EarzUp! In-Depth | Episode #94: Snow White's Turnaround, Chapek Lands on His Feet, and More!

[00:00:00] Hey, I'll take some and some Frank's Red Hot.

[00:00:03] You're just gonna eat these boring nachos with no flavor.

[00:00:06] Uh...

[00:00:06] Frank it up!

[00:00:07] Frank it up!

[00:00:09] This guy finally gets it!

[00:00:10] It's the perfect blend of flavor and heat.

[00:00:12] Frank's Red Hot, I put that sh** on everything.

[00:00:15] Hey, what's going on everybody? EarzUp in-depth.

[00:00:22] We got our outro music for intro music and our intro music for outro music.

[00:00:26] We're all kinds of messed up over here.

[00:00:29] But that's okay.

[00:00:31] I kinda like the outro music too.

[00:00:32] I mean, it's just a variation, so I think it's fine.

[00:00:35] Yeah.

[00:00:36] Yeah, you know, we're mixing it up every now and then.

[00:00:38] Yeah, we can't just be the same all the time.

[00:00:42] You know, I do want to start off this show, Jeremy, apologizing to everybody who follows

[00:00:46] us on Facebook.

[00:00:47] Because I...

[00:00:49] This is long overdue, by the way.

[00:00:51] Yeah.

[00:00:52] I messed up today.

[00:00:55] Actually, it was yesterday.

[00:00:59] Let me tell you, if you follow us on Facebook, you may have noticed, I don't know, 200 posts

[00:01:05] in the last 24 hours that are just basically old shows.

[00:01:11] Old videos showing up on Facebook, and I'm actively right here just going through and

[00:01:16] trashing them, deleting each and everyone because I didn't do it.

[00:01:22] Here's what happened, I read about a way to, what am I trying to say, YouTube has gone

[00:01:29] like podcast, okay?

[00:01:31] So you can link your RSS feed to YouTube podcasts now it's a whole thing.

[00:01:36] So if you want to listen to pods and you just you want the YouTube app, you don't want any

[00:01:40] other app, you can find podcasts on YouTube.

[00:01:44] But what they are basically are just video.

[00:01:47] So they say that they're audio, or they say that they're video, but they're just it's

[00:01:50] just an audio format, but they created a video, technically, and it plays it, it plays

[00:01:55] the audio of the show with just like a static image, boring, but it's not really for video.

[00:02:01] You know what I mean?

[00:02:02] But that's just their thing, that's their work around because that's what they do is

[00:02:05] videos, right?

[00:02:06] And so what I have is because I don't have interest in really managing or maintaining

[00:02:13] our social media, like for myself, because social media is so soul sucking for me personally.

[00:02:22] I have everything automated.

[00:02:24] So every time a new show gets published or every time a new video gets pushed to YouTube,

[00:02:31] it posts it to Facebook and probably also to Instagram too.

[00:02:34] So I'm going to have to go through this and do this whole thing on Instagram as well.

[00:02:38] And what I didn't realize, what I did not know, what happened, is this automation thing,

[00:02:45] Zapier, posted each and every single show as a video format to our Facebook page.

[00:02:54] So that's why you're seeing all these old shows coming up because the robot in the machine

[00:03:01] doesn't understand that this is already done.

[00:03:04] Well, I can tell you that it's not happening on Instagram so you can rest easy there.

[00:03:10] I will tell you, I noticed this and I actually clicked on one yesterday, but it didn't even

[00:03:15] bring me to any audio.

[00:03:17] I clicked the link and it was like, this is not a video, it was almost like an invalid

[00:03:21] link.

[00:03:22] So then I started commenting on the post, there's no video here.

[00:03:27] And then I deleted it because I was like, you know what, I'm not getting involved.

[00:03:31] I'm in too deep like I'm just letting you go, whatever he's up to, I don't know what

[00:03:35] it is.

[00:03:36] I'm just letting you go.

[00:03:38] Yeah.

[00:03:39] Yeah.

[00:03:40] Well, just to let you know, I did not do that on purpose everybody.

[00:03:43] So I do apologize if that interrupted your precious, precious Facebook feed.

[00:03:48] If anybody's even still on Facebook, I don't even really know.

[00:03:51] Sure.

[00:03:52] People are on Facebook.

[00:03:53] Are they?

[00:03:54] Yeah, I think I saw this and then a friend of mine told you before the show was like my

[00:03:57] friend texted me and was like, what's going on with yours?

[00:04:00] I was like, good question.

[00:04:02] Yeah.

[00:04:03] You're like, yeah.

[00:04:04] So my friend said what's going on with his upper like, Oh, no, now what?

[00:04:08] What did we inadvertently do by we?

[00:04:11] I mean, my me and my robot performance, even the robot anyway.

[00:04:16] That's what's happening.

[00:04:17] But that's neither here nor there.

[00:04:19] Jeremy, we heard him talk about some news, so I didn't either hear nor there.

[00:04:25] It's like all the things I don't want to do sitting there, deleting all these posts on

[00:04:30] Facebook is like five of the things I don't want to do.

[00:04:32] Like I don't want to spend my time doing that.

[00:04:35] I want to get away from Facebook and away from it.

[00:04:38] So if anybody wants to learn how to do social media that's something you're interested in,

[00:04:44] let me know, man.

[00:04:45] I'll hire you for free and teach you how to do it because I know how to do it.

[00:04:50] I just, I really don't like it.

[00:04:52] I don't like it at all.

[00:04:54] I know I noticed I got in trouble one time because you the it had posted on Instagram

[00:04:59] that there was a that the that our podcast was out.

[00:05:02] So I went to podcasts.

[00:05:03] I was like, Oh, let me see.

[00:05:05] And it wasn't there.

[00:05:06] And I commented like it's not there.

[00:05:09] Yeah.

[00:05:10] I think you were like, shut up and give it a minute.

[00:05:12] Yeah, it takes a it takes more than a light year.

[00:05:15] Second thing.

[00:05:16] I don't know, man.

[00:05:17] Anyway, Jeremy got some news to talk about today.

[00:05:19] We have got news and I have I have some little tiny updates on stuff.

[00:05:24] So, you know, I have four stories or whatever.

[00:05:27] There are a lot of them are really small.

[00:05:30] Okay.

[00:05:31] And hardly worth mentioning, but I do feel like it's it's important, which is always

[00:05:35] what you want to hear at the top of any news show.

[00:05:38] These are hardly worth mentioning, but I'm going to do it anyway, because stay tuned.

[00:05:43] Yeah, it's Thursday and if I don't do this, I'm just going to go be go play destiny.

[00:05:48] So it's like, right, I got to do this, give my thumbs a break.

[00:05:53] Okay.

[00:05:54] Why don't you lead us off, Jeremy?

[00:05:55] What do you think of that?

[00:05:56] Okay.

[00:05:57] Right.

[00:05:58] She went from pissing off Disney fans to being a huge snow white stand.

[00:06:03] That's the first time I've ever used stand.

[00:06:07] Really?

[00:06:08] You know how people say that like I stand or yeah, I hate it, but I do.

[00:06:13] It rhymed here.

[00:06:14] So I used it.

[00:06:15] Good job, buddy.

[00:06:16] Our friend Rachel Ziegler is back on the scene after she took a little break, but then

[00:06:22] she's humanity can you remember here back in August, we covered how she was experiencing

[00:06:28] some blowback after doing a press because she's the new snow white.

[00:06:32] She's the new live action, Snow White.

[00:06:35] And you know, she was out there, I think it was a D 23 and then maybe some other places

[00:06:39] and she was saying a lot, basically saying a lot of negative things about the original

[00:06:43] animated feature from 1937.

[00:06:45] She was saying he was weird, but now the Snow White actress seems to be backtracking on

[00:06:49] those comments.

[00:06:50] You recall, she said she didn't like the original Snow White.

[00:06:54] She said she watched it once.

[00:06:56] She said she thought it was weird.

[00:06:58] She described Prince Charming as a stalker.

[00:07:00] She said the ride at Disney World scared her and that it didn't sound very fun for a

[00:07:05] little kids.

