Behind the Music of Pirates of the Caribbean

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[00:01:02] It's time for the show that brings the magic right to your speakers. Ears up! I gotta tell you guys, the vibes in the studio are immaculate right now because the one and only Jeremy from SpectroRadio.us is on the call with us. It's Spectro time this month. Folks, Jeremy, I see that you're broadcasting from downtown Disney World and on Main Street.

[00:01:32] They got the corner blocked off for you. Yes, they don't do it that often, but that's why we had to make sure. We're recording at an off hour. Yeah, that's true. Because they wanted to make sure that I had a good background. That's right. You're like Regis Philbin. There you go. We're out here in the sunshine. Hi, Dottie. It is like Regis used to do. He would be right on Main Street for the Thanksgiving parade or whatever. Right.

[00:02:00] The vibes are immaculate. I don't know if that's how he sounded or not. I haven't heard of Regis Philbin voice in forever. But he sounds like this in my mind. Ha-cha-cha-cha-cha. Anyway. He's dead, right? He passed. Yeah. He did? I think. Yeah, a few years ago. See you in Valhalla, brother. I miss you, my Regis man. What's up, Jeremy? How you been, dude? It's been another hot minute, but not as hot as the other minute.

[00:02:29] It's a little cooler than the last minute, so I like that. Yeah. I've been working on this one for a little while. Yeah. This one being... Because I have a bunch of Little Mermaid music queued up. Is that not what we're doing? That's right. Okay. Yep, that's it. You've got it all queued. Excellent. I'm ready. So it's the music of the Little Mermaid, folks. Once again. Right. We're going to do it again. Yeah. No, it's Pirates of the Caribbean, Caribbean, yeah? Yeah, and I can't believe that it took me this long to do this.

[00:02:59] Well, like, it's such a... Yeah. You know, this is... I was saying to Taryn before the show, this is my 45th Spectro Time segment. Wow. What have you had to say? Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, like, there was 44 episodes and Pirates didn't make it in. That's wild, actually. What's like... What didn't make it... Or what made it ahead of this, right? Like, what's the weirdest, lowest tier... The last one. ...thing that made it that this? It was like a weird one.

[00:03:29] That was the universe of energy. Yeah. I think that's sort of a... That wasn't weird. ...a Disney pillar. I did one called Nightfall Glow. Oh, that's weird, too. Oh, yeah. And I remember because I was... It was a day that I wasn't supposed to be on the show. And I was up in Boston for work. And Petros is like... Jace goes... He texted me. He's like, any chance you're free tonight? Can you put together a show?

[00:03:59] He throws something together. I'm like, well, I'm on a plane. It's five o'clock. I think I can throw together some... I was like, I have this one. It's going to be quick. And I wrote that. I think that's probably the weirdest one. But I knew I could write something about it and talk to three pieces of audio for it. Okay. First of all, I don't believe this happened. I wrote it on the... There's an hour shuttle between Boston and New York. I wrote it on the plane. Whipped it up. I mean, I can do... I can work magic when I need it. Yeah.

[00:04:29] And then there's months of pirates. Months of pirates. Yeah. So finally, this one. I was thinking about it. I don't know who I was talking to. It either was Alice or Taryn. I think they're both the same sometimes. And it's like, what songs are there? Maybe it's even Eric. It's probably Eric. Yeah, it wasn't me. On the secret show, maybe. I don't know. Someone was like, this is a yo-ho and that's it. I mean, what are you going to do? But you have a bunch, right? You have a lot of stuff to play for us. I did send you, I think, seven cuts. Yeah.

[00:05:00] But they are all kind of variations. Well, I did... Which is fine. It's a small world and there's really only that. There's really only that, yeah. Oh, speaking of small world, we haven't played it already, but what do you think about the new Sherman Brothers edition to small world? They wrote a special new verse for small world. You know, I don't think I've listened to it. I heard that they did that, but I haven't... I haven't listened to it either.

[00:05:30] ...paid any attention. Yeah. What do you think of the, just in theory, I guess, what about the idea of adding a new verse this late in the game? Well, the Sherman Brothers are dead. Who wrote this? Or was it something that they had written and they found? Eric, you know, I'm sure. No, yeah, it was a previous verse that they hadn't included, but one of the Sherman Brothers is still alive, right? I don't know. The silence answers your question.

[00:06:00] Nobody knows. Let's talk about every dead celebrity that... We should know this. Let's talk about every dead celebrity that we're not sure if is alive or not. Yeah, I know. That's actually so sad. The thing that was Regis Philbin actually wrote a verse to Small World and they found it. They found it. And Charles Grodin was the one who delivered it to the studio.

[00:06:21] Well, the little, in fact, one of the Sherman Brothers, it was probably Richard, used the Ouija board to contact Regis Philbin to get the location of... It's a whole thing. It's going to be the latest National Treasure movie. You know what I mean? Okay. Speaking of Ouija boards, we were at actually Toys R Us yesterday. Where could this be going? Picking out a board game. Yeah. And they had a bunch of Ouija boards for sale.

[00:06:51] And I... Who is buying a Ouija board? I would never. Still? To have it actively in stock at a current store. Yes. And, like, I'm sure that you disagree with me on why I wouldn't buy it, but who is buying a Ouija board? I would never, ever let that thing be in my house. Well, there's a lot of Satanists in the world. And, you know, more now than ever, we need to clear the shelf of Satan's influence. Because, like, everybody also knows a friend who has one.

[00:07:21] But, like, I feel like they're all from, like, the 70s and 80s. Like, who has, like, a recent one? Yeah. Like, I don't know. That's a weird game to purchase. I have a fake one. Well, it's not, like, an actual Ouija board. It's, like, a knockoff that has, like, what drink you're going to drink tonight. It's got, like, jam and whiskey on it. I like that. That's a clever idea. That's funny. Spirits from the grave.

[00:07:50] I have five ounces of bourbon and ten bottles of schnapps. What can I make with this? So great ones. It's moving. Okay. Okay. Half a teaspoon of grenadine. We don't have that. Sorry. And then the thing shoots off and hits the wall. Okay. Before we get started on the show, Jeremy, I have a story update for everybody. Now, if you've listened to this, if you caught up with us on The Secret Show already, which

[00:08:19] is only recorded a couple days ago, you already know the story. But, Jeremy, do you remember back in 2017? We interviewed that dude from the White Rabbits Social Club, Jake Fight. Oh, yes. And it was about, for those of you who don't remember, it was about the social club, the White Rabbits. And they were getting in a fight with, like, a bunch of other social clubs. But they were specifically targeting this one dude called Sarno from another social club.

