in the first

[00:47:32] weekend which is kind of it has been the story of some movies lately right like that's that's what Spider-Man I think did there's been a few movies that that have kind of had really long

[00:47:49] tails to their to their box office run um in the other side of it too is is I think people know Disney's formulas to release on on digital release it yeah no yeah that would just gonna wait yeah

[00:48:04] yeah no I think to your point like the couple of the Spider-Man movies were you know kind of decent opening but had a lot of buzz and stuck around for long period of time it's just the element of like

[00:48:19] if you know a a fifty million dollar opening would be the lowest effort yeah for any marvellovi and we have seen some stinkers and it would be the lowest so figures crossed yep

[00:48:33] other content that is on the press piss of coming out well a bunch of things got rearranged to cover for the drought so I don't remember if we covered this last time we spoke but echo did get

[00:48:48] moved off of it's uh dumpy of a poor show thanksgiving yeah it's not gonna be good I'm telling I'm telling you right now like it's not gonna be good like fact that they're like hey we're gonna

[00:49:03] dump it at Thanksgiving like ah we're just gonna dump them all it's not gonna be yeah come back to January it's gonna get dumped sometime in January and I mean I hope it's good

[00:49:19] I think you know indigenous folks are one of the one of the last to get uh representation a lot of ways and so um I'm really hopeful that it's good but it's also good to be tough but let's

[00:49:37] let's talk about some uh some of the rest of of things here so daredevil also had baits some news this last week so um it this was rough yeah I mean we're it's grim all call us a puny pot in depth without maybe they're gonna be today

[00:50:05] it is what it is like you know what I mean to your point like daredevil remember I think one of our very first episodes talking about like hey they're gonna record for a year

[00:50:16] and they're gonna have up to number of episodes and it was gonna be this big I think almost and I think it would when we could work really well you have like daredevil echo and you've got like

[00:50:27] um she-hulk and you've got like uh and that kind of three universe yeah yeah something it's not like hey think about alternate realities and branch time continuum and all that kind

[00:50:40] of stuff and Kevin Faggy looks at the footage and he's like this is not working at all so in late September Marvel quietly let go headwriters Chris Ord and Matt Corman which is not a good

[00:50:56] time um oh so hey you guys aren't working but when the strike is over you're still like you're working like and then they release the directors and they're basically starting over there I think there's some stuff they could probably use but I don't

[00:51:18] velocity or so that's not good that was supposed to be phase five um Deadpool was pushed off because of the writer strike hopefully if the actors get back quickly it can hopefully still meet its May 2024 yeah Deadpool got pushed to May 3rd 2024 I did

[00:51:37] see this week the director was being interviewed somewhere and he said it is in an quote significant danger now of course I was reading that article for his comments on

[00:51:50] if Taylor Swift was gonna be in a movie but um no uh joking yes idea he said it's in it's in significant danger of ending up to the age which um is just a point but it's a

[00:52:03] long list it though like we had last time we had a May without a without a super year on movie um meet a Marvel movie yeah uh probably May 2007 oh you mean in the theater

[00:52:21] um a Marvel movie yeah uh well was when was um when was black widow black wolf was july yeah probably 2021 2021 2021 not a lot not a lot of movies came out I'm not sure what happened but um

[00:52:41] yeah it's a bummer it's bummed about Deadpool you know all the phase five movies is Captain America brave new world Thunderbolt played those were all pushed off you think about it you were without writers like they were almost done with Deadpool and then had to rewrite some stuff

[00:53:00] so okay we've lost five months there the actors are on strike losing more time there so of course if you know we're talking about like at least six months of production time and even though stuff

[00:53:11] usually slows down minder standing uh towards the end of the year even if you fearlessly like crank out content it's still gonna be delayed so i don't know hopefully let's say really echo the movie in May um i think stuff's gonna get pushed to be honest

