EarzUp! In-Depth | Episode #92: Iger Needs Help, Disney World Has A Code H Problem, and More!

[00:00:00] Hey whats going on everybody, EarzUp Podcast in depth live.. on this Tuesday

[00:00:11] November 7th which is the greatest day in your life Jeremy because it is also my 46th birthday

[00:00:18] today.

[00:00:19] Oh today is your 40th.. oh yes it's November 7th.

[00:00:23] Yeah. So having birthday to me, did you really want to record today?

[00:00:27] No. Oh, you could have said no. It's fine. I mean, what

[00:00:30] else am I doing? You know, it's either I'm going to do what I did last night is

[00:00:33] fall asleep on the couch watching the one of the worst found footage horror movies

[00:00:37] in the entire universe or do the show. It's just it, you know, to me,

[00:00:42] at this point in my life, it's either work or fall asleep on the couch.

[00:00:47] Okay. Well, I feel honored that you would celebrate your birthday. Of course.

[00:00:50] I'm a Disney news with me. Of course, well, where else would I be? You know,

[00:00:55] upstairs in my family. I mean, come on now. I had enough of them at dinner. It's fine.

[00:00:59] Exactly.

[00:01:01] Right. Well, happy birthday. 46. Well, thanks. Yeah. 46, man. And man,

[00:01:06] I did a whole bunch of stuff today. I had therapy today. Uh-huh.

[00:01:10] And and I have this show. So I've worked on myself. Now I'm working for the man.

[00:01:15] Right. Yeah. Yeah. 46, man. It's weird. It's weird. It's weird. Time.

[00:01:20] I feel older was turning 46. A topic of the therapy. It would be for me.

[00:01:27] It wasn't, uh, I mean, it was in, in the sense of like there's certain things I am working on

[00:01:32] where it's like, it all relates to like childhood trauma or whatever, but it's very much

[00:01:37] like I feel uncomfortable accepting. I like attention. I want attention, right?

[00:01:41] Which is why you know, entertain, I guess, or do podcasts or whatever,

[00:01:46] but I don't like individual attention. I don't like one on one attention.

[00:01:50] I don't like opening gifts in front of people that they give me. I don't like that.

[00:01:54] So like, Taren and Alice got me a couple nice things from my birthday.

[00:01:58] And I didn't, I, I'm a 46 year old man. I can't look at them in the eye while I open their gift.

[00:02:03] I can't look at them. I would rather not, I would rather open gift by myself.

[00:02:08] Well, you could arrange that. It's your birthday. It could be like, I'll be in here.

[00:02:11] Good. Yeah. But like, you know, I'm not going to do that.

[00:02:13] So it's just one of those things. Like, that's the kind of stuff that I'm trying to process

[00:02:17] through and like, why that is? So you're like, therapists. Listen. Yeah.

[00:02:21] I can't look at anybody when I'm opening up these presents and they hate it.

[00:02:25] Yeah. And like Christmas, I go, you guys open, you keep going, you do the thing.

[00:02:28] And then I'll have like eight gifts in a row. And it's like, this is very counter to what I'm

[00:02:32] trying to do. It's just avoid being looked at or cared for, I guess. It's a whole thing.

[00:02:38] Well, you should open your on Christmas. You should open yours during the,

[00:02:42] the present opening free for all. And that way when everyone comes up for air from opening

[00:02:47] their gifts, you're done too. Yeah. Well, we don't really do. Yeah. We just kind of go in,

[00:02:52] in turns. Oh. Yeah. I know. Yeah. But I also like that because then you get to see what other,

[00:02:58] internally us, so you get the reaction. Yeah. Anyway, whatever. Who cares? Right.

[00:03:03] Getting older is weird. The more you do it, the more you realize that you should have gotten

[00:03:06] older sooner because you, you learn more about yourself. You know what I mean? Like if I knew in my

[00:03:11] 40s, what I knew in my 20s or vice versa, it would have been a whole different, whole different,

[00:03:17] you know, life, I guess. It's weird. Things like that are weird to me. Yeah. But you know,

[00:03:23] it's not weird. The slate of Disney news. We have a spate spate of Disney news. We have a ton of

[00:03:27] Disney news to get through some good stuff too. I'm excited about it again. It feels like there's

[00:03:33] not a whole, there was a while there were like nothing was happening. But now there's a ton

[00:03:39] flowing, if you will. And I can't wait to get into a journey because I know you have a couple good

[00:03:44] ones. I have a few good ones too. And you know, we're going to get through it together like we

[00:03:48] always do. Yeah. Well, I don't know what I touched. I told you what my stories are, but I don't

[00:03:52] know what yours are. This is going to be a surprise to me. Well, yeah. I mean, look, it's my

[00:03:59] birthday. What do you want? You get to do whatever you want. You get to hide all of your stories

[00:04:05] for me and your birthday. That's the rule over here. How many it's my birthday every time we

[00:04:10] record, then how? How many do you have to two? All right. Let me start with one. Okay. It's a Bob

[00:04:17] Iger one, which I'm always going to try to pick out the Bob Iger stories because that's what I like

[00:04:20] to do. I enjoy doing that. Yes. Because this man, that's all I've to say. See up to this is

[00:04:27] from ABC News. And it's something we've heard about before I suppose I'm sure this will be

[00:04:33] perfectly unbiased. Look at him given that ABC news. Absolutely. Yeah. Disney to acquire the

[00:04:41] remainder of Hulu from Comcast for roughly $8.6 billion. While Disney said it will acquire a 33%

[00:04:50] stake in Hulu from Comcast for at least 8.6 billion. A deal that will give Disney full control

[00:04:55] of the streaming service. Now, I remember a time when Iger came on and he made us he made us swear

[00:05:01] he made a promise that he wasn't going to do any big acquisitions. That was his like one of his

[00:05:06] things, right? Because he was sort of like that's what he's known for. He's known for buying it.

[00:05:11] IP buying this, buying that he said he was not going to buy anything big. Here we are $8.6 billion

[00:05:16] later. I understand why it's very strategic. There's a lot of strategic going on for the Disney

[00:05:21] company. It makes sense. But you know, I feel like he ran on the platform of not buying anything.

[00:05:28] Yeah. And you know, and here we are after cutting 7,000 jobs and fighting to pay,

[00:05:35] fighting against paying people minimum wage or we're at a point where we're buying Hulu.

[00:05:41] But wasn't this set in motion already? Like weren't they contractually obligated to complete

[00:05:47] this acquisition by a certain date? That is possible. I don't know. Of course, ABC news is not

[00:05:54] telling me that. But you know, it's not I'm not getting a full rundown of it.

[00:05:57] Well, I can be wrong. I don't know. I didn't know. I didn't have any chance to research your story ahead

[00:06:02] of times. I didn't know what it was as if as if you would have done that anyway. Sometimes I do.

[00:06:09] Okay. I know if you I like to at least have a couple points to talk about if you're talking about

[00:06:12] something I'm not familiar with. However, what I would I don't so I can't speak to this

[00:06:18] perfectly, but I do feel like I remember reading somewhere that this was a phased acquisition

[00:06:24] and that they were obligated contractually to complete the purchase of Hulu at at some point.

[00:06:30] Now, I don't know if that was in stone. If that would they if they had negotiating room with that.

[00:06:34] But I remember that was sort of the plan. And for some reason, I had it in my head that this had

[00:06:39] to happen. So he might his hands may have been tied coming back into the fold with this. But we.

[00:06:46] I remember that too now that you see a. Yeah, yeah, but I don't know.

[00:06:52] It would take me the problem is like if you Google something you can't you can't first of all,

[00:06:55] you can't Google anything anymore. It doesn't give you anything remotely close to what you need.

[00:07:01] So I got this from deadline. They said in September, Comcast CEO Brian Roberts called the initial

[00:07:06] minimum valuation of 27.5 billion, a hypothetical. Both sides have been public about wanting to get

[00:07:12] a deal done and the timeline they had read that and the timeline had recently been accelerated.

[00:07:18] In early September, the two media giants said they'd modified their Hulu agreement

[00:07:22] to enable the expected buyout of the streamer to launch on September 30th instead of January,

[00:07:27] 2024. I shouldn't really know what I said words. Yeah, so I think they did have an agreement.