[00:08:49] Yes, Sarno. Yeah. Yes. And we're like, we've always wondered what happened with that. You don't hear any news stories about it. Like, no one's really following up with it. They're all dead. They're all dead. Yeah, they're all dead. They're hanging out with the Regis Sherman brothers or whatever. So I get a phone call the other day from a lawyer. Like an actual telephone? Like an actual telephone. They're like, this is so-and-so. I'm an attorney up in Sacramento.

[00:09:15] I'm contacting you because you're the contact on record for years up. Can you please call me back? This is regarding the, you know, interview that you did with Jake Fite of the White Rabbits or whatever. I'm like, oh, God. What is this, dude? What is going on? So it turns out this is Sarno's, Sarno's lawyer contacted me. And she broke it down. She goes, look, the lawsuit's still going forward.

[00:09:42] Sarno is suing Jake Fite over like defamation and stuff like that. Because this dude went on a tirade just trying to break this guy's character. So now I have to be, I got subpoenaed the other day. Because subpoenaed? Subpoenaed. Because I have to authenticate the show that they're going to have. They're going to enter that show.

[00:10:09] My frigging podcast is going to be on record in a lawsuit. So I had to verify it. I'll authenticate like that's me talking. Yes, that's Jake Fite talking. Yes, this is what was said. No, this was not altered. And, you know, the lawyer's like, yeah, he's trying to tell us that like he's never been on a podcast. He's never published a podcast. She goes, but I have nine episodes of a podcast that he did specifically talking about Sarno

[00:10:37] and like reading his medical records and stuff like that. This is a whole thing. So I thought I would have to go down to Orange County Court, but I don't. I can do it remotely. But I think in two weeks or so, I might have to be before a judge over Zoom to be on the record. This is absolutely bonkers. And wait, so it gets better. I am just curious.

[00:11:06] Did I do a Spectro Time segment that episode? I don't know. I don't think so. Was I on that episode? That would have been too much. I think it was just him. That would have been too much, I think. It was like a two hour show. It was long. He talked a lot. That was a long episode. It was December 28th, 2017. This is in December 28th. Usually that's in the break. Yeah. Uh-huh. Well, this is before we were doing breaks, I think. You know, this is when we were just when we had listeners. Yeah.

[00:11:36] Well, I think this is, so there's more to this story? So the lawyer saying that like the reason I need to authenticate it is because he is trying, Fight is trying to say that it's the podcast audio, whatever we have has been altered with artificial intelligence. Oh my God. And she's like, I don't understand where this is coming from because we have like he live streamed your interview of him at the same time. And we have all of that.

[00:12:05] Like it's going to go nowhere, but it's just like a delay tactic where it's like, oh, it's all AI. I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I didn't say that. It's AI. Prove that it's not AI. Yeah. So I don't know, man. That's what's that. I remember it sounding like AI in 2017. Well, I had to, so I had to listen back to these 10 clips at the lawyer poll and pain, pain. The quality sucked, but the questions were good. I mean, we did a good job. Terrence and I did a good job.

[00:12:35] Taryn was there too. She probably did a good job too. And, you know, wow. It's just wild, like a blast from the past. Cause I think about that every now and then I go, because this is kind of effectively in my mind, what sort of shut down social clubs in the parks. Because they, they, they did disappear. They disappeared shortly after that. And I think it's because of what's going on because Sarno is not only suing Jake Fite, but he's suing Disney.

[00:13:03] Because, because Jake Fite has been saying that they're like unofficial Disney security at unofficial Disney events and Disney let this happen. There was like, you know, he, Disney let them something. I don't know. I haven't read the complaint, but. I didn't realize they were suing Disney too. That's not going to go anywhere. No, but I don't know. Yeah. So who knows how it goes? I'll, I'll find out in a couple of weeks, but yeah. What a weird time in our lives.

[00:13:32] Remember, but like you're bringing, cause I had kind of forgotten about the social clubs. Oh, sure. That they even exist. Now you're, you're bringing it up. Like, yeah, they thought that they were security. Like, remember they thought they had to take care of business in there. It's like, what are you, what the hell is going on? They were like monitoring other like guests. I remember like making sure people were like treating the park correctly. There were vigilantes of the park. And yeah. And I wonder if that's why Disney's included in that lawsuit is because they sort of let it happen.

[00:14:01] And the, the accusation, I guess, is that Disney knew this was happening and didn't do anything to stop it. Well, what could they do? You can't, you can't kick people out for wearing the same shirts. No, but to be aggressive towards guests and stuff like that, you absolutely can. Yeah. So I don't know. Like I said, I didn't read the whole thing. We'll see what's going on. It's, it's more than just picking up trash. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Well, because his, his whole thing was that Jake fights whole thing was that, uh, or the accusation is I should probably be careful.

[00:14:30] Um, is that he was extorting money for people from people to, uh, offer protection at their like events or in the parks or something nonsense like that. And so he like assaulted Sarno and wanted money from him. And it was like on Disney property. And apparently maybe Sarno reported it and Disney, again, I don't know. This is all conjecture. I have no idea.

[00:14:54] So legally I have, I don't know this to be true, you guys, but, um, what I said other was the update is, is accurate because, um, the lawyer called me and she said, I can talk about it. So that's good. It's all public. I'm also, I'm fascinated about the idea that there's, they've somehow found nine episodes of a podcast where he talks about Sarno's medical records. Like what boring podcast is that? Oh, he had his iron drawn on July 3rd. Yeah. Who wants to listen to that?

[00:15:24] I don't know. And I guess that's why they're going after him because, you know, they, they illegally accessed his records and he did nine podcasts trying to take down the Sarto dude. And it's like, and now you're saying you didn't do it. What are you doing, man? Where is it going? But I love that. It's like eight, nine years later, still going on. You know what I mean? We're finally going to court. Pandemic has come and gone. Yeah. I'm mad. So I don't know, man.

[00:15:53] That's social clubs, man. They're never going to leave our, our brain. Yeah. I hope I get to bring the main street fanny packers up. That'd be sick. Oh man. I found that fanny pack recently. Did you? I was like cleaning out a closet. I'm like, nah. I got to bring mine next time. Oh man. Yeah. I don't know, man. Let's make a resurgence. It was, it was like that the, the main street fanny packers was fun for a while. It was funny.

[00:16:20] And then like this kind of like spiraled and then suddenly social clubs became weird and uncomfortable. I was like, I don't want to be, I don't want to do that. It's like, they're gone now. You don't see them. No, they're gone. Which is good. Good riddance. By the way. Honestly. They were always weird and uncomfortable. Yeah. They were always weird and uncomfortable. Well, that's why ours was a fanny pack. That's right. Because it's like, it was just our reaction. All right. That's it, dude. I don't know. What do you think? That's it. Should we, should we mosey on with the show? Jeremy, are you ready for your seggy baby? I'm ready.