[00:07:07] Well, last month, Ziegler sat down with variety in their actors on actors series where this

[00:07:15] corner, they get actors to interview each other and it's like, it's like a chat.

[00:07:20] Great.

[00:07:21] There's nothing.

[00:07:22] There's nothing worth self serving then actors who think that they're just the greatest thing

[00:07:28] in the world telling each other how great they think that they are.

[00:07:32] I don't know how you predicted it.

[00:07:34] This was 40 minutes of sheer torture.

[00:07:39] So they put it on opposite of actress Halle Bailey.

[00:07:46] Now Halle Bailey, you'll know is the Oishi, the new mermaid, new little mermaid.

[00:07:52] Bingo.

[00:07:53] Exactly.

[00:07:54] OK.

[00:07:55] So here we have Halle Bailey who's played Ariel.

[00:07:56] First of all, I can let me just interrupt you.

[00:07:57] You have to what I would consider relatively inexperienced actresses, both in a live action

[00:08:05] Disney movie.

[00:08:07] So I think already they're already going to be overly complimentary.

[00:08:10] So in my mind, what you need to be doing with this is you need to have a seasoned actor

[00:08:16] interviewing a relatively new up and coming actress.

[00:08:20] That's what you need to.

[00:08:21] That's what needs to happen.

[00:08:22] You know what I mean?

[00:08:23] Maybe Holly Berry or some like somebody Jody Foster.

[00:08:26] I don't know somebody else, but you have two kids who basically are learning how to

[00:08:32] be adults in Hollywood, which is never a safe space and you know, I don't know, I just

[00:08:37] it doesn't really I would not want to watch that.

[00:08:40] Well, you do not want to watch it.

[00:08:43] Trust me, I spent 40 minutes of my life that I will never get back.

[00:08:47] And the whole time I was it wasn't even like 40 minutes of staring at the wall that's just

[00:08:52] really boring.

[00:08:53] It was 40 minutes of just absolute driving me crazy.

[00:08:56] I was angry.

[00:08:57] I'm yelling back at the screen.

[00:08:59] And you're on you haven't even heard it and you're on to something in that it is so self

[00:09:07] congratulatory.

[00:09:08] You've never seen two people spend 40 minutes work so hard at congratulating the other one

[00:09:15] on how amazing they are.

[00:09:17] That's what Gen Z does like that's like the Gen Z, you know, thing it's like, oh, you're

[00:09:24] so good.

[00:09:25] No, you're so good.

[00:09:26] No, and like, no, you are.

[00:09:28] No, no, no, no, no, I could never be here without you.

[00:09:32] It's also it's like a video.

[00:09:33] So you see their facial expressions so so how they really will be saying something and

[00:09:37] Rachel's like, there's making this face I am sorry for the listeners if you aren't watching

[00:09:41] the video, but she's like she's making heart hands and going home and like you see sad

[00:09:46] face or something or like.

[00:09:48] Yeah, it's like a go down, like face, yeah, making heart hands and I'm like and like there's

[00:09:54] like a lot of prayer gestures and like, okay, well, let's just go to this.

[00:10:00] Let's go back to the idea.

[00:10:01] Let's talk about this after.

[00:10:02] Okay.

[00:10:03] But I did pull.

[00:10:04] There's one I didn't number them.

[00:10:06] That's why.

[00:10:07] Philip the one that's called like, yes, wow.

[00:10:09] Okay, you ready?

[00:10:10] Yeah.

[00:10:11] Suzanne Collins who wrote them, she's doing right by them because she created the universe.

[00:10:16] Yes.

[00:10:17] Like she can't really do any wrong because it's her world.

[00:10:22] Yes.

[00:10:23] Frances came to me and was like, I really want you to do this.

[00:10:27] It's the biggest honor of my career thus far and I can say that confidently that I can't

[00:10:32] believe that I get to be a part of that franchise and doing junk in the past 16 days.

[00:10:36] It's just been like sitting there watching the reporter but seeing the poster next to

[00:10:40] them and seeing my face on like in the Hunger Games logo beneath it just constantly being

[00:10:45] like this is not.

[00:10:47] Who was who in that clip?

[00:10:49] But the one who was eat like yammering on and that's Rachel Stegler.

[00:10:55] And then the one interrupting fully throughout going, yes.

[00:11:00] If you don't have anything to say, don't react, don't make noise, don't just sit there

[00:11:08] as an actress.

[00:11:09] You should know that.

[00:11:10] Just sit there and listen to this person who you are interviewing, yes.

[00:11:16] Talk about the things that you asked them about, yes.

[00:11:22] You know when I sit here and I see Luke Skywalker on the wall behind me, I just, it's his world

[00:11:27] and he can do no wrong, you know.

[00:11:30] Wow.

[00:11:31] Good.

[00:11:32] It's actually really distracting.

[00:11:33] I don't really do it.

[00:11:34] I'm gonna do it too for your whole story.

[00:11:36] Yes.

[00:11:37] So that was, and then they would switch.

[00:11:39] Of course.

[00:11:40] It would be the other one telling some like just got who knows what they're going on about.

[00:11:46] And then you'd hear the, "Mm, oh my God."

[00:11:49] And then they would talk to each other.

[00:11:51] Then there was one point where they were both fake crying, like because Rachel Stegler

[00:11:56] talked about how she was in a Snow White costume when she was a little girl and they like

[00:12:00] showed the picture.

[00:12:02] And that was enough to make Hallie Bailey start crying.

[00:12:05] Oh my God.

[00:12:06] She was, "Oh my God, don't show me that it's you in a Snow White, oh no, I'm like, I'm

[00:12:10] serious, I'm serious, I'm crying.

[00:12:12] I'm gonna cry."

[00:12:13] And you're like, "You're crying because you saw her in a picture of a kid in a costume?"

[00:12:18] Yeah, like it's cute, maybe you would go, "Oh that's cute."

[00:12:21] That's how I would be.

[00:12:22] I would be like, "Oh look at you, that's cute."

[00:12:24] I'd be like, "Oh my God, take it away, I'm crying."

[00:12:27] And he would have anything sharp, I can stick in my retinas because I can't see this anymore,

[00:12:31] I can't do it.

[00:12:32] And I need to jump off a cliff.

[00:12:34] I've never seen it.

[00:12:35] How inauthentic can you possibly be?

[00:12:39] Years and actresses bugged me, whenever like, "I could never date or befriend like a real

[00:12:48] serious actor/actress because I would never trust that their emotion or what they're telling

[00:12:53] me is the thing that they feel."

[00:12:56] And a lot of actors I've seen interviews like Jim Carrey is pretty famous for doing this

[00:13:02] where he's like, "I don't really know, I don't really have like an identity.

[00:13:07] That's why I can take on the identity of whoever I'm playing."

[00:13:09] So if I'm like, people go, "Yeah when you were in the mask and he's like, when I played

[00:13:16] the mask, he won't even identify that he was in it."

[00:13:19] It's like, that's the character that he was, which is I think a little bit, a little bit

[00:13:24] loopy but you have to be when you're kind of, when you're taking those roles and his

[00:13:28] roles weren't, not that he's like a great actor, but he was very physical and he had

[00:13:33] to get into the role, right?

[00:13:34] But there's a lot of people who do that.

[00:13:35] I think Brian Cranston is big on that too, I don't know, there's a lot of people.

[00:13:38] Oh really?

[00:13:39] Yeah and so it's like Willem Defoe I think also, anyway, I'm just seeing a lot of these

[00:13:43] people like pop up recently where they're like, "Yeah, this is just sort of like you

[00:13:47] have to be into the role and so you step away and then who are you?"

[00:13:52] Or you get the other side where actors have a hard time separating the role that they

[00:13:56] were in with their, like they're done, right?

[00:13:59] They're done with a role but they have to somehow separate themselves from that role

[00:14:04] when they go home and there's no more role.

[00:14:06] It's weird.

[00:14:07] Yeah, I mean maybe that's what it takes to be an actor is that you have to have no personality.