[00:07:36] I think you're absolutely right. And but I wonder what the timeline was. It sounds like it was advanced

[00:07:40] a little bit. Yeah, it does sound like that. So I don't know where God gets it. So what will how

[00:07:46] one of the done? Well Disney will is Hulu can still be a standalone service. Is it going to get

[00:07:51] what wrapped up into Disney plus? What are they? I don't know what they're going to do. My thought

[00:07:58] is that they're going to leave it alone for a couple of years because there's so much content on Hulu

[00:08:04] that is not necessarily right for the Disney plus umbrella. You know, there's a lot of horror movies

[00:08:10] and a lot of adult sort of content, a lot of FX stuff on there to FX network. Oh yes, all those

[00:08:15] really good American crime stories like when they did about Betty Brodrick and all that I love

[00:08:22] those. It's pronounced brodrick actually. Is it really? No, it's a young Frankenstein reference

[00:08:29] movie you haven't seen I just kind of realized. And there's another one. What's the other one?

[00:08:34] The American crime story about Elizabeth Holmes from you know with the blood testing device and

[00:08:41] she got she's you know that is that fraud. Yeah, it's a great one. Yeah, that's not necessarily

[00:08:46] Disney plus you know stuff. They have a Nat Geo but that's my thought. I think they're going to

[00:08:52] leave it alone and see what they can do. Maybe down the line they'll wrap it up together

[00:08:56] and no one one app but with a lot of these streaming services anyways. It's hard to find stuff.

[00:09:02] If you ever try to find anything on Amazon Prime, it's impossible. And they only have so much retail

[00:09:08] space to put up what's new right? And so if you have all these other things all the networks all

[00:09:15] the IP that Disney has now there's don't you wouldn't be able to put anything you wouldn't be

[00:09:19] able to properly advertise to your watchers, your subscribers within the app. There's no way. So I

[00:09:25] think you have to leave it separate. That's my thought. I like I like Roku because Roku will search all

[00:09:31] of you can search for a title and it will tell you which streaming service it's on. Yeah,

[00:09:37] that I don't have Roku but I do have a Plex server and they'll they do that too. You can figure it out

[00:09:42] which one of your friends has it and stuff like that. But anyway there you go the Mr. I'm not going

[00:09:46] to buy anything anymore is bot stuff. Yeah, apparently they just said 8.6 billion lying around.

[00:09:52] Right. Right. But don't worry about it. It's fine. Right. I'm sure it'll be all right. Yeah.

[00:09:57] All right, what you got, Jareh. Hit me. Well if Harmonious made you sick, wait until you hear

[00:10:02] about luminous and it's list of music. See once again, you've been treading on thin ice with these

[00:10:07] and I think they're going to go one way in a very vulgar area and they don't and I can't tell if I'm

[00:10:12] relieved or disappointed. I don't know. I have to keep it clean for the audience. Gyrrthworm would be

[00:10:18] all upset. Yes, I'm sure the man called Gyrrthworm would be very upset.

[00:10:26] Anyway, go ahead. We've been waiting for the new nighttime spectacular coming to Epcot for several

[00:10:30] months now ever since it was announced back in January that the much maligned harmonious,

[00:10:36] mostly just maligned by me, would be ending its short lived run this year in April which it

[00:10:43] mercifully did. In the meantime, Epcot has brought back the in-term show Epcot forever and recently

[00:10:50] Disney announced that the new permanent show to come to World Showcase Lagoon will debut

[00:10:55] in less than a month on December 5th. So it's coming at us pretty quickly. Wow.

[00:11:02] Now for a while, details on the show were scant but last week, the Disney parks and the Disney

[00:11:09] parks blog came out with some new details on the show and unfortunately not looking or sounding too

[00:11:18] good. Oh no. Especially if you're original original show illuminations and its predecessors,

[00:11:25] illuminations 25, 98, reflections of Earth. Now I want to go on the record and state that I think

[00:11:33] that I have been very open-minded about this. I have been hopeful. I have been dare I say positive

[00:11:40] in my thoughts and my outlook thinking that they, and in fact, I think it was on a last show where I

[00:11:46] said I think that they might be bringing it back to the original, you know, an original story.

[00:11:51] It's basically going to be illuminations 2.0. Right. So I was really holding out hope and almost

[00:11:58] immediately this article by Joey Mackle Roy communications manager from Disney live entertainment

[00:12:04] came out on the parks blog and it's over. My dream is dead. I'm reading it. Now have I seen the show?

[00:12:12] No, no, but I believe that I am in I'm not judging the show. I'm judging what Disney is telling me

[00:12:19] about the show. Okay. Doesn't sound very good. And there's also some audio where we're going to

[00:12:24] hear too. Here's what Joey from the Disney parks blog has to say we're just over a month away

[00:12:30] from the launch of the latest nighttime spectacular from Disney live entertainment luminous, the symphony

[00:12:36] of us featuring dazzling fireworks, fountains, lights and music to connect us all through

[00:12:42] commonalities of the heart. This all new show.

[00:12:49] Commonalities of the heart, yeah, means nothing. These are it's empty path. This is just words.

[00:12:58] It's chat GPT got a hold of the Disney company. Oh wait. So because here's the thing about this article.

[00:13:04] I don't like the message or the messenger because I don't like the details that they are outlining

[00:13:09] and also the way that they put this in this article is so terrible that it's but I hate both of it.

[00:13:17] It's not like it's a poorly written article with really great details. It's a shit article

[00:13:21] with telling me about a really terrible show that I think's coming.

[00:13:26] So this all new show shines a light on how each of our unique melodies comes together to form

[00:13:34] a great symphony, the symphony of us. So first of all and I've know I've said this year before but

[00:13:40] stop making everything about me. Stop putting all the pressure on me. You are the magic.

[00:13:46] Like everything's got to be me doing all this. It's first of all it's incredibly narcissistic like for

[00:13:52] me to walk into a park and to think that everything should just be about me. The whole trend

[00:13:56] of everything about me, I don't want me. I live with me. I have me all the time. I couldn't

[00:14:01] do anything to get away from me and see something else. Okay, I want to see Disney or I want

[00:14:08] to see a story that they have to tell. When's it going to be Disney? Disney? Yeah, oh, I can't believe

[00:14:15] I haven't even tried that yet. The article continues much like a beautiful piece of music.

[00:14:21] Luminous, the symphony of us is made up so it's not itself a beautiful piece of music. It's like

[00:14:27] a beautiful piece of music. They are definitely couching. They're couching this for sure.

[00:14:33] Like, we never said it was beautiful is like a beautiful piece of music but it's not.

[00:14:40] It's made up of a series of movements. Just be like like not a beautiful piece of music. Be

[00:14:46] like a symphony. Luminous, the symphony of us is made up of several movements. Like more

[00:14:52] make more sense. Luminous, the story of us is made up of several movements. Like you don't

[00:14:58] need to have flowery language all the time. Just come out and say what it is. Right. Like,

[00:15:03] illumination said several movements. They weren't like it's like a symphony guys get it.

[00:15:08] So but you know Disney thinks we're all so stupid and everything has to be so heavy handed and

[00:15:12] like beating me over the head. Like there's no subtlety anywhere. But all of this,

[00:15:17] what all of their PR communication reminds me of is just the mom's panel. Yeah, yeah.

[00:15:21] The Disney mom's panel where all of those you know responses and stuff is all just the same sort

[00:15:27] of like, I remember my first time when I breathed the air inside the bath in the main street runway

[00:15:35] and it changed my life. So therefore, I think you should really call early and get reservations

[00:15:40] for Carthay Circle. Like there's no it's that kind of stuff. And I think what they've done is

[00:15:45] I think they lean into that more with their PR maybe sort of adapting to that because people

[00:15:52] respond to that. There's a section the most vocal Disney fans, the die hards who go all the time

[00:15:59] no matter what the cost is, no matter how long lines are there still there and they're online

[00:16:05] touting the company. They respond to those things better. And so I think it's just they're kind of

[00:16:10] like feeding into the people who they already who already like them anyways. Right. And they're

[00:16:15] not being real people. Right. That makes me sense. Yeah. So each of these series of movements,

[00:16:21] each representing life experience experiences that we have in common showing us that we're more

[00:16:28] like than we are different. Okay. And the reason why they're having to do all this is because no

[00:16:32] one is going to gather this from the show. You were going to go this is a Disney IP show. It's

[00:16:37] here's a bunch of Disney music that we think you need to hear right now mix up in a blender,

[00:16:41] look at it with two original songs go away good night. That's this show but they can't because

[00:16:47] it's not can't say obvious what the story is from that like hearing you've got a friend in me

[00:16:52] like oh I get so they have to tell us this literally verbatim so that we have to go tell of our

[00:16:58] friends like why are they playing this song now? Well these are our common shared life experiences.