[00:16:51] Join us as we unravel the magic behind some of Disney's most beloved pieces of music. It's Spectro time. This magic night. A million stars will play beside us, cast us bellifies. Blimmering, shimmering, carousel inbound. Oh, my friend.

[00:17:15] You know, we have a lot of jingles on this show, but this one I never, ever will get sick of because we don't hear it. We've only heard it 45 times. Yep. Over almost 300 episodes. Which Thomas told me we're at like, this is $2.99. Is it really? Oh. I believe so. Oh, my goodness. Isn't that wild? I don't know about that. I think he said that the last episode, and just ears up.

[00:17:44] Like, this isn't including like. In depth or whatever. In depth or anything like that. But like 300, I think is our next episode. I hope we do something good for us. I hope we do, too. Are we going to be out on that balcony again in downtown Disney? No, but I am. I'm planning a thing. You can listen to the secret show. You can listen. You can find out what I'm planning for next year. Not for the 300th show. No. Not for next week. Yeah. Not for the 350. Yes. There we go.

[00:18:13] Probably get to 350 by then, right? Yeah. There we go. Maybe something like that. We'll see. I don't know. Maybe something better will come along. Yeah. Maybe I'll take up watercolors instead. Anyway, how's it going on Spectro Radio, Jeremy? What's happening? Are we still plugging away? Actually, Spectro's got – I've been adding a ton of music because Disney's really been releasing a lot of their music. So over in Paris, they opened up the worst name of a theme park ever, Disney Adventure World.

[00:18:42] But in the Disney Adventure World, they have quite a lot of music. And so I've got all that on the station. The new soundtrack to Soarin' Across America is on the station now, which is just a remake. It's just reorchestrated by Bruce Broughton. Okay. And I've got some more – I've been recently adding audio from Hong Kong Disneyland.

[00:19:07] And then I just put out today that – you know, Disney is sort of Americana, right? Yeah. Like Mean Street USA. And so there's a lot of music that is patriotic or just reflecting America. And so I've got a little – it's the semi-quincentennial of America this year. So July 1st through 4th, I've got some special programming, bringing back some old music like

[00:19:33] America Sings, great moments with Mr. Lincoln in the pre-show from the World's Fair. So I've got four days of music to celebrate the July 4th holiday. Nice. If you want to tune in. That sounds cool. What did you – the semi-sequentennial? That's what you call – 250 is the semi-quincentennial. That's what that is. Yeah. That's how you say that, I guess. I think I've got that right. Where did you hear that? Because I've literally – It almost makes it sound less exciting.

[00:20:05] It's only the semi. Don't worry about it. Semi-quincentennial. I don't know, man. Yeah. It sounds like a blood panel you have to get done. I got my – The quintcentennial would mean 500. So semi means you got halfway through. Right. Okay. I mean, look. To me, semi just means it's almost there. It could be anything. It could be 75% of the way there. I don't know. You never know. Semi is almost. Ambiguous, man. Yeah. All right.

[00:20:35] Well, that's cool, man. Thank you for teaching us a thing or two about words. I appreciate you very much. So what are we talking about today? I think Eric actually taught it. I didn't know what – He sort of broke it down and defined it, so I like that. Yeah. Well, he would, though. That's why he's here. Well, today we're going to talk about one of the most iconic attractions in Disney-storied history, and that would be, of course, Pirates of the Caribbean. So let's rewind to 1961 when Disneyland began the transformation

[00:21:02] of a sleepy little area along Disneyland's Rivers of America that back then was called Magnolia Park. I had no idea. Magnolia Park. The plans called for a new area to be known as New Orleans Square, based on a 19th-century vision of New Orleans' famous French Quarter, complete with lace-like raw iron verandas, authentic New Orleans cuisine, and the sounds of Dixieland jazz.

[00:21:29] Part of those early plans called for a walk-through museum, detailing the history of plundering pirates who'd used the trackless swamps of Louisiana as a safe haven. As plans continue to expand, as they typically do under Walt, the museum grew in concept to be more of an extravagant pirate's wax museum, though still a walk-through attraction. Those early plans for New Orleans Square were neglected for a bit, though,

[00:21:59] as they took a backseat to a new project that demanded the full attention of Walt and his Imagineers. Jason, can you tell me what could have been happening that would just completely distract them that they have to stop working on New Orleans Square? I guess it would be the World's Fair. Yes! Hey! It's almost like you have a 13-year-old podcast. Yeah. About Disneyland. Hey! Hey! I did it!

[00:22:28] And that you've been paying attention during it. Well, mostly I couldn't think of anything funny or appropriate right off the bat. I was trying to think of something. I was like, I can't say that. So I decided to be for real instead. Good job. You did great. I liked it. Thanks. Walt had committed his organization to developing a whopping four attractions for the World's Fair, and the timeline to get them done, unlike in theme parks, was non-negotiable, because when that thing was starting, it was starting.

[00:22:56] You better have your attractions ready. Yeah. The setback of the World's Fair would ultimately prove a boon to Disneyland and New Orleans Square in particular, not to mention Epcot, which would break ground the following decade, but that's a story for another night. Or afternoon. Ooh. Ooh. Had Walt not committed his company to the fair, the New Orleans Square project probably would have moved along as scheduled, and the Pirates Wax Museum would have opened on schedule. But the attractions Walt and his team were designing for the fair

[00:23:26] required the invention of new technologies that served as proof of concept for significant advancements in theme park entertainment that would change Pirates of the Caribbean and most future attractions forever. They broke ground in several fields of themed showmaking all at the same time. You know what's crazy about this story is before, you know, because we all kind of know, but Jeremy's going to tell us in great detail, but maybe not great. I don't know. Anyway, I'll cut that out. I'll make it sound better. It's fine.

[00:23:56] Because it didn't sound the way I wanted to say, but it's almost like, you know, when you tell kids now or even thinking about us growing up, our parents, you know, some of them didn't have electricity or whatever. Right. Like my dad grew up not having electricity. So for him, like that leap of going like, oh, now I can, I can, I can plug this thing into my tote. My bread gets brown. What is that? Or like, you know, shoes because it was, you know, they're poor, whatever. Right. Like talk to your grandparents.