[00:14:11] Some of these like well, someone else has to write this for me because I'm just a vacant

[00:14:17] vessel of nothing.

[00:14:19] Yeah.

[00:14:20] Anyway, so we sort of critiqued the interview before we got into the whole thing but so

[00:14:23] she sits down for this variety thing and she's being interviewed by Halle Bailey and boy has

[00:14:30] her tune changed since what we last played here.

[00:14:34] Now, she has nothing but positive things to say about the original 1937 source material

[00:14:39] that won Walt Disney and Honorary Oscar.

[00:14:42] It put feature-length films on the map and set the Walt Disney Company on a trajectory

[00:14:46] to where it is today.

[00:14:48] So I think we can say we all you know, all of this, the fact that we're doing a podcast,

[00:14:53] it all goes back to Snow White.

[00:14:56] Yeah, agreed.

[00:14:58] Well, I want you to just hear Rachel versus Rachel because why not?

[00:15:03] Let's let her do her own.

[00:15:04] I don't need to sit here and spell it out for you.

[00:15:06] Let's let her do it.

[00:15:07] So I've put together a little super cut for you rather than me read off all these things.

[00:15:11] Take a listen to Rachel versus Rachel.

[00:15:14] I mean, you know, the original cartoon came out in 1937 and very evidently so.

[00:15:21] There is a big focus on her love story with a guy who literally stalks her weird when

[00:15:27] it's like a monumental moment in film history.

[00:15:30] Yeah.

[00:15:31] It was like the first feature length cartoon movie to the point where it's one of Honorary

[00:15:37] Oscars and all of these amazing things that happened for that film are the reason that

[00:15:42] you and I really get to sit here today because it made.

[00:15:45] Weird.

[00:15:46] Weird.

[00:15:47] I was scared of the original cartoon.

[00:15:48] I think I watched it once and then I never picked it up again.

[00:15:51] There's just a very dedicated group of people who love Disney cartoons.

[00:15:55] I'm one of them.

[00:15:57] Weird.

[00:15:58] Weird.

[00:15:59] I just mean that it's no longer 1937.

[00:16:01] I love everything that the Disney Company has put out in the past million years, hundred

[00:16:08] years this year.

[00:16:09] And it's called Snow White Scary Adventures.

[00:16:11] It doesn't sound like something a little kid would like, was terrified of it, never

[00:16:16] revisited Snow White again.

[00:16:17] So I watched it for the first time in probably 16, 17 years when I was doing this film.

[00:16:24] We have a different approach to what I'm sure a lot of people will assume is a love story.

[00:16:29] Just all the pictures are out there, little me and my Snow White again.

[00:16:33] That's why I was getting married.

[00:16:35] Weird.

[00:16:36] Weird.

[00:16:37] Yeah, she definitely got some press training, I feel like.

[00:16:39] I bet someone talked to her like, look, here's the history of the movie.

[00:16:45] Get in line, yeah, don't piss off the fans, right?

[00:16:50] Because there is a portion of this where, because they're both talking about how they

[00:16:54] took on classic roles.

[00:16:57] And they're both like, and at one point, Hallie Bailey is kind of mocking Disney fans.

[00:17:03] She's like, you know, they're so into it and like, you know, you have to do it just

[00:17:06] and you, you know, every detail they are concerned with is like, yeah, it's what's called being

[00:17:10] a fan and it's what's going to get people in the seats to watch your crap movie.

[00:17:14] By the way, the little Mermaid remake was absolute hot garbage.

[00:17:17] I watched it.

[00:17:18] Oh, it was terrible.

[00:17:20] Oh, man.

[00:17:22] Visually very bad.

[00:17:23] It's fine voice, but whatever, it wasn't good.

[00:17:26] And I think the way you know that it's not good is when you're watching it and you're

[00:17:30] thinking about, oh, I wonder if I could just switch this out and watch the over like the

[00:17:35] whole time I just wish I was watching the original and that's not always the case with

[00:17:40] these remakes, like, I thought the Cinderella remake was a smash hit.

[00:17:45] I never once thought of the original while I was watching the remake.

[00:17:48] It was so good year and you just want to watch it over and over.

[00:17:51] It was wonderful.

[00:17:52] It was a wonderful retelling.

[00:17:53] I don't know if I saw it.

[00:17:55] I remember liking the Beauty and the Beast one with him a Watson.

[00:17:59] I thought it was basically like a shot for shot, but they still did a good job.

[00:18:03] Yeah, the little mermaid, apparently, is the ninth highest grossing film of 2023, but

[00:18:09] only the seventh highest grossing remake by Disney.

[00:18:12] And I don't know how many remakes they've done.

[00:18:14] I want to say seven.

[00:18:15] I don't think it was really well received.

[00:18:18] It made 569.6 million box office, which is not a Disney film.

[00:18:24] Disney usually does better than that.

[00:18:26] Yeah, that's a little low.

[00:18:28] Yeah, because it probably cost around at least a quarter of a million and make.

[00:18:32] So it just barely squeaked out a profit then.

[00:18:36] Yeah, if anything, I don't know.

[00:18:39] Hopefully Disney is going to stop, but I keep saying this.

[00:18:43] I don't know.

[00:18:44] I was saying this before the Jungle Book remakes, I just were done already with remake stop and

[00:18:49] we've had like four or five more instant.

[00:18:52] So they were, I mean, I listened to this.

[00:18:54] I actually found a transcription service to because I wanted to get through this and see

[00:19:01] like statistically, how does this interview, the sporty minutes of just absolute jipper

[00:19:05] japper shake out?

[00:19:06] Yeah.

[00:19:07] I found that they called them each other graceful five times in that 40 minutes.

[00:19:12] Each one of them.

[00:19:16] There's a lot of superlatives.

[00:19:18] Like you were the best.

[00:19:19] There was one point where they were, she was talking, Rachel Ziegler was talking to

[00:19:22] Haile Bailey about singing and, you know, the, the, how difficult it can be to act and

[00:19:28] sing at the same time.

[00:19:29] And Rachel Ziegler told Haile Bailey, well, I mean, you know probably better than anyone.

[00:19:34] Better than anyone.

[00:19:35] Better than anyone.

[00:19:36] Yeah, barbers.

[00:19:37] She's going to say Barbra Streysen was the first person I was being.

[00:19:41] Absolutely.

[00:19:42] Like how many, how many, like, so many actresses of stage and screen.

[00:19:47] Les Misrells, also, and the one person who knows it better than anyone is Haile Bailey.

[00:19:54] Who I would bet lip synced, you know, I, she wasn't singing live.

[00:20:00] There's no way doing take after take singing live.

[00:20:02] No, absolutely not.

[00:20:03] Well, you've got to listen to this.

[00:20:04] She didn't.

[00:20:05] It was studio work.

[00:20:06] And then she lip synced to it.

[00:20:07] And then in, so Rachel Ziegler does sing and she's in, um, what's the movie that just

[00:20:13] came out?

[00:20:14] Hunger Games.

[00:20:15] She's in the new Hunger Games.

[00:20:16] Oh.

[00:20:17] And they made it into like a musical, I guess.

[00:20:19] Good.

[00:20:20] That's awesome.

[00:20:21] Yeah.

[00:20:22] That's great.

[00:20:23] Yeah.

[00:20:24] And Rachel Ziegler has like, I think eight songs in it.

[00:20:25] So buckle up.

[00:20:26] Oh my God.

[00:20:27] Well, she's very concerned that the fans will still like it, even though there's a lot of singing, but that she, I guess that wasn't studio work that was sung live. They were like, shit, that's a live recording of her doing that. So, which I do think is probably a bit more challenging.

[00:20:44] When they remade Les Mizzes as a movie and they adapted it from a stage show, that was all done live. They're mic'd and they sang it live. And it's pretty cool.

[00:20:55] That's neat. It has a sort of unpolished sound to it, which I actually really liked.

[00:21:00] Yeah. So I just want everyone to know that I spent a grueling, harrowing, 40 minutes listening to these two kiss each other on the rear end.