[00:17:04] Don't you feel a connection? I see what you're saying but like you know in that

[00:17:09] sit instance where you can imagine someone turning to someone else on Main Street and go like

[00:17:15] you feel our hearts connected now more than ever. Through our shared experiences.

[00:17:21] I don't know man. I really hope that in the boardroom they think that this is how

[00:17:26] fans talk to each other. That would make me feel good. Like this is how they think we communicate.

[00:17:31] Punctuating these movements of the you know where we're learning about how we're more

[00:17:36] alike than we are different. Punctuating these movements will be two original songs written

[00:17:41] just for this spectacular as well as new arrangements of carefully selected Disney songs we all

[00:17:47] know and love which first of all I think is a little presumptuous who are you to tell me that I love

[00:17:52] any of these songs? We all know and love them Jeremy we all do and if you don't they will be uploaded

[00:17:58] to your neural net. There's one of the songs that is you've got to friend in me. I don't know

[00:18:04] that there's a song on this planet. I think I like the chicken dance more than I like you've got

[00:18:08] to friend in me. That song is terrible. You got to win. So then it starts to tell us a bit more about

[00:18:16] the show at the start of the show world showcase comes to life as we hear voices from each pavilion

[00:18:22] welcoming us to this great gathering. When I read this I stopped dead in my tracks. I'll be honest with

[00:18:28] you I was like okay. I'm listening because at this point in the article remember I don't know

[00:18:33] that this is going to be filled with Disney IP necessarily yet. I mean it says Disney songs but

[00:18:38] like I'm still kind of like working my way into this. It's just kind of like like illuminations

[00:18:44] or whatever where they did the wasn't the pre show or like in different languages. Illuminate

[00:18:48] not a reflections of earth but illuminations 25 and illuminations 98 in the 90s both started with

[00:18:56] the countries each welcoming you. Yes. In their own language. Thank you. Yes, you were doing very good.

[00:19:02] So I'm so I'm like oh okay. I like this. Let's go. Yeah. With the tab of a conductor's baton our

[00:19:09] first movement begins with the original song heartbeat symphony and here this is what he says

[00:19:16] for me nothing says Epcot nighttime spectacular like a sweeping ballad. What? A sweeping

[00:19:25] ballad is what sweeping ballad and a nighttime spectacular for you. I don't know the

[00:19:31] illuminations reflections of earth opened up with a segment called chaos. Like it was written in

[00:19:37] like five, four, seven, eight, nine, eight time. Like there was nothing valid about it. I don't

[00:19:42] know what this guy's talking about and that show ended before we go on it ended in in a section called

[00:19:48] celebration which was written in seven, eight, which is a really jumpy kind of like flighty time

[00:19:53] signature. There's nothing valid about it. Anyway check out this behind the scenes look at some

[00:19:58] of the music recording sessions for luminous symphony of us including a little bit of heartbeat

[00:20:03] symphony number one.

[00:20:34] I liked it. I thought it was fine. Did you hum it back to me right now?

[00:20:41] Did that no because you know why it just goes into the Jurassic Park theme song in my head.

[00:20:50] What I did find was that like the and I'm not a musicologist right but like the in part the

[00:20:56] sort of high strings and the wind instruments or whatever and then like the low sort of

[00:21:01] cello or whatever there was a layer there that wasn't congruent. That seemed very disjointed to me.

[00:21:07] I could do away with the lower strings but everything else. I don't know it just seemed

[00:21:12] it seemed fine to me. Yes, it's it's a solid fine. I agree. It's pleasant sounding. My issue

[00:21:19] it doesn't it doesn't offend you to hear it but it's background music to me. Yes. When you walk

[00:21:24] out of phantasmic you're humming bump but I'm bum bum bum bum like everybody's got it's got a tune

[00:21:31] that catches you the mainstream electrical parade. That was my ringtone for a long time. Is

[00:21:35] that a section specifically the guitar? Yeah yeah yeah mainstream electrical parade. A very

[00:21:44] identifiable tune that's not mistaken for anything else. Okay so let's break this over fast.

[00:21:49] This is just triplets. Why don't I do it? But it is very opening push like I can see this being

[00:21:58] the opening of an event. This is where it loses me that kind of plateau then it goes up a little

[00:22:05] more which is fine. It's more like soren music. It's more like exit music for soren. That's what

[00:22:18] it is. That's what that is. Exit music exactly but it's not the soren soundtrack. It's the exit

[00:22:23] music for soren. Yes that's what it is where it's almost like they're trying to recall

[00:22:30] bring you back to a moment you just had but if this is the opening segment of the thing

[00:22:36] yeah there's something not connecting there but it sounds like trailer music it sounds like

[00:22:42] it would be in a great trailer a movie trailer like okay there you know something's happening here

[00:22:46] but I'm not walking away going oh yeah let's hum that song you know it's like

[00:22:52] I couldn't do it. Wish is dream all the different all the different iconic songs

[00:22:58] Spectromagic had a tune they all have a tune that sort of grabbed you and you would

[00:23:03] you would think about it later in Hummett this has no hum ability later on your you you could never

[00:23:08] hum that back to me in 20 minutes when you're in the car in the way home you're like

[00:23:17] yeah cold play now again this is only a clip maybe there is some melody that takes over I do

[00:23:24] think in the part that you sort of dislike there is a like duh duh duh duh but I don't know

[00:23:31] I'm not really hearing it quite yet anyway it's all fine with the stage set our symphony

[00:23:39] takes us to the first movement titled The Tender Love of parenthood. No it doesn't stop it

[00:23:46] you made this up you made this up you are a liar and a cheat the tender love of parenthood

[00:23:55] which is something that this is supposed to be connecting all of us through shared experiences

[00:24:01] so immediately what we're going to be doing is calling out half of the people

[00:24:06] in this park right now who have not had this experience and segment them off

[00:24:12] to go well we're only talking about the people who are parents now so you know what is that

[00:24:21] also parenthood is anything but tender it is rough and callous it's not a tender moment you have them

[00:24:29] but for the most part it's work first movement of our Epcot nighttime spectacular the message this

[00:24:36] company needs to tell in this venue is the tender love of parenthood in a venue surrounded by

[00:24:43] 11 nations and across from a section called world discovery and the story that these morons need

[00:24:50] to tell me is about the tender love of parenthood highlighting childhood moments where each of our

[00:24:55] journeys began and featuring a stirring multilingual arrangement of you'll be in my heart

[00:25:01] that's how they're opening this up after that ballot that you just heard that put you to sleep

[00:25:06] that is elevator music and you describe it as exit music it is you know what it's going to be

[00:25:11] exit music it's because everybody is going to leave this park the minute this starts

[00:25:16] that's exit music okay so all right so now we're gonna hear a multi-leto remind me of the tender

[00:25:22] that's the num that's the first thing the symphony then transitions to proud chorizo

[00:25:27] like i don't know how that okay fine that's related somehow as we find our voice in a movement

[00:25:33] dedicated to the bonds of family friendship then follows with classic songs like you've got a friend

[00:25:40] in me and friend like me taking us back to the days of recess and friendship bracelets

[00:25:48] there's a voice here there's a there's a way of speaking that i'm trying to um

[00:25:54] um place like with that kind of thing and i can't do it it's almost like like when you get emails

[00:26:01] from companies and they're trying to connect with you but it's very clear that you've over thought

[00:26:07] this or remember a while ago in the mid 2000s or whatever uh the mid-Auts people were putting

[00:26:14] gifts into emails and stuff like that and i was like the thing for marketing to do it feels like