[00:24:23] Oh, we didn't have the telephone or we had three channels on TV. And now I can watch Hallmark stories all day long, 24 seven. I feel like those leaps where you think about it, unless you lived it, you didn't really understand how impactful it is. And I feel like this story is that for us. We're like, oh, it just sounds kind of weird that they just have a flume now. That's great. But no, you like, it was a revolutionary step in, in for the park. Yeah. That was a cool analogy.

[00:24:53] It was, it was, you know, necessity they say is the mother of all invention and they needed it. And that's where they came in. At the time, Walt conceptualized the Pirates Wax Museum. The most advanced audio animatronics in Disneyland were the birds of the Tiki Room. Wow. High tech. So this was some, yes, in its infancy, but it was General Electric's carousel of progress and great moments with Mr. Lincoln.

[00:25:21] Both were in development for the world's fair that gave rise to the full scale human audio animatronics that we know today. These were invented for the world's fair. The fair also was anticipating crowd levels that would dwarf Disneyland's, meaning Walt needed to develop ride systems that would move significant numbers of guests while still giving each and every guest equal opportunity to experience the story.

[00:25:46] What do you think, like, what do you think in those planning meetings Walt was thinking? What am I trying to say? I'm having a hard time with you today, Jeremy. I haven't had to think like this in a while. We don't make him think. No. Yeah, what goes on when I'm not here? No. Definitely not. We just sit here and stare at each other. Yeah. When you, like, if you put yourself in those, in Walt's shoes, like, oh yeah, I'm going to do this thing.

[00:26:13] And like, well, look, we're going to have a 10 billion people an hour come through here. And he's like, oh crap. I actually have to really like reconfigure this. I wonder if he's regretting his choice. Or if it was that positive Walt thing where he's like, ah, we can do this. We just need to knuckle down and find the right people and we can do anything that we think Walt was, you know? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I think, I don't think he regretted it. I think he was like, guys, you have to come up with something. It wasn't really his job. He just gets to say, okay.

[00:26:43] And it's up to Bob Gurr and all the other guys. They've got to do it. Well, that's true. Yeah. He just set the goal. Yeah. Well, nevermind. That's all I know about that. I'll take all that out too. Okay. I thought it was pretty good. Sure you will. Okay. All right. I'll leave your stuff in. I'll just answer a question that was never asked. Yeah. The breakthroughs in staging, dialogue, and carefully timed musical scoring were demonstrated

[00:27:11] in the Magic Skyway and It's a Small World. Moreover, the boats of It's a Small World proved that a free-floating, water-based ride system could move large numbers of guests, but also in a controlled way. With the World's Fair shows running successfully, Walt knew that what at the time he was calling the pirate ride could no longer be confined to the lower level of the bayou building. Walt expanded his plans for an animatronic water flume pirate ride to go under the railroad

[00:27:41] tracks to a 100,000 square foot, three-level show building beyond the berm. Jeez. I'm talking about expansion. Yeah. That's a completely different thing. And I'm glad he did. And not to make the comparison. Again, this might be a better story than the other two I've tried to interject here. But when I was in the Bahamas several years ago, I went to a wax museum walkthrough pirate thing. Really? Really? I mean, and it was in Nassau or whatever.

[00:28:10] But so, again, I'm not comparing because the quality was absolutely atrocious. Like, everybody there might as well have just been Irish. Like, the skin on the wax figures, it was terrible. But yeah, it was so... I mean, it was neat to, like, look at the set that they had there or whatever. But, like, you kind of walk through. You're like, I've been... I walked here. I don't want to keep walking. This is atrocious. And it just... It was not as... I mean, it was neat as they could do.

[00:28:37] It was as neat as a wax museum walkthrough in the Bahamas could be. Well, yeah. But I like the addition of a boat ride. I don't think that pirates would be what it is today if it was a walkthrough, you know? Yeah. I mean, just to your point, like, if it were a wax walkthrough, like, why would you go twice? Yeah. Like, why would you ever need to do it again? And you're like, okay, yeah, I saw the candles. Like, I'm done now. Like, I don't know. The candles.

[00:29:07] So, like, maybe the appeal of pirates is less about the ride and more about the movement. Like, the ride. It's less about the dressing and more about the salad. Ah. Something? I don't know. Okay. The fork? We're getting there. We're getting there. We're ramping up. All right, man. Well, what you've mentioned, Taryn, about rewritability, or rewalkability that you wouldn't want to. That actually comes up a little bit later in my story. So, we'll come back to that.

[00:29:35] But that was – he realized that the way that they built this attraction, it would have people wanting to come back again and again. And there's a reason for that. Cool. By March of 1965, with the second year of the World's Fair about to kick off, a preliminary script was distributed to the show team for the pirate ride, with most of the famous scenes we recognize today in place. Something I know regular listeners – excuse me. Something I know regular listeners of this show will recognize is how Walt liked to take people

[00:30:04] from jobs and put them in an unexpected job. So, he might take a musician and make them write a story, or he might have a singer and make them narrate something. Well, for Pirates of the Caribbean, Walt saw out the talents of one of his animators. Francis Xavier Atencio, known to many simply as X, was asked – he was an animator – was asked to write the script for Pirates of the Caribbean. Like, did he just pull dates out of a hat?

[00:30:35] Like, you. Yeah, you. Write a script. Him and Lily were laying in bed, and she's like, who are you going to mess with tomorrow, Walter? And he's like, well, Lily, I got the – I don't know, that new guy, Frank. There's a guy. His name starts with an X? I don't know. We'll try him. He's got a dumb name. I actually want him gone, and so hopefully he doesn't work. Walt's whole business about being successful is just vindictiveness gone awry. Yeah.

[00:31:05] It just turns out everybody actually was talented in many ways. Hey, we need a new car. Get that Bob guy with that dumb-sounding last name to work on it. There we go. Oh, he invented six new cars? Wow. Wow, that worked? We made a monorail. Guess we can't get rid of him yet. Oh, man. Atencio later recalled, I had never done any scripting before, but if Walt thinks I can do it, I probably can. So I went to work researching pirates. What a crazy – I'm sorry.

[00:31:34] That's all I do with these things is just – what a crazy thing to think. Oh, if Walt says I could do it, I probably could. It's in me somewhere. I just got to – I don't know, man. I just think of like John Ritter and Real Men where he's just like, I can shoot people with my finger. Bang! You know? Because you said I could. Anyway, sorry. Well, also, he had to go do research. Like, it's 1961. How do you do research? Like, oh, you – What, did he go to the library? Like, he had to go – yeah.