[00:53:33] yeah yeah and i you know i should be clear because i don't want anybody to get get it confused or get it get it twist it um you know i know we as fans are disappointed that

[00:53:51] things are getting pushed um but in no way do we blame the writers like i think we've made it pretty clear to be the the the demands that they're making are are reasonable let's keep it

[00:54:06] they are they are fighting for the the right things and as much as we as fans are like having an insults that we don't get to watch her we don't get to watch our talkies this year um

[00:54:18] it is it is good that these things are you know it is it is healthy that we are addressing these things these are these are things that need to be addressed so um also that bought me enough

[00:54:30] time to look up when the last time we had a May without a marble movie um which was uh 2021 2020 yes 2021 and 2020 we were just May um and actually so Avengers Infinity War well Avengers Endgame released on April 26 so just before May Infinity War was April 27 again

[00:54:57] just before May um and then before that the next time was Winter Soldier which we just got done reviewing which released April 4th of 2014 okay but May is May is a big time and so if we

[00:55:15] I think in a non pandemic impact a year um to see a May that is likely to be devoid of a an MCU movie is it's strange yeah it is tough so you've got you've got you know they've talked

[00:55:35] about phase five, phase six like who even knows what the phase is already more um the only thing we know are that the the in addition to the other in addition to echo what if uh season two was pushed off

[00:55:50] agatha are called diaries is now late 2024 um and phase six a lot of stuff is kind of TBD so I think from the show perspective ironheart is to be announced what if it's to be confirmed

[00:56:10] but we're pretty sure it's gonna happen sometime in 2020 something late in phase six um they announced at one of the um Disney conventions expo things that um there'd be I think it was eight projects they announced three of them it was fantastic for which supposed to be May 2025

[00:56:34] Avengers King Dynasties May 2026 and Emery Avengers Secret Invasion May 2027 and then a couple of kind of rumored um uh tv shows rumored projects but like the only else who confirmed shanktie to spy man for and then a bunch of stuff so it's like Dr. Strange Nova in

[00:56:59] 45 I think Xman 97 is confirmed Xman 97 is um I think it's bad they've rumored they've advertised it heavily I mean it's it's been it's been pushed hard I will say they they've they've pushed it through there they're like podcasts and stuff and whatnot now it has not been

[00:57:27] I don't know that we have a release date or anything I guess is it's mostly in the can from from how much they talked about it and how close to like some rumored release dates it was and

[00:57:40] stuff like my gut tells me that most of Xman 97 is waiting to be released which honestly really that in in your drought like Lisa cartoon yeah the one thing I'd seen is that it is it is still

[00:57:58] confirmed but it was TBAs of relates to date so I think that the Xman 97 the animated series again easier to do voice actors it's like less production is going to be January 2024 but this is these

[00:58:16] are all like these old dark board guesses if you will right so um the there were I remember when I was like at the slots originally they were like three or four movies are unannounced

[00:58:28] they were just you know TBAs of a release and kind of how and this kind of gets in discussion like how you feel about the MC and how if one of those is not Xman people are going to riot

[00:58:41] like it's just why did you buy it if you're not gonna play with the toys yeah I think I think Xman has to be has to be the next and you know what maybe Xman is there I think Deadpool is Deadpool

[00:58:58] and some sort of Xman something or other maybe in conjunction with fantastic for those are kind of their big red buttons it feels like like maybe those are their things that they actually end up pulling forward if it feels like the MC used falling apart maybe those are

[00:59:17] projects that they that they bump up in the really schedule and bump you know other things back right armor wars maybe gets bumped back shung Qi gets bumped back you know some of those that

[00:59:32] like yeah you know it'd be great to do these but right now we're just not making the money they know that they have cash cows sitting out there in Xman fantastic for and Deadpool I think those are

[00:59:46] three cash cows that are just you know waiting to be really. Right and and and again we'll get like in future episodes we kind of get into like you know current release late like you know what