[00:26:20] it's from that era where it's like you know the friend recess and friendship why do why are

[00:26:25] you putting recess and friendship bracelets in here not everybody has a friendship bracelet experience

[00:26:31] so and i okay there's a lot there's a lot to unpack for me Jeremy number one i could

[00:26:37] tracing back i could see the idea of like okay surrounded by all these countries what are

[00:26:41] all these countries having common uh parenthood okay they were all parent but not everybody had parents

[00:26:48] not everybody had childhood that was good they're happy so if you're trying to include everybody

[00:26:54] why are we going why are we drilling down to parenthood why not breathing air let's have you know what

[00:27:00] we all need and we all grow up on a planet that was relatively clean and easy to live on let's do

[00:27:06] that you know what i mean we had how we had access to health care let's make sure everybody has that

[00:27:11] just i don't know whatever good this tagline to this theme park is the magic of possibility

[00:27:18] i just i can't imagine i cannot imagine let's think about this for a minute let's just think about

[00:27:22] this the imagineers these venerable storytellers sat down in a blue sky meeting and they said what story

[00:27:30] do we need to tell at our theme park are very unique theme park there's not another one in the world

[00:27:37] like it a permanent world's fair 11 countries around a lagoon world discovery world nature magic

[00:27:44] of possibility and the answer that they came up with was the tender love of parenthood and friendship

[00:27:52] bracelets that's what this company's doing that's what they did and this is the thing this is not

[00:27:59] the rough draft this is it this is the fine there were versions of this that got rejected

[00:28:06] yeah what we're getting to the best possible version of what these absolute

[00:28:12] losers can do they aren't capable that's clear now if there was any doubt in anyone's mind after seeing

[00:28:19] the horrible execution at galaxy's edge that stupid hotel the moana journey of water all of these

[00:28:26] things that have come to us with a repetition a steady cadence of subpar execution if you didn't know

[00:28:36] before you know now that these people are completely incapable of doing anything good it's over

[00:28:43] well i mean that's why the stock is sub eighty five dollars though

[00:28:47] illuminations reflections of worth was often described as an olympics opening ceremony that

[00:28:52] took place every night we've gone from that to friendship bracelets i cannot tell you what a

[00:28:58] fall this is do you feel like we are chasing that high water mark where it's never going to

[00:29:06] is it is it ever going to get back to to illuminations reflections of earth for you is there a way

[00:29:13] because it feels like everyone's trying to do that because they understand that it was popular and

[00:29:17] they want to move things on because the progress the company wants to be progressive and progress

[00:29:22] forward in whatever right and do other stuff but and i'm not saying that you shouldn't expect this

[00:29:28] i'm just wondering if if we're asking too much and we should just be like that was really cool

[00:29:36] this is okay now and that's just the way it goes maybe someday soon the next one will be better

[00:29:42] or whatever i don't i don't know because you are very passionate about these nighttime spectacular

[00:29:46] and i'm not right i don't watch them so i don't care i guess but i i disliked that it bothers you

[00:29:53] so much and i want it i want you to like it because you enjoy the thing i'm not hearing your take on

[00:30:00] it i like hearing your your take on it because i don't know i'm not a musical person

[00:30:06] so i guess i'm just wondering like do you think that it will ever be great again for you

[00:30:14] you

[00:30:15] hmm i don't think that this company is capable of doing impressive things i haven't seen one

[00:30:23] yeah i mean it's not just who they're buying who we're what are you talking about

[00:30:27] this isn't that's a pre-impressive this isn't isolated to Epcot they had a new nighttime spectacular

[00:30:32] magic kingdom in chairman everyone hated it universally and they had to bring back

[00:30:38] happily ever after which itself is good but not amazing it's not the best nighttime spectacular

[00:30:45] Disney has like how do you how do you keep chat how do you chase that dragon of like you got

[00:30:51] this high and you can't quite nail it um subsequent tries how do you get back to it that's

[00:30:58] you know i don't know they have a people problem they have an institutional knowledge problem

[00:31:02] they have a creativity problem they have a bit they have a problem look look all these

[00:31:05] imagineers are gone look what they're doing with the resorts it's not even it's not isolated

[00:31:09] you know i said it's not isolated to Epcot it's not even isolated to nighttime spectacular

[00:31:13] this is hitting them everywhere it's hitting them in in their parades where they have

[00:31:18] been brought back all of the character actors a lot of um happily a festival of fantasy is most

[00:31:25] of the actors still aren't back it's a really it's a shell of itself they're de-thieving you know

[00:31:31] we've talked about this with the hotels de-thieving and making it all really bland and modern it

[00:31:35] looks like a west um like they've built this or their building this new DVC at Polynesian that

[00:31:41] doesn't look in why not just make it look like alani alani has a lot of capacity it's huge but it's

[00:31:46] really well themed from top to bottom and that would be great next to the Polynesian resort but

[00:31:51] instead they're building like this mid century modern block house it's this is everywhere it sort

[00:31:57] of feels like imagineers or company heads are not even company heads but division heads are trying

[00:32:04] to leave their mark because they see it they hear about a Tony Baxter they hear about a you know

[00:32:11] roly crump who's very revered right but oddly enough who also internally wasn't really very

[00:32:16] revered because he never went to art school so like a lot of imagineers sort of poo pooed him which

[00:32:20] I think is why he hasn't gotten his his dues yet you know his laurels were to the level of Tony

[00:32:26] Baxter by the way which arguably roly contributed more to like the best parts of the park than

[00:32:32] Tony Baxter did but that's just me so I wonder if that's what it is where like they don't want to

[00:32:37] just make it like alani or or like the rest of the poly like you know and just they make it another

[00:32:42] arm of the poly they have to make it something totally different so then in 20 years they'll get their

[00:32:48] window maybe I that could be seems like a selfish way to look at your contribution right

[00:32:56] but that's the only thing I can understand or the only thing I can think of as to why these

[00:33:01] misses keep happening and the majority of people online are like hey this is dumb especially us

[00:33:07] where like this is not doesn't look good they're getting roasted for these things

[00:33:11] but they keep doing them anyway so I just don't even think of it's that like there's like well

[00:33:16] we don't understand our vision right I mean to be we haven't seen the show I have heard me now we

[00:33:21] have heard music of it and I'm looking at a playlist so I can't I'm not judging the show

[00:33:26] I'm judging the concept that they're telling me yes so maybe the execution of this concept will

[00:33:33] be much different and it will be closer to what I have hoped I will say that they've always had

[00:33:41] a weird problem in PR about how to talk to us to me personally the audience yeah they use

[00:33:48] this weird language and it's almost like they talk down to me but not really and it's just I

[00:33:52] don't like it it's always awkward and uncomfortable just speak normally use plain language

[00:33:59] and give me a picture yeah I don't know I mean the way they're describing this is similar

[00:34:04] well I mean usually they overself stuff so the way they describe this to me sounds an awful lot

[00:34:11] like harmonious and you know a lot of people in the Disney community are saying oh gosh

[00:34:17] they got rid of harmonious but they really didn't lend the lessons of harmonious at least

[00:34:21] according to this concept that's all we can judge right now is the concept okay I don't like the

[00:34:26] concept I don't like that so first of all again and here's the thing in this was something that people

[00:34:33] with harmonious always said they were like well it would be a good show if it was on the castle

[00:34:36] and that right there so misses the point isn't that because Epcot is such a unique space and such a

[00:34:42] unique venue to put a show that could be played on a castle there is such a disservice to it and

[00:34:50] such a wasted opportunity to not take advantage of the countries which is why when it talked

[00:34:56] in earlier about we welcome you from every country with you know like a voice I'm like okay good

[00:35:00] like world showcases coming to life those were my biggest criticisms of harmonious was that

[00:35:04] harmonious just sort of like took place out in the middle of the lagoon with its back to the

[00:35:10] countries the countries were all just like like stand like I'm personifying them but they were just

[00:35:14] like there it was that show could have taken place anywhere illuminations always worked in the

[00:35:20] countries to in different versions some more and some less but like the countries were it was

[00:35:25] almost like the countries were putting on a show for you and then harmonious came in and like

[00:35:30] acted like an idiot in front of everything it was it was a disaster and so it bothers me that this