[00:32:04] Well, what he did was he read the book Treasure Island and watched the Disney movie adaptation of Treasure Island to get a feel for pirate jargon. Okay. Oh, yeah. Classically, really both are just notoriously sticklers for historical accuracy. Yeah. Atencio first showed Walt his dialogue for the dunking of the magistrate scene that included such phrases as scuttle the old cockroach and Walt liked it.

[00:32:32] After completing the script, Atencio suggested to Walt that they should have a song that would run through the entire show and unify all the scenes. Hmm. He recalled that he sort of half sang, half recited a jingle he had been working on, and Walt said, hey, that's fine. Get George Bruns to write some music for it and we'll use it. All right. At this point, he's got to just be exhausted. He's like, I've put together four things for the World's Fair. Like, just – yeah, that's good. Just do it. Get Bruns.

[00:33:01] That's kind of what it sounds like, honestly. I think you're right about that. I'm tired. I got a year left. Yeah. And he's also greenlighting a bunch of movies. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, Herbie was – the love book was like the last live action he greenlit. They're working on whatever the cartoon was. I forget what it was. And then this whole thing and the World's Fair and this and that. Yeah. He's probably like – love it. Sounds great. You'll figure it out. I love this.

[00:33:29] I – you know, I'm out of smokes. He's wrangling P.L. Travers because Poppins is coming out in 64. Like, it's all happening. Yeah. Jeez. That is – that is such a great observation, too. It's like – because when we do these, we're focused on what's happening just immediately in the story. But we don't focus on the timeline branching out to encompass whatever Walt is doing aside from what we're talking about.

[00:33:55] So you do have all these other things happening at the same time that you don't really think about. Yeah. And like the premieres that he's going to – like it's a lot of – he's got a lot of – what do they say? A lot of buns in the oven? A lot of – A lot of buns in the oven. Fire? Buns in the oven is when you're pregnant. I got a bun in the oven, yeah. I got lots of buns in the oven. He's got a lot of irons. Irons in the fire is – yeah. Is that more? Irons in the fire, yeah. Fingers in the pie.

[00:34:25] Yeah. Hams in the – Pants. Spiraler. Yeah. So now Ex-Atencio has gone from animator to script writer to songwriter. Atencio's lyrics were added to the melody George Bruns wrote and combined they became Yo-Ho, A Pirate's Life For Me, number one. Yo-Ho, yo-Ho, a pirate's life for me. We pillage, we plunder, we rifle and loot.

[00:34:55] Drink up, me hearties, yo-Ho. We kidnap and ravage and don't give a hoot. Drink up, me hearties, yo-Ho. Yo-Ho, yo-Ho, a pirate's life for me. We extort, we dover, we filch and sack. Drink up, me hearties, yo-Ho. Marauding and bezzled and even – That's such a good song. It is. It's just so catchy. Jeremy, do me a favor, let's pause there. Let's take a break for a second, okay? We gotta take a break.

[00:35:21] And we'll come right back listening to more about the Pirates of the Caribbean ride. Hopefully less of my interjections on Spectro Radio and Ears Up or whatever we're doing. Hang on everybody, we'll be right back. Sehr gut, sehr gut, sehr gut. Sehr gut? Wieso Steuer ist sehr gut. Das sagen ganz viele. Cool, wer sagt das? Stiftung Warentest, Computerbild, Focus Money, Chip, Finanztip, such dir was aus. Mega, aber das ist doch bestimmt kompliziert.

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[00:36:47] Yeah, well. Everybody needs that quarter show bacon. I should have got my bacon. Trying to give myself a heart attack. So I want as much bacon as possible. Is there just like a tray of bacon sitting outside that room? Or like what's... Well, no, I have to go through a maze first to find it. And I finally saw it. You ring a bell and then a piece falls down. We work for our bacon in this house. That's why it took so long. Yeah, that's right, man. Yeah. Granted, it's a straight line maze, but it still takes a while. Well.

[00:37:17] All right, Jeremy. Anyway, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Continue on, please. Thank you for asking. Well, we were talking about how he wrote the lyrics to Yo-Ho. And in order to come up with the many descriptive lyrics of the pirates in the shanty, Atencio just used his thesaurus. He looked up synonyms for extort and found pilfer, pillage, maraud, embezzle, and hijack. You know what? I love that.

[00:37:48] I love that. Yes. As somebody who writes things and was an English major, that's what you do. And it's actually pretty easy, but I love that that's what he admits to doing. I think it's clear that you did it. If anyone got a look at your transcripts. First of all, they're not that bad. They're kind of terrible. They're not that bad. It was... Miss 2.98 average GPA. It was mostly B's. Mostly B's. Okay. Couple A's, couple C's.

[00:38:18] Shut up. I graduated. I have no certificate. That's all that matters. Okay. I think it's just clear that Bruns's music is what saved this because otherwise it just sounds like Alice did it. We're like learning how to use a thesaurus and it's like, okay, here's a word. Brightness. Now you figure out five words that are the same and then we put it to... You know what I mean? It just doesn't really... I don't know. It seems like an animator would write it, but the music I think really makes it work. Yeah. I think they're pretty great lyrics.

[00:38:47] They are. Okay, fine. But still. Well, he used all of those that he found and you can hear them in number two. We extort, we dover, we filch and sack. Drink up, me hearties, yo-ho. Marauding and embezzling, even hijack. Drink up, me hearties, yo-ho. We're rascals, scoundrels, villains and maves. Drink up, me hearties, yo-ho. We're devils and black sheep. Really bad eggs. Drink up, me hearties, yo-ho. We're really bad eggs. That's what they're saying.

[00:39:16] Not we have really bad aim? No, I always knew it was eggs. I just didn't understand why they said that and it just clicked that they are really bad eggs. Yeah. They're bad guys. Like bad guys. Yeah. Got it. It's all just like we're this, we're that, we're this, we're that. Like is narcissist in there? Like it's all about you. Yeah. I mean, who doesn't make up a song about themselves and what they do all the time? You know what I mean? These are the things that we do all the time.

[00:39:46] Because we're great. I don't know. True. Atencio turned the completed script over to Walt in October of 1965 and dialogue recording began just five days after Walt received the script. So they weren't wasting any time. Wow. The majority of voices heard in the show are down to just two performers, J. Pat O'Malley and Paul Freese. O'Malley will be familiar to Disney fans as he is the voice behind Tweedledee and Tweedledum

[00:40:15] in Alice in Wonderland. Okay. And Paul Freese had just completed his recording of the audio narration to Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln for the World's Fair. And of course, we all know Paul Freese for his work as the ghost host in the Ghostmobile show. Haunted Mansion. So that's not Thurl?