[00:59:59] they how we're gonna you know are we rebooting the MCs it's a soft reboot or we're going to like what direction it takes in the next in the coming years if you will but they bought they bought

[01:00:10] 20 century fuck they bought the Xman they brought that stuff four years ago so if the and I saw an article I think it was on IGN which talked about how they were preliminary kind of starting to

[01:00:22] gather together trying to pick a writer and try to export a little bit more so I personally feel like they almost have to do it let me ask you this so so we've talked about phase five what's delayed what's

[01:00:38] upcoming um there are three again there are three confirmed movies there are I'm sorry there are five confirmed movies fantastic for King Dynasty secret division so two of engine movies Shang Qi two in Spider-Man 4 confirmed there are rumors around Dr Strange 3, Thor 5,

[01:00:57] armor wars black Panther Nova I even saw one Xman Wonderman but none of those last ones are not confirmed so like stepping back big picture like how are you like looking forward to the release straight

[01:01:13] this slate because you're like okay I've got Marvel's coming up I've got Echo in January maybe I've got Xman 94 dead pull three sometime in 2024 maybe Captain America 2024 Thunderbolt so how do you feel

[01:01:32] about it all yeah I think I think phase five I am feeling pretty confident about the phase five projects dead pull three I think is is gonna happen I have very little doubt in my mind

[01:01:50] and I think it'll be good I am interested to see what comes out of it I'm worried about I'm worried about Daredevil I was really excited it was really ambitious it was you know a traditional

[01:02:05] American slate it was 20 episodes or something like that which is a traditional American television show slate and I was excited that hey we're gonna do you know something a little bit more traditional

[01:02:18] here maybe it won't be a special effects heavy maybe it won't look as good as a as you know the things were used to on Disney Plus but you know what it's street level it doesn't need that much

[01:02:31] so I'm worried about that I think Captain America brave New World Thunderbolts those are pretty pretty sure things those are gonna be pretty popular you know they're not they don't take a lot

[01:02:49] of brain power to figure out you know I think I think that those those likely come out those likely do well they're they're they're pretty traditional superhero type movies blade I'm a little worried about if we're being honest I think it's I think all the stuff that's

[01:03:13] weird is in danger which is unfortunate because I love the weird I love the weird side of Marvel but I think that that's like those are the most likely to get scrapped right now

[01:03:28] um and and so because I think I think the general populace has moved back away from Marvel a little bit you know obviously it's still makeup popular and all that stuff it's not like it's the it's not

[01:03:47] being released in our house is there anything like that but um yeah I think I think there is some fatigue and I think that fatigue is unfortunately gonna it's gonna cost us some of them more ambitious more uh to borrow a phrase from our our guests

[01:04:11] the movies that your your grandma's gonna beat you up for going and seeing um I think we're gonna lose and and it's unfortunate um but I I think that's the reality I think they probably go back

[01:04:26] to kind of the phase one phase two formula of four or five solo um films that then culminated in Avengers film um per phase and instead of like you know this was gonna be like 10 solo films

[01:04:47] before we got an Avengers film right I think end shows yeah yeah and I I think we go back to that I do think the shows probably have some staying power um because the shows have generally

[01:05:04] performed decently well um they've moved on well well enough um I would love I would honestly love to see them cut the budget on the shows a little bit um they look beautiful you you and Disney

[01:05:19] finance both yeah yeah but I I think I think if they cut the budget on the shows a little bit and like you can't you can stop blaming the shows at that point right if if the shows are

[01:05:35] a little cheaper to make and like they don't look horrible right now there's CGI gaps here and there but um lean out the shows a little bit um and I think that makes them a little bit better because

[01:05:57] it frees the the studio up to not hang as much on it right there's not as much expectation financially on it if the budget's a little lower um I don't know that that's my take on the shows

[01:06:12] I I think because I think realistically the shows are what keeps your streamer going because Disney has to 100% has to elongate the time from theater to the streamer um that is