[00:35:36] sort of doesn't seem to be telling the story it's like all the countries are welcome you okay now

[00:35:41] we're gonna tell you about the tenderness of paranoid which I just I can't even believe that they

[00:35:48] wrote this and that they're like yeah that's what it is it is weird especially because parenthood

[00:35:54] in different cultures is very different it's very different you know how will you look at parenthood

[00:35:58] versus how you know people in Mexico or people in China like it's just it's different we don't have

[00:36:05] shared experiences even though we yes we all had parents but that's not a shared experience I

[00:36:10] mean beyond that that's that's that's where our shared experience stops we all had different

[00:36:16] childhoods we all were raised differently but the fact that we were conceived and born yes

[00:36:20] then we all share that but talk about the miracle of life don't talk about the tenderness of

[00:36:24] parenthood that's dumb I also think I can I think that there is a there is something admirable about

[00:36:34] wanting to teach us what connects us all and what all the things that we have in common agreed

[00:36:39] it's good to remind us that we aren't just separate all the time but we are human beings and we're

[00:36:44] all we all have a lot in common right but I don't know that an arrangement of you'll be in my heart

[00:36:49] followed by Proud Quarzon is the one that is what's gonna do that so like you've got a friend

[00:36:54] in my parents I get it with like these songs don't do that they're not doing that that's not

[00:37:01] the message anyone's gonna want no one's gonna be like oh yeah tenderness we're connected and

[00:37:05] you'll be in my heart it's just a way for them to play that stupid song that's in every every

[00:37:10] other Disney night time spectacular well right and I that's what I think misses the mark for me with

[00:37:16] these kinds of things in the way that they put feelings on songs Disney specifically is that

[00:37:23] they're telling us that this is how we're going to feel or this is the motivation behind why

[00:37:27] they did it but it's all BS because nobody and you just said it nobody is going to walk away

[00:37:33] feeling closer to people that they don't know because of this musical arrangement it will not happen

[00:37:39] it does not happen we aren't there for that we are there for entertainment so make it sound good

[00:37:46] and give me bright shiny lights maybe a couple honks maybe an explosion or two that's what I want

[00:37:52] to see what I don't want to be aware of is that you are trying to you know remind me of my childhood

[00:38:01] and friendship bracelets with these you know strings I just it doesn't for me Disney feels like

[00:38:09] they need to be motivated by feelings to to then execute a plan whether to show or a ride or whatever

[00:38:15] and it doesn't need to be that way I would love it if Disney was like do we have this really cool idea

[00:38:19] so you know here it is it's a boulder that it's like a kinder egg and you have to break it open

[00:38:24] collectively or whatever right it's just a cool idea that we had it doesn't have anything to do with

[00:38:28] feelings just here it is it's a cool thing we did this is why illuminations was so perfect is because

[00:38:34] it started off with the big bang and the history of the earth which is both astronomy history science

[00:38:42] which is that side of the park and then it told told the story of humanity coming to earth

[00:38:47] establishing countries and showing all of our innovations as a people together so it was a

[00:38:53] perfect transition from future world to world showcase and then it said okay now here we are now

[00:39:00] we go forward together as one yeah you that was it that that was us that it's here's our history

[00:39:07] our common history our nations together our innovations and now we're all gonna hold hands and

[00:39:11] go together as one you did it Disney you already did it you don't need you've got a friend in me to

[00:39:15] tell the story you have it that's the high water and we all love it I don't think you can get

[00:39:21] better than that you go on the Disney Parks blog which usually they're pretty good at adding out

[00:39:25] the negative comments and people are like oh this is almost feeling giving me illuminations feelings

[00:39:31] it's like take the hint guys you shouldn't want to almost to give us those feelings you should

[00:39:36] want to just give us the feelings just bring it back give us new tech upgrade the tech make a better

[00:39:43] earth globe high-res 4k whatever you got to do give me new lasers okay and let's go yeah shoot

[00:39:50] me across the lagoon in a can and that's what I want get pinner toe pack out of here she can't write

[00:39:54] all she did is she made four chords that sound nice to each other I could go to a piano right now

[00:39:59] and do that in 10 minutes it's not that hard the article continues set to a sweeping arrangement

[00:40:04] of so close a personal favorite hidden gem from Disney's enchanted sorry I'm gonna dissect this one

[00:40:12] so close from Disney's enchanted how is that a hidden gem I can name two nighttime spectacular that

[00:40:18] that song is already in at Disneyland Paris and at Disney California adventure in world of color it

[00:40:25] might not be in the current version of world of color I haven't seen that thing but it's part of that

[00:40:29] so it's I don't know that we're calling that an hidden gem it's it's like an obvious gem

[00:40:34] it's like when people list like ghost busters as a cult classic you're like no that's not it yeah

[00:40:41] okay but then the show moves on inevitably in life we experience the quiet loneliness of loss

[00:40:48] but when she loved me and remember me bring us into the unknown the echoes of those around us

[00:40:53] remind us that we're never truly alone so not only do we have parenthood and friendship bracelets

[00:40:59] in common but people die the loneliness of death but also we're not ever alone but we're lonely

[00:41:07] but we're alone but we're not alone are we alone or are we not alone is the loneliness here with us now

[00:41:14] you believe this this is a show concept this is not armchair engineering like it's someone got drunk

[00:41:23] this is it this is actually what they've done as we come out of the darkness the music crescendos to

[00:41:29] I see the light oh yes we never heard that's never in and I'm surprised I will tell you this

[00:41:35] there's no mwana in this and that is a blessing because they are putting that every it's everywhere

[00:41:41] so there is no mwana I guess I have to be thankful for something and then we come into our finale

[00:41:47] and our second original song entitled beating of our hearts number two

[00:41:53] wasn't the first one called like heartbeat of america or something like that?

[00:41:56] very much heartbeat this one's called beating of the hearts

[00:42:01] the third one will be the hearts that beat

[00:42:06] the fourth one is beat my heart right here we go

[00:42:26] and beat your soul I'll be there to sing our love

[00:42:33] and join up the world will become my sympathy

[00:42:44] you'll become a symphony

[00:42:49] yeah

[00:42:52] that's the finale yeah they're trying to recreate we go on they're never going to do it no

[00:42:57] yeah you put the drums and stuff here I didn't mind the orchestration the singing in the words

[00:43:03] I did not like I agree with you 100% on that there you go perfect out the vocals but they don't have

[00:43:09] the stones they're not they don't have the they don't have the gumption to take out the vocals because

[00:43:15] then people might not get the story if you aren't being told word for word what's happening

[00:43:20] you won't get it guys you have to tear the words

[00:43:26] as someone who's this is him continuing it's as we're wrapping it up as someone whose Disney career

[00:43:31] began in world showcase it's hard to express how much the nighttime spectacular meme to me

[00:43:37] I hope this first look makes you as excited as I am to share this new symphony together

[00:43:44] part of the grand finale as grand finale as we near the completion of the multi-year

[00:43:49] transformation of that goddess is it's not going to be done by then they won't be finished

[00:43:55] tearing out of fountain and putting in trees by then what struck me there was like something about

[00:44:02] if you go back to the line where it says I hope this makes you as excited as it does me

[00:44:08] to share what what what was it we'll go back to that I hope this first look makes you as excited

[00:44:13] as I am to share this new symphony together right that doesn't make sense I hope this first look

[00:44:21] makes you as excited as I am to share this look together so no to share that he wants you to be

[00:44:31] he's excited to go see this symphony yeah and he hopes that this first look makes you excited

[00:44:36] to go see it too that's when he needs to say that right but instead he needs to throw in the word

[00:44:41] together and that then that confuses everything it's like but wait you want this to make me as

[00:44:47] excited as you're excited about sharing it then I should be excited about sharing it together

[00:44:53] whatever he got the buzzwords out of order is excited share excited symphony share excited you

[00:44:59] me excited share symphony yeah okay thank you it's you run a PR firm you are I need you to

[00:45:08] to craft a press release on a new nighttime spectacular listing these five buzzwords

[00:45:15] sharing emotions tenderness sharing feeling capture enter so there were two

[00:45:25] comments on the Disney Park blog article that I wanted to share with you and neither of them was