[00:40:39] Thurl Ravenscroft is in there also, but the ghost host specifically is Paul Freese. Thurl Ravenscroft is one of the singing busts. I did check this because I was like, I thought I had the same reaction as you and I'm like, wait, is he really? I've always thought that was Thurl Ravenscroft singing. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, you thought Thurl was in Pirates? Yeah. What is this? Amateur?

[00:41:08] With Will. He might be in maybe his male. Yeah. Freese and O'Malley recorded dozens of various dialects and styles for the many pirates throughout the attraction, including their drunken laughter, haunting echoes, swarthy sarcasm, and even singing dogs, pigs, and parrots. Number three. Swarthy sarcasm. That should be the name of my next show. Ha ha ha ha ha. Dead men tell no tales.

[00:41:38] Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Why is that for me? Kindle a giant flame of the year. Ha ha ha. Bad ship me, lovey. You're beyond the wrong text. Stay a bit, ducks. We likes a bit of fun we do. Just one more little kiss. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. It sore I be to oist me colors on the likes of that shy little wench. Ha ha ha.

[00:42:07] Now where be that little old fish dinner I've been a craving? Hope that pilfering pussycat ain't beating me to it.

[00:42:18] You know, whenever I think about how people do voiceover, characters like that, I get,

[00:42:46] I'm so impressed because in order to fight the embarrassment of doing some of that, where it's making the, I forget what line it was now, but it's like, I don't know, man. I don't know if I could do that. But they're good. Yeah, man. Yeah. That's crazy. And to hear it, like, without all the other sounds in the ride, where like when you're in it and you've got people talking to you next to you and whatever, like, I don't know, there's all these other sounds.

[00:43:14] Like, I guess I didn't realize they were saying so much stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's almost two background. Yeah. Like I, the only thing I feel like I ever hear in that ride is the red lady sometimes. Uh-huh. And then there's one other part, and I can't think of it now. Yeah. Oh, when he's being dunked into the well. Like that part I can hear, but that part sounded like it was like later on.

[00:43:44] And like, I don't ever hear any of that stuff. I think that I've heard those animals a number of times on the ride. And I think on some level, I must have known that it was a human making that. But like. Yes. Yeah. But contextually. I guess. Yeah. Like, if you see the pig in front of you. Yeah. And you hear the squeals, you're not going to separate it. Like, I know that's not real. Right. You know, but. That's a good point. Yeah. It doesn't sound like a human.

[00:44:12] They're good dog barks. They're good whines. You know? They're good pig squeals. Can you imagine taking your family on the ride and going, that's me. That one. That one right there. That's me. You know it. And that one. And that one. So you're telling me there's only two people doing all these voices and singing. There were like a couple others who did smaller parts, but these guys performed the majority of the voices. Good Lord, dude. That's crazy. They're taking all our jobs, dude. My goodness. You know?

[00:44:42] Sorry. And actually, my next paragraph. Well, actually. So. Hold on. While. You know what? I do this. I do this all the time. You really? I'm sorry. No, it's okay. No, you asked a question that I'm like, I answer in two paragraphs. But. Okay. So let me just read. Yeah. Tell me to shut up and. Yeah. Could you do me a favor? Shut up. Yeah. No. No. Freeze has one of the most memorable lines in the attraction.

[00:45:10] The now maligned auctioneer selling winsome wenches, telling the redhead to strike her colors. But it is Existencio himself who voices the iconic line we hear in the beginning of the traction, dead men tell no tales. While O'Malley and Freeze are heard throughout, they're not the only voices featured, Jason. Oh. Wow. That's great. Here's Jenny Tyler in her recording session for the auction scene. Number four.

[00:45:38] You got some secret between the two or some girl talk or something. More a giggle, not so much a laugh. God, that's so awkward. It's so awkward. But you know what?

[00:46:07] You can hear the progression. And like, I can, I'm going like, okay, that's the one. That's the one. Take that take or whatever. But I don't, I like, I like it when you, when you present this stuff, cause it is good, Jeremy, to see how hard it is to do these things. You know, you don't just get in and do the giggle. It's like, you gotta, you working for it and you give a bunch of different takes and then they choose whichever one is, is great for you. But like isolated like that in, in contrast to the other thing it did, it doesn't sound

[00:46:36] as, I don't know, cool, but clipped, put it underneath music and all the other stuff going on. It just, it's that little flavor, man. It's adding that little flavor. Well, this goes back, this goes back to something that Taryn mentioned earlier about the rewritability and there was concern. I don't know. I think I wrote this, but I'm going to just bring it up. There's concern, throw the script away.

[00:47:02] There's concern that on the part of the people who designed it, when they took Walt through, they were like, oh, you know, this is too much of a cacophony. Like you, you, you hearing conversations over each other and Walt was like, no, that's how it would be. You wouldn't hear, like, it's not like, you're just going through, you're hearing a destruction of a town. Like you would hear things, people talking over each other. And he's like, and by the way, every time people hear, come on, they're going to hear

[00:47:30] something slightly different based on where they sit, based on what time the book gets through. He's like, so it's, that is what's going to give it its rewritability. The fact that you have people and animals and everything kind of all going over each other. And there is sort of a blending and a dissonance to it. That's, and he was like, it sounds like it's a mistake. It's actually what's going to bring people back over and over and over. Well, and I think that, that plays to his strength of doing movies before this, right. And, and doing, because if you think about any sort of main street setting in any movie

[00:48:00] ever, there's a lot going on. You hear cars honking and you hear people saying hi or whatever. You hear a bunch of conversations in the background and that's exactly what we're doing. But instead of everybody going to work, they're pillaging and, you know, stealing bread and getting hit over the head or whatever. So that does make a lot of sense. Yeah. Pillaging and looting and even hijacking. There's other words for it too. I couldn't think of anything though.

[00:48:27] Now, meanwhile, while this is going on, George Bruns is toiling away, composing the many instrumental themes that underscore the attraction using variations of the Yoho theme and incorporating pirate instruments such as the mandolin and the accordion. He composed a complete Pirates of the Caribbean overture, just like any major musical production would have, a sweeping orchestral to set the mood as guests arrive and depart the attraction. Number five.

[00:49:32] Now we're getting a little exotica here. I'll tell you that my favorite part of the Yoho, my favorite part of the ride, I'm realizing right now is the very first part. It's like, it's this. It's that.

[00:50:01] It's that whole like first, maybe 15 seconds of that song. And I don't know why it's, it's maybe that was the intent is to set the mood. Like you were saying, it's what you hear when you walk in and it's that first thrumming, I suppose. I don't know. Orchestral. I like it. That's, I think that's my favorite part about the entire music of everything. If I had to pick one thing, it would be that. Wow.