[00:21:08] Basically, whatever the listeners have spent listening to this, double it. And that's exactly how you feel.

[00:21:14] Yeah. Yeah. That's it. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to be your have, Hallie Bailey, though, when you do your next story.

[00:21:21] God, I can't wait. You're gonna be crying. You're going to be crying. You're gonna be crying.

[00:21:27] You're gonna make me cry. Stop it. Oh, but you're so good.

[00:21:31] Well, you said you mentioned you really go. It should be someone with experience like Jody Foster.

[00:21:35] Yeah. There's no way Jody Foster would do it. She's out there in the press this week saying how annoying she finds Gen Z.

[00:21:41] Did you see that? I read something about that. Yeah.

[00:21:44] Yeah. So I'm sure she'd be like, I'm messing with you.

[00:21:47] I'm not doing that. That's annoying. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:21:50] Jeremy, you're a big of a tech guy. Why don't you like technology?

[00:21:54] I just told, I just got to tell you that I had a YouTube get transcribed so that I could count how many times these two colleagues are graceful.

[00:22:04] I mean, if you know, if that's not techno, the technological wizardry, I don't know what is.

[00:22:08] Well, have you heard about the Apple Vision Pro?

[00:22:12] I know very little about it, but it is on, like when you go on Apple's website right now, it's like the first thing.

[00:22:19] It's just... This is like ski goggles. They look really, really cool, but it's there. It's Apple's foray into virtual reality glasses.

[00:22:28] And recently Apple and Disney announced that the Vision Pro, which I believe will cost like $3,400 on release.

[00:22:36] There's not a lot of people that's going to have this, but subsequent. No, there are. That's the sick thing there.

[00:22:42] Yeah, you're right. Yeah. It's the same people who spend like $50,000 on DVC to go to Disney every year.

[00:22:49] That's true. It's that of whatever that obsession is. This is who's getting it.

[00:22:53] You're right. You're right. And then hopefully subsequent versions will be lower because I do feel like this is what the Oculus and the Quest are trying to be from my understanding of this.

[00:23:04] But they announced that the Vision Pro will have 3D content from Disney Plus at launch, while Disney Plus subscribers will get special animated screening environments to accompany them.

[00:23:14] So Disney is going to be pushing 3D movies through the Vision Pro, and then if you have a Disney Plus subscription,

[00:23:22] you're going to get like a virtual, special virtual theater or virtual environment to watch them in, which is pretty neat.

[00:23:31] So, I've done a little bit of, there's a couple concerts. I have an old Oculus, the Facebook, the Metah Oculus or whatever.

[00:23:39] And I've seen a couple concerts in them before. It's weird. It's cool. It's very, very weird.

[00:23:45] I don't know that I could sit and watch a whole movie, but apparently I'm assuming that the graphics and the technology between what I have and this thing are going to be light years away.

[00:23:56] Light years.

[00:23:57] So, I don't know, that would be pretty exciting. Other apps announced with Vision Pro support include ESPN, MLB, PGA Tour, Max Discovery Plus, Amazon Prime Video, Paramount Plus, Peacock,

[00:24:08] 2B Crunchyroll, Red Bull TV, which I didn't even know was a thing, TikTok. Can you imagine?

[00:24:14] Strap on your Vision Pro goggles and watch just TikToks, just scroll TikToks in virtual reality.

[00:24:20] [laughs]

[00:24:22] The movie, "Wally," was so prophetic in that we're just becoming these zombies that just stare and scroll and don't do anything.

[00:24:32] Yeah. I'm here. You can just tell me. You can just call me my name. I don't need to--

[00:24:38] I'm a proud non-TikTok. I don't have TikTok.

[00:24:41] I love it. Well, we've had this conversation before. I've gotten so much benefit and beneficial information from TikTok.

[00:24:51] I love it. It's a lot of fluff. It's a lot of trash.

[00:24:54] But, yeah, I don't know, got a lot of good stuff out of it. Anyway, the announcement lists some of the movies that will be in 3D, and naturally, Avatar, the way of water is among them.

[00:25:03] But Vision Pro owners will also get 3D versions of movies like Avengers In Game, Star Wars, The Force Awakens, and In Kondo.

[00:25:11] 3D In Kondo. I don't know, maybe. Who cares? Movies will be available to rent through the Apple TV app, and the company says that anyone who has already bought these movies will now also get 3D versions without paying extra.

[00:25:28] Hmm. Yeah, interesting. I've seen some of these 3D work environments before, and I think Apple, the Vision Pro is going to be doing that as well.

[00:25:37] Actually, I saw this one dude. He was working on his car in virtual reality because it's augmented reality. It's not a complete world. The cameras are on, so you see what's going on outside, but there's a heads-up display.

[00:25:50] And so you can see him working on his car, then he turns over, and he looks, he pans, and then he's watching a YouTube video on what he's doing.

[00:26:01] Right. Like, that's fascinating. That kind of stuff is really, really cool. In 20 years, people are walking around with these things on just working.

[00:26:11] Well, you'll have Terminator Vision, or what was it? Short Circuit. Remember that movie from the 80s?

[00:26:17] Oh, they were. They would show you what Johnny 5 saw. He saw everything, but then he would see what temperature it is, and how far away that was.

[00:26:26] How do you remember that? It's amazing. Yes. Yeah, absolutely.

[00:26:31] So that's what's going on. Apple and Disney teaming up, and we talked a little bit about the Metaverse, the things that Disney are doing to push technology, which is sort of a juxtaposition next to what they do in the parks, which is nothing.

[00:26:48] They have all this access to technology and their projection mapping. You know what I mean? We don't even drones over here. We have fireworks still. We have, like, we can't put together nighttime spectacular.

[00:26:59] But so I wonder when this technology is going to come into the parks. It's got to. Augmented reality is going to be in the parks at some point. It has to be, and I bet it would be a partnership with Apple.

[00:27:13] Well, maybe you will. But I don't know, they can't. They just redid this Epcot, and the lights didn't even last for six days.

[00:27:23] They put those pixels over spaceship birth. There's dead pixels in every picture I take of it. It looks ridiculous. So, like, you've got to have not only the ability, but the desire.

[00:27:33] And you've got to be able to be willing to maintain this. I mean, they took out a moving fountain and put in planners because they didn't want to spend the money on the maintenance.

[00:27:42] Right.

[00:27:43] Imagineering was on Twitter this week showcasing some new technology, and it was something like where you walk on the horrid.

[00:27:52] Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that paired with virtual reality is that's pretty big. Yeah. Get it out of your head because they're not doing it.

[00:28:00] They told us we would get a new movie in the China Pavilion, and they had to cancel that. Okay, they're not putting in holatile flooring.

[00:28:09] Like, it's just not happening. They can't. Right. Just because they invented it died after six days. I'm not holding my breath for the hull of floor. Okay.

[00:28:19] Well, that's what I don't understand about, about their desire for the parks, what they want the parks to become because I was talking a bit about last year, year before, about the potential changes to the queue for Haunted Mansion in Disneyland.

[00:28:36] Yeah.

[00:28:37] That got paired back and paired back and paired back, and then we talked to Rowley about it. He was like, yeah, they're doing something with some of my designs at the Haunted Mansion.

[00:28:45] They were like, great. Now we can actually talk about it. And they had to cancel it. It's a budget. They didn't even have 200 grand to give to this.

[00:28:54] And that was like the low budget, 200 grand, 200 feet, grand or whatever it was. I think that's what Rowley was saying. And that's it. They don't have this, but now we have a hollow floor.

[00:29:05] It doesn't make any sense. So what does what what do the parks want to be? Are we going to have money for stuff or are we not that says this is where, and I think we sort of get flack about it because we call we remember this stuff.

[00:29:18] We call Disney out on it, not that word, not like it's the hardest thing in the world to do, but you promise us this and then you take it away, take it away, and then it just goes away altogether, but you give us something else.

[00:29:27] It's just weird, uncomfortable. I don't like it.