[00:45:29] written by me the first one is celebrating parenthood with you'll be in my heart celebrating

[00:45:36] friendship with friend like me and you've got a friend in me that's literally happy ever after

[00:45:40] it's a magic kingdom show not Epcot says Ryan and then the next comment is this show is going to

[00:45:48] bomb just as bad as harmonious no one at Disney understands Epcot it's very obvious with the

[00:45:53] recent additions all you want to do is stuff the park full of IP and not develop anything original

[00:45:58] spicy wow nothing will ever top illuminations so until you hire Gavin Greenaway again to write

[00:46:06] 2.0 to that show people are going to hate the nighttime shows here and that was a chase wrote that

[00:46:12] so I agree with both Ryan and Chase I'm surprised that those comments are up because I've written

[00:46:19] half the vitro that that has and it never even got posted well didn't really fired all the moderators

[00:46:27] I know they absolutely did I mean they cleared out their entire social media team

[00:46:31] you know they're in and they're gonna yeah and at one point they just had like managers posting

[00:46:37] and that's how that's where you got the weird posts and the stuff that didn't mean

[00:46:40] anything or they're like happy Thursday with a picture of Donald is like oh cool I love this

[00:46:45] content because I don't know anything this is probably a stretch but I also wonder or hope that maybe

[00:46:50] someone who works in their moderating department the the person who's left working in their moderating

[00:46:55] area like maybe like deliminations and I don't know they had to go now they they couldn't moderate

[00:47:02] because I had a code V to take care of it's a janitorial because it's a joke um are you done

[00:47:10] yes okay let's take a quick break on that Jeremy my apologies I interrupted you a lot but

[00:47:16] I'm interested in these kinds of things and how they impact people like you they do impact me

[00:47:23] yeah everyone we're gonna take a quick break everybody hang on we'll be right back with ears

[00:47:27] up in depth I got a couple more new stories and Jeremy has one too that'll yeah it's gonna be quick

[00:47:32] low you away

[00:47:39] in-depth reporting Disney news that's probably not made up

[00:47:46] hey what's up speaking of something that's probably not made up but a lot of people wish it was

[00:47:51] this is from insider dot com disney this okay you guys know how I feel about

[00:47:57] news articles and just basically anything in general but this is the entire headline of this article

[00:48:02] Disney is suddenly and without warning cracking down on third party tour guides comma

[00:48:08] some of which have operated for decades and help curate park experiences for disabled visitors

[00:48:14] that's the headline I have heard this

[00:48:17] I haven't read it because I've never uh well you don't need to anymore you know so it tells

[00:48:24] like a little story Nicholas Dennis was waiting to enter Disney world in Orlando with his clients

[00:48:29] last month when a park manager pulled him out of line Dennis Dennis Dennis is a third party tour guide

[00:48:36] he said he was waiting with clients at the time to help them navigate the park when Dennis walked

[00:48:41] away with the manager he said two orange county police officers greeted him

[00:48:46] Korean one of Dennis's clients who was present at the time said she quote felt horrible as she

[00:48:51] watched the scene unfold quote it felt like he had done something terribly wrong the way that they

[00:48:56] pulled him aside and spoke to him said Korean and then they have to say whose last name is known to

[00:49:02] insider and has been withheld for privacy concerns like just don't even just don't about

[00:49:06] after speaking with park staff Dennis says a police officer handed him a trespass notice

[00:49:12] and told him he was indefinitely banned from all Walt Disney world properties

[00:49:18] he said the officer told him the ban could be appealed via a handwritten letter addressed to

[00:49:23] Disney's security director after one year I love that they only accepted handwritten

[00:49:30] handwritten you gotta put in some work and you gotta wait one full year one full calendar year

[00:49:36] is this typed 363 days in advance get out of here yeah I mean you have a whole year to work

[00:49:43] in your handwriting you might as well you know you could it be tight but then like signed handwritten

[00:49:51] I will not do it again you have to write it a hundred times

[00:49:54] yeah oh my god that would actually be really funny just descended in with like you had to do

[00:49:58] sentence says to unauthorized commercial activities are not permitted at Disney world as clearly

[00:50:03] stated in our property rules a Disney spokesperson told insider in a statement a spokesperson for the

[00:50:08] orange county sheriff's office told insider that they have deputies assigned to work at the park

[00:50:13] every day insider spoke with nine third party business owners and tour guides impacted by a crack

[00:50:19] down on their services five of whom have received the notices themselves several say that they've

[00:50:25] been operating for years one for nearly three decades it have never had an issue before only an

[00:50:32] igarz america man yeah many of the businesses help clients secure dining and lodging reservations

[00:50:38] at Disney world designed there are tenor areas and help them navigate the parks several third party

[00:50:44] business owners also told insider that they provide services at a lower rate than Disney which

[00:50:48] charges four hundred and fifty to nine hundred dollars per hour for private tours one third party

[00:50:54] operator said their prices range from one eighty to two hundred fifty an hour well others said their

[00:51:00] rates can go to three hundred dollars an hour but you don't get the same benefits because the

[00:51:06] Disney official ones can take you to the front of the line you can eat in any restaurant like you

[00:51:10] don't have to have advanced dining reservations like there's a lot of other benefits for that

[00:51:14] additional money that these outside third party organizations can't get you that's correct now

[00:51:20] several owners and tour guides say they're facing financial insecurity as their jobs vanish and

[00:51:25] they just want to see it at the table with Disney to find a solution there is no solution

[00:51:30] there is no seat at the table you are not allowed to do this thing you can't do this thing they're

[00:51:35] not going to make an exception because you're doing what you're giving guided tours for so I don't

[00:51:40] know how they catch these people how do you even catch them and even know none of us are attempting

[00:51:48] to portray Disney in a negative light but are just desperate for answers a lot of crutchfield the

[00:51:53] third party guide and owner of elevate amusement told insider Ramon Rodriguez has run his business

[00:51:59] theme park concierges for 12 years you receive a trespass notice on October 4th he says we provide

[00:52:05] a service to Disney itself by bringing clients high end clients said Rodriguez my clients are eating

[00:52:11] hamburgers and hot dogs and popcorn they go to Disney's high end restaurants they stay at Disney's

[00:52:16] luxury hotels first of all what a terrible thing to say because everyone reading this goes oh what

[00:52:22] am I now I'm not high end because I'm getting a friggin hamburger and apacot get out of my face

[00:52:26] about to get weight gain sympathy from the public dick face yeah sorry right also you're telling me

[00:52:36] Disney's high end restaurants that means that you're that you're a high end client who goes you

[00:52:41] eat at Carthay I eat it it doesn't like who what are you talking about dude like you go to Napa

[00:52:48] Rose and therefore you're a high end client also if you are high end client you would just get a

[00:52:54] friggin VIP tour guide it is yeah you're not that high end but that's how the middle that's like

[00:52:59] the how upper middle class is this like they they they put on the heirs of being super rich

[00:53:05] but they actually aren't so it's like oh I wouldn't be called dead it pizza rizzo

[00:53:10] hey yeah I have a DNG belt but you know it's wrapped around Levi's so it's fine

[00:53:19] but there are some kind of like sad sadder ones to like that guy I don't really care about but

[00:53:23] this guy Murray Krasnoff runs a third party concierge in tour guide business he told insider his

[00:53:28] company has operated since 96 and has never had an issue with security before last month

[00:53:34] his company specializes in helping visitors who have disabilities navigate the park

[00:53:40] I have four families in November and I have a party of 17 over Christmas week with three people

[00:53:45] with special needs Krasnoff told insider I've been on the phone with them saying I'm sorry to tell

[00:53:50] you this now they're all stressing out about what can be done I don't know I think you have to then

[00:53:55] designate someone else to go in your place I guess no Disney makes accommodations for people who are

[00:54:01] special needs already they don't need third party tour guide yeah but like I guess what I don't

[00:54:08] understand is number one why does Disney care well I mean I mean I guess that's it why do they

[00:54:17] care so much because you're right did they they do make accommodations for people with disabilities

[00:54:23] you know whatever right but if these people want to hire somebody who is a Disney park pro

[00:54:33] who knows how to go who knows how to read the thing or whatever

[00:54:38] genie plus can figure all that stuff out they don't have to do it if they don't want to they're