[00:50:27] Well, you know from that music that these are bad guys. Yeah. Boom, boom, boom. Oh yeah. It's sort of lurky and like, so it does a good job of sort of announcing them, which pirates are sort of flamboyant, I guess. I'm thinking of Johnny Depp now, but like, you know, they sort of make an entrance. Well, they have a flag. That they're bad. Yeah. They let everybody know. I don't know. They don't, yeah. They have frills. They're not hiding it. They have frills. Right. You know, yeah. Velvet. They're draped in velvet. That's true.

[00:50:57] Fully ensconced in velvet. Yeah. The first mod. Pirates. Sorry. Pirates. First mod. Pirates of the Caribbean opened on April 19th, 1967 with its cast of 119 animatronics. And the press reviews were rapturous. Quote, bound to be a star in the park's crown and quote, most thrilling of all audio animatronic experiences. The show was an instant hit.

[00:51:25] But when Walt Disney World opened its doors to the public just four years later in 1971, audiences were disappointed to find that the famous Pirates attraction that they had heard about was noticeably missing in a park that did not have a New Orleans square. Disney executives believed that a Caribbean-themed attraction wouldn't be popular in Florida, a locale so close to the actual Caribbean. Well, you know.

[00:51:51] Guest feedback led the company to quickly reverse that decision, and Pirates of the Caribbean arrived in Florida in 1973 in the park's Adventureland section. So, okay. Here's a question that I have. Now, we were talking on one of the other shows that Roy sort of wanted Walt Disney World, like the Magic Kingdom or whatever, to be kind of what Walt wanted, which is why Fantasyland

[00:52:21] was sort of a similar thing. Do you know the reason why they didn't have a New Orleans square? Why they didn't want to bring pirates over? It was such a huge hit. Why not bring it over? I think they thought that it's too close to home, so it wouldn't bring you somewhere else. You're showing them the Caribbean, and they're already in the Caribbean.

[00:52:47] Sort of like DCA being a California landmark, and you're like, yeah, we know. But I don't know. I guess I don't think New Orleans square is the Caribbean. And I know the pirates were hanging out in there or whatever, but I don't know. I feel like it just feels weird when we're talking. Eric, do I have that right? Where Roy was like, no, this is my love letter to my brother.

[00:53:13] I mean, that's the byline that they've always used is like, oh, well, I mean, New Orleans isn't that far away, and why would we make another one of those? Yeah, I guess it just doesn't make any sense to me. I don't get it. And maybe it's one of those things where there is no reason, because I feel like if you're trying to make a love letter to your brother who passed away, you're going to put in arguably

[00:53:38] one of his most famous rides that he worked on to put in there, it doesn't matter if it's close or whatever. It's still a lot of fun, and people are going to want to see it. It just feels like a ball dropped. Well, they wanted to make a Western version. They wanted to make a bigger frontier land. Oh.

[00:53:59] And they had this idea for a giant, basically the same sort of ride, but Western. Was it called Mesa something? Mesa table? I can't. There was some name for it. I've read about it. Yeah, I'm blanking on it right now, too. I don't know why. Mesa thinks that we should have a...

[00:54:25] Yeah, you know, in thinking about it also, also, also, having pirates in New Orleans Square, I mean, I know pirates were all over New Orleans, but I didn't think... I don't think of pirates being set in the Caribbean. You don't? Uh-uh. That ride, I don't see it being set in the Caribbean. Maybe because you have to go through the bayou to get there. Like, if you asked me where it'd be, I couldn't tell you. I know it's Puerto Dorado, which is the... You mean you don't think about them being set in New Orleans? I mean, I guess...

[00:54:56] I just think of it as like a separate... The Caribbean sounds more appropriate. Yeah, but they're speaking Spanish, you know? Jeremy's looking at me like I'm stupid, and I feel stupid. But these are the things... I see what you're saying. You see what I'm saying? Thank you. Well, you know... Well, pirates spoke all... I mean, there were English pirates. There were French pirates, surely. I mean, there were pirates on the island of Hispaniola who did speak Spanish. I mean, those three major empires during the colonial period all had pirates. Here's the thing. I don't know anything.

[00:55:26] Okay? So, I guess I'm piecing together history based on a Disney ride, which already is problematic to begin with. But this is why you shouldn't be trying to do this, trying to make sense out of something. Like, it's we watch Marvel movies or whatever, because that could never happen. Or why does this happen? Just because it just exists. But I feel like, if I'm honest, I don't consider that ride to be set in the Caribbean.

[00:55:56] Or New Orleans, for that matter. I don't know why. It's just... It's its own thing. It seems more like a Spanish thing than anything. I don't... Maybe it's the brickwork, or maybe it's the way that... I don't know. And honestly, in Disney World, it feels even more Spanish. Yeah. Some kind of Spanish. Yeah. There is a lot more of that feel over there. Yeah. And Brian in the chat is helping out. It's Western River...

[00:56:28] Western River Expedition. It was going to be this giant, like, building that was going to have all sorts of stuff in it. That sounds cool. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the main point was going to be to have a... This was phase two of Walt Disney World, where they were going to put in a pirate-style boat ride. Okay.

[00:56:56] The other piece is that where your New Orleans Square kind of kicks off is our Liberty Square. Yeah. And that was a love letter to Walt, because that was a concept that was meant to open in Disneyland behind... Remember, that was supposed to be... I don't remember what it was going to be called in Disneyland. Edison Square. Yeah. Edison, yeah. Sort of behind Main Street. I know something. Nice job. Thanks, man. And all of the buildings have...

[00:57:26] Like, they have an address that's based on, like, the year. So it progresses through years as you walk through Liberty Square and Frontierland. Yeah. Okay. Well, that makes sense. Sort of. Kind of. Go ahead, Jeremy. Sorry. Get us back on track, please. I also just want to say that Disney World opened at the end, you know, the back half of 1971. It was October. Yeah.

[00:57:56] And guest feedback came in, and they had a Pirates by 1973. So... Okay. What? 18 months? Mm-hmm. They were able to build an entire attraction. I just want to point that out. Yeah. We wait six years now for a stupid roller coaster. And it's not even hidden. It's not even themed. And they just were like, oh, well, we'll build Pirates of the Caribbean right now. You'll have it in 18 months.

[00:58:26] Just hold on, people. I think that's just... That's crazy. I have to call that out. Yeah. Absolutely. But Pirates of the Caribbean didn't stop there. Pirates of the Caribbean attractions later came to Tokyo Disneyland, Paris, and Shanghai Disney Parks over the coming decades. Let's listen to some audio from some pirates abroad. Nice. Can you say that?