[00:29:30] Yeah, I mean, I do think like it's, I guess it's Admiral the Imagineering is still working on things. It's just that the people who are in the parks aren't buying it.

[00:29:41] They're operating very siloed. And what I'm hearing is that like a lot of Imagineers who are leaving the company are leaving because they're like, well, nothing's getting approved.

[00:29:51] Jeff DiFali, the president of Walt Disney World, passes on every single thing we bring to it. So like at a certain point, if you're a creative person, yeah, you have to understand if you're working for Disney.

[00:30:01] Not everything's going to get greenlit.

[00:30:03] But something should, and then some of at least the things that you say were greenlit don't then cancel.

[00:30:11] So it's not even like they canceled a bunch of stuff. So how is the new stuff going to get greenlit if the stuff that was already was getting greenlit is canceled?

[00:30:18] I guess, and that's what I mean about what they want the parks to be, and I don't know why we're talking about it, but it's fun.

[00:30:23] They want them to be festival centers where they sell overpriced bites of food and pack people in.

[00:30:31] There's no overhead to it except for the cost of the food.

[00:30:34] They want you in drinking and get out. And then maybe you'll wait on a virtual queue. But while you're on the virtual queue, you're going to go drink in UK pavilion and then you can ride our stupid roller coaster that has screams.

[00:30:47] Well, that's what our friend Kyle was saying a long time ago when he talked about FastPass and why it was implemented and why it will never really go away and obviously it did, but it's a different version.

[00:30:57] It's because it gets you out and gets you spending money. And that is literally why. That's why it's there. It's not to reduce the lines.

[00:31:04] It's not to be nice to guests. It's not to give you a chance to ride more rides. It's literally not.

[00:31:10] It's to get you out walking around to spend money.

[00:31:13] Right. And now they're charging you for the opportunity to get out there and walk around and spend money.

[00:31:18] Yeah. So that's what I guess what I mean about what they want the parks to be, right? Is it what kind of experiences do we want? Are we putting this investment into rides and into attractions or putting in planters?

[00:31:28] And so it's almost like they're beautifying the area doing the bare minimum, but they're saving that money. They're saving that budget for something.

[00:31:36] And I don't know if it's part of like Iger's cost burn, where he's like really trying to reign in everything, but they have to look like they're doing something so they put planters in instead.

[00:31:45] Or they just don't have ideas or what, but it comes across like they don't know what to really do anymore.

[00:31:51] I've always felt that the company has no strategy. I mean, if it was a company that had a strategy, frozen wouldn't have shocked them.

[00:32:00] And they wouldn't have had to scramble and be like, I don't know, ruin Norway. Put it, if this is a company that had some sort of strategy that said, okay, we're going to project Gemini.

[00:32:10] We're going to expand Epcot. How long have we been hearing about Disneyland forward? And then it goes away and now it's back again.

[00:32:16] And like, there's all they just, there's no, it just seems very reactionary.

[00:32:20] Like, oh, frozen was really popular. Quick, throw it into World Showcase. All of these things that they do are just very reactionary, and there doesn't seem to be a long-term strategy.

[00:32:30] Throw Avatar into Animal Kingdom. Now throw Indiana Jones into Animal Kingdom. How does any of this work together in an animal theme park?

[00:32:38] So it's just like, but that could make money, so do it. And then now these parks are just all mishmash. And I don't get what the strategy is, there's no guiding vision.

[00:32:49] That's the biggest complaint I have about Tiana going into Northern Square. Replace Flash Mountain, don't care.

[00:32:55] But replacing the French market and replacing the Le Baphon Rouge with the mom's market or whatever. Talk about it in the last show.

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[00:34:09] Oh, that's right, everybody. Thanks for hanging around.

[00:34:13] Alright, Jerry, what do you got, buddy?

[00:34:15] They gave a bad name to Disney adults because when Epcot moved their favorite trash can, they took it as an insult.

[00:34:23] I...we have been sitting on this story since...I think since Christmas.

[00:34:29] Yeah, it's December for sure.

[00:34:31] Yeah, and I'm very excited to finally talk about it.

[00:34:35] Well, don't sit the bar too high.

[00:34:39] -With this show? -Impossible.

[00:34:42] Yeah, the Disney Day Drinkers Club.

[00:34:46] Okay, so people who have a ticket, yeah?

[00:34:50] Yeah.

[00:34:51] Okay, this is a real thing.

[00:34:53] They call themselves Club D3, kind of like Club 33, Club D3, Disney Day Drinkers.

[00:34:59] You get it.

[00:35:00] Love it. Yeah, I love it.

[00:35:01] That's according to their website because, yes, they have a website.

[00:35:04] Well, they're free, you don't want to...

[00:35:06] It's a group of Disney fans who like to meet up at the parks pretty regularly and get drunk as you might have guessed.

[00:35:13] Apparently, these people have adopted one of the trash cans outside of the Rosencrown Pub in the UK section of Epcot's World Showcase as their mascot,

[00:35:23] and they've named him "Benny."

[00:35:25] Doesn't mean a little bit more on that later.

[00:35:27] Yeah, this seems like something that the fun one said.

[00:35:31] Like, "Oh, we lean on this all the time."

[00:35:33] He's our mascot, and like total mom joke, and then someone, and then they just took it too far for five years, and then they're like,

[00:35:40] "Oh, it's our mascot! Here he is!"

[00:35:42] Yeah, that's pretty...

[00:35:44] I mean, you basically just hope the story.

[00:35:46] That's pretty much what happened.

[00:35:48] They have them.

[00:35:49] Essentially, because everyone knows at Epcot, there's like not enough places to stand around and have a drink.

[00:35:55] There's not enough high-top tables during these festivals.

[00:35:58] Right.

[00:35:59] And so I guess at one point, they were standing around, they were always at this one garbage can,

[00:36:04] it's right at the front of that pub, and they said, "Hey, this is our new mascot."

[00:36:11] And one of the Disney Day drinkers, as it turns out, is a member of the clergy, maybe a priest,

[00:36:18] and he baptized, or whatever you do to name something, to make it something official in the church,

[00:36:26] did that, I guess, to this trash can to make it, quote-unquote, "official," that its name is Benny,

[00:36:33] and it's their mascot.

[00:36:34] He's sort of...

[00:36:35] I mean, it's a joke, but he is a member of the clergy, which I also think is interesting.

[00:36:41] Would God allow that?

[00:36:43] I don't know.

[00:36:44] You're even remarkizing an object.

[00:36:47] You're...

[00:36:48] You know what I mean?

[00:36:49] Seems weird.

[00:36:50] Oh, I just thought, "Did God let you go to Epcot and drink around the world?"

[00:36:52] Of course it's a clergy, you know, God demands it.

[00:36:57] So, they meet up at predetermined times and they drink.

[00:37:01] Actually, it seems, I went to their website today, it seems they even do a Disney cruise.

[00:37:05] You can find their website at clubd3.com.

[00:37:08] They also boast a subgroup of Disney runners, so they do run Disney, and get this, they drink

[00:37:15] shots of fireballs during the marathon.

[00:37:18] You know what?

[00:37:23] It's funny, their logo is the old clubd3 logo, but it's D3, like you said, instead of 33.

[00:37:27] I mean, I don't want to rip on them too much.

[00:37:30] They're having fun.

[00:37:31] That's right.

[00:37:32] They're just a bunch of people.

[00:37:33] They're having a good time.

[00:37:34] It's like, I don't want to be.

[00:37:35] But I do feel like it's not that cool that you do...

[00:37:37] Like, there's no fireballs, no...

[00:37:39] And then also, it doesn't...

[00:37:41] It's not so crazy and zamy that you do shots of it during the marathon.

[00:37:45] Jeremy, they have an ad on everybody.

[00:37:47] They have their own app.

[00:37:49] Spectral radio doesn't even have an app.

[00:37:51] No, that you don't, which bothers me greatly.

[00:37:55] Yeah, look, yeah, I definitely don't want to trash them because I like when people get

[00:38:02] together and they hang out and they have a little fun and it seems like they poke fun

[00:38:06] at themselves, which is cute.