[00:54:44] wealthy enough to pay somebody do let them pay somebody to do it why do you why does Disney care

[00:54:48] about it well and it is interesting because I actually am friends with the VIP tour guide and

[00:54:52] they're busy as hell like they it's not like they're looking for like dying for clients like

[00:55:01] they're all scheduled out they were working eight days a week like they're very busy and in fact

[00:55:06] they've been hiring more and more VIP tour guides because the demand is so high so it's not like

[00:55:11] it's like this limited supply Disney's more ready making a lot of money I I don't know why they

[00:55:20] don't want it other than that like it is sort of weird that people are making money on top of

[00:55:25] the parks and that does add more people into the parks who probably wouldn't be there I mean they're

[00:55:30] paying to be there but that is taking the if in especially in a park where you have park reservations

[00:55:35] that's a reservation that could be going to someone who's not there to make a buck that would

[00:55:39] like just do like to go and enjoy the parks so I do think like especially you know he's

[00:55:44] with this guy is doing it during Christmas week when the parks do close to capacity

[00:55:50] um you know that's that's an annual pass hold or someone else that couldn't go because they're

[00:55:54] over there making money as tour guides that doesn't seem right yeah but well but these people

[00:56:00] were gonna go anyways like their work and their vacation yeah but it's one person that's one

[00:56:07] person who's a regular customer who could have gone but the you could make the argument that

[00:56:13] the tour guide is a regular customer also because they're going so often that they're leading tours

[00:56:18] you know yeah I suppose you could make the argument anyway this the story goes on that there's

[00:56:25] a lot of these people this was their only sorts of income and now they don't know what do

[00:56:30] uh that Rodriguez guy said he had to return 25 grand his clients he was forced to cancel their

[00:56:35] trips after receiving his trespass notice several of the business owners and tour guides told inside

[00:56:40] or all they want is to work with Disney to find a solution but again I don't understand how they're

[00:56:46] getting caught it don't I don't get that I mean maybe it's like clear if you're leading a group

[00:56:52] of people around or whatever that like hey what are you doing but it sounds like these people are

[00:56:57] just being pulled out a lot and we know who you are here's your here's your trespass notice

[00:57:03] they're seeing these people every day the official recognition software they see how often

[00:57:07] you're going into the parks they see you leading a group of people and talking to them all the time

[00:57:12] it I'm sure they do eventually start to stand out there's a lot of regular you know the cast

[00:57:17] members are paying attention their security is paying attention they're all watching and those

[00:57:21] patterns start to emerge I'm sure they're like oh here's that one again with another group of

[00:57:26] people and he's standing at the front talking to them yeah I'm very proud so I don't know I mean

[00:57:33] yeah it's I don't sort of problem with it stinks but also they did say

[00:57:38] they're living on such like shifting sands like it's a theme park that like

[00:57:43] they tell you you're not supposed to be doing doing commercial things in there

[00:57:46] so why are you making an entire industry off of it it's pretty you should be happy that you made

[00:57:51] the money you did and they before they caught on to you you got away with it that's kind of how I

[00:57:57] feel and a couple notes that I skipped in that article one was that you know even though business

[00:58:03] is money exchanges hands off site the service is being redeemed on site so business so Disney's

[00:58:13] calling that doing business on company grounds right so like through the whole day you're just you're

[00:58:18] so I don't know I feel like it's a weird letter of the law but there was another section in

[00:58:24] there were a couple of these tour guides where like yeah I do know people in the business that are

[00:58:28] unethical like they tell people to go get a disabled pass by saying you have ibs or something

[00:58:35] like that and you can't stand in line and so and they're like yeah I know it happens and so maybe

[00:58:41] there's something along those lines too we're like kind of just ruins the party for everybody if you

[00:58:47] have you know someone pee in the pool kind of well that was a few years ago that first came to light

[00:58:52] so that there were people who had disability passes and they were acting as the tour guides

[00:58:58] and that's how they were getting people to the front of the lines so Disney cut that out so now

[00:59:03] you just got tour guides who are like helping I will say on behalf of the people who are going to

[00:59:09] the parks and these tour guides Disney has created a need for them because they have made it so

[00:59:15] difficult for the average person to understand how to get into these parks I still I couldn't tell you

[00:59:20] the other I was there a month ago and I wanted to see if I could do this new journey of water walk

[00:59:27] through thing like I don't know why like I need to do that you do need to do it for this show

[00:59:32] specifically I will go I'm gonna go in soon but and I'm like I don't even know how to get on a

[00:59:36] virtual queue honestly like I think it's in the app but like it's not even it's not like there's a big

[00:59:41] section of the app that says virtual queue like you have to go to another section that doesn't say

[00:59:44] virtual queue and so it's like you know they created this need by making it so complex and annoying

[00:59:52] that people would rather pay two to three hundred dollars for a person to just figure an hour

[00:59:57] yes exactly which is why I like concierge because you can do all that stuff off site you don't need

[01:00:02] to be on site with a client like leading a tour here's all your stuff here's how you do it

[01:00:09] message me if you have any problems but I already made all your reservations I've already done

[01:00:13] everything for you and you just go and you experience I just don't I don't know man

[01:00:18] look if you have enough money to hire these people awesome good for you come patreon supporter

[01:00:24] patreon.com slash ears up but otherwise like do you think Disney looks at it from the standpoint of

[01:00:28] okay these people this is two to three hundred dollars an hour that they're spending on a whole day

[01:00:33] that's money that could be going to souvenirs food and things like that I don't think that I

[01:00:38] think they want to it's like when streaming sites crack down on password sharing I feel like

[01:00:46] it's like we're missing money on the same thing so maybe not souvenirs but like these people want

[01:00:51] tour guides we have tour guides you just have to pay double the price an hour and you get other stuff

[01:00:57] so I think it's I think it's that they're just they want those customers like your friends said

[01:01:02] they're hiring people all the time for a VIP tour guides there's a demand for it so why do we

[01:01:09] want to turn them away from our services now we're the only game in town you can't go third party

[01:01:17] all the time now that's my story well it's the happiest place of them all but some people are

[01:01:23] pooping in the hall you heard about this this was all over you I have just seen this oh

[01:01:31] the only news that you could you kids when you did cat without hitting this one

[01:01:36] writers at Disneyland and Walt Disney World have been defecating

[01:01:42] I just had never thought I would read those words you know what I like about you Jeremy is

[01:01:47] like most people will just laugh at like poop jokes but you are too elevated for that you have to

[01:01:51] laugh at defecation I only laugh at defecation yeah you say poop to me I'm never gonna laugh

[01:01:56] see peeping now but if you say urine or urea forget about it I'm on the floor but

[01:02:01] don't even yeah yeah um writers at Disneyland and Walt Disney World have been defecating in

[01:02:08] the attraction cues according to people who have posted uh the site on social media twice

[01:02:15] in the last month posters on the Disney World subreddit by the way let me pause this for a second

[01:02:23] I happen to look back at our feedback on iTunes and someone called us Reddit bros

[01:02:37] oh I love that which I was like I I don't even have read it so I don't know what that is but

[01:02:44] I suppose if I'm referencing articles that are referencing Reddit I'm a reddit bro whatever

[01:02:50] that means I've never heard Reddit bros before but I understand the connotation it's not good

[01:02:56] but it wasn't like like we're like inside the magic where we just like troll Reddit and then get

[01:03:02] stories and read it it's like that's not this is one person who's listened to our show one time oh

[01:03:07] yeah he heard that and if they know everything about it yeah there was like oh okay well there you go

[01:03:12] we're read it bro so I went so why I never read I never read I can't it's just it's

[01:03:18] false so stupid people are just they made me laugh because I was like well I'm talking about

[01:03:23] Reddit this year yeah it's pretty good the posters on the Disney World subreddit commented in theory

[01:03:30] and horror about the cursed things they said they'd seen while in line quote I am in the cue for

[01:03:35] rise of the resistance someone let their kid take a dump on the floor and then just walked away

[01:03:42] and left it what WTF someone who claimed to work as a cast member replied and said for the skeptics

[01:03:50] this actually happened here's a fun fact this was one of three defecation related they used

[01:03:57] a different word defecation related incidents rise of the resistance today less fun fact