[01:06:28] a problem that they have right now is they are like the time it the time from when a when a movie is in the theaters to when it's on the streamer it's way too short that's why their box

[01:06:40] office returns soft like it's not as simple as tagging one thing um for sure but um I think that's a major player is like people are just gonna wait I just waited for haunted mansion I love the

[01:06:54] haunted I love the war of the haunted mansion I ended up actually really enjoying the movie it's good but I just waited um and I and I think you know Marvel movies I go to on opening night

[01:07:06] partially because I love them but also partially because I don't want the spoilers and all that kind of stuff um but I think more I think Disney has to has to stretch out that time

[01:07:19] and I and when they do that means that they're gonna be starved for content on the streaming service which means you have to have more shows yeah yeah I think it's um I think I think the

[01:07:32] we talked earlier about the basis for the strike all the stuff that kind of contributed to it the kind of changing landscape the how streaming was the big thing go back to you know black

[01:07:44] widow coming out and just releasing a straight to video and that led to big dispute but like how the economic model is changing and I I get that they need to have

[01:07:58] new content to drive subscriptions on Disney Plus but I feel like they try to bite off more than they can chew right like one of the things I get the sense from um and reading different articles like

[01:08:12] one of the things that Kevin Fige does really well he like he kind of balances everything out any kind of kind of oversee and dip in on different projects and he can be helped with the connected

[01:08:24] tissue which is cool if you've got like two movies going at the same time but when you've got two movies stuff in development you've got shows going on at the same time I think it's really

[01:08:35] difficult and I think we've seen it in some of the quality of some of the Disney Plus shows there is I'm really enjoying Loki I'm struggling to find something in the next year that's coming

[01:08:49] out that I'm like I cannot wait for this and that's the part I kind of struggle with and it's not it look it's no fault you know Disney and Marvel they're trying to kind of um they're trying to

[01:09:06] create new characters not necessarily rely upon the original Chris' they're trying to like find that next you know superstar lead things you know unfortunately it was probably going to be Chadwick Boseman at the time and obviously that's not coming to fruition um sadly enough and

[01:09:26] their trying to figure out is it going to be is it going to be the new Captain America I don't know right yeah I don't know like and I don't think they know I don't I don't think they know either

[01:09:39] like what they released they released um by all accounts they thought that M&O was quantum M&O was going to be a banger like like in a room this is going to be great and it was not great

[01:09:54] and so I think we're in this kind of unsteady of state of like not that do they know what they're doing but are they as confident as sure as you were before and I don't I don't know I don't

[01:10:06] I don't answer that yeah yeah and I think that's fair I think you know what's interesting is I I almost wonder I almost man this this almost gets me back to the feeling of like when I

[01:10:21] am in one was coming out of like oh this is actually this is a cool idea um but like who knows if it's going to work and we haven't felt that with Marvel in a long time

[01:10:38] Marvel has been the sure thing right Marvel has been the the money maker it's been the cash and I mean it's I think you release a Marvel movie and you're going to make money but like

[01:10:51] it's it's not it's not where you go okay what's the big Marvel movie that's releasing in May that's going to be your number one movie of the year we're not at that point too um we're not

[01:11:06] and I think it's interesting for sure um and uh yeah I I definitely have projects I'm excited for going forward but I also like weird stuff I also have the I think like the lowest I'll

[01:11:23] go on a rating of Marvel thing is like six which is a personal flaw of mine but um yeah I mean it's it's interesting times for sure and I think uh a cocktail of a global pandemic

[01:11:46] a followed by which I think without a global pandemic you would not have had a writers in an act or strike but I think we still would have actually I think we would have over just some of

[01:12:00] the concepts around like yeah AI streaming the streaming I think really that that is a sea change in terms of how money is made and this very secret if like hey Ryan you're writing this for