[00:38:08] But the trash can...

[00:38:10] Maybe this is a good example of the media sort of like introducing us to a thing that

[00:38:16] we weren't ready for.

[00:38:18] And so we had preconceived notions about it.

[00:38:21] But why don't you tell me about that?

[00:38:23] Well, so anyway, as I was saying, they have subgroups.

[00:38:25] They did the Rundas, new people.

[00:38:27] They have a singles page for their single members.

[00:38:29] So they get together.

[00:38:30] They do say, I went on their website.

[00:38:32] They're like, you know, we're a positive group of people.

[00:38:33] This is all for fun.

[00:38:34] Like, you know, it's not, you know, we're not trying to bother anybody.

[00:38:38] But they have merchandise.

[00:38:39] You can buy stuff with their t-shirt on it.

[00:38:41] This is from their website.

[00:38:42] As most people know, it's hard to find a table.

[00:38:44] Oh, this is basically what the story of the bin.

[00:38:48] So I won't read it because I already went through that.

[00:38:50] Okay.

[00:38:51] Well, always well with the Disney J. drinkers, it seems, until September when Epcot moved

[00:38:58] their favorite trash can across the World Showcase promenade to the other side.

[00:39:09] I thought it was good to just like shift it at two feet or like across the walkway, but

[00:39:15] they just went to the other side of the thing.

[00:39:17] No.

[00:39:18] Across the walkway.

[00:39:19] Across the walk.

[00:39:20] Okay.

[00:39:21] I don't even look the other side of the park.

[00:39:22] It's funny to me.

[00:39:23] They moved it from this side of the UK Pavilion across the road to in front of the sportsman

[00:39:28] shop, which is across from the across.

[00:39:30] Oh, my God, and see.

[00:39:31] Okay.

[00:39:32] And now get this.

[00:39:34] They have 86,000 members of their Facebook.

[00:39:37] Stop it.

[00:39:38] Yeah, this is another reason why I don't want to trash talk them.

[00:39:40] I don't need 86,000 drunk people chasing me around, okay.

[00:39:44] It's like the Beatles help, but it's just Jeremy and it's just called.

[00:39:49] Oh, sure.

[00:39:50] I'm sorry.

[00:39:51] I'm sorry.

[00:39:52] I'm just laughing.

[00:39:53] Fireball is totally cool.

[00:39:54] You keep doing it during the marathon.

[00:39:57] So their Facebook of these 86,000 people like sort of lost their mind when Disney moved

[00:40:02] their trash can out of the way.

[00:40:03] Oh, my goodness.

[00:40:05] And they were flummox because apart from its location directly in front of the Rosen

[00:40:09] Crown, Vinny is completely indistinguishable from any other trash can in the park.

[00:40:14] It's just another brown trash can.

[00:40:16] They only know that it's this one because it's there.

[00:40:19] And the thing is is that they have this tradition of when they get all get together, they take

[00:40:24] everybody takes a picture with it and then even people warm members of the group.

[00:40:28] If it's not like kind of an officially sanctioned day, but if you're a Disney day drinker and

[00:40:31] you happen to be an Epcot, they go and they take a picture in front of Vinny and they

[00:40:34] post it in the Facebook group.

[00:40:35] So people are constantly taking pictures in front of this thing.

[00:40:38] But also on their website, there are pictures.

[00:40:40] There are group photos where it looks like just 50 to 100 people in front of the Rosen

[00:40:44] Crown taking a picture around this trash can.

[00:40:48] And so a Disney spokesperson said they had to move it because it was there was so many

[00:40:55] and so many people taking pictures in front of this that it was actually blocking entrance to the Rosencrown pub, which is a safety issue. People couldn't aggress egress out of a pot. I think it's 50 people to get picture outside constantly. So their love of this trash can got it moved. Yes. Wow. They only themselves to blame it seems. Skip share. The club's founder said moving the bin was a big deal because Disney's super fans attention to detail.

[00:41:26] I guess one person's attention to detail is another man's psychotic behavior. I don't know. There's another man's fire hazard. People were just going crazy saying, oh my god, why would they do this?

[00:41:38] It's something you had a part of at the very beginning then someone takes it away. Then after a few months, the trash can was inexplicably returned to its location. Much to the joy.

[00:41:55] Of the members of the Disney day drinkers. Sure. One person said, I know it's just a trash can, but I have to say my heart leapt for joy at this photo when they saw that the trash can had been moved back.

[00:42:07] So check this out. Now they find out that their trash can is back where it's supposed to be. Club members start buying airline tickets to Orlando to get a picture with this trash can now that it's back.

[00:42:24] Okay. So now they're all booking flights. Disney does them dirty and moves the trash can now.

[00:42:33] So these people are sinking money and airline tickets left and right and then Disney is like moves it and it hasn't been pulled back.

[00:42:44] I was there last week and I'm like, let's see if that trash can now you're looking for.

[00:42:50] I couldn't find it. I was just the slumoxed as them.

[00:42:54] We should start. We should start a club. But anthropomorphize the trash can where it is now and then that way, if it ever gets moved, we go.

[00:43:03] Why would they do this to us? What would be the Disney night drinkers? I mean, you and three. Here's the thing.

[00:43:11] Yeah, I lost my turn. I don't know. No, here's the thing. Get off life. It's a trash can.

[00:43:18] Like, I don't know. Just have another one be it. Who cares? It doesn't have to actually be that trash can.

[00:43:23] Here's the thing. You cannot tell me and maybe that maybe there is a way to know and I don't know it.

[00:43:30] You can't tell me that that's the same exact trash can put back in the same spot every time.

[00:43:35] It can't be. I mean, you know, those things get painted. They get taken away for cleaning or whatever.

[00:43:40] Right. And they get five or six or eight or 10 in the area at a time, spray them down, paint them and they put them back.

[00:43:46] It's not the same trash can. It cannot be exactly. They move it to sweep. Everything's like, yeah, like it's not.

[00:43:53] You're absolutely right. It could not have been the same exact trash can. So they've already been bamboozled, but you just thought it was the same one.

[00:44:02] So anyway, this is what's happening. I don't know. I think that annoyed me about it is.

[00:44:09] Yeah, I find it particularly grading when I see groups of people walk around world showcase in like a drink, drink, drunk, sure, or they take the Walt Disney logo and they change.

[00:44:21] They use the font, but they change it to malt whiskey. Yeah. Like, oh, you're cool. It's just not cool. It's also been done to death.

[00:44:28] Like, this was this was maybe novel in 2007, but it's 2024 and it's just not neat anymore. We all get it.

[00:44:37] And I also just as someone who drinks quite a bit. I just don't see the coolness of being like, we drink at Epcot.

[00:44:45] Like, yes, so does everybody. It's just this is what happens there. And you're making a comment.

[00:44:49] So I just kind of. I think that like they seem like they're a nice group of people, whatever, whatever I just I find it annoying to see a group of 50 people taking a picture around a trash can.

[00:44:58] Like, we're all just trying to. Can I just get in here? I want to get a beer.

[00:45:02] There is something performative about going to the parks in a large group of people.

[00:45:08] Mm hmm. And I don't know what that is, where it's like you're in your own private little club, your own private group, and you want to sort of show off how many people you have or like that.

[00:45:20] It's really cool that all your friends are in this really cool place.

[00:45:25] You know, I don't know trash can mascot. Okay, that's fine. I will admit, I didn't read any of the articles because I knew you're going to talk about it.

[00:45:32] And like the article that I saw the headline of just seemed, it made these people seem like just irrational.

[00:45:39] But hearing about it, looking at their website, they just seem like a fun, loving group of people and, you know, whatever, I can't imagine they were like that distressed about it because when you're online on the internet, you're like, Oh, I, I'm so great.

[00:45:55] It's so useful and you don't really mean it. You know what I mean? You're just like, okay.

[00:45:59] And it seems like they do a lot of stuff. So you, you can be a member of this of these of this group and they have like virtual mixology classes and they have holiday parties and stuff like that.