[01:04:02] I the cast member was here for all of them on another thread a commenter bemoaned the behavior

[01:04:08] of part guess at the wildly popular attraction flight of passage bodily fluids no longer bother me

[01:04:14] after working at Disney they wrote let's just say that the attraction I work at has what has

[01:04:20] what the cast ended up dubbing the poop haul because of the amount of times guests have gone in there

[01:04:25] and pooped we even put up a camera and it didn't stop them which well obvious was the camera

[01:04:35] you right and also at that point go for it dude like your this is an emergency wow but also

[01:04:43] at the end of the line your can't your face will be shown just like it is unlike the pictures for

[01:04:49] you know space man look there we are oh look there's Kevin yeah just like a frozen like poop face I

[01:04:55] yeah you're like half crowning your crouching crowning and at that point oh that's a good British

[01:05:02] pub the crouching crouching crown yeah so you know don't do that on the road you'll remember actually

[01:05:10] we talked about here on flight of passage when remember a few years ago someone got pita

[01:05:18] someone got pita on the leg in that yes yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then they have since installed

[01:05:26] a restroom at the halfway point of that queue yeah and I have used it yeah yeah and in fact

[01:05:34] it wasn't even a very long queue that day but I just had to go

[01:05:41] I mean it's just like you know what it's just like the trash cans man

[01:05:45] if you have enough of them people will use them if you don't have enough of them there's

[01:05:49] going to be trash on the floor if you build that they will come yeah they built it that's absolutely

[01:05:53] win in there now you'll remember our friends Ken Pellman and Lynn Baron who co-authored the book

[01:06:00] cleaning the kingdom yes they worked as custodians at Disneyland in the 90s and early 2000s and

[01:06:05] they discussed in their book a code age which was originally a term that custodial staff used to

[01:06:12] indicate horse crap for when the you know the horse horses that pull the main street vehicles on

[01:06:19] main street and you know to go clean up that a code age well the term has been kept in use and

[01:06:25] has sort of morphed into the term for a human crap as well code age so it is definitely a thing

[01:06:33] and it's been a thing for some time it seems given what we know from the our friends that cleaning

[01:06:38] the kingdom so people are pooping that lines are too long so you know what I read the thing and

[01:06:46] you told me very graciously that you were going to do the story and I was like okay good I don't have

[01:06:50] to and then I asked the few cast members that I know and nobody has heard of this or has not

[01:06:58] experienced this so I don't know like how prevalent it is to have articles written about I have seen

[01:07:06] someone peeing okay in the in a queue it was a child sure but I watched a mother that your kid

[01:07:14] pee in the bushes on a in a queue I think I've seen my friend did say that on her ride that she

[01:07:20] manned a kid pooped while on the ride and she never followed up I said well that ride was already a

[01:07:28] piece of excrement how did you know it ever happened because she used to do meters

[01:07:33] okay it's very funny joke to me but yeah like my other friends like I've never I don't know

[01:07:39] never heard of it so I'm not saying it doesn't happen but it's not as widespread as as I guess

[01:07:44] this article would make it seem well it seems like these cast members are saying that this happens daily

[01:07:51] that's gross multiple times in their shifts and I don't understand yeah I guess that's the gen X

[01:07:58] are in me like the cynical you know the someone who grew up with the internet growing together you

[01:08:04] know it's I just don't trust anything that anybody says unless you have a picture of yourself

[01:08:10] in your cast member outfit self-being with a big turd that's the only way I'm gonna believe it

[01:08:16] I've never otherwise I'm like I don't doubt I doubt I have never seen a poop I have as I said

[01:08:21] seen someone peeing what I did see once this was really peculiar was in our big thunder mountain

[01:08:29] we have these like metal cranks and if you turn the crank and then like an explosion will go off

[01:08:35] over in the distance so like it's like stuff to do while you're in okay so there's this crank but

[01:08:39] it's that like human like our waste level okay yeah something to do and crank one out yeah yeah

[01:08:46] well I saw a little kid who's you know whose head would be at waste height and he put the

[01:08:51] the lever in his mouth and he was turning it who was turning it like with his whole body like

[01:09:00] can you imagine how many hands had been on it and then he was our mouth gross

[01:09:07] I mean he probably is mutated by now and some like bizarre super freak I know and that's just

[01:09:12] well I guess I'll just never touch any of those yeah well the next kid will come along and clean it

[01:09:18] you know it's like I don't know that's I mean kids are busy I have totally touched one since then so

[01:09:28] I had one quick story about Bob Iger bringing people back into the fold basically

[01:09:36] is all do a real fast Kevin Meyer said that Bob Iger enlisted him to advise Disney because he

[01:09:42] needed quote part of his team back he says from candle media CEO and there's a former top

[01:09:51] Disney executive says he was welcome back then well he works he's the other co-CEO with Tom

[01:09:56] Staggs the dearly departed who was um director of parks he was he was Josh tomorrow before

[01:10:05] Josh tomorrow was Josh tomorrow and then he was see if oh I think he said he was welcome back

[01:10:10] into the Disney fold as a strategic advisor to Bob Iger he says quote I can't tell you what advice

[01:10:14] I'm giving to Bob and I suppose to the board but look he needed some part of his team back Meyer

[01:10:19] said speaking at the Yahoo Finance Invest conference in New York on Tuesday morning he came back

[01:10:24] to a company that had vastly changed the previous leadership under Bob Chapeck had been making some

[01:10:30] decisions that probably Bob Iger would not have taken if he was CEO but when you come back into a

[01:10:37] situation where there's a massive change from when you left and the team that you've had before

[01:10:42] and relied on before were gone it left them in a position where he really wanted to have some

[01:10:47] people that he trusted you know tell him what they thought and that's what I'm doing I'm not

[01:10:52] spending an enormous amount of time but I was at the company for a long time Iger Meyer says

[01:10:57] was one of the quote best CEOs in American history well of course you're going to say that you're

[01:11:03] new daddy's hiring you yeah and felt like he had an obligation to return to Disney Iger was

[01:11:08] disappointed to quote see the company not live up to the standards that he had set forth so stepping

[01:11:14] back into it was something I think he felt that he had to do he's not one of the best CEOs in history

[01:11:19] it's it's demonstrable he's brought the company the company stock has gone down he made the bed that

[01:11:24] Disney is lying in right now a part of the thing one of the most important characteristics of

[01:11:31] the successful and a good strong leader is talent development and succession planning he is

[01:11:36] manifestly incapable of doing that and so therefore as far as I'm concerned he's not he's no good

[01:11:43] I do think there's a lot of talk around what you're what you bring up there's a lot of people who

[01:11:48] speculate that Disney will acquire candle media which would put Kevin Meyer and Tom Stags

[01:11:57] at the helm of Disney when Bob Iger leaves and it would be kind of like back in the day when you

[01:12:03] had Frank Wells and Michael Eisner running the company at one is the president or one is the COO

[01:12:10] and one is the CEO they were they're saying that that is a very likely scenario that could happen

[01:12:16] and that this is the first they did mention something in the bottom of that where like there's a

[01:12:21] rumor about an acquisition or whatever but didn't Bob Iger said that he's not going to make any

[01:12:27] major purchases I don't understand it's almost like we can't trust this man oh yeah all right you're

[01:12:33] nothing that's it man I think let's get out of here that's what I think I liked it

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[01:13:32] tuning in everybody I have I think that's it I mean the else to say all right Jeremy what's going

[01:13:38] on specter radio oh nothing nothing really I mean I just wrapped up Halloween and

[01:13:44] Christmas will be coming around Thanksgiving all the Christmas music I love it man I just I saw

[01:13:49] the day after Halloween never refers I saw an ad on TV a commercial with a Christmas song and I

[01:13:55] vomited it's too early every year I wrestle with when to start playing the Christmas music on

[01:14:01] spectra but I like the day after Thanksgiving is the best time that's the perfect during the pandemic

[01:14:07] I went early but normally I do go a bit later last year I think I did it on Thanksgiving day

[01:14:15] so I like that too that's fine also because there is no Thanksgiving music mind as well just

[01:14:19] absorb it in the Christmas yeah and now we will all right everybody thanks a lot for tuning in we'll see you