[00:59:21] He's going to talk. I don't like the Chinese one too much. Because it had the movie song? No, no, no. It was just...

[00:59:50] It's hard for me without... Thanks for putting me on the spot, Terry. Now I'm going to have to dance around not being... Whatever. It's... I don't know, man. I think Japanese flows really well. And it especially works for the kind of emphasis. But Chinese to me is very sharp. And when you're like being very emphatic with a sharp language, it's hard for me to listen to. That was... I will say like when I went to... One of the things I remember...

[01:00:20] And again, I've said this before. I was 18 when I went to Disneyland in Japan. And I don't remember a whole lot of it. But I remember the rides and just hearing familiarity, but in a different language was like the coolest part. And so like I love hearing... They're sort of the interpretation of pirates, but like in different languages. I don't know. It's just very cool to me. Hell yeah. I agree.

[01:00:49] To hear French like... Yes. Those pirates speaking in French, I think it's... For some reason, that's super cool to me. I don't know why. Even when like when I'm in Hong Kong Disneyland and the announcements come on before like the show, I'm like that's so cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It's neat because it's like a different version of something that you're very familiar with.

[01:01:13] Well, and you were right to call out, Taryn, that the Parisian and the Japanese attractions more closely reflect the original from America. The Parisian one is sort of out of order. I haven't been on it in a few years, but it almost starts at the end, if I remember correctly. Like you go right into the burning scene. Oh, interesting. I kind of remember it that way, but I could be wrong. Someone will correct me, but I definitely know that it's not in the same order that the two in America are.

[01:01:42] I haven't been to Tokyo, but then Shanghai is a big departure and it works a lot as you can hear from the music because you hear the Hans Zimmer soundtrack there. It's more close to the movies. Okay. Hear me out. Here's a new pitch. Okay. It's like Small World and pirates had a baby. Okay. So as you move through the boat ride, it's different scenes of different cultures pillaging and raiding.

[01:02:10] So you have the Vikings and you have the Spanish and like the Aztecs and you have the Romans and then, you know, the Greeks fighting the Turks. You have all these things, right? Right. But with the pirates song in different languages. That would definitely be more of a history lesson. Yeah. Okay. Here, keep me, keep here. Keep this in mind. Spaceship Earth overlay.

[01:02:36] The history of man as it pillages and burns its way through history. Oh, jeez. Yes. There you go. Okay. There is a bit of pillaging and burning in there, but not as much, I think, as you're looking for. Yeah, you got the smell. Not as much as I'm looking for. Absolutely. Okay, go ahead. Well, one thing that I always love is when you hear Disney music beyond the parks and like people who cover it.

[01:03:00] And by the way, pirates, I think, and also owing to the movies, there's so much audio out there and covers and, you know, orchestras playing the soundtrack to the movies and all of that. But there's one that I found of Yo-Ho that I really, really love. And that's number seven.

[01:03:51] From. What? Where does that fit in life? But I love it. The 70s. Disney did an album a few years ago that was all cover songs. And I think it's called Disney's Music from the Parks. And that is the Pointer Sisters. Wow. That's crazy. By the way, the Pointer Sisters, no strangers to Disney.

[01:04:16] They are a frequently recurring act at the Epcot Food and Wine Festivals. Still? Are they all still alive? Good for them. Well, these acts go on and they just recap, you know, I mean. Oh. They just bring new. It's like Minuto. Yeah, exactly. But instead of leaving when you turn 21, you leave when you die. You work until you fall. Yes. You're regenerated like Doctor Who. Yeah.

[01:04:43] So that is the music of Pirates of the Caribbean. That's awesome. Very good, Jer. Excellent work, dude. Excellent work. And what a way to end on the Pointer Sisters. Pointer Sisters. I love the Pointer Sisters singing yellow. I'm not going to lie. I'm a little disappointed that it was just made for like a soundtrack and that it wasn't part of like a parade or something because like it's very random.

[01:05:07] Like that is a really strange interpretation of the song. It's very Disney Channel 92. It is. Yeah. You know, it's funny over on the Buena Vista Boys podcast. We talk a lot, you know, watching live action Disney movies. But a name that comes up over and over again is George Bruns. He did a lot. Yeah, he did a lot of live action. He did Ugly Dash and he did Follow Me Boys, which we covered recently.

[01:05:37] He did The Love Bug, which we just released the other day. He did Herbie Wright's again, which we'll do next season. Like he's done. He's done a lot of the things. Davy Crockett. He did. We covered, I think, our first season. So it's funny to see these people that I've heard about on Spectro for so long. And then now I'm watching movies that they've composed too. And I guess it goes back to the beginning of like Walt was so busy. All these people were just so busy. They were just doing so much.

[01:06:04] Like the talent pool that Walt had to draw from was, it seemed crazy. Yeah. You know, and maybe that's why there weren't so many people working on these projects. It was like that was, maybe that's why it's like one or two reoccurring names throughout. Because like I found my guy. Like nobody else is doing this, but this guy. I don't know. Well, I do think he, Walt, experienced a limited talent pool.

[01:06:31] Because didn't he start his own school, like art school? Because he didn't think that he could, like wasn't he trying to train animators and musicians because he couldn't find them? So didn't he start a school? Yeah, because Chouinard is the school that was teaching a lot of the artists. And that's part of why the strike happened is because it alienated the people who weren't trained.

[01:07:00] He's training all the young folks and all the old guard were like, wait, what about us? Right. Yeah. And I think also, you know, as part of the strike, but, you know, the growth of the studio, I think they used to have classes all the time when the studio was kind of small, like one, 200 people.

[01:07:23] But as it grew into the low thousand, they needed to have better classes to teach everybody more at the same time. And so it sounds like maybe that's some of it, you know, as well. I mean, Pixar still does that. They still, and I know Disney does that too, obviously. They still just like do joint classes where they teach everybody and, you know, share common knowledge and stuff like that. But yeah, I don't know, man. I think it's pretty fascinating, Jeremy. Good job as always, young man. Thank you. Of course.

[01:07:52] I don't have any news to talk about, so I think that's kind of it. I think we're done with the old show Reno, dude. That was excellent. Yeah. Great. Thanks, everybody, for tuning into the show. I do appreciate it. Jeremy, thank you very much. You can hear more about Jeremy's love of Disney music over at SpectroRadio.us, which is 24-7 Disney music curated by the man himself, Jeremy. It's SpectralRadio.

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[01:09:49] That's good to know, man. You're being very hard on yourself in this episode. Yeah. I don't know, man. I needed a nap. I didn't get to take it. Hmm. Hmm.