[00:46:10] Like they actually, they actually do stuff, which I think is pretty neat.

[00:46:14] That is cool. I do think it's cool that they sort of take it beyond that.

[00:46:17] I don't know, whatever to whatever you want, you guys. I don't know. I do think, like you said, like, Oh, it seemed like maybe they were a bit more irrational.

[00:46:25] On the web. I don't know. I do think there's something irrational about booking a ticket to Orlando because a trash can got moved.

[00:46:32] That is that is. I will say that is worse than being freaked out about the trash can in the first place.

[00:46:39] Like, and maybe it's just me who has like, doesn't have a job and like is desperately looking for a job.

[00:46:46] And it's like, I wish that I could have money to just, Oh man, my, you know, the little man of Disneyland is put, I'm going to fly.

[00:46:55] I'm going to go down there and check it out or whatever. I don't know what it is, you know.

[00:46:59] Yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe I'm jealous.

[00:47:01] I don't know. Maybe. I wish I had joy in my life.

[00:47:06] I've definitely flown to Disney for important occasions, like the last illuminations.

[00:47:12] Yeah, I was there for that. I mean, t-shirts for, but I don't think that's the same as a trash can getting moved from one side of the pathway to these.

[00:47:21] You know what? Can we, I'm sure somewhere in an alternate reality, an alternate branch of your timeline, Jeremy?

[00:47:30] Yeah. You are. There's a version of you that is just annoyed as, just as annoyed as at harmonious as you are at like,

[00:47:39] you know, a stanch and being mislocated or, you know, I don't know. Something like that. I think it's in you.

[00:47:45] I think with a little more training, you could be irritated and much, much more than you are now.

[00:47:51] Yeah, it could be. Don't sell yourself short. It could be. Well, Disney trade drinkers, I want you guys to keep having fun.

[00:47:57] No hard feelings. I do think you might want to just calm down a little.

[00:48:00] I wonder, so they have 86,000 people. I wonder how many of those people were like guys.

[00:48:07] It's 10 feet that way. It's fine. Everybody relaxed.

[00:48:11] Because I will say that, you know, a lot of times in the media, they will take the most sensational comment and that's and then make it the voice of whatever's going on.

[00:48:19] So I wonder how many of those people were like, this is Katie Deborah. Please relax a little bit.

[00:48:25] OK. It's just a trash can and they're like, I know, but it's fun.

[00:48:29] You know, you know what these people sound like from the from the quotes?

[00:48:33] It sound like you want to know who this is, but, um, on Bob's Burgers, the mom on Bob's Burgers, Linda. Linda Belcha.

[00:48:39] Linda Belcha.

[00:48:41] I don't watch that show, but I know that that's John Roberts.

[00:48:44] And he is the one who does, uh, I post his video every Christmas because he's like, come on.

[00:48:49] Look at the tray. Come on. We're going to get the train.

[00:48:52] It's a great show. He's from Jersey. Oh, yeah. It sounds like it.

[00:48:56] All right. Well, speaking of, um, I'm going to try to speak of speaking of good things that have been moved around a little bit.

[00:49:03] Jeremy X Disney chief Bob Chape.

[00:49:06] Yes. Appointed to board of medical firm, Massimo as company battles Apple.

[00:49:14] Oh, yeah. Bob Jay Peck, a nearly three decade Disney veteran who was ousted in 2022.

[00:49:21] Has been appointed to the board of directors of medical tech firm Massimo.

[00:49:25] The move comes during a dramatic series of events involving Massimo and Apple.

[00:49:30] Tech giant has been in a patent dispute with the firm over a blood oxygen tool

[00:49:35] featured in the company's latest line of smartwatches.

[00:49:37] After the international trade commission ruled that the feature infringed on Massimo's patent

[00:49:43] Apple pulled the current edition of the watches off the market.

[00:49:46] Multiple media outlets reported Monday that the feature is being taken off the

[00:49:50] watches in subsequent editions. Wow. Look at that.

[00:49:53] Apple kind of has a tendency to do that, don't they?

[00:49:56] Yeah. This is the first time I've seen where they've had to, like, stop selling

[00:49:59] something though. And I didn't know that it was that I didn't know that the person

[00:50:03] who was pulling the strings on this was actually, well, I guess it is now

[00:50:08] since the turmoil surrounding his Egg is from Disney.

[00:50:11] Che Pek has kept a fairly low profile quote, I am thrilled to join the Massimo

[00:50:15] board the exact set in a press release.

[00:50:17] I look forward to helping advance the company's growth by leveraging their core

[00:50:21] technologies in the consumer and consumer health spaces.

[00:50:23] Joe Keony chairman and CEO of Massimo said, we are honored to have Bob join the board.

[00:50:29] As we execute our hospital to home strategy, we expect to benefit greatly from Bob's

[00:50:33] role on our board. First of all, I don't like that phrase hospital to home.

[00:50:37] It makes it sound like you come into the hospital.

[00:50:39] We're going to, we're going to send you home, but you're going to be monitored

[00:50:42] and it's not going to be great. Like you're not fully checked out.

[00:50:45] It's just, there's no room in the hospital.

[00:50:47] So you have to be monitored at home. I don't like that and it makes me freak out.

[00:50:49] I don't know. Yeah. Is that what that, what does hospital to home meet?

[00:50:53] I would imagine it's like the same coverage you get at the hospital.

[00:50:58] You can get at home.

[00:50:59] It seems like this company does little medical devices, like home

[00:51:02] swimmer kind of things.

[00:51:03] Well, it probably just goes hand in hand, but telehealth and all of that.

[00:51:07] Yeah. But I wonder why the, so I've been seeing other articles around around

[00:51:16] this nomination of Chapek that it's like battling Disney or some like Disney tie

[00:51:21] in, but I can never figure it out. I don't know why.

[00:51:24] Maybe it's not there, but Chapek is back. He's back, baby.

[00:51:28] He's taking a break. He's back. And I got, I want to interview him.

[00:51:32] I want to, I want to talk to this guy so badly.

[00:51:35] What are you going to say? You know, probably nothing.

[00:51:38] I probably just look at him.

[00:51:41] This is a marvel at him. He looks like a, just like a walrus walking around.

[00:51:46] I don't know. He looks what I want to say.

[00:51:48] You're not getting an interview with this kind of, uh, he's going to give me a

[00:51:52] walrus. He wants me to come out there in a good way.

[00:51:54] You think he listened to the show? You think he listens to podcast?

[00:51:58] No, but if you were to, to reach out to him, he would probably listen to something

[00:52:03] or have some, I've had someone who works with him scan and listen to us.

[00:52:06] And then they'd find the word walrus when they transcribe the YouTube video.

[00:52:11] And it might, uh, I would, I would raise a red flag.

[00:52:15] I would talk to him about his vision for the company.

[00:52:19] Had he been left to his own devices.

[00:52:22] I would love to know what he had in plan.

[00:52:24] And then I would also want to know what his decisions were his that were, uh,

[00:52:28] that were made versus what he sort of inherited.

[00:52:32] That's what the big fascination to me is the timeline between green light,

[00:52:37] or between idea and green light and green light and execution during a turnover.

[00:52:41] What, where does that, where does that, you know, come into play?

[00:52:44] Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it would be interesting to hear that because there's a lot of

[00:52:49] stuff and that's the stuff that we debate, right?

[00:52:51] Like, Oh, thanks, cheap act. Thanks, Iger. Who was it? You know?

[00:52:54] Um, I certainly think that it wasn't as, he wasn't as bad as he, as he was made

[00:53:00] out to seem. In fact, um, he, you know,

[00:53:04] it wasn't until Iger came back that all those layoffs happened.

[00:53:07] I think, I think Che Pec was working as hard as he could to keep everybody employed.

[00:53:11] And then it was Iger who came back and was like, we got to make cuts.

[00:53:15] They're right.

[00:53:16] There was a rumor that Che Pec was going to cut.

[00:53:18] I want to say three or 4,000 people.

[00:53:21] And then he got removed and then Iger came in and hit eight.