[01:12:14] I don't know low key season three I'm gonna pay you residuals I'm not going to tell you how they're calculated but trust me bro like and the course writer is like what are you talking about like

[01:12:24] and so I just I don't know like I'm not idea I think I think it's a perfect storm right now for Marvel and it's it's one that'll be interesting to see if there were others I think without

[01:12:36] a global pandemic without writers and actors strikes without um some of the societal things we've seen to I think um I think I don't know that Marvel would be here today um I think that's an

[01:12:52] interesting what if right like Marvel has really great what if comics and a lot of these things were announced pre 2020 right a lot of this slate that we're looking down the barrel of how to

[01:13:05] fix it right now was um was was announced before we knew what the world was going to look like right now and I think I don't think anyone would have guessed what the world is gonna look like right now

[01:13:21] and it does leave you an interesting place because then Marvel has to like have the PR of canceling it's right ultimately there are gonna be projects that that have been announced and there are going

[01:13:33] to be release dates that have been claimed that they are going to cancel I don't think that there is any way around that I hope there there there are going there are going to be things

[01:13:47] for the first time I can remember where Marvel says hey we're not doing anything and that's lot anymore right they've they've moved things around slots before that's happened but I can't remember a time where they've said hey we were going to release something in this

[01:14:01] slot we're no longer going to do that and in the words of Ivan Bancel if you make the the bleep. because God sorry I had to say we're not it's not bird it's not my bird man

[01:14:24] no I think like look I like you know five you get say a lot of difference and a lot of trust in terms of what he and a larger group are going to do they've managed to pull it off so far I

[01:14:42] grew through this feels kind of like early days of Marvel like as this really gonna work is the big green guy with the CGI and the purple pants gonna work as a character is the

[01:14:54] is the drug in weapons our manufacturing dude in the middle of like the time of the Afghanistan war we're not really loving like halibur now this is acting a play well and they

[01:15:06] somehow pulled it off and I think they'll pull it off here I but I am completely on board with hey if something's not working just prune it man like you they're already ditching I've our bread that they're ditching wonder man and it might be ditching some other stuff

[01:15:21] just because it was announced like I'd rather have good stuff and then wait for more good stuff than get like a okay yeah Thunderbolts who's okay like you know what I mean while speculation it closed out this section because I think we've been negative enough and I

[01:15:40] we haven't been negative we've we've been honest but you use the word pruning which for those familiar with Loki they prune timelines to make sure that the sacred timelines stays in the pack all I could stop how ridiculous would it be if there's a scene in Loki where

[01:16:02] they're pruning movies that they're canceling love it and they're just like oh yeah fantastic for your prune like not that they're gonna not that they're gonna prove fantastic for I think that's one

[01:16:15] of the more sure projects but you know armor wars we travel to a universe in Loki where there's armor wars going on and we prune that timeline that'd be kind of funny like you know the rumors

[01:16:30] that deadpool will show up in his movie and kill the former is it one about 20 centrihox whether they buy yeah he's there's filming he was filming in front of a 20 centrihox like the like title screen yeah right so that would be funny to do and we'll see like

[01:16:52] I like I will certainly watch it all I'm just I'm just guardedly I'm just a look guarded right now because it's it cuz if all the delays you know it kind of dampens enthusiasm but I think you just need

[01:17:06] to have like a couple really good ones come out you're like okay I'm back in and Loki's done that least for me so yeah for sure and the good news is you will have our podcast to listen to through

[01:17:16] it all um we're I think we're set for content for another five years or something crazy like we are going to be broadcasting daily so listening to the no kidding but yeah let's let's talk about

[01:17:31] the last little piece of news here um so I know Jason all the main show had a random package show up he got like a massage gun or something I had a random package show up last week as

[01:17:47] well um do tell so show up on my my doorstep I got a well a very adorable open one for my child as well as I did know your size Ryan sorry about that a little bit got me matching