[00:53:25] He just decided that whatever Che Pec was going to do wasn't enough.

[00:53:29] So I agree with you.

[00:53:31] I think he recognized that cuts needed to be made or at least that was the rumor.

[00:53:35] And then, and I remember when Che Pec was out and Iger came back and everyone was

[00:53:40] like, oh, our jobs are safe. Yeah. No, no, they're not.

[00:53:44] In fact, more of you are leaving than ever before.

[00:53:47] And he made, Oh, by the way, in our year in review show,

[00:53:51] I said that Iger made $27 million last year.

[00:53:55] He didn't. He made $31.6 million.

[00:54:00] I noticed that you're eating eight thousand people from the workforce.

[00:54:04] And withholding fair pay to 9,000 women

[00:54:08] at the company is a good, good, good man.

[00:54:12] They all love him.

[00:54:13] I got a couple of little anymore.

[00:54:15] Yeah. Right.

[00:54:16] I got a couple of quick news stories here real fast.

[00:54:18] And then we'll get out of it because you're done, right?

[00:54:19] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:54:21] Jeremy, you have probably never seen this movie,

[00:54:24] but characters from the Pixar movie Turning Red is set to our set to debut

[00:54:29] at Disney California Adventure Park.

[00:54:32] Yeah, I haven't seen that movie, but I did see this piece of news today.

[00:54:36] It's not very, the movie's fine.

[00:54:38] It was cute. It's fine.

[00:54:40] It didn't do well.

[00:54:41] And I think it did okay for what it was.

[00:54:44] It was okay. It was a fine movie. It was fine.

[00:54:46] Fans of Disney and Pixar's Turning Red movie were able to meet characters

[00:54:50] from the animated feature during the resort's Lunar New Year festivities,

[00:54:54] which run January 23rd to February 18th.

[00:54:57] Mae Lyn Lee and her mother, Ming Lee, will appear at Disney California Adventure Park

[00:55:02] during the New Year celebration.

[00:55:05] And, you know, there's a little picture of it.

[00:55:07] It's a very, very small, looks like a 10 by 20 booth at a convention.

[00:55:12] Yeah. So if you're into that movie, you want to meet and greet with

[00:55:15] characters who are never in the parks, that's kind of cool, too.

[00:55:18] Yeah, a friend of mine messaged me today with a screenshot of this

[00:55:22] from the Disney Parks blog.

[00:55:24] She was like, yeah, I thought this was pretty cool.

[00:55:25] But she's like, then you get to the last sentence,

[00:55:28] and it's like park reservations requiring all this, just.

[00:55:31] Annoying red tape around it.

[00:55:35] And she was like, it just really puts a dam from everything.

[00:55:37] It's like, oh, that's cool. Yeah. I forgot all the crap I have to go through to

[00:55:41] Turning Red more like cutting through red tape.

[00:55:44] Right. Yes.

[00:55:46] Wow. This was a

[00:55:47] a headline from that I pulled from inside the magic.

[00:55:52] And I was like, Oh, what is what is going on?

[00:55:54] So I did a little more research behind it.

[00:55:56] Didn't give him a click, of course.

[00:55:57] And this is the result I got rated or springs racers will be closed for

[00:56:02] nearly a week for standard refurbishment set to close on Monday, February 26th

[00:56:07] and reopen on Saturday, March 2nd, according inside the magic.

[00:56:11] One of their one of the biggest Disney rides or whatever is close

[00:56:16] for an undetermined amount of time suddenly closed.

[00:56:19] It's like, what are you talking about?

[00:56:21] Like it's not it's not unknown.

[00:56:24] It's literally scheduled.

[00:56:25] It's scheduled maintenance that happens all the time.

[00:56:28] And there's a friggin window for it, dude.

[00:56:31] But I got to just clickies in.

[00:56:34] I it occurred to me today that if you like, if you only got your news

[00:56:39] from inside the magic, you would think that it's constantly calamity

[00:56:44] and World War three at Disney World all the time because it's always like

[00:56:49] even one of the one thing I said today was like Disney Park closes due to

[00:56:52] freakish cold weather.

[00:56:54] And it's like, yeah, they always close one of the water parks, dude,

[00:56:59] gets a little chilly out like it's, but you the way they write about stuff,

[00:57:03] you would think that the whole place is like falling into the pits of hell.

[00:57:07] Like every day.

[00:57:08] I saw one article where it was like one headline when it was like,

[00:57:12] you know, like Disneyland Castle being removed in pieces.

[00:57:19] You know, totally destroyed.

[00:57:21] And it's like, I guess a piece broke off in Paris because they're having like bad weather.

[00:57:25] You guys are literally ruining.

[00:57:30] Yeah, you would have such you would, you know, think about all these people

[00:57:34] who are like conspiracy theorists who like who can't determine what fake is

[00:57:39] from reality or they get their new source from like one or two places.

[00:57:44] And then that's it.

[00:57:45] And you cannot convince them that that might be incorrect at all.

[00:57:49] These people would just, their minds are got to be in just this turmoil

[00:57:55] constantly concerned and stressed.

[00:57:59] Especially if you're a big Disney fan and you already have that

[00:58:02] proclivity to sort of be questioning or being unsure or like, you know,

[00:58:06] being a maximum, maybe a flair for the dramatic, I have a little anxiety.

[00:58:09] You would be off your rocker reading this.

[00:58:12] Yeah, it's insane.

[00:58:14] There was like a transition period where I sort of like once in a while,

[00:58:17] I would click on one of them because I'm like, well, what could this be?

[00:58:20] And any of those times that you did fall for it or like, well, maybe

[00:58:24] this one, you know, let's see what they are talking about.

[00:58:27] And you, and then you immediately regret it.

[00:58:29] You're like, Oh, they've got me a gun.

[00:58:31] It was never a time when one of those headlines really resonated.

[00:58:35] And I was like, well, I'm glad I clicked that.

[00:58:37] It's.

[00:58:38] And now I just refuse.

[00:58:40] I'm like, I'm not going to fall for it.

[00:58:41] I have the willpower not to do it.

[00:58:43] Not clicking on an ITM article is the same thing as giving up smoking.

[00:58:47] Because there were times like when I, I used to smoke when I drank a lot.

[00:58:52] And so same, by the way.

[00:58:54] Yes.

[00:58:54] Yeah, I would love a cigarette and a beer and then I stopped and like I first,

[00:59:01] I waned myself a little bit and then I, and then now I haven't had one in like

[00:59:04] five and a half years.

[00:59:06] And I there was those times where you're like, well, maybe I will have one

[00:59:10] because it's not so bad and I really enjoy it with a, with a beer and like

[00:59:14] that'll be fine.

[00:59:14] But then, and you're like, I won't feel the guilt and like I won't feel dirty

[00:59:18] and discussing the next morning, like, you know, but you always do.

[00:59:21] And so now I know, like now I am able to not have a cigarette because I do

[00:59:27] know that it will make me feel terrible and I am able to not click on an ITM

[00:59:31] article because I do know that it will make me feel terrible.

[00:59:34] It's the exact same mental experience.

[00:59:38] Not reading their articles as smoking.

[00:59:40] You know what it is.

[00:59:42] It's the same thing mentally as texting your ex X.

[00:59:48] What are you doing at two in the morning?

[00:59:50] That's what it is.

[00:59:52] Really like I, I, I can't help.

[00:59:55] I can't help it.

[00:59:56] I have to do this and as soon as you do it, like, no, why did I do that?

[01:00:00] No, yeah.

[01:00:01] You, you chalk yourself.

[01:00:03] No, you reason it.

[01:00:04] There might be something good that could come of it this time, but it won't.

[01:00:07] I need to have needs that need fulfilling.

[01:00:09] Right.

[01:00:10] And this is the only person that can help me out.

[01:00:12] But the next morning is the guilt and all you just can't do it.

[01:00:16] Don't do it.

[01:00:16] I had.

[01:00:20] Oh, they're doing was.

[01:00:22] I don't know.

[01:00:23] They ruined us.

[01:00:24] All right.

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