[01:18:05] as well as um MCU the reign of Marvel Studios which David I think you referenced this earlier is a behind the scenes story of the MCU I think you've read more of it than I David and for the

[01:18:20] listener David sent it to me um I actually but unlike Jason who gets random things from people that seems vaguely threatening I actually know who sent me my stuff. No it's uh it's um if you are not

[01:18:38] related to us and you listen to the show um that means you enjoy the MCU you enjoy some in-depth stuff this is the book for you it is uh it's written by John Robbson tapian's allows

[01:18:54] um and principally and it starts kind of at the beginning and talks about how we got to where we are now not necessarily in terms of like a movie by movie um uh revisiting but just more like

[01:19:08] step the tapping behind the scenes and so some of the stories we've talked we've touched upon some of the Marbrando I'm about a fifth of the way through the book at this point time I am actually going

[01:19:20] to a book signing on Wednesday that I'm going to drag my wife and son too and they're not complete but that's okay but it's really it's a it's very entertaining it's well written it they had pretty good access to um various Marvel executives creators writers you know producers

[01:19:46] and so forth at one point time I was like and maybe we don't want to talk in the many more but they were able to kind of like finish up the book um I'm not at the part where they're talking about

[01:19:57] the current slate of stuff um I read one article that's just that Marvel might even looking at some of the stuff on the counter might even do like a soft reboot my bring back

[01:20:07] you know open up the truck and bring back Robert Denny Jr or whatever to kind of reboot things but it's really entertaining it's well written it's a fun read if you like Marvel if you like

[01:20:18] Marvel comics if you like the MCU you know highly recommended nice that is awesome yeah I'm excited to get into it um I've been reading like new Marvel comics lately so that's been a lot

[01:20:31] of my reading time but thanks um yeah I'm excited to get back into uh book like that so I appreciate you uh you being so kind as to ruin my wife's Christmas plans to herman off for me

[01:20:49] no but but legitimately um yeah it should be cool I saw I saw some articles about it about and so I'm really excited for the book so oh David I think that's everything anything else I can't believe you think anything else

[01:21:08] no we talked about the main stuff um you know like I said I'm I'm hopeful you know one strikes over get the other strike over let's start creating some stuff so yeah I think we kind of

[01:21:20] talked about the main things yeah well real quick a couple of news and notes pieces that I want to get out here before I plug our social media's um next episode of the main show will be

[01:21:38] Cardiomood Galaxy I'm super looking forward to it I've almost turned it on like three times I just haven't just been that busy but very excited for that one it's one of my favorite MC

[01:21:48] movies so uh very excited to revisit it um I'm also um I also did want to mention those of you who subscribe to the ears up patreon and you have not heard our secret show don't worry

[01:22:07] we I'm just terrible and haven't edited anything so um I am getting under it and I actually literally have up in my other screen as we record um the Avengers episode of uh the super secret

[01:22:25] spoiler show um and so I just got to get that edited down and get that sent off to Papa Jason to get posted um so look out for those I think we're gonna try and release them every two weeks

[01:22:40] until we're caught up because we recorded them um but we just didn't I I have been slack and on editing them so uh look for those coming out soon um if you're not part of the

[01:22:51] ears up patreon now's a great time to join should also mention for those of you who are on the ears up patreon um you can now access your secret show feed through um Spotify which is really nice

[01:23:05] if you listen to your podcast they're Spotify otherwise it's nice it goes into to the your uh episodes playlist and all that good stuff um so nice little uh added feature there but um

[01:23:21] other than that check us out on our social media's we are puny pod p u n y p o d no matter where you look for us um I know that in your pod catcher you're seeing marvel fandom pod cast by puny pod that's

[01:23:34] a name change that we did recently just to try and fish for a few more clicks um well yeah find us as puny pod you can find me as puny rgh on instagram find us on discord that used up discord

[01:23:53] links in the show notes as always um and yeah other than that I think that is